More New Apple Products... This Tuesday?

[arn]

We'd originally published a story suggesting that MacBook Pros would see updates this Tuesday. Since that time, we've received conflicting reports as to what exactly is being delivered to Apple stores this coming week. Based on product cycles, the safe bet is the MacBook Pro, with 264 days since the last update. That, however, has not stopped Apple from introducing a slew of other products over the past few weeks (iPod Shuffle updates, Aperture 2.0, 16GB iPhone, 32GB iPod Touch)

Sources reveal that shipments of new Apple products (not just Time Capsule) are planned for midweek. Historically, such information tends to reliably predict new product releases. But we can't be confident these necessarily represent new MacBook Pros, or another unexpected announcement (such as premature MacBook or iMac updates).

Previous tidbits of information surrounding the new MacBook Pros have indicated that they will incorporate Penryn processors, an LED screen in the 17" model, and the new-and-improved multi-touch trackpad found in the MacBook Air.

[i.maverick]

oh my..
i hope to go...lol..!!
:rolleyes:

[mactastic1971]

Kudos to the OP for a "safe" page one article...

;)

[Raidersmojo]

might be getting a new laptop at the end of march so it would be nice to see a slight bump in the macbook specs before I get one!

[nlivo]

I guess this is Apple's plan when Steve said "...and we have 50 more weeks to go". Is it possible they are going to release/change something every Tuesday??

[Yankees 4 Life]

nothing to see here boys, carry on

[djellison]

We'd originally published a story suggesting that MacBook Pros would see updates this Tuesday.


LMFAO - MR has posted MBP update rumors that essentialy blanket cover every Tuesday this year. Keep doing that and you eventually end up right and look like a hero.

[anti-microsoft]

I hope they fix the wetness of the new iMacs (20" models)... it's not nice to be a switcher and have a bad experience with the Mac* (As it is a wonderful and enjoyable machine, so we don't want former Windows users think otherwise!)

*This is not my case.

[NoLongerAPCGuy]

I sure hope they arrive this week!! I can hardly wait to take a sledgehammer to my Dell lapotop!!

[diehardmacfan]

I guess this is Apple's plan when Steve said "...and we have 50 more weeks to go". Is it possible they are going to release/change something every Tuesday??

yeh that would be awsome, hopefully it will help AAPL

[BornAgainMac]

I bet people complain again on the specs such as the choice of graphic card or same old design. Place all your complaints about waiting below....

[arn]

LMFAO - MR has posted MBP update rumors that essentialy blanket cover every Tuesday this year. Keep doing that and you eventually end up right and look like a hero.

If you can't distinguish Page 2 vs Page 1 information, you should stop reading Page 2.

arn

[tbeahrs]

If it really is one of the three (MBPs MBs or iMacs), I'm putting my money on new MBPs because that seems a LOT more likely than the other two.

Heck I think I'll buy no matter what gets updated just to have some closure on this gall darn waiting game.

Misery

Bring on the Multitouch MBP!!!:D

[applemumba]

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I guess this is Apple's plan when Steve said "...and we have 50 more weeks to go". Is it possible they are going to release/change something every Tuesday??

Something I originally thought when he said that. 50 weeks to go, that 50 new product launchs! What a great way for marketing apple products.

You go Steve Jobs, let's make it happen!

[razorianfly]

Does this mean Apple will skip having an event, and just release silent updates? - we shall see ...

[BlueScreenX]

new mpb would be wonderful :)

[zap2]

Lets get update the whole laptop line up


MacBook can get the new look(like the iMac), and MacBook Pro can get a nice spec update

[basesloaded190]

hmmm.. well i guess we can believe it when we see it! i don't need a new mbp but am very excited to see what apple throws at us hopefully in the near future

[11800506]

Well if it turns out to be true, it will be nice so that people will stop complaining about the need for new Macbook Pros, although it will eventually start up again for iMacs or Macbooks, so...

[Grimace]

If only so we can stop having every thread hijacked "that's nice...but I still hate Apple for not giving me my deserved MacBook Pro update!" :mad:

Sheeesh.

[zap2]

Does this mean Apple will skip having an event, and just release silent updates? - we shall see ...

To be fair, these recent updates, while nice, aren't "event updates"


The only computer which needs a "event worthy" upgrade is the MacBook...but I doubt we'll see an event just for that.

Maybe an event with new MacBook, iPhone/iPod touch SDK, and Mac Mini stuff...but who knows!

[razorianfly]

I personally hope they throw updates at the iMac, as i'm in the market for one, very, very soon.

R-Fly

[tbeahrs]

If only so we can stop having every thread hijacked "that's nice...but I still hate Apple for not giving me my deserved MacBook Pro update!" :mad:

Sheeesh.

The mob wants what the mob wants

[liberty4all]

What is taking Apple so long to integrate Blu-Ray across it's line?! For a company with computers focused on media, this is unacceptable in my book -- at least make it a BTO option!!!

Also, lack of 3/4G integrated wireless is just stupid in MacBook Pros, at least as a BTO option, not taking up any card slot!

[MikeyC]

Lets get update the whole laptop line up


MacBook can get the new look(like the iMac), and MacBook Pro can get a nice spec update

I personally think this might happen. I remember reading that there was a shortage of these new processors, so maybe Apple took the decision to delay the MBP release until the MacBook was old enough to upgrade.

At that point, Apple could then to a massive overhall on the whole laptop range, tieing in the MB and MBP to the new style of the MBA. This would provide Apple with a massive boost to sales, and attract a LOT of attention!

[sterlingindigo]

Bring it Apple!

TUEDAY! TUESDAY! TUESDAY!

[skellener]

MBP and iMac updates should coincide. Both use almost the same hardware and the iMac can run any chip the MBP can (and even faster) since it has less restrictions on power consumption since there's no battery.

[tamseven]

MBP please... I have been waiting since August and I really need a new notebook, please don't make me wait longer steve!! :D

[tomasio]

..they come up with this. ya-hoo!

[NC MacGuy]

Apple is on quite roll with new product releases. The stock if in better overall economy would be sky high. Every Tuesday since MW they've announced something, let's hope this week it is MBP's. I'd like a new case design too.

Hopefully new shipments aren't just 2G shuffles or time capsules, even though it would be nice to get one of each.

[bj3949]

To be fair, these recent updates, while nice, aren't "event updates"


The only computer which needs a "event worthy" upgrade is the MacBook...but I doubt we'll see an event just for that.

Maybe an event with new MacBook, iPhone/iPod touch SDK, and Mac Mini stuff...but who knows!

If only this new MBP could have multi-touch on the screen like iPhone.
But we all know it won't :(

[mactastic1971]

I want the new MBP to run at 1 TFlops, feed the world and solve the crisis in the middle east. Come on SJ ... Don't let us down...

:rolleyes:

[mas90guru]

Um, Time Capsule. Due data "February".

Wouldn't that be one product that could logically be expected to be out this coming week.

It's not jazzy or sexy -- but then again anything jazzy or sexy would have premiered at Macworld.

Just my .02

[bj3949]

Why no Multi-Touch Screen on new MBP?

Will someone please tell me why Apple won't do this? Why are they keeping the Multi-Touch strictly to the keypad?

[novocaine]

Could the shipment simply be Time Capsule?...

[Darkroom]

i'm hoping for all the suffers who have been waiting for new MBPs will finally see the light this week, but i'm really hoping for an iMac update as that's what i'm in line for...

[rrr]

Um, Time Capsule. Due data "February".

Agreed. These units are expected in Feb. Arn, is there evidence suggesting these midweek shipments may very well be more than just Time Capsules?


rrr

[mactastic1971]

Why no Multi-Touch Screen on new MBP?

Will someone please tell me why Apple won't do this? Why are they keeping the Multi-Touch strictly to the keypad?

Ford aren't going to make a Focus with a Shelby engine now are they ???

[McGiord]

So this will be a silent release from :apple:. The rumored event on the 26th was just a rumor.
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[BklynKid]

Could the shipment simply be Time Capsule?...

Exactly. There will be many disappointed people again come this Tuesday.

[bj3949]

Ford aren't going to make a Focus with a Shelby engine now are they ???

What is that supposed to mean?

[j-a-x]

My guess is the iPhone SDK. Apple even announced it would be released at the end of Feb, and the reports that it is delayed aren't necessarily credible.

[apple101]

I want my new MacBook. Does anybody know if it would have a new case design? I'm planning on getting on my graduation for high school!0

[unrecorded]

I sure hope they arrive this week!! I can hardly wait to take a sledgehammer to my Dell lapotop!!

same here... my inspiron 9100 is so fried, at this point the fans are louder than my car's engine.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let it be this week!

[billystlyes]

LMFAO - MR has posted MBP update rumors that essentialy blanket cover every Tuesday this year. Keep doing that and you eventually end up right and look like a hero.

Once the new MBPs hit, it will be, "New iMacs next Tuesday?'' Even a broken clock is right two times a day people. :D

[djellison]

What is taking Apple so long to integrate Blu-Ray across it's line?!

Because they've got both feet firmly suck about 5 year behind. Case in point - combo drive on cheap MB and MM. Only once they've stopped shafting customers with that old p.o.s. can they move on and give their pro line ( supposedly the best platform for content creativity ) the optical drive it deserves.

Doug

[jaydub]

I'm waiting for Tuesday evening's slew of threads about how disappointed everyone is with what was released, or how what was released didn't revolutionize the computer industry, or how it doesn't have sixteen FW800 ports, or ...

I feel like we've all gotten so used to Apple upgrading their machines periodically that we've learned to expect them. I don't see this sort of behavior with any other manufacturers.

[mactastic1971]

What is that supposed to mean?

Ok .. let me break it down for you...

Ford are not going to put a 600bhp engine in a ***** car... when they can sell a shiny cool car for $$$ with the 600bhp engine it it?

Its business 101... increasing sales across multiple markets...

[andrewdewey]

I am not sure what the "sources" are but it sounds like an Apple plant. The rumors and the delays have been going on so long that there must be some in the laptop market who are wondering if they can get by on a Vaio for the next year or so until the MBPs catch up. So with all the grumbling it would make sense for Apple to plant a tantalizing story of upcoming Feb announcement, imply a MBP update is coming and prevent any reverse-switchers.

By the way, while I am officially a switcher, I run both flavors on my network since some clients provide wintel machines. My policy is not buy another Wintel but this is getting ridiculous ...

[2bcool2]

this just in....

thousands of truck convoys carrying the apple logo have been spotted all over the world today .

sources say they seem to be carrying boxes the size of a macbook pro.

it all points to the imminent release of the MBP.


edit: we cannot now confirm this, as conflicting sources say that they could be the new updated lisa computer that has been delayed for 25 years, but speculate the boxes most lightly carry toasters......no...really, apparently consumption of toast has gone through the roof...especialy on tuesdays

cant.....wait....much......... long......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[padré]

bj3949 Why no Multi-Touch Screen on new MBP?

Will someone please tell me why Apple won't do this? Why are they keeping the Multi-Touch strictly to the keypad?

its wouldn't be the "apple way"
apple has allways been for a slow aproach.

eventually it they will announce a computer or monitor with the multi touch included.
the mutli touch trackpad is just the first step on the road.

by the way it would be to soon to announce such a product, it will be a drastical change on how we use labtops, it would be to sudden, to soon for us buyers and to soon for the industry.

:apple:

[Schizophrenic]

OK exciting news, BUT.. What would you guys feel if Apple comes up with Montevina MBP three months later (in June)?? Gosh this whole thing is driving me nuts :-(

[pounce]

might this just be the arrival of the time capsules?

i'm all for the new mbp's, but i also know that time capsules are due to arrive any time now and that might be what is getting sent to the stores now.

[melchior]

i'm hanging out for the media event where apple says they're changing their name back to 'apple computers' because they've realised they are just a computer company. :rolleyes:

but i'd settle for a mbp, because i need it by march 14!!!

[mactastic1971]

this just in....

thousands of truck convoys carrying the apple logo have been spotted all over the world today .

sources say they seem to be carrying boxes the size of a macbook pro.

it all points to the imminent release of the MBP.


edit: we cannot now confirm this, as conflicting sources say that they could be the new updated lisa computer that has been delayed for 25 years, but speculate the boxes most lightly carry toasters......no...really, apparently consumption of toast has gone through the roof...especialy on tuesdays

cant.....wait....much......... long......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Yes, its time to bring back the thread on iToaster !!!
;)

[cloudnine]

If you can't distinguish Page 2 vs Page 1 information, you should stop reading Page 2.

arn

"There might be updates, we're not sure. They might update this, but they might update that."

Sounds like a Page 2 story to me ;)

[McGiord]

What else could :apple: be releasing during all these upcoming Tuesdays?
I mean new products, no product updates.
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[bj3949]

Ok .. let me break it down for you...

Ford are not going to put a 600bhp engine in a ***** car... when they can sell a shiny cool car for $$$ with the 600bhp engine it it?

Its business 101... increasing sales across multiple markets...

The MacBook Pro is not a "***** car". It's Apple's top of the line laptop! It's way overdue for a complete revision. Introducing a MacBook Touch or MacBook Pro (Touch) would be the hottest selling item since iPhone. I think Apple is going to update the MacBook Pro we all have with multi-touch keypad, and then in June or Jan. '09, introduce the all-new MBP Touch.

[MARTB]

Sunday No. 7 since MW and wishing for a updated MBP on Tuesday....

PRETTY PLEEZZZE :apple:

The suspense is killing me.

[2bcool2]

i think tuesdays should now be called 'Apple disappointment days'

pass the prozac round

[bitethatapple]

I've been waiting for months at this stage for my shiny new MBP, I don't think I can be disappointed on another Tuesday...:mad:
Page 1 news is good stuff, though I'm similarly skeptical that this may simply be the promised 'Time Capsule'.

If the MBPs do ship on Tuesday, how long till they reach Apple Stores in the US? Days/Weeks??

p.s. Anodised colour aluminium would be pretty cool if they revamp the casing (with the equally cool multitouch trackpad!), any thoughts?:o

[BTW]

Maybe the MacBook Pro refresh was delayed since they were going to include HD DVD drives in it. The swap-out put the new MacBook release 3 weeks behind schedule. :D

[chelsel]

Please!

[Peace]

Please!


That's an Apple event not a refresh.

I say Macbook Tuesday.Macbook Pro later.

[mactastic1971]

The MacBook Pro is not a "***** car". It's Apple's top of the line laptop! It's way overdue for a complete revision. Introducing a MacBook Touch or MacBook Pro (Touch) would be the hottest selling item since iPhone. I think Apple is going to update the MacBook Pro we all have with multi-touch keypad, and then in June or Jan. '09, introduce the all-new MBP Touch.

Ok - Im not saying the MBP is ***** - all I am saying is that Apple would rather open a new segment than update the existing segment. Remember that its a monumental leap to go from keyboards to touch-screen. These things start mega high end and depending on take-up proliferate down through the business lines over many generations.

Secondly, touch screen as I see it here in Cali, appears to be for people who wanna look cool and get laid as opposed to professional people who wanna work, hence MBP(rofessional)...

[mathewr]

today is his bday i only know this cause tomorrow is my bday. so maybe there will be some kind of sdk/ s jobs bday celebration this week./ mine

[bj3949]

Ok - Im not saying the MBP is ***** - all I am saying is that Apple would rather open a new segment than update the existing segment. Remember that its a monumental leap to go from keyboards to touch-screen. These things start mega high end and depending on take-up proliferate down through the business lines over many generations.

But don't you think by this June, it's finally time for that incredible new MBP Touch?

Also, the touch screen in Cali theory is untrue. Yes, people like to show it off, but it's user-friendliness and it's functionality is better than anything out there.

[peejack]

Just face it you guys have no idea :rolleyes::rolleyes::p

[inkswamp]

Wouldn't there have been drops in the delivery times at the Apple store or some tell-tale shortages in Mac inventories? I haven't seen any posts here about that. I'm leaning toward this not happening, especially with the iMac. It's starting to look like Apple's doing this year what they did with the iMac last time around, which is significant updates once-per-year. Sort of pathetic, really. Their line-up should be updated no less than 3 times a year. There's no real excuse for not doing that and if Apple can't do that, they should drop the prices off over the lifetime of the machine.

[MARTB]

That, however, has not stopped Apple from introducing a slew of other products over the past few weeks (iPod Shuffle updates, Aperture 2.0, 16GB iPhone, 32GB iPod Touch)



forgot about the PINK IPOD :D

[mactastic1971]

But don't you think by this June, it's finally time for that incredible new MBP Touch?

Ehhh, nope.
I can see from you're past posts you need this touch-screen like a sick person needs some drugs but face facts... you're going to be waiting a few years yet ...Sorry dude!

:(

[iDAG]

I remember when Apple made the switch from using Core Duo to Core 2 Duo processors. They were first put into the iMac's and then a month later into the MacBook Pro's followed by a month later the MacBook's. I think it is very possible that we could see new iMacs this week and when Apple does have an event next month, we'll see a redesigned MacBook Pro.

[arn]

Agreed. These units are expected in Feb. Arn, is there evidence suggesting these midweek shipments may very well be more than just Time Capsules?


rrr

ya, it's pretty clearly not time capsule.

arn

[Stridder44]

If only so we can stop having every thread hijacked "that's nice...but I still hate Apple for not giving me my deserved MacBook Pro update!" :mad:

Sheeesh.


You'd be here right along with us if you were waiting too.

Ford aren't going to make a Focus with a Shelby engine now are they ???

Dude, if anything the MBA is the Focus and the MBP is the Shelby. The Shelby would have power...something the MBP has and the MBA does not. The Focus is the one that is all about being small, economy, etc.

For comparision reasons, the Mac Pro would be a Koenigsegg or a Bugatti Veyron.

[mactastic1971]

But don't you think by this June, it's finally time for that incredible new MBP Touch?

Also, the touch screen in Cali theory is untrue. Yes, people like to show it off, but it's user-friendliness and it's functionality is better than anything out there.

I work in an office with 30 people.
20 of them are single and 20 of them have iphones and all of then say it boosts they "pulling capabilities" ...

Course, thats meterialistic cali for you...

"hey its Saturday, lets go out and spend some money on, like, anything dude"

[twoodcc]

hopefully they'll be more stuff with the new mbp, like an updated mac mini or imac. and what about the iPhone SDK?

[k2spitfire88]

Maybe the MacBook Pro refresh was delayed since they were going to include HD DVD drives in it. The swap-out put the new MacBook release 3 weeks behind schedule. :D

I don't think so. If my memory serves me right, Apple is involved in Blu-Ray some how, so the HD-DVD wouldn't have even been an option, or a reason for the delay. Hopefully they come out this Tuesday!!! :apple:

[iDAG]

hopefully they'll be more stuff with the new mbp, like an updated mac mini or imac. and what about the iPhone SDK?

The SDK is going to be delayed 2-3 weeks.

[Burtonsnow9]

ya, it's pretty clearly not time capsule.

arn

def a good sign:D

[melchior]

OK exciting news, BUT.. What would you guys feel if Apple comes up with Montevina MBP three months later (in June)?? Gosh this whole thing is driving me nuts :-(

there will be no montevina in june for apple. think september.

[jameskohn]

Before we get entirely too presumptuous, isn't Time Capsule supposed to ship in February? Isn't that the more likely scenario, since it's already on the front page of the online Apple store and it's already been promised to ship this week?

[calabi]

just out of interest, is arn waiting for a new macbook pro :) ?

[razorianfly]

ya, it's pretty clearly not time capsule.

arn

Interesting. From this I gather MR has some strong 'clarification' of what will be announced on Tuesday/Friday of next week.

If only you could spill it Arn ... :)

[bj3949]

I work in an office with 30 people.
20 of them are single and 20 of them have iphones and all of then say it boosts they "pulling capabilities" ...

Course, thats meterialistic cali for you...

"hey its Saturday, lets go out and spend some money on, like, anything dude"

I'm not denying that it "boosts pulling capablitilies". I'm just saying that it's touch screen interface, it's user-friendliness & it's top-of-the-line functionality surpasses any phone out there. It's the perfect phone. It helps get you laid and as a smartphone blows everything else away.

[lekun]

Are there conflicting reports like one source says iMac and one says MBP or is it that sources say "there are new products we just don't have a clue?"

[melchior]

I don't think so. If my memory serves me right, Apple is involved in Blu-Ray some how, so the HD-DVD wouldn't have even been an option, or a reason for the delay. Hopefully they come out this Tuesday!!! :apple:

I believe he was being facetious.

that being said, since a lot of people want blu-ray, and i'm not one of them, the issue lies around needing an extra chip. apple may hold until the montevina platform is ready, as it does not require this extra hardware.

[Cybergypsy]

Love to see a new macbook before a MBP

[bj3949]

Again, I have to have the same old bulky MBP with some minor updates like a multi-touch keypad. We deserve more for waiting this long.

[melchior]

Again, I have to have the same old bulky MBP with some minor updates like a multi-touch keypad. We deserve more for waiting this long.

you sound upset, like a jilted lover, maybe you need some sony love, to learn what it is to hate?

[kuebby]

Again, I have to have the same old bulky MBP with some minor updates like a multi-touch keypad. We deserve more for waiting this long.

Bulky MBP?! What? Please, show me a 15" professional quality laptop that is smaller and lighter than the MBP.

There's a reason the basic design of the pro laptop hasn't changed since the PB days, when you find something that works, you keep it.

[iDAG]

Love to see a new macbook before a MBP

I thought you had a MacBook Air!!! :eek: The only way the MacBook will get updated before the MacBook Pro is if it only gets a speed bump and stays on the Santa Rosa platform.

[Stridder44]

Bulky MBP?! What? Please, show me a 15" professional quality laptop that is smaller and lighter than the MBP.

There's a reason the basic design of the pro laptop hasn't changed since the PB days, when you find something that works, you keep it.

Err, I think I know what he's trying to say so I'll clarify for him. By bulky he means old. He wants a redesign. Something fresh looking that doesn't have the old keyboard and nasty non-magnetic latch.

ya, it's pretty clearly not time capsule.

arn

That's all I need to know. Thank you Arn. :)

[bj3949]

Bulky MBP?! What? Please, show me a 15" professional quality laptop that is smaller and lighter than the MBP.

There's a reason the basic design of the pro laptop hasn't changed since the PB days, when you find something that works, you keep it.

I'm not saying that there is a smaller and lighter pro laptop then MBP; I'm just saying that Apple is way overdue on completely revising the MBP and introducing the All-New MacBook Pro. And, when they do, they should definitely include a screen that gives you the option to multi-touch if you wanted to.

[MrT8064]

There's a reason the basic design of the pro laptop hasn't changed since the PB days, when you find something that works, you keep it.

hmm, not quite sure about this: why would companies update their products if they already work fine?

e.g nano G1, it was fine, why couldnt they have just re-done the internals (more storage/battery)

the white iMac, what was wrong with that?

[MacFly123]

Why no Multi-Touch Screen on new MBP?

Will someone please tell me why Apple won't do this? Why are they keeping the Multi-Touch strictly to the keypad?

Um because it is not practical or functional at all maybe??? :rolleyes:

[afields]

i believe

[QCassidy352]

If you can't distinguish Page 2 vs Page 1 information, you should stop reading Page 2.

arn

zing! take that, random poster! ;)

In all seriousness though... when MR has page 1 rumors based on its own sources (as opposed to either page 2 rumors, or page 1 but just reporting what other sites say) its accuracy has traditionally been extremely high.

[MacFly123]

My guess is the iPhone SDK. Apple even announced it would be released at the end of Feb, and the reports that it is delayed aren't necessarily credible.

So your guess is that Apple is going to ship an SDK next week?? LOL, do you know what an SDK is by chance??? Not exactly something that will be sold in Apple stores lol :rolleyes:

[dfmckay]

I placed an order for a BTO MPB on the 6th and last friday they told me that it was still in the being built phase and might ship either friday or monday. If they release a new one on tues and I get the older model I might just have to go beat up SJ's car with a crowbar.

[mactastic1971]

I'm not saying that there is a smaller and lighter pro laptop then MBP; I'm just saying that Apple is way overdue on completely revising the MBP and introducing the All-New MacBook Pro. And, when they do, they should definitely include a screen that gives you the option to multi-touch if you wanted to.

Im sorry dude.
Im sure your hearts in the right place but you're getting pounded here !!!

[bj3949]

Um because it is not practical or functional at all maybe??? :rolleyes:

How is it not practical or functional? The multi-touch keypad should DEFINITELY stay, but I'm just saying that the multi-touch screen should be there as an option. AS a user, you should be able to turn Multi-Touch screen ON/OFF as you choose. I just want the option to touch a bookmark in my Safari bookmark bar or touch a link on CNN.com or touch an app icon in the dock if I wanted to. Like iPhone heaven. That's all I'm saying. Wouldn't you?

[andrewdale]

I don't understand why people think that the MacBook would be updated, especially before the MacBook Pro. Especially since its a LONG ways away from being at the end of a cycle. The MBP is must more due for an update.

[MacFly123]

Because they've got both feet firmly suck about 5 year behind. Case in point - combo drive on cheap MB and MM. Only once they've stopped shafting customers with that old p.o.s. can they move on and give their pro line ( supposedly the best platform for content creativity ) the optical drive it deserves.

Doug

I love Apple, but even I will admit it is pretty retarded that they still have a combo drive in anything!

[aygie]

Probably going to be Apple letting everyone know they've sold FCP to Adobe :mad:

[iMacDave]

I wouldn't get too excited about this coming Tuesday yet. It might be new MP Pros, but it might just be the new Time Capsules which were due out "in February".

[mactastic1971]

How is it not practical or functional? The multi-touch keypad should DEFINITELY stay, but I'm just saying that the multi-touch screen should be there as an option. AS a user, you should be able to turn Multi-Touch screen ON/OFF as you choose. I just want the option to touch a bookmark in my Safari bookmark bar or touch a link on CNN.com or touch an app icon in the dock if I wanted to. Like iPhone heaven. That's all I'm saying. Wouldn't you?

BUY AN IPHONE THEN DUDE !!!

:D

[bj3949]

Im sorry dude.
Im sure your hearts in the right place but you're getting pounded here !!!

How am I getting pounded? Is this a contest?
Ha. You're funny.

[kuebby]

Err, I think I know what he's trying to say so I'll clarify for him. By bulky he means old. He wants a redesign. Something fresh looking that doesn't have the old keyboard and nasty non-magnetic latch.


I'll agree about the clip latch, that would be nice to get rid of, but I really like the current MBP design. IMO, the keyboard is awesome and the general look of the MBP is still way ahead of everyone else. The look of the keyboard with the speaker grills and the matching touchpad just looks so perfect to me; I can't imagine a total redesign looking any better, but Apple is certainly full of surprises.

hmm, not quite sure about this: why would companies update their products if they already work fine?

e.g nano G1, it was fine, why couldnt they have just re-done the internals (more storage/battery)


Well I think the nano did get better in G2. The anodized aluminum didn't scratch like the shiny back of the G1.

[MrT8064]

i would love to see Flash for iPhone sometime soon, that would be VERY cool!! in my opinion cooler than SKD, because we can have all the apps we want already!

and flash would really make the iPhone browsing experience complete.

[bj3949]

[QUOTE=kuebby;5029531]I'll agree about the clip latch, that would be nice to get rid of, but I really like the current MBP design. IMO, the keyboard is awesome and the general look of the MBP is still way ahead of everyone else. The look of the keyboard with the speaker grills and the matching touchpad just looks so perfect to me; I can't imagine a total redesign looking any better, but Apple is certainly full of surprises.

Ok buddy. Then you keep your MBP you have now and I'll buy the new one when it comes out. We'll both be happy ;)

[bj3949]

i would love to see Flash for iPhone sometime soon, that would be VERY cool!! in my opinion cooler than SKD, because we can have all the apps we want already!

and flash would really make the iPhone browsing experience complete.

Flash is coming this coming week in iPhone update 1.1.4.

[novocaine]

I wouldn't get too excited about this coming Tuesday yet. It might be new MP Pros, but it might just be the new Time Capsules which were due out "in February".

arn already said it's quite clear that it's not time capsule. check the thread.

[MacFly123]

Here we go again lol.

[abrooks]

Probably going to be Apple letting everyone know they've sold FCP to Adobe :mad:

Won't happen, Apple have a great market share with FCP.

[MacFly123]

Please!

Amen!!! Seriously are they EVER going to update them??? It is really starting to piss me off. I have to buy a Mac Pro soon and I want new displays!

[MrT8064]

Here we go again lol.

pretty nice, are we assuming there is a thin layer of glass covering the glossy screen....

...if so, pro's wont like this!

[newyorkguy]

Probably going to be Apple letting everyone know they've sold FCP to Adobe :mad:

Then i will go back to iMovie again, which will work better. And of course Tiger.:cool: :mad:
Leopard is still a PITA. I personally give a s*** about new MBP or something.

[aygie]

Won't happen, Apple have a great market share with FCP.

I really hope so but over the last six months the rumors have gone from Apple thinking of selling to Apple taking bids to Apple has a done deal. I hope i'm wrong.

[FUNK]

arn already said it's quite clear that it's not time capsule. check the thread.

I love that everyone keep suggesting that it is just the time capsule even though arn already said it was clearly not that.

I'm pro MB style keyboard, mag-latch
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=104761&d=1203890553
That is freakin' pretty! but I'd want the normal speakers on the side of the keyboard.

[Stridder44]

I'll agree about the clip latch, that would be nice to get rid of, but I really like the current MBP design. IMO, the keyboard is awesome and the general look of the MBP is still way ahead of everyone else. The look of the keyboard with the speaker grills and the matching touchpad just looks so perfect to me; I can't imagine a total redesign looking any better, but Apple is certainly full of surprises.


You can't imagine how a redesign would make it look better? Have you seen either the MBA or even the MB? The MBP was nice at one time in the same way a 1970's Lamborghini is nice compared to a current day model. It's still neat, but you can't seriously want to live in the past forever. It's time for a change. Time to move on.

They will make it better, and you'll probably like the new look. Remember this: there were people who HATED the current design when it came out too. They don't seem to mind today though.

[sblasl]

Based on some of the post on the Apple forums:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6685552#6685552

"Best Buy has Time Capsule is advertised in their current weekly ad dated 2-24-08 to 3-1-08"

From the sweetwater.com site:
"It's Arriving Soon!
We've confirmed this item has shipped from Apple and should arrive in our warehouse within a day or two. Please call and place your order now. We will ship it immediately, the very same day we receive it from Apple. Call now. We promise you'll have it soon."

[MacFly123]

But don't you think by this June, it's finally time for that incredible new MBP Touch?

Also, the touch screen in Cali theory is untrue. Yes, people like to show it off, but it's user-friendliness and it's functionality is better than anything out there.
Apple is just barely starting to implement Multi-Touch with the MacBook Air. And even if they ever do make a Multi-Touch screen which I don't think they will for at least 3-5 years if at all then the OS has to support it. Small detail ;) What they are going to do is get rid of the keyboard and track pad and have that replaced with an entire touch surface which is NOT the screen. That will be in about 2 years when 10.6 comes and they have added all that into the OS.

If you want a touch screen then what you should be hoping for is the new Newton. That will be separate from the laptops.

[NoLongerAPCGuy]

My guess is that Apple is shipping the Time Capsules. I was at an Apple Store on Friday and the sales person mentioned that they expected the Time Capsules on Monday or Tuesday.

[ungraphic]

Maybe steve jobs will live up to his ego when he said that mac pros will offer great expansion. With that said, where the **** is my geforce 8800, or something of equal quality for my first gen mac pro?

[theddie]

Here we go again lol.

If there is a new MBP coming out, which I pray that there is, I hope it looks nothing like that. I think the keyboard on that image would be way too much like the MB keyboard and that it would totally destroy the effect of having a "Pro" notebook.

[aswitcher]

Its surprising to me that Apple have managed to keep the lid on all the feature and form factor upgrades on this one.

[bitethatapple]

Here we go again lol.

It's pretty, I want it :D

[MacFly123]

Again, I have to have the same old bulky MBP with some minor updates like a multi-touch keypad. We deserve more for waiting this long.

I don't know what you consider "bulky" lol. Are you serious??? :rolleyes:

[strachanjm]

How is it not practical or functional? The multi-touch keypad should DEFINITELY stay, but I'm just saying that the multi-touch screen should be there as an option. AS a user, you should be able to turn Multi-Touch screen ON/OFF as you choose. I just want the option to touch a bookmark in my Safari bookmark bar or touch a link on CNN.com or touch an app icon in the dock if I wanted to. Like iPhone heaven. That's all I'm saying. Wouldn't you?

Actually I try and make a habit of touching my screen as little as possible, so no.

[outkast564]

What is all this talk of new MBP's or new MB, but I don't think Apple would launch such flagship devices without an event. An event wouldn't come about without invitations at least a week ahead of time.

Did we forget the announcement we recently got? The shipment coming later this week will be the newly released 2GB iPod Shuffles.

[bj3949]

I don't know what you consider "bulky" lol. Are you serious??? :rolleyes:

I mean it's thick and old. Apple can definitely thin the thing out by now and make it lighter and it's time that they did. It's a great machine, but it's way overdue for a serious revision. And, Apple must be able to execute this by now.
That's all I'm saying.
Why don't you keep your MBP and I'll by the new and I'll buy the new & improved one?

[MacFly123]

I'm not saying that there is a smaller and lighter pro laptop then MBP; I'm just saying that Apple is way overdue on completely revising the MBP and introducing the All-New MacBook Pro. And, when they do, they should definitely include a screen that gives you the option to multi-touch if you wanted to.

You Multi-Touch screen people really aren't keen on how Apple is implementing Multi-Touch are you??? That will be in the Newton. The laptops and desktops will ditch the keyboard and have that patent Multi-Touch surface we just saw. But that won't be for a couple years after they all get the MacBook Air style trackpads to ease us into it.

[bj3949]

Actually I try and make a habit of touching my screen as little as possible, so no.

Then why did you buy the iPhone?

[Marco1982]

hopefully the new MBP comes out. would be pretty important for me, especially because i told my employer i'll go to work again, when i hold the lovely notebook in my hands ...

ok, not true, but i'm waiting very hard for it. somehow i fear, that apple uses the MBP that all the hard waiting people take a look on the apple site every tuesday to check if it comes out and they delay it as long as possible :(

best wishes from austria!
marco

[ungraphic]

Then why did you buy the iPhone?

To look cool in public, albeit being laughed at by blackberry owners.

[bj3949]

You Multi-Touch screen people really aren't keen on how Apple is implementing Multi-Touch are you??? That will be in the Newton. The laptops and desktops will ditch the keyboard and have that patent Multi-Touch surface we just saw. But that won't be for a couple years after they all get the MacBook Air style trackpads to ease us into it.

All that sounds very likely and exciting, and I agree with it; I'm just saying that we should also have the option to touch the actual screen if we wanted to.

[MacFly123]

hmm, not quite sure about this: why would companies update their products if they already work fine?

e.g nano G1, it was fine, why couldnt they have just re-done the internals (more storage/battery)

the white iMac, what was wrong with that?

Apple is one of the few companies that does obsolete their own products even when they are still very successful with something even more cool.

[bj3949]

To look cool in public, albeit being laughed at by blackberry owners.

The way you give your iPhone a quick wipe down, you'd do that to your laptop.
Big deal. What Apple should really invent is a screen that defrosts or defogs :)
This way we can touch all we want!!

:)

[strachanjm]

Then why did you buy the iPhone?

Because about 4 years ago I sold my soul to apple. Oh, and because its not a laptop, so I don't mind touching its screen. Can you imagine how obnoxious it would be to be typing on the keyboard and then have to reach up and point at the screen and then rest your hands back on the keyboard. Nope. Not for me. But sure, compare it to an iPhone all you want.

[fireghost]

It's funny how some of you fantasise about the MBP multi-touch. Seriously, if Apple would be producing such a device they'd have to include quite some changes in the OS AND within the hardware. My opinion is that such a change wouldn't be revealed during a short Apple-Store-Downtime. It'd be a huge- advertised- event.
A multi touch trackpad, however, is nothing new to Apple. They won't show of woth the same technique twice- that's not Apple style.
So I agree with those users stating a multi touch-Macbook (Tablet-Mac) won't hit the market until 10.6.
Time Capsule wont be a reason either to shut down the store and the SDK will be announced by event, according to my experience with Apple.
It's probably going to be a MBP with Penryn & Multitouch since this is only a small update, no big change of design or major hardware changes.

[hlcsco]

I just returned my MB Air because I just couldn't make the space available on the hard drive work for me.

So, I was going to go out this weekend to buy a black Mac Book. A good friend of mine closely connected told me to wait until Tuesday. So, I'm guessing that it is an MB update on Tuesday that will be announced.

:D

[bj3949]

Because about 4 years ago I sold my soul to apple. Oh, and because its not a laptop, so I don't mind touching its screen. Can you imagine how obnoxious it would be to be typing on the keyboard and then have to reach up and point at the screen and then rest your hands back on the keyboard. Nope. Not for me. But sure, compare it to an iPhone all you want.

I'm just saying that we should also have the option to touch the actual screen if we wanted to. That's all.

[GUSTO]

I really do hope my wait is over this coming Tuesday! :apple:

[MrT8064]

I just returned my MB Air because I just couldn't make the space available on the hard drive work for me.

So, I was going to go out this weekend to buy a black Mac Book. A good friend of mine closely connected told me to wait until Tuesday. So, I'm guessing that it is an MB update on Tuesday that will be announced.

:D

is your friend a high up apple employee? or just somebody like us who says 'wait until tuesday out of habit'?

[bbyrdhouse]

Not really in the market for a new MBP but I am looking to get an iMac pretty soon. So a pre-mature iMac update would be welcome. ;)

[MacFly123]

How is it not practical or functional? The multi-touch keypad should DEFINITELY stay, but I'm just saying that the multi-touch screen should be there as an option. AS a user, you should be able to turn Multi-Touch screen ON/OFF as you choose. I just want the option to touch a bookmark in my Safari bookmark bar or touch a link on CNN.com or touch an app icon in the dock if I wanted to. Like iPhone heaven. That's all I'm saying. Wouldn't you?

Sure, but like I said. Apple is NOT implementing Multi-Touch that way. The touch screen will be in the new Newton. The laptops and desktops will ditch the keyboard and have a full Multi-Touch surface NOT on the screen, and this is after they ease us in with the MacBook Air style track pads in about 2 years when 10.6 comes out and they have it fully implemented into the OS. Look at the freaking signs people, can't you see their strategy???

[ungraphic]

Because about 4 years ago I sold my soul to apple. Oh, and because its not a laptop, so I don't mind touching its screen. Can you imagine how obnoxious it would be to be typing on the keyboard and then have to reach up and point at the screen and then rest your hands back on the keyboard. Nope. Not for me. But sure, compare it to an iPhone all you want.

That tactile laptop keyboard is far better, faster, and more accurate than a crappy onscreen touch keyboard.

[FUNK]

I just returned my MB Air because I just couldn't make the space available on the hard drive work for me.

So, I was going to go out this weekend to buy a black Mac Book. A good friend of mine closely connected told me to wait until Tuesday. So, I'm guessing that it is an MB update on Tuesday that will be announced.

:D

I wouldn't bet on it since it was JUST updated two months ago and the MBP is almost 100 days overdue.

[MacFly123]

Probably going to be Apple letting everyone know they've sold FCP to Adobe :mad:

Please can someone tell me what happened to Final Cut Server and the IOHD??? :(

[elcid]

Forget the MBPs, I want a new mac mini. Plus the longer they drag it out the more entertaining it is on the boards ;)

Plus if they do release new MBP all I get to read about for the following two weeks are the problems with it.

[MrT8064]

are we all pretty sure that WHEN (not saying it will be this tuesday) apple does update the MacBook, they will get rid of white plastic totally?

it would be kinda cool to go for Nano colors!

[bj3949]

Sure, but like I said. Apple is NOT implementing Multi-Touch that way. The touch screen will be in the new Newton. The laptops and desktops will ditch the keyboard and have a full Multi-Touch surface NOT on the screen, and this is after they ease us in with the MacBook Air style track pads in about 2 years when 10.6 comes out and they have it fully implemented into the OS. Look at the freaking signs people, can't you see their strategy???

I agree about the signs and the strategy. I'm just complaining about it. I actually agree with it all, however, I just wish they'd give us that additional option to touch our screen if we wanted to.

[strachanjm]

Steve didn't release the MacBook Pro's on Tuesday to see what would happen. What happened was ... People killed Arn.

[theddie]

when it comes to a multi-touch screen i think that apple will come out with a tablet style computer with a swivel screen and an optional use stylus. However I don't think it will come out for another 2 or 3 years.

[MacFly123]

pretty nice, are we assuming there is a thin layer of glass covering the glossy screen....

...if so, pro's wont like this!

No. Just the border, no glass. I realize that would be dumb.

[iMacDave]

I love that everyone keep suggesting that it is just the time capsule even though arn already said it was clearly not that.

I'm pro MB style keyboard, mag-latch

That is freakin' pretty! but I'd want the normal speakers on the side of the keyboard.

Best Buy has them (Time Capsules) advertised in their circulars in my neighborhood (probably all stores). I could be wrong but Steve is probably waiting to issue the MBP update as "one more thing" at the iPhone SDK release.

[MacFly123]

I love that everyone keep suggesting that it is just the time capsule even though arn already said it was clearly not that.

I'm pro MB style keyboard, mag-latch

That is freakin' pretty! but I'd want the normal speakers on the side of the keyboard.

LOL, good point. That one was a quick and dirty mock-up :)

[parapup]

Forget the MBPs, I want a new mac mini. Plus the longer they drag it out the more entertaining it is on the boards ;)


Agreed - A new SR based Mac Mini which can take 4GB RAM, have a better graphics card (X3100) and the ULV Core 2 processor and 7200 RPM HDD would indeed be sweet.

I love my Core duo Mac Mini so much sans the limited RAM and weaker processor.

[tamseven]

All that sounds very likely and exciting, and I agree with it; I'm just saying that we should also have the option to touch the actual screen if we wanted to.

Getting a bit hostile and defensive aren't we? People need to chill out! Also, what's with so many postings containing your same viewpoint?? We get it... you want to touch your screen, so touch it... touch it all you want! It just won't do anything, but you can touch your screen as much as your heart desires...

The way you give your iPhone a quick wipe down, you'd do that to your laptop.
Big deal. What Apple should really invent is a screen that defrosts or defogs :)
This way we can touch all we want!!

:)

Umm... when you touch something it doesn't fog up, it gets smudges from the oil your skin glads produce (unless you are one of the few % who don't leave finger prints because you don't produce said oil... lucky you), so defogging a screen would be dumb... i hear when they release the new notebook with touch screen it will come with a monkey housed inside (all squished up because it's going to be a teeny-tiny computer) with a squeegee so that any time there is a smudge on your screen it will come out and clean it for you! Wow that would be a swell computer wouldn't it? Come on steve please make that one next... ;)

[fireghost]

when it comes to a multi-touch screen i think that apple will come out with a tablet style computer with a swivel screen and an optional use stylus. However I don't think it will come out for another 2 or 3 years.

Do you honestly think Apple will go back to using a stylus? That would be like mankind going back carriages....

[MacFly123]

If there is a new MBP coming out, which I pray that there is, I hope it looks nothing like that. I think the keyboard on that image would be way too much like the MB keyboard and that it would totally destroy the effect of having a "Pro" notebook.
Well Apple thought it was good enough for the freakin' expensive MacBook Air, so I guess we will see.

[Flyer0815]

when it comes to a multi-touch screen i think that apple will come out with a tablet style computer with a swivel screen and an optional use stylus. However I don't think it will come out for another 2 or 3 years.

Thats an insane comment. After Steve publicly put the stylus in the coffin at the introduction of the iPhone by stating "bleck... who wants to use a stylus", you think they are going to introduce an advanced device that uses a stylus?

Multi-touch is the way of the future.... Multi-TOUCH... the stylus is dead.

[MacFly123]

Actually I try and make a habit of touching my screen as little as possible, so no.

One of my biggest pet peeves is when people get finger prints on my screen :mad:

[rols]

My guess is the iPhone SDK. Apple even announced it would be released at the end of Feb, and the reports that it is delayed aren't necessarily credible.

errr no, the iPhone SDK will be a download for developers, you probably won't even hear about it unless you have an ADC account.

[Peace]

How about 23",27" and 32" Cinema displays ?

[fireghost]

Thats an insane comment. After Steve publicly put the stylus in the coffin at the introduction of the iPhone by stating "bleck... who wants to use a stylus", you think they are going to introduce an advanced device that uses a stylus?

Multi-touch is the way of the future.... Multi-TOUCH... the stylus is dead.

Exactly... there is no need for Apple to reinvent the wheel- they are simlply going to fly :)

[psychofreak]

errr no, the iPhone SDK will be a download for developers, you probably won't even hear about it unless you have an ADC account.

There was speculation of a press conference including a detailed explanation of what the SDK capabilities were.

[bj3949]

Getting a bit hostile and defensive aren't we? People need to chill out! Also, what's with so many postings containing your same viewpoint?? We get it... you want to touch your screen, so touch it... touch it all you want! It just won't do anything, but you can touch your screen as much as your heart desires...



Umm... when you touch something it doesn't fog up, it gets smudges from the oil your skin glads produce (unless you are one of the few % who don't leave finger prints because you don't produce said oil... lucky you), so defogging a screen would be dumb... i hear when they release the new notebook with touch screen it will come with a monkey housed inside (all squished up because it's going to be a teeny-tiny computer) with a squeegee so that any time there is a smudge on your screen it will come out and clean it for you! Wow that would be a swell computer wouldn't it? Come on steve please make that one next... ;)

Talk about "hostile". Obviously, I meant touching your screen with multi-touch you shmuck.

[MacFly123]

I mean it's thick and old. Apple can definitely thin the thing out by now and make it lighter and it's time that they did. It's a great machine, but it's way overdue for a serious revision. And, Apple must be able to execute this by now.
That's all I'm saying.
Why don't you keep your MBP and I'll by the new and I'll buy the new & improved one?

LOL. Have you even seen a PC laptop??? Ya they are about 3 times as thick. The MacBook Pro is very thin and even Apple can't make it much thinner as long as it has a disc drive. Unless you want to give up a bunch of stuff, so just get a MacBook Air. And I will be getting the new one thanks. :)

[apple101]

Here we go again lol.

i think this would look cool, for the pro.

they should make the outside of the screen look like imacs front two tone (white, balck) the keyboard shell make that all black, make the keys them self white, with backlit. and the back all black with an illuninous apple logo.

and maybe where the usb eithernet cables r make that all white.
does anyone agree.

[ryannel2003]

Will God (Steve Jobs) finally grace us with a new MacBook Pro? Let's sure hope so, that way we won't get a slew of threads about people wanting to purchase new MBP's.

On the other hand, we'll then get another slew of threads with people hating something about the new MacBook Pro. Great.

[TopGear300]

YAY I hope this is true!!!

Thn the old macbook pros will drop in price and then even the PowerBooks will drop in price!!!!

Come on :apple:!!!1

[howiethemacguy]

I just got a MacBook Pro at the end of January. Oh well. It's a great machine... no regrets... Maybe :-P

[DukeSnyd]

Um, Time Capsule. Due data "February".

Wouldn't that be one product that could logically be expected to be out this coming week.

It's not jazzy or sexy -- but then again anything jazzy or sexy would have premiered at Macworld.

Just my .02

I think Mine is scheduled to be delivered March 6, if that helps you.

[bj3949]

One of my biggest pet peeves is when people get finger prints on my screen :mad:

No matter what anyone is saying in these forums, Apple will have a touchscreen laptop soon. They will figure out a way.

[MrT8064]

I just got a MacBook Pro at the end of January. Oh well. It's a great machine... no regrets... Maybe :-P

yeh, i suppose if you've already used it massively, and enjoy it, then you could say that first month was well worth it! Maybe

[Bobthemonkey]

Please can someone tell me what happened to Final Cut Server and the IOHD??? :(

FCS is MiA but at a guess it may reappear at around NAB 08 althogh Apple are no longer exhibiting. IOHD is on sale from AJA as its not an Apple product remember.

[tamseven]

Talk about "hostile". Obviously, I meant touching your screen with multi-touch you shmuck.

Haha.. oh did you? I'm sorry...:p

[yoman]

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I am in the market for a MBP. Fortunately I can wait. Not in a rush. However the child within me hopes for this Tuesday.

[MrT8064]

No matter what anyone is saying in these forums, Apple will have a touchscreen laptop soon. They will figure out a way.

yeh, a glass screen isnt a problem, just wipe them away... i found it very very annoying when people touched my softscreen

[fireghost]

i think this would look cool, for the pro.

they should make the outside of the screen look like imacs front two tone (white, balck) the keyboard shell make that all black, make the keys them self white, with backlit. and the back all black with an illuninous apple logo.

and maybe where the usb eithernet cables r make that all white.
does anyone agree.

That's too much colour for Apple. They tend to keep their products simple. However, I do agree with you that a MBP in the colour-scheme of an iMac would look interesting- similar to the image which was posted before. Except for the hideous MBA Keyboard-style...

[MacFly123]

All that sounds very likely and exciting, and I agree with it; I'm just saying that we should also have the option to touch the actual screen if we wanted to.

That is fine, but that option would cost a LOT of money and would not have all the tactile touch feedback that is in their patent for the touch surface.

[lazyrighteye]

AFAIK, the only hardware we are supposed to see by month's end is Time Capsule. Right?

[scubasteve3715]

omfg thank god. Im putting all my money on a mbp release and if it doesnt happen i will be crushed. but wait...maybe its the time capsul

[bj3949]

yeh, a glass screen isnt a problem, just wipe them away... i found it very very annoying when people touched my softscreen

Exactly. Thank you! A MULTI-TOUCH MACBOOK PRO WITH A MULTI-TOUCHABLE GLASS SCREEN. Easy to wipe off fingerprints.

[Jackal-Head]

Because they've got both feet firmly suck about 5 year behind. Case in point - combo drive on cheap MB and MM. Only once they've stopped shafting customers with that old p.o.s. can they move on and give their pro line ( supposedly the best platform for content creativity ) the optical drive it deserves.

Doug

Right... if Apple is putting a combo drive in their cheapest notebook, they're shafting customers with some old p.o.s., but if other vendors are selling notebooks in the same price range that have any or all of:


Pentium or Celeron processor
only 100mbps Ethernet
no digital video port
a crappy headphone port (e.g. hissing or twittering)
no IEEE 1394 aka FireWire at all, and even if, one without power pins


then it's business as usual. Not to mention the operating system. Even the Windows acolytes among my coworkers constantly complain about Vista, if they are using it at all.

[MacFly123]

The way you give your iPhone a quick wipe down, you'd do that to your laptop.
Big deal. What Apple should really invent is a screen that defrosts or defogs :)
This way we can touch all we want!!

:)

Touching your little phone and your entire computer screen is different. I don't care about my phone. My computer screen is my canvas of creation, it is like touching a painting, NO.

[bj3949]

That is fine, but that option would cost a LOT of money and would not have all the tactile touch feedback that is in their patent for the touch surface.

Ok, maybe...but if Apple came out with one, wouldn't you like the option to touch your (glass) screen on your laptop if you so desired??

[alecapple]

it would make sense, maybe we'll see the infamous 3g iPhone and the sdk along with the new mpb. An led screen would be nice.

[bj3949]

Touching your little phone and your entire computer screen is different. I don't care about my phone. My computer screen is my canvas of creation, it is like touching a painting, NO.

You can't seriously compare touching a painting and touching a glass screen.
You can wipe away the small fingerprints on a glass screen in a sec to look new again. On a painting? Yikes!

[MacFly123]

Because about 4 years ago I sold my soul to apple. Oh, and because its not a laptop, so I don't mind touching its screen. Can you imagine how obnoxious it would be to be typing on the keyboard and then have to reach up and point at the screen and then rest your hands back on the keyboard. Nope. Not for me. But sure, compare it to an iPhone all you want.

No kidding. It is totally different and not ideal, which is why Apple is NOT going to do it that way lol. You will have your Newton ok.

[MrT8064]

Touching your little phone and your entire computer screen is different. I don't care about my phone. My computer screen is my canvas of creation, it is like touching a painting, NO.

if your screen has a really solid coating, what is the problem with touching it?
i find it very useful when i am showing someone something, prodding the screen (iMac, glass) then when i am finished, i just wipe it off!

i suppose the only advantage an iPhone has is it kinda cleans its self when it is in the pocket!

[Stridder44]

That tactile laptop keyboard is far better, faster, and more accurate than a crappy onscreen touch keyboard.
But whatever, the MBA/MB/iMac keyboard WILL come to the MBP.

I'm calling it right here right now, some idiot will ignore this fact and when it happens they're going to be all surprised saying "OMG WHAT NO WAY I HATE U APPLE :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:"

[blimeyoriley]

hopefuly Time Capsule AND MBP

alot of people in the market for a time capsule will own a notebook, so it seems sensible to release them togther.

spent $2000, whats another $300 etc.

[bj3949]

No kidding. It is totally different and not ideal, which is why Apple is NOT going to do it that way lol. You will have your Newton ok.

Then do you think the touchscreen will be in the iMac first? The iMac Touch. I like the sound of that.

[EricVT]

I think the endless number of posts this guy has made regarding wanting to touch his screen has somehow gone even beyond whatever annoyance all of the MBP refresh threads have provided.

We get it, you want to touch your screen.

[bj3949]

if your screen has a really solid coating, what is the problem with touching it?
i find it very useful when i am showing someone something, prodding the screen (iMac, glass) then when i am finished, i just wipe it off!

i suppose the only advantage an iPhone has is it kinda cleans its self when it is in the pocket!

Exactly!!!!!! You tell 'em all buddy :)

[MrT8064]

hopefuly, Time Capsule AND MBP

alot of people in the market for a time capsule will own a notebook, so it seems sensible to release them togther.

spent $2000, whats another $300 etc.

I agree! Time Capsule is aimed at notebook customers, but then again, if apple is to keep up their 'every tuesday of 2008' pattern, they can't release more than one thing at once!

(yay! 500 posts!! MacRumors 6502 here i come!!)

[cloudnine]

I love that everyone keep suggesting that it is just the time capsule even though arn already said it was clearly not that.

I'm pro MB style keyboard, mag-latch

That is freakin' pretty! but I'd want the normal speakers on the side of the keyboard.

Hah. Arn hasn't stated why he thinks/knows that, so why believe him?

[DocSmitty]

I mean it's thick and old. Apple can definitely thin the thing out by now and make it lighter and it's time that they did. It's a great machine, but it's way overdue for a serious revision. And, Apple must be able to execute this by now.
...

Gotta love posts like this. I'm not sure why you think Apple can make the MBP any smaller than it is now, especially considering the heat issues that still exist in the current form factor.

They have access to the exact same technology as they have for the last year or two. HDD's have not gotten any smaller (unless you count the SLOW 1.8 drives), DVD drives have not gotten any smaller, the SR logic board isn't getting any smaller. Same size GPU, same size RAM, etc.

The *only* place to shrink the current MBP is possibly in the screen. The LED screens are slimmer than the older ones, slightly, with the MBA screen being a prime example. If the case gets revised, it will happen at or after Montevina's release, as that offers a potentially smaller package, and I suspect you won't see a whole new design even then.

[roland.g]

Nay I say "Here we go again". Let the waiters get to that waiting thing. Let the "well Montevina is right around the corner" folks start asking if this upgrade should be skipped. And let everyone go nuts at 8:30 am on Tuesday if updates have not arrived. Business as usual.

[tamseven]

I think the endless number of posts this guy has made regarding wanting to touch his screen has somehow gone even beyond whatever annoyance all of the MBP refresh threads have provided.

We get it, you want to touch your screen.

Amen brotha, preach it!! :D

[MacFly123]

I agree about the signs and the strategy. I'm just complaining about it. I actually agree with it all, however, I just wish they'd give us that additional option to touch our screen if we wanted to.

You are funny, you just won't give in lol. I've said what I need to.

[fireghost]

Wouldn't it make send to release Time Capsule after a new MBP? I mean- Time Capsule is made for Time Machine and without Time Machine, no Time Capsule.
(Eventhough every current 10.5 user can use Time Machine- there are heaps of us waiting for a new MBP and willing to spend a few bucks more on a nice backup solution)

[Abstract]

This is going to be a MBP redesign.

I'm just phoning my answer in now so that you can tell me how right I was. ;)

[bj3949]

Amen brotha, preach it!! :D

Alright. Alright. I've made my point. You're right. I'll stop now and go "touch" myself. Need a nap :)

-JackBook Touch

[MacFly123]

Thats an insane comment. After Steve publicly put the stylus in the coffin at the introduction of the iPhone by stating "bleck... who wants to use a stylus", you think they are going to introduce an advanced device that uses a stylus?

Multi-touch is the way of the future.... Multi-TOUCH... the stylus is dead.

I agree with you guys about the stylus being beyond dumb, but in his defense the Multi-Touch surface patent had several things about a stylus in it.

[strachanjm]

I agree! Time Capsule is aimed at notebook customers, but then again, if apple is to keep up their 'every tuesday of 2008' pattern, they can't release more than one thing at once!

(yay! 500 posts!! MacRumors 6502 here i come!!)

I don't think the issue is releasing something every tuesday, because Time Capsule has already been announced. I doubt their announcement this Tuesday would be, "Attention: Were finally shipping your crap!" I for one wouldn't count that as keeping up with their 'every tuesday of 2008' pattern. I'm not saying that Time Capsule is this week, or that Apple must hold to this 'every Tuesday' pattern. I'm just saying the fact that they are shipping Time Capsule doesn't seem to have anything to do with a Tuesday announcement.

[Astro8973]

this is great news! now people will shut up about their freakin mbp's. now bring me my sdk :D

[MacFly123]

How about 23",27" and 32" Cinema displays ?

Try 24 :)

[blimeyoriley]

there are heaps of us ... willing to spend a few bucks more on a nice backup solution)

exactly my point, release em together :D

[abijnk]

Hah. Arn hasn't stated why he thinks/knows that, so why believe him?

No offense, but you do know who Arn is right? In case you don't, Arn is the creator of the most well respected Apple rumors site. He's kind of well respected in this area...

[akadmon]

As much as I'm looking forward to the new MBPs, I think the shipment in question is most likely Time Capsule. TC was supposed to ship by the end of February, and it looks like it will, otherwise Apple would have announced a delay by now.

[puckhead193]

we shall see it could be that time capsule is now shipping

[cloudnine]

No offense, but you do know who Arn is right? In case you don't, Arn is the creator of the most well respected Apple rumors site. He's kind of well respected in this area...

Of course I know who he is, but just making a blanket statement doesn't constitute the truth. You do know George Bush, right? ;)

[MacFly123]

i think this would look cool, for the pro.

they should make the outside of the screen look like imacs front two tone (white, balck) the keyboard shell make that all black, make the keys them self white, with backlit. and the back all black with an illuninous apple logo.

and maybe where the usb eithernet cables r make that all white.
does anyone agree.

Haha so you want this in a laptop? No I don't agree, sorry :)

[apsterling]

same here... my inspiron 9100 is so fried, at this point the fans are louder than my car's engine.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let it be this week!

Oh God, I know what you mean! That's my Wintel machine, and it's louder than the Air-Purifier in my room.

[fireghost]

exactly my point, release em together :D

What about a 'special offer' - Buy a MBP and get a €10 Discount on Time Capsule :p

[Macmadant]

Exactly. Thank you! A MULTI-TOUCH MACBOOK PRO WITH A MULTI-TOUCHABLE GLASS SCREEN. Easy to wipe off fingerprints.

Do you have any idea how much a glass cover on the screen would increase the weight of the MBP

[MikeyC]

Why are people saying the MB / MBA keyboard WONT feature on the MBP as its not very Pro?

What keyboard does the Mac Pro ship with? Is it not the wired MB / MBA style keyboard?

It cant do as 'thats not very pro!' ;)

[MacFly123]

No matter what anyone is saying in these forums, Apple will have a touchscreen laptop soon. They will figure out a way.

No, I really don't think they will. A Newton, YES. I know they are all computers, but a folding laptop will have a the multi-touch surface not a touch screen. It is not practical at all.

[DaddyPhonk]

My new MBP turned up Friday, and I've been told that Apple will exchange it for an new model that is released within a month! It would be nice to know if this phantom MBP will ever turn up. or should I just send it back and wait?

[bj3949]

Do you have any idea how much a glass cover on the screen would increase the weight of the MBP

fine, then fiberglass or something. enough already.

[Jackal-Head]

I mean it's thick and old. Apple can definitely thin the thing out by now and make it lighter and it's time that they did.

Excellent idea. They could remove all the ports that currently prevent Apple from making the MBP any thinner, such as Ethernet and FireWire. They could then replace the DVI port by micro-DVI, toss the SuperDrive, shrink the screen, make the device much lighter and thinner, and call it, let's say "MacBook Air"...

[MacFly123]

FCS is MiA but at a guess it may reappear at around NAB 08 althogh Apple are no longer exhibiting. IOHD is on sale from AJA as its not an Apple product remember.

Thanks. I know the IO isn't Apple hardware. And that sucks about FCS. Anybody know what the problem is??? :( I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about people being pissed off about that. It just kind of disappeared.

[bj3949]

No, I really don't think they will. A Newton, YES. I know they are all computers, but a folding laptop will have a the multi-touch surface not a touch screen. It is not practical at all.

I think people will love the Newton so much that they will start longing for it for on their MacBooks. They should make a large Newton.

[fireghost]

Why are people saying the MB / MBA keyboard WONT feature on the MBP as its not very Pro?

What keyboard does the Mac Pro ship with? Is it not the wired MB / MBA style keyboard?

It cant do as 'thats not very pro!' ;)

In my experience the MB / MBA Keyboards are very much like the current Apple Keyboard. Thin buttons, very laptop-like whereas the MBP keyboard feels more like a professional office keyboard a la Logitech. If you'd close youre eyes you wouldn't notice you were typing on a laptop :)

[bj3949]

Excellent idea. They could remove all the ports that currently prevent Apple from making the MBP any thinner, such as Ethernet and FireWire. They could then replace the DVI port by micro-DVI, toss the SuperDrive, shrink the screen, make the device much lighter and thinner, and call it, let's say "MacBook Air"...

Sarcastic *******?? hello?? the LED screen is already thinner and available. believe me, they can improve what we have by now.

[MacFly123]

Right... if Apple is putting a combo drive in their cheapest notebook, they're shafting customers with some old p.o.s., but if other vendors are selling notebooks in the same price range that have any or all of:


Pentium or Celeron processor
only 100mbps Ethernet
no digital video port
a crappy headphone port (e.g. hissing or twittering)
no IEEE 1394 aka FireWire at all, and even if, one without power pins


then it's business as usual. Not to mention the operating system. Even the Windows acolytes among my coworkers constantly complain about Vista, if they are using it at all.

Except Apple's combo drive computer costs double the PC you described :rolleyes:

[apple101]

I dont see any benefit in an touchscreen computer. You can't get anything done faster nor can it do it for you. So what's the big reason to have a touchscreen computer.
and yes I have an iPod touch, and love it.

[Dustman]

Hopefully they'll update the Mini, which has to be worst rip-off i've ever seen in a computer. $649 CDN for something that doesn't even come with a keyboard and mouse, let alone a standard DVD burner?

For what it's worth, I just got a 2 Ghz Pentium Dual Core, 2 GBs ram and 19 inch LCD for $599 from Dell, and say what you want but its waay faster than a mini.

/end rant

[MacFly123]

Ok, maybe...but if Apple came out with one, wouldn't you like the option to touch your (glass) screen on your laptop if you so desired??

LOL. Actually, and honestly, NO. I would get the new Newton if I want that. What I want is the laptop with the Multi-Touch tactile surface.

[bj3949]

I dont see any benefit in an touchscreen computer. You can't get anything done faster nor can it do it for you. So what's the big reason to have a touchscreen computer.
and yes I have an iPod touch, and love it.

But what's wrong with having the option to? You know you'd use it sometimes. Your laptop is not always in your lap.

[Glueeater]

Am I the only one hoping for a carbon fiber case?

[/end ridiculous request]

[Tosser]

fine, then fiberglass or something. enough already.

haha, good luck saving weight with fibreglass. Also, you'd have a helluva lot of trouble actually using the screen (as you wouldn't be able to actually see it). :D


Am I the only one hoping for a carbon fiber case?

[/end ridiculous request]

They actually used a CF-frame in the tibook (under the white border).
CF is not that expensive – especially if made in sheets.

[bj3949]

LOL. Actually, and honestly, NO. I would get the new Newton if I want that. What I want is the laptop with the Multi-Touch tactile surface.

The laptop you want will be out this year. The laptop I want will be out in my dreams tonight :)

[Mr. Funsocks]

More New Apple Products... This Tuesday?

Hahahaha. That's like saying the sun will rise tomorrow. Way to go MR. Pick the safest news title possible.

[fireghost]

Hopefully they'll update the Mini, which has to be worst rip-off i've ever seen in a computer. $649 CDN for something that doesn't even come with a keyboard and mouse, let alone a standard DVD burner?

For what it's worth, I just got a 2 Ghz Pentium Dual Core, 2 GBs ram and 19 inch LCD for $599 from Dell, and say what you want but its waay faster than a mini.

/end rant

Don't forget about the OS you'll be getting from Dell ;)

[MikeyC]

In my experience the MB / MBA Keyboards are very much like the current Apple Keyboard. Thin buttons, very laptop-like whereas the MBP keyboard feels more like a professional office keyboard a la Logitech. If you'd close youre eyes you wouldn't notice you were typing on a laptop :)

I know what you are saying, but people are arguing that this style keyboard isnt very 'pro' - even tho the most 'pro' computer Apple builds (Mac Pro) comes with this style keyboard!

I'll bet that when the MBP gets a complete overhaul, the keyborad will be the same a the MB / MBA keyboard. They wont have a completely different style keyboard for 1 pro model, and not for another!

[mac-man 2008]

Possibly the new time capsules? I ordered one, and it said it would ship next week...

[MacFly123]

You can't seriously compare touching a painting and touching a glass screen.
You can wipe away the small fingerprints on a glass screen in a sec to look new again. On a painting? Yikes!

Ok glass yes. But a glass screen on a laptop is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Can you say cracks, and breaking??? It is NOT going to happen in an Apple Laptop. It will be the freaking Newton. Isn't that good enough for you??? lol. Have you even read what Apple is planning with all the alterable tactile feedback in the Multi-Touch surface they are patenting??? I would WAY rather have that than some impractical touch screen on a laptop with a keyboard any day!

[Jackal-Head]

Sarcastic *******?? hello?? the LED screen is already thinner and available. believe me, they can improve what we have by now.

And that would save like what, maybe one or one and a half millimeters? (0.04-0.06 inches for the metrically challenged.)

More importantly, it most likely wouldn't noticeably reduce weight.

[abijnk]

You do know George Bush, right? ;)

OH NO YOU DIDN"T!!!!! ;) :D

I get what you are saying. But to Arn's credit, I would consider him "well connected" and you've got to admit he's got a good track record...

[bj3949]

haha, good luck saving weight with fibreglass. Also, you'd have a helluva lot of trouble actually using the screen (as you wouldn't be able to actually see it). :D




They actually used a CF-frame in the tibook (under the white border).
CF is not that expensive – especially if made in sheets.

A glass-type material that weighs less than glass is all i meant.

[fireghost]

I know what you are saying, but people are arguing that this style keyboard isnt very 'pro' - even tho the most 'pro' computer Apple builds (Mac Pro) comes with this style keyboard!

I'll bet that when the MBP gets a complete overhaul, the keyborad will be the same a the MB / MBA keyboard. They wont have a completely different style keyboard for 1 pro model, and not for another!

Either way, it's just depend on what you are used to. So I guess you are right and Apple will indeed start using the very same keyboard.

[soldmachine]

What is taking Apple so long to integrate Blu-Ray across it's line?! For a company with computers focused on media, this is unacceptable in my book -- at least make it a BTO option!!!

Also, lack of 3/4G integrated wireless is just stupid in MacBook Pros, at least as a BTO option, not taking up any card slot!


You are so damn right! I mean every one knows now that blu ray won the game! So noone has to worry. Just put it in the new MBP.

[sighlent]

Apple is just barely starting to implement Multi-Touch with the MacBook Air. And even if they ever do make a Multi-Touch screen which I don't think they will for at least 3-5 years if at all then the OS has to support it. Small detail ;) What they are going to do is get rid of the keyboard and track pad and have that replaced with an entire touch surface which is NOT the screen. That will be in about 2 years when 10.6 comes and they have added all that into the OS.

If you want a touch screen then what you should be hoping for is the new Newton. That will be separate from the laptops.

I registered explicitly to say thank god someone here has a clue on multi-touch implementation (not a multi-touch trackpad that does gestural recognition, which is then translated into mouse/keyboard shortcuts).

It's a long time away people, those beautiful multi-touch implementations you see from people like Jeff Han etc are built on the software's understanding of multiple XY input interaction points. OS X hasn't even got a shred of that right now, let alone 3rd party software that has any capacity to understand that kind of input.

[bj3949]

And that would save like what, maybe one or one and a half millimeters? (0.04-0.06 inches for the metrically challenged.)

More importantly, it most likely wouldn't noticeably reduce weight.

Apple can definitely deliver a better MBP in every way by now and if you don't believe that then you're a moron.

[cloudnine]

OH NO YOU DIDN"T!!!!! ;) :D

I get what you are saying. But to Arn's credit, I would consider him "well connected" and you've got to admit he's got a good track record...

True, I just think that if he was completely sure that Time Capsule wasn't going to be released on time, the story on page 1 would be something more like "Time Capsule delayed due to..." instead of "There might be a product release this week, but we're not sure, if there is, it might be this or this, but we're not sure..."

Just seems like a slow day to me :)

[aiterum]

I hope they don't make the MBP any thinner than it is. Apple is starting to turn into anorexia