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megfilmworks
Feb 24, 2008, 09:37 AM
Looks like Blu-ray may follow HD DVD into the dustbins of history.

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9877031-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5



davincijones
Feb 24, 2008, 09:46 AM
I don't think bluray will be doomed and I'm judging this off my own habits and those of my friends (so just as everyone else, I'm probably wrong) but I watch movies on my Xbox 360 through the video store AND if I like the movie and want to own a copy I buy it on blu to be watched on my PS3.

If the movie isn't available yet(Paramount and Universal flicks, etc) I add it to my buy list.

I think many people who say downloads are doomed don't take into account the large number of people that want to keep their technical knowledge to a minimum. These consumer just want a disk that they can pop in and go.

I think the future belongs to both formats. Hell, blu will exist just for the purists that want better video and sound than they can get from a download.

GoCubsGo
Feb 24, 2008, 09:59 AM
I agree with davincijones. The future is for both downloads and now apparently Bluray. Fact is I can tell you that unless you can push a button on a remote and download a movie without much know-how people I know like my parents aren't going to really buy into the whole download your content thing. Hell, I'm half their age and I don't do it all that much. I like DVDs.

iSee
Feb 24, 2008, 10:15 AM
"Doomed" is a sensational way to put it. But, yes, bluray will eventually be substantially replaced.

But it will take a long time before the bandwidth required is so widely available that downloads become the dominant form of delivery.

Bluray, on the other hand, doesn't have any extra infrastructure requirement.

----

But why would we listen to whoever wrote this? It's a bit incoherent. And either the people being quoted are morons or they've been quoted out of context:


"We can use HD discs to train consumers to move into digital, but it's a transition," said Warner Bros.' Dan Silverberg. "Downloaded content will come, but the consumer will get quicker tutorial into video-on-demand, etc., by owning a Blu-ray player or HD DVD."

How is using bluray more of a VOD tutorial than DVD???

People will get tired of replacing their favorite films to the trendy format of the moment. The price of the software ranging from $20 to $30 for Blu-ray discs right now will eventually drop. But digital copies costing less than $5 a pop, it's an easy decision for many.

Did anyone proofread this? And they seem to be comparing the price to buy a bluray disc to the cost of renting a high-def download.

We don't exactly have a sharp market analyst here.

MikieMikie
Feb 24, 2008, 10:54 AM
And to make matters ever more absurd:

Consumers find it difficult to distinguish between HD and SD media.
Has HDTV sell in has reached "mass consumer" numbers?
More than 50% of households that are on the internet still use dial up!

It would be nice if we, as a relatively techno-savy group, represented the mainstream, but we are a very very small minority.

These kinds of articles are equally self-canceling -- a guy I work with recently quoted the NYTimes saying, "There's no future in HD downloads..."

Flip a coin. Place your bets.

IJ Reilly
Feb 24, 2008, 11:02 AM
Blu-ray is to DVD what DVD was to VHS. The new format will supplant the old one simply because content will gradually shift towards the new format, over a period of years. The entertainment industry will see to that. It's all well and good to say that consumers won't want to repurchase their favorite movies in the Blu-ray format, but if the previous transitions are any indication, a great many will. How many of us are still playing our VHS tape collections? As for downloads, I don't see it as being set to replace any hard format, for at least as long as it remains rental only.

Techguy172
Feb 24, 2008, 11:16 AM
Blue is certainly not doomed it will do really well People prefer Discs over downloaded content and all the will be going to Blu-ray now so It will do well until it's superior comes out.

robanga
Feb 24, 2008, 11:20 AM
I think that press reaction is an over-reaction. Let's face it the vast majority of the population does not care to bother with downloads and it only increases slightly as you make it easier in larger increments.

It will be the future but its going to take a long time. Discs have a long and healthy future. Uncle George and Aunt Penelope want to give their little niece and nephew a disney disk on christmas morning, not a card good for a download :)

Tennesotans
Feb 24, 2008, 11:21 AM
From what I've read -- BluRay's biggest competitor is DVD, not downloads. I consider my wife to be an excellent "canary in a coalmine" for most technologies. She's not technophobic but doesn't geek out on complexity.

She can DEFINITELY tell the difference between a HD feed and a SD feed.

I don't know if she can tell the difference between a DVD and ANY form of HD (bluray, hd dvd, directivo hd-lite, apple tv hd). While there might be 6x the amount of information being presented, the enjoyment factor increase just isn't that great.

This is on a 46" 1080p LCD at 9 feet.

Now, *I* can see softness in a DVD versus HD presentation. On our previous 37" LCD 1080p, I couldn't (thus the recent upgrade :)).

I don't see how bluray is going to get much traction. How many people have 1080p LCD/plasma 50" or above? When will they have 1000 *compelling* movies in HD (I rented Bullitt on HD-DVD... NOT a compelling use of HD IMHO).

Now.. being able to rent 5000 movies... at the touch of a button... without leaving the couch.... using any TV sold in the last 4 years. SEEMS like this would work. Obviously time will tell :)

Winstonp
Feb 24, 2008, 11:41 AM
This article was written by CNET exclusively for the purpose of claiming the rights for highlighting a potential controversy concerning the format "war" and subsequently expose consumers to more adds, even though the grounds for their argument (people will migrate exclusively to digital downloads) is far from reality and has little grounds of evidence to suggest it will ever even occur. Just because disc sales are declining, does not mean it is due to digital downloads increasing. Has Miss Ogg from CNET ever completed a statistics course?

I truly do wish that CNET would publish news reports and opinions that have greater grounds for exposure (I.E. valid and related research), instead of just uneducated "research hints". Shame on you, CNET.

Fast Shadow
Feb 24, 2008, 11:46 AM
Meh. More like DRM will be the downfall of digital distribution.

Until DRM is drastically improved so it's no longer consumer hostile, until bandwidth is such that someone can download an HD movie and begin playing it as quickly as if they had the disc in hand, until the image and sound quality of downloaded HD content is as good as a disc, and until all of the extras you can get with a disc are also available via download.. then disc isn't going anywhere.

CWallace
Feb 24, 2008, 05:33 PM
Yes it is "doomed", but if you get many, many years of good service out of it, is that such a bad thing?

Many of us had VHS and LaserDisc, and they were eventually supplanted by DVD. But we got many years if not decades of service out of them (I have VHS tapes and LDs two decades old that still work fine) so I don't begrudge DVD supplanting them.

I own Blu-Ray and I expect to get decades of use out of it, as well.

I think digital downloads are a good idea that, while burdened with some flaws now (resolution, DRM) will get better with time. So just as I transitioned from LD to DVD to BR, so I shall transition to digital downloads in the future.

robrose20
Feb 24, 2008, 06:35 PM
I don't think it is doomed, there will be plenty of people out there who will want to purchase their favorite movies and not have to store GB of data on a hard drive to do it. I think it will share a smaller percentage of units which enable someone to watch HD content, but I don't think it is dead.

Kilamite
Feb 24, 2008, 06:42 PM
Hard to say where I stand.

I own a lot of movies, and they are all now stored on my computer and will be accessed via Apple TV when I get one. Any new movies that I want to watch, I'll download rather than buying disc.

Convenience of being able to just have everything on a hard drive and have one finger access to it all.

If I did buy a Blu-Ray film, I'd end up ripping it to my hard drive for storage, so would defeat the purpose of having it on disc.

FreeState
Feb 24, 2008, 06:53 PM
And to make matters ever more absurd:

Has HDTV sell in has reached "mass consumer" numbers?


Yes.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/19/worldwide-lcd-tv-shipments-surpass-crts-for-first-time-ever/

Feb 19 2008

"LCD TVs have overtaken CRT TVs for the first time in the history"


More than 50% of households that are on the internet still use dial up!


These stats are over a year old now BTW:

"here’s the breakdown of various countries and their dialup access users as at December 2006:

Germany - 10%
South Korea - 4%
China - 15%
USA - 19%
Canada - 16%
France - 25%
UK - 15%
Brazil - 43%
India - 46%
Mexico - 44%
Russia - 52%"

http://www.tamingthebeast.net/blog/web-development/dialup-access-statistics-0407.htm

pilotError
Feb 24, 2008, 07:10 PM
Until download becomes portable (ie. you can pop it in the mini van for the kids), dvd isn't going anywhere. DVD's are cheap now ($4 - $9.99) while blu-ray has actually jumped even higher recently (19.99 - 32.99). You don't see blu-ray in any portable device or any low cost devices for that matter.

This will change over time, but the only way I see either format disappearing is widespread wimax rollouts so you can download pretty much anywhere (ubiquitous internet) at a reasonable enough speed.

neoserver
Feb 24, 2008, 08:02 PM
It is also important to note, that just because someone has broadband internet, doesn't mean they have the bandwidth capabilities to facilitate downloadable movies. you could have a DSL line, but be a long ways away from the CO, and won't have the full capabilities of the line.

Also, as long as there are ISPs such as Comcast who actively disrupt P2P connections (citing that it disrupts the internet experience for other customers), I can't see how consumers could engage in a high-bandwidth activity such as downloadable movie rentals (regardless of whether its P2P or not, video is still high-bandwidth)

Winstonp
Feb 24, 2008, 08:33 PM
Until download becomes portable (ie. you can pop it in the mini van for the kids), dvd isn't going anywhere. DVD's are cheap now ($4 - $9.99) while blu-ray has actually jumped even higher recently (19.99 - 32.99). You don't see blu-ray in any portable device or any low cost devices for that matter.

This will change over time, but the only way I see either format disappearing is widespread wimax rollouts so you can download pretty much anywhere (ubiquitous internet) at a reasonable enough speed.
blu ray is in my notebook PC.

Kilamite
Feb 24, 2008, 08:35 PM
blu ray is in my notebook PC.

I think he means more of the likes of portable DVD players that cost $129 compared to $2000 for a Blu-Ray equipped laptop.

secondcup
Feb 24, 2008, 09:22 PM
I don't know guys (and gals)...I'm still not convinced that a digital file (wether it's MP3 for music, or whatever the leading video format may be) will replace physical media. Having grown up with the record album (remember that) and progressing through CD, MP3 and online downloads, I can tell you that the experiences are quite different.

I was all for buying music from iTunes, and did quite a bit of buying. What I'm starting to miss now is the experience of buying an album, reading the liner notes as I play it for the first time. The same goes for video purchases and downloading a file rather than buying a DVD. Downloading from iTunes is cool and revolutionary, but the experience of buying a physical product and holding in your hands is something that can never be replaced (sorry Apple).

Are there any other old fogies out there that get what I'm saying?
:)

andiwm2003
Feb 24, 2008, 09:28 PM
with usb memory getting cheaper and ceaper i see this a a new format in 5 years or so.

and with downloads being much more convenient than renting a DVD i can see the HD DVD sales declining even more than in the past. you don't need to be able to stream movies in realtime HD. 30 min buffering and you're good to go. or download and watch later.

yes, blu ray will stay around for a long time but not as the dominating format for more than 5-6 years.

nippyjun
Feb 24, 2008, 10:44 PM
advances in compressing data may be the key to the death of disks and the takover of downloads.

VideoFreek
Feb 25, 2008, 05:43 AM
Blu-ray is to DVD what DVD was to VHS. The new format will supplant the old one simply because content will gradually shift towards the new format, over a period of years. The entertainment industry will see to that. It's all well and good to say that consumers won't want to repurchase their favorite movies in the Blu-ray format, but if the previous transitions are any indication, a great many will. How many of us are still playing our VHS tape collections? As for downloads, I don't see it as being set to replace any hard format, for at least as long as it remains rental only.Or, it could be that Blu-ray is to DVD what Laserdisc was to VHS. That is, Blu-ray could become a sort of specialty item for videophiles and people with high-end HT setups, while the mass market moves directly to downloads for the majority of its movie-watching. I think the failure of Laserdisc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laserdisk) to capture the mass market (outside of Japan) in the way that DVD and VHS did ought to be intensively studied by the people marketing Blu-ray right now, because in my view they are making many of the same mistakes, chief among them being keeping prices too high.

Blu-ray has won an important skirmish against HD-DVD, but has it won the overall war? The answer is clearly "not yet," but the $64,000 question is whether consumers will accept the digital download model for rentals and/or purchase. This will of course depend on many factors including the evolution of broadband in North America and Europe (Asia is already pretty well set), as well as the online providers' ability to get the studios behind download--it's all about content, content, content. From my limited but very positive experience so far with iTMS rentals, I think there is real potential in download. But, this will be a paradigm shift for consumers, who have been conditioned for the past several decades to rent or buy physical media. Nevertheless, the impressive success of iTMS for music purchases over a relatively short time frame gives some hope.

So now for my $0.02: I think for the mid-term (5-10 years out), Blu-ray will coexist as a specialty item alongside downloads, as DVD steadily phases out. Long-term (10+ years), I cannot accept that distributing digital entertainment on physical media will make any sense at all. Eventually, when we're all hooked to the net via 100+ mbps connections as some of our Asian friends enjoy today, the vision expressed in the Qwest commercial a few years ago--"every movie ever made, in every language, available 24 hours a day" and with better-than-Blu-ray quality--will be everyday reality.

harcosparky
Feb 25, 2008, 06:30 AM
Will Blu-ray die off?

They told me the same thing about 1/2" reel to reel video recorder and I refused to believe them.

I still have my 1/2" .... though HD content is hard to come by for it. :D :D :D :D

In order to believe Blu-ray is NOT doomed would mean you have to believe that Blu-ray is the final disk solution ..... well it might be .... blu-ray could well be the last disk we use.

I could almost imaging a 'diskless distribution' system for HD movies.

You could either download to a set top box, or take a 'flash drive' to a movie rental house ..... bring it home .... plug it into the card reader slot on your tv and watch the movie.

Blu-ray is after all just another 'stepping stone' in the pathway of technology.

markjewiss
Feb 25, 2008, 06:58 AM
Downloading from iTunes is cool and revolutionary, but the experience of buying a physical product and holding in your hands is something that can never be replaced (sorry Apple).

Are there any other old fogies out there that get what I'm saying?
:)

Definately! And I'm only in my early thirties! I've made the shift from CDs to MP3 files, and can't remember the last time that I bought a CD for myself, I just download everything now. It works well for me, because I've got music on my network to listen too whilst I'm working (I'm home office based, so that's a big deal for me), and everything on an iPod for the car and walking around... but when I'm trying to think of something to play, I still turn around and look at shelves full of cd's for inspiration.

I really don't forsee being able to go digital for movies - I've downloaded a few and watched them using my XBMC-modded XBOX (my cheap AppleTV!), and no matter how good the quality of the file, I'd much rather have the physical disc, the box, the extras, the inlay card...

Sad maybe, but that's me :)

M.

KGoBlin
Feb 25, 2008, 09:14 AM
For digital downloads to work, someone will have to release the video equivalent of the iPod. AppleTV is almost there, but it isn't quite the revolutionary product that Apple wants it to be.
But as Mark said, MP3's and digital audio downloads are now the norm. Remember when the iPod and iTunes music store were first released? Did you think that you would pay $9.99 to digitally download an album when you could go to the store and get a physical CD for a few bucks more? I didn't. But now I hardly ever buy CD's. Unless it's an all time favorite band of mine, all my purchases are made online and downloaded. And even when a CD is purchased, it's immediately loaded into iTunes and then thrown into a box with the rest of my CD's. Once videos can be as easily ripped into a digital archive by the mass market, then you'll see a shift towards digital downloads and away from Blu-Ray/DVD.

IJ Reilly
Feb 25, 2008, 10:12 AM
Or, it could be that Blu-ray is to DVD what Laserdisc was to VHS. That is, Blu-ray could become a sort of specialty item for videophiles and people with high-end HT setups, while the mass market moves directly to downloads for the majority of its movie-watching.

It could happen this way, but in order for it to happen this way, broadband needs to achieve far greater penetration than it has now. Don't forget, broadband internet is still completely unavailable in many parts of the country, and it is still quite expensive even where it can be had. This is the main barrier to the adoption of direct downloads, at least as the primary alternative to hard media. It's also in large part up to the entertainment and hardware industries. If the price of Blu-ray players drops to the price of SD players over the next year or so, and the cost of the discs comes in close to SD-DVD, then this format will can have some legs. Otherwise, yes, I suppose it could become the new Laserdisc.

VideoFreek
Feb 25, 2008, 12:47 PM
It could happen this way, but in order for it to happen this way, broadband needs to achieve far greater penetration than it has now. ...I'm not so sure. The problem with overall statistics is that they include large segments of the population that are irrelevant to this discussion--the fixed-income elderly, the "working poor," etc. What we'd really need to know is what percentage of homes with a HDTV (or that are likely to acquire a HDTV in the next few years) have (or will have) broadband internet access, for it is this segment of the population that forms the relevant battlefield. I suspect broadband penetration in this segment is quite high, but unfortunately I have no data to back this up. I just find it hard to believe that a household with a HDTV would still be accessing the internet via dial-up, unless they live in an area where broadband is unavailable. On the other hand, there are a lot of people like my parents--in their mid-70s and still accessing the internet via dial-up, but also still watching their DVDs and VHS tapes (!) on a 29" standard TV. In their case, at least, I don't see this situation changing much over their remaining lifetime.

Another consideration is that (legally) downloadable movies could just be the "killer app" to drive broadband! For many people, broadband is overkill for what they actually do on the internet--namely e-mail and light web-surfing. This is the main reason that people like my parents see no justification for paying $40/ month or more for broadband; dial-up is considerably cheaper and does what they need it to do. All of this could change if "the masses" get turned on to the convenience of online movies and begin downloading dozens of gigabytes each month, and it could also force the ISPs to stop getting away with murder and actually deliver the performance they claim to deliver! Wouldn't that be grand? :D

gkarris
Feb 25, 2008, 01:27 PM
But digital copies costing less than $5 a pop, it's an easy decision for many.


:confused:

Am I on the wrong iTunes Store? The US store has SD movies for $9.99....

I buy DVD's used from $4 - $8 each....

I buy used/on sale HD DVD's and Blu-rays for $10 - $18....

I prefer a disc I can hold rather than a file which I can only play on my computer/AppleTV...

~Shard~
Feb 25, 2008, 01:34 PM
In order to believe Blu-ray is NOT doomed would mean you have to believe that Blu-ray is the final disk solution ..... well it might be .... blu-ray could well be the last disk we use.

It most definitely is not, just look at HVD and protein-based storage. :cool:

Blu-ray is after all just another 'stepping stone' in the pathway of technology.

Absolutely!

HotRodGuy
Feb 25, 2008, 01:34 PM
just my 2 cents:


Do I think hard media will eventually be take over by downloaded media? Yes.....do i think soon? Definately not, maybe in 10 years.


For one, the technology isn't there to make it effecient (download speeds, etc). Sure some people have it, but 95% of the population doesn't. That's not even touching on storage costs (yes, storage is getting cheaper, but still...most would need several 1TB drives to keep EVERYTHING digital...and that's costly)


We are also a very tangible society, we like having things we can touch. Look what's happened to music, downloads have taken off, but A LOT of people still buy CD's, because they like to have it. I know i've bought a few CD's, brought them home and immediately put it on the computer only to never use the disc again.....but I have the disc!


I know people like my parents, older brothers etc will never go the download route.....I have enough trouble trying to get my wife to not put in the disc of a movie we already have on our ATV. Most people are also computer illiterate....my dad just dropped $1500 on a digital camera and gear...but all he knows how to do is load it to the computer.....and he's better then a lot of people I know.

Pees330
Feb 25, 2008, 01:47 PM
I definitely think that physical media will still be around for many years to come and as the way the masses see movies. I also think that downloads will be the future and Apple is just one of many in this new segment that is actually starting to gain solid ground now. All of the tech savvy people will be the ones to lead the download revolution until everyday folks will grasp it.

I think there will always be a want for physical media. If I had the option to buy a downloadable copy or have the same media on physical for the same price, I would choose physical. Most everyday people are starting to grasp the concept of Netflix, so I think Blu Ray is going to be just fine.

zelmo
Feb 25, 2008, 02:16 PM
I have had a PS3 for over a year, have purchased maybe 35-40 movies in that time, but the only two BR disks I've bought [Apocalypso and Casino Royale] were on sale for $18 or less.

Laserdisk was technologically superior to VHS, but it did not go mainstream because it was too expensive and most people were happy enough with VHS quality for the comparable price.
With DVD, the quality was [again] clearly superior to VHS, but the key factor in the unqualified successful marketing of DVD was that both the players and media dropped in price quickly enough for Wal-Mart to carry them.

BR may have beaten out HD-DVD, but if it wants to be the/a mainstream player until HD digital downloads become the dominant solution, they need to drop player prices under $200 and get the media below $20, with budget players and a broader budget media library to follow.

jaw04005
Feb 25, 2008, 02:56 PM
I buy used/on sale HD DVD's and Blu-rays for $10 - $18....

I prefer a disc I can hold rather than a file which I can only play on my computer/AppleTV...

So very true, also since Blu-ray has that anti-scratch coating—the vast majority of used Blu-ray discs should be in mint condition.

guifa
Feb 25, 2008, 03:24 PM
Yes.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/19/worldwide-lcd-tv-shipments-surpass-crts-for-first-time-ever/

Feb 19 2008

"LCD TVs have overtaken CRT TVs for the first time in the history"
LCD != HDTV

There are plenty of SD LCD screens out there.

Antares
Feb 25, 2008, 03:40 PM
Yes, bandwidth is key. It's not just how many people have broadband access but how many people are using up the bandwidth. If digital downloads (of movies) become mainstream, that would cause quite a few massive bottlenecks in the internet. It's not just how fast your pipeline is, but how wide it is. If you have 1000 people downloading 5MB music files, that's one thing. But now think about 1000 people trying to download 5000MB HD movie files...or 10,000 or 100,000 people trying to do that. We would need a major upgrade to our technology infrastructure, in the United States, to be able to handle that large of an amount of data being moved around. If history is anything to go by, investment in infrastructure upgrades goes very slow in this country. Would people want to wait a day or more to download an HD movie or would they rather spend 10 minutes and pick up a physical copy? Until we get "instant gratification" from downloads, they are not going to supplant DVD or Blu-ray.

Personally, I also still prefer physical media. Like other people have said, I enjoy the fact that it's tangible, something that you can look at and hold in your hand. My legal purchases are almost always physical copies...be it movies or cd's. iTunes is great for getting a specific song that you know and want. However, it's still a pain to just browse for new music. Nothing on the internet has yet been able to compare to going to a store and flipping through cd's or movies. It's just not as fun or easy to do on the internet. That said, when I get a cd, I immediately rip it and file away the cd onto my shelf. But I still play the cd's in my car (no connector to play mp3's). If I rip a movie to play on my Touch, I delete the file afterwards....I don't have the space to store movies, much less HD movies. Storage requirements is another of the limitations of purely digital media.

I don't doubt that digital downloads will one day replace physical media. But as I've said before, in other threads, it will be a long time before we have the infrastructure to allow for purely digital media to replace physical media, not to mention low enough prices (of broadband, storage and the media, itself), quality of Blu-ray and the features of dvd's and Blu-ray discs.

megfilmworks
Feb 25, 2008, 03:58 PM
Lots of great arguments.

One thing about broadband penetration...as of July 2007 53% of all households had hi speed internet with about 3 million new subscribers every quarter.

http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3626328

That's a very large audience already.
And with that plain vanilla broadband it takes about 90-100 minutes to download a HD rental from ITMS, ready to view with in a minute or two.

IJ Reilly
Feb 25, 2008, 04:47 PM
I'm not so sure. The problem with overall statistics is that they include large segments of the population that are irrelevant to this discussion--the fixed-income elderly, the "working poor," etc.

You're forgetting about all the people who don't have broadband because it's simply not available where they live -- no cable, too far from the SO to get DSL. As for cost, virtually everybody can afford a DVD player. These days, they're about the same price as one month of broadband! DVDs cost $10-20 each, or you can rent them for around $4.00. This is the economics broadband downloads are competing with, and the reason why I think hard media and downloads are going to be coexisting for a long time to come.

TyWahn
Feb 25, 2008, 05:03 PM
This is somebody's opinion. A blog entry. It should be labeled as commentary. This is NOT a news piece.
That's the problem with blogs, and the Internet in general. it has blurred the line between real journalism and opinions.
This is MY opinion of it anyway.

wanchaiman
Feb 25, 2008, 09:42 PM
Where I live you can have a fibre optic 1000m line installed in your home.

100M is the common "standard" broadband line....

It's cheap as well..

The bottleneck is actually the download speeds from the servers such as itUnes....

I agree though - it is nice to have the box and the extras on the discs,

BwanaZulia
Feb 26, 2008, 12:23 PM
I don't think BR is doomed, but it sure isn't going to be the next DVD.

DVD set a new stage in terms of size and quality. It worked on every TV out at the time, it was pretty cheap and one standard.

Blu-Ray suffers from a long fight with HD DVD which will just teach people to think twice. Blu-Ray also needs everyone to upgrade their TVs. Blu-Ray is also in direct competition with digital content. Why would I want physical media when I can download, time shift, location shift my content to where I want it.

Hopefully, they will allow DVD burning soon, so I can download that new cartoon for the kids and throw it in the $100 portable player for the car.

I won't be going fully HD until next year, but I will think long and hard about Blu-Ray before doing it. There are at least 300 reasons in my cabinet why I wouldn't get into owning video content again when rental offers all the flexibility and 1/5 the cost.

BZ

MikieMikie
Feb 26, 2008, 01:04 PM
I don't think BR is doomed, but it sure isn't going to be the next DVD.

DVD set a new stage in terms of size and quality. It worked on every TV out at the time, it was pretty cheap and one standard.


So you're too young to remember DivX? Pay to watch a DVD!? Circuit City's (may they rot in hell) horrific scheme?

eleven59
Dec 29, 2008, 02:48 AM
why oooohhhh why do the bluray players have to be the size of some lcd tvs!!! havent they learned!!!? why only now are we seeing dvd players actually in a compact size, yet blu-ray, instead of starting there, took a step back in design!!! :confused: :(

as for physical mediums, i could care less about holding a physical disc... nothing like having instant access to every content you own within seconds and less space to boot....

except for when it comes to having a physical back-up....

i dunno, just seems as though the studios are doing everything they can to hinder digital DLs that it wouldn't surprise me if they have threatned the ISP's to not give us the bandwidth lol

i will say though that it seems DL/mp3 have changed the music and CD markets.. so anything is possible