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KhuntienNang
Feb 23, 2008, 02:43 AM
okay, i am using tmobile on my recently unlocked iphone. and i have always had the tmobile web $5.99 plan since before iphone. however, how do I activate it so my iphone can also run on the edge?

i tried to do it myself based on the tutorial on http://jbwebdev.com/blog/want-edge-on-your-t-mobile-iphone/
so, i used the ibrickr, and it messed up my iphone. it went crazy and i couldnt even do anything on it. i worked on it until 3.30 am in the morning, and to cut the story short, i had to restore it again from beginning. thank goodness my iphone is back alive.

and again, i have unlocked it with ziphone. and im still trying to use the tmobile edge. is there any other simpler way to do it without breaking my iphone again?



carfac
Feb 23, 2008, 01:50 PM
and again, i have unlocked it with ziphone. and im still trying to use the tmobile edge. is there any other simpler way to do it without breaking my iphone again?

Just change edge to WAP.VOICESTREAM.COM and you are good to go on v 1.1.3.

I JUST bought an OOTB 1.1.3, did ZiPhone and added that to edge, and no problems.

On my old 1.0.2=>1.1.1 phone, I did have to do some further editing, and it was tricky.... but somewhere in there, it got fixed so it works OOTB.

gkarris
Feb 23, 2008, 03:23 PM
I tried using the $5.99 plan here in Chicago and I never got it working (with the setting used above).

T-Mobile must have set it so that you have to use the $20/month plan for it to work. More money for them...

I switched online to the $20/month plan online and the next morning, without doing any changes to my Edge settings, my Edge symbol turned on and it started working. :eek:

Well, at least I can use my laptop Wifi as well at all Starbucks and Borders Books...

KhuntienNang
Feb 23, 2008, 09:40 PM
carfac: I tried and changed the setting, but is still won't work. Is there any application in the installer that could make it work? Or is there anything else that I am missing?

Gkarris : I know, I called the tmobile before and the reps keep trying to talk me into signing up the $20 plan. But since some people have tried the 5.99 and works, I thought might as well try to find out how to do it since I already have the plan.

thatdude90210
Feb 23, 2008, 10:23 PM
BigBoss's Repository Beta/Experimental source (install from community source) has a T-mobile 1.1.3 Tzone hack. If you're on 1.1.3 firmware, have you tried that?

elenex50
Feb 23, 2008, 11:41 PM
Im in the same boat as you. I unlocked my otb 16giphone i got today with ziphone 2.4 and it unlocks and all that good stuff but i cant get the edge to work either. I see the E icon on my phone but i dont get the service. i need help too. Is there supposed to be bars next to the E.

in4maous
Feb 24, 2008, 11:20 AM
I tried using the $5.99 plan here in Chicago and I never got it working (with the setting used above).

T-Mobile must have set it so that you have to use the $20/month plan for it to work. More money for them...

I switched online to the $20/month plan online and the next morning, without doing any changes to my Edge settings, my Edge symbol turned on and it started working. :eek:

Well, at least I can use my laptop Wifi as well at all Starbucks and Borders Books...

How do you setup the laptop Wifi at Starbucks and Borders with the unlimited plan?

carfac
Feb 24, 2008, 11:33 AM
Has anyone tried that BigBoss T-Zones hack? (I did NOT use that, buit I see it on Installer.... perhaps you should give that a whirl???)

All I can tell you is I am running T-Zones NO PROBLEM, and all I did was the ZiPhone on a OOTB 16 Gigger 1.1.3.

I will be doing another one today for my wife, I will report back on that one.

KhuntienNang
Feb 25, 2008, 12:32 AM
yeah. i just did! i used that big boss tzone hack. my edge works now. though a little slow. but at least it works. how about others?

Paul B
Feb 25, 2008, 12:34 AM
yeah. i just did! i used that big boss tzone hack. my edge works now. though a little slow. but at least it works. how about others?

Which voice plan do you have?

carfac
Feb 25, 2008, 11:30 AM
OK, reporting back!

Got a new 16 gigger yesterday (boxed, Apple Store, 1.1.3) Here is EXACTLY what I did.

ZiPhone 2.4 Activate Unlock Jailbreak
Installed BSD Subsystem
Installed OpenSSH
In "Tweaks 1.1.3", Installed "TMobile Carrier Logo" version 1.01. Not sure if it makes a difference, or if this makes some sort of change to the EDGE settings for TMo- but that is ALL I did... and I had EDGE right up- did not even have to add wap.voicestream.com

Glad for others that BigBoss thing seems to work, too.

MacCurry
Feb 25, 2008, 12:39 PM
OK, reporting back!

Got a new 16 gigger yesterday (boxed, Apple Store, 1.1.3) Here is EXACTLY what I did.

ZiPhone 2.4 Activate Unlock Jailbreak
Installed BSD Subsystem
Installed OpenSSH
In "Tweaks 1.1.3", Installed "TMobile Carrier Logo" version 1.01. Not sure if it makes a difference, or if this makes some sort of change to the EDGE settings for TMo- but that is ALL I did... and I had EDGE right up- did not even have to add wap.voicestream.com

Glad for others that BigBoss thing seems to work, too.

Where can I find Tweaks 1.1.3? Got an iPhone today and will try this tonight.

carfac
Feb 25, 2008, 03:41 PM
Where can I find Tweaks 1.1.3? Got an iPhone today and will try this tonight.

Sorry- it is in Installer.app ;)

gkarris
Feb 25, 2008, 06:47 PM
Gkarris : I know, I called the tmobile before and the reps keep trying to talk me into signing up the $20 plan. But since some people have tried the 5.99 and works, I thought might as well try to find out how to do it since I already have the plan.

YouTube doesn't work with that BigBoss hack (I just looked it up elsewhere online). YouTube over EDGE here in the Chicago area works fine.

How do you setup the laptop Wifi at Starbucks and Borders with the unlimited plan?

When you are at a T-Mobile hotspot with your laptop. If you have the Total Internet plan, just log into the T-Mobile welcome page and you can also use your laptop at any T-Mobile hotspot. That's part of that $20/month.

KhuntienNang
Feb 26, 2008, 07:39 AM
carfac: hey, how fast is the tzone plan on your iphone? i used the big boss tzone hack, and tzone works, but kinda slow. at some places, it wont even work.

paul B: you mean what kind of tmobile plan i have? i am using family plan, with tmobile web $5.99 plan added on my number. that's all.

wchong
Feb 26, 2008, 07:42 AM
carfac: hey, how fast is the tzone plan on your iphone? i used the big boss tzone hack, and tzone works, but kinda slow. at some places, it wont even work.

paul B: you mean what kind of tmobile plan i have? i am using family plan, with tmobile web $5.99 plan added on my number. that's all.

do you get Edge signal? how slow is it?

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 07:47 AM
carfac: hey, how fast is the tzone plan on your iphone? i used the big boss tzone hack, and tzone works, but kinda slow. at some places, it wont even work.

Slower than my wi-fi. Not sure how to measure the speed.

KhuntienNang
Feb 26, 2008, 07:49 AM
well yeah, i got that little blue square with E letter on top.
i dont know how to measure the speed either, but i could definitely tell that it is a lot slower as compared to if i use wi-fi. at some places (where I only have 1-2 tmobile bars), the edge runs so slow that it feels like it is not working.

wchong
Feb 26, 2008, 08:03 AM
try going to www.speakeasy.net and run the speedtest. i'm not sure if it's flash based, but if it is then discard that idea.

MacCurry
Feb 26, 2008, 09:46 AM
When using ZiPhone Mac GUI 2.4, I got one error, but all is fine. Its a brand new OTB 16GB iPhone.

In the Tweaks folder, not Tweaks 1.1.3, the "TMobile Carrier Logo" is version 1.0, not 1.01. I installed it, but Edge still doesn't work.

Any suggestions?

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 10:12 AM
When using ZiPhone Mac GUI 2.4, I got one error, but all is fine. Its a brand new OTB 16GB iPhone.

In the Tweaks folder, not Tweaks 1.1.3, the "TMobile Carrier Logo" is version 1.0, not 1.01. I installed it, but Edge still doesn't work.

Any suggestions?

Yeah- uninstall THAT one, and try installing the one I told you about. There are TWO versions. That one you did is NOT the one I used. Not that I KNOW the one I used is any different... I just know that this is the one I used, and I am having no problems.

Also, the one you did specifically says it is for 1.1.2... and the one I used is for 1.1.3. Maybe that makes a difference... I dunno.

Good luck and report back- this would be good to nail down!

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 10:15 AM
try going to www.speakeasy.net and run the speedtest. i'm not sure if it's flash based, but if it is then discard that idea.

Just tried it- it says you need Flash 7.0 min... so no go.

ANy other ideas? I am happy to try!

wchong
Feb 26, 2008, 10:18 AM
Just tried it- it says you need Flash 7.0 min... so no go.

ANy other ideas? I am happy to try!

go here: http://www.dslreports.com/stest

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 10:37 AM
go here: http://www.dslreports.com/stest

OK.

Latency of about 1000 ms
Speed 143 kbps

I am at work, with the phone high up on my desk for good reception. I show 4 bars...

dave

wchong
Feb 26, 2008, 10:42 AM
OK.

Latency of about 1000 ms
Speed 143 kbps

I am at work, with the phone high up on my desk for good reception. I show 4 bars...

dave

143 kbps. dang. that's about 18Kilobytes per second...

SLOWWW. how is it when u are surfing the net or watching movies in youtube? compare it to wi-fi (get dslreports test)

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 10:48 AM
Just ran it again- 149kbps this time.

Then I noticed this:

iPhones on ATT Averages:

all time averages: 130 kbps (13749 samples)
24 hour average: 131 kbps

So, at least for me, tmo is a bit faster than the ATT averages

>>> how is it when u are surfing the net or watching movies in youtube? compare it to wi-fi (get dslreports test)

I surf a bit- I use this a LOT when my daughter is at Ballet or Karate (helps blow the time).

Yes, it is slow compared to DSL, but not too bad. Better than being bored. I do tend to stick to more text based sites when possible. But once a page is loaded, if you are doing a lot of reading, speed makes no difference.

I have not tried YouTube on EDGE. It is fine on WiFi at home.

I can get a speed report for WiFi tonight.

MacCurry
Feb 26, 2008, 10:55 AM
Carfac,

Thanks. In the Tweaks 1.1.3 folder there doesn't appear to be anything stated as TMobile Carrier Logo, but I'll check later tonight and report back.

Did you use the command line or the GUI 2.4 version of Ziphone? It appears the command line version runs without error, and although I got 1 error returned everything is fine so far, but would that possibly impact T-Zones? I wouldn't think so.

iPhone is with wife and she's using it - will report later tonight.

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 11:05 AM
In the Tweaks 1.1.3 folder there doesn't appear to be anything stated as TMobile Carrier Logo, but I'll check later tonight and report back.

That is WEIRD! It's right there for me! Do you have a Tweaks (1.1.1), Tweaks (1.1.2) and Tweaks (1.1.3) folders? What version of Installer? Mine just says 3.0, not sure how to check that further. I assume you have updated sources...

Did you use the command line or the GUI 2.4 version of Ziphone? It appears the command line version runs without error, and although I got 1 error returned everything is fine so far, but would that possibly impact T-Zones? I wouldn't think so.

On this phone, GUI 2.3. On my wifes, 2.4 command line. No errors on either.

Maybe you MIGHT want to think about restoring as a new phone back to 1.1.3, and doing it all over? I know, a hassle, but if you have an iMac, you can restore in one account, then mate it with the "real" account and restore your info.

MacCurry
Feb 26, 2008, 01:13 PM
Carfac,

I have Tweaks, Tweaks 1.1.2 and Tweaks 1.1.3 folders. I'm not sure of the installer version since I don't have the iPhone on me.

I will remove ALL applications tonight and re-install. I noticed I had problems doing the BSD and OpenSSH installs since the iPhone was trying to lock to available Wifi networks. I will turn off Wifi and then re-install BSD, OpenSSH and TMobile Carrier Logo.

I might put back the ATT SIM and restore the device to original and start over with the process, but this time use the command line version of Ziphone 2.4 for Mac. As you've suggested.

Thanks for the help and I'll keep you posted.

KhuntienNang
Feb 26, 2008, 08:10 PM
haha. i thought i could not test my speed on the website given

but here i got it, super SLOW! and i have 5 bars of tmobile signal
speed: 63 kbps. haha. freakin slow.
how do i speed it (edge) up?

carfac
Feb 26, 2008, 10:59 PM
Carfac,

I have Tweaks, Tweaks 1.1.2 and Tweaks 1.1.3 folders. I'm not sure of the installer version since I don't have the iPhone on me.

I will remove ALL applications tonight and re-install. I noticed I had problems doing the BSD and OpenSSH installs since the iPhone was trying to lock to available Wifi networks. I will turn off Wifi and then re-install BSD, OpenSSH and TMobile Carrier Logo.

I might put back the ATT SIM and restore the device to original and start over with the process, but this time use the command line version of Ziphone 2.4 for Mac. As you've suggested.

Thanks for the help and I'll keep you posted.

Good Luck!