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kbmb
Feb 20, 2008, 05:01 PM
I originally posted this in the Digital Video section, but figured this is probably the better forum for it.

Can anyone tell me why ripping a full disc with MacTheRipper is so slow?

For example, tonight I went to rip The Lion King.....MTR is showing it's going to take close to 55 minutes to rip the disc.

I have a Mac Pro 2.66 Intel with 11GB of RAM.

The drive in the machine is:
Model: SONY DVD RW DW-D150A
Revision: 1.MD

I thought MTR should only take 20 minutes or so since there is no encoding?

Any thoughts?

-Kevin



FreeState
Feb 20, 2008, 05:06 PM
Can anyone tell me why ripping a full disc with MacTheRipper is so slow?

For example, tonight I went to rip The Lion King.....

I thought MTR should only take 20 minutes or so since there is no encoding?

Any thoughts?

-Kevin

Mac The Ripper removes the region and copyright protection etc from the disc - your trying a Disney film which are know to take longer because of the copy protection used by Disney on it.

GSMiller
Feb 20, 2008, 05:09 PM
Ah, that's just how it goes. That seems about right though as I don't think processor speed really affects MTR.

wmealer
Feb 20, 2008, 05:11 PM
I've found that FairMount works just as well, if not better, than MTR. Allows you to mount protected DVDs and copy their contents much more seamlessly than MTR.

iHerzeleid
Feb 20, 2008, 05:35 PM
What version of MTR are you using?

kbmb
Feb 20, 2008, 05:39 PM
Mac The Ripper removes the region and copyright protection etc from the disc - your trying a Disney film which are know to take longer because of the copy protection used by Disney on it.

Right, so I figured it's limited to the Superdrive in the machine.

I started again with 'The Departed'...and that's the same.

Right now I'm just doing the Disc option....is that the right one? I'm doing this more for testing, but eventually it will go both on a Tivo (MPEG2), and Apple TV. I know I can just use Handbrake or VH for AppleTV, but the Tivo wants MPEG2, so I figured I'd use MTR first.

I kept reading where people were ripping discs with MTR in 15-20 minutes, so I thought 60 minutes was a lot.

-Kevin

kbmb
Feb 20, 2008, 05:39 PM
What version of MTR are you using?

Version 2.6.6

-Kevin

FreeState
Feb 20, 2008, 05:46 PM
I kept reading where people were ripping discs with MTR in 15-20 minutes, so I thought 60 minutes was a lot.

-Kevin

Most of mine are in that time frame - its more dependent on your DVD drive's speed than your Mac - but it also depends on the disc too - I generally rip older/non-hollywood produced movies and I get them in 15-20 min. I just did The Producers as a test and got it done in 17 min...

Eidorian
Feb 20, 2008, 05:49 PM
Version 2.6.6

-KevinThat's a rather old version of MacTheRipper. There are much newer ones out there. Do you know how much data you're copying as well?

kbmb
Feb 20, 2008, 06:02 PM
So, just finished a Full Disc extraction of The Departed.

MTR ripped it to a non startup harddrive in 30 minutes 44 secs, nothing else being run on the machine.

It copied 7.76 Gb of data.

Does this look correct?

-Kevin

kbmb
Feb 20, 2008, 06:34 PM
So, just finished a Full Disc extraction of The Departed.

MTR ripped it to a non startup harddrive in 30 minutes 44 secs, nothing else being run on the machine.

It copied 7.76 Gb of data.

Does this look correct?

-Kevin

So my PC running XP with DVD Decrypter is taking about 41 minutes for the same movie, same data amount.

-Kevin

bentup
Feb 21, 2008, 01:42 AM
I would say thats about the right amount of time. I average 20-40 mins on my Mac Book Pro depending on the movie.

Full disc is normally the best option, especially if you want to preserve the chapter markers in handbrake.

As for getting the new version of MTR. I would say forget about it. I am all for developers getting paid for their work, but I completely disagree with the distribution method they are using. A quick google search will easily give you a more up to date version.

mindcrash
Feb 21, 2008, 09:12 AM
I would say thats about the right amount of time. I average 20-40 mins on my Mac Book Pro depending on the movie.

Full disc is normally the best option, especially if you want to preserve the chapter markers in handbrake.

As for getting the new version of MTR. I would say forget about it. I am all for developers getting paid for their work, but I completely disagree with the distribution method they are using. A quick google search will easily give you a more up to date version.

I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape about paying for MTR. Personally, I donated $20 and am glad for it because it's ripped anything I've put in front of it (version 3 that is). He's responsive to problems with the program and frequently puts out updated versions. Plus it's simple.

So there you go.

BornAgainMac
Feb 21, 2008, 09:29 AM
I kept reading where people were ripping discs with MTR in 15-20 minutes, so I thought 60 minutes was a lot.

-Kevin

If the DVDs are 4 GB in size then yes it is possible.

cohibadad
Feb 21, 2008, 09:56 AM
I've found that FairMount works just as well, if not better, than MTR. Allows you to mount protected DVDs and copy their contents much more seamlessly than MTR.

Fairmount freezes on all the newer zero cell protected DVDs. Unless they've updated it in the past month. I haven't tested it recently.

Markleshark
Feb 21, 2008, 10:23 AM
Yeah, 20-40 minutes is about the right time frame. Takes me about 30 mins with the slower super drive in the Mini.

wmealer
Feb 21, 2008, 10:32 AM
Fairmount freezes on all the newer zero cell protected DVDs. Unless they've updated it in the past month. I haven't tested it recently.

That could very well be true. None of the stuff I've ripped recently were brand-spanking-new releases. Worked great even on my daughter's Disney/Pixar DVDs though. Probably the most recent one was "Cars." Combined with DVD2oneX2, I was able to identify some zero-cells and get good rips out of everything I tried.

yeroen
Feb 21, 2008, 10:33 AM
The drive in the machine is:
Model: SONY DVD RW DW-D150A
Revision: 1.MD

-Kevin

That's your problem. Apple shipped drives are riplock enabled, which makes ripping DVD's slow as molasses. Pick up a Pioneer DVR-115D from OWC and install it in the second drive bay.

I use the (predecessor to the 115D) Pioneer DVR-112D for ripping and the average rip time on my Mac Pro (same as yours) is about 10 minutes, vs 30 minutes or more on the Sony. It's the drive of choice on the MTR forums.

Also, MTR 2.66 is way out of date and won't work for a lot of newer titles, particularly if they're ARccOS protected (like Disney discs are). If you want to get any use out of MTR, you need to upgrade the latest version (at least 3.14d or later).