View Full Version : Apple Releases Penryn-Based MacBook Pros with Multitouch
Saladfingersz
Feb 29, 2008, 03:12 PM
I just ordered mine for $2600 including tax.
I just couldn't wait till June/July for the new (Montevino) update.
I wish the specs were better though..
like a 2.6ghz base model
quadcore option
higher L2 Cache memory
Higher 15" resolution
8GB memory capacity
etc. etc. wishful thinking..
ClimbingTheLog
Feb 29, 2008, 03:15 PM
I bought the 2.4 penryn tuesday and the CPU temp in iStat Pro is usually between 50-53C. Under heavy load, the highest I've seen it go is 68C.
My 2.16 C2D runs at very similar temps, so this is nice - 300MHz for 'free' in terms of heat.
mongoos150
Feb 29, 2008, 03:43 PM
I just ordered mine for $2600 including tax.
I just couldn't wait till June/July for the new (Montevino) update.
I wish the specs were better though..
like a 2.6ghz base model
quadcore option
higher L2 Cache memory
Higher 15" resolution
8GB memory capacity
etc. etc. wishful thinking.. I love how you put the Superdrive in your equipment sig - the same drive EVERYONE has had for several years :p
Saladfingersz
Feb 29, 2008, 05:34 PM
I love how you put the Superdrive in your equipment sig - the same drive EVERYONE has had for several years :p
hehe sorry im a newb :D
jjahshik32
Feb 29, 2008, 05:46 PM
The new penryn 2.4ghz model with the 256mb graphics card seems to be the best way to go but I wished that it had 6mb cache instead of the 3mb cache. But the 2.5ghz model jump do give you the 512mb vram on the graphics card but I see no benefit for the 512vram because of the 8600m gt cards only having a 128bit wide bandwidth, so the 256vram card would be the perfect fit.
chr1s60
Feb 29, 2008, 06:32 PM
Ordered the base 15/2.4 MBP this morning. It's pretty dumb that simply wanting the glossy screen pushes the order back. With expedited shipping my estimated delivery is March 5-10. Hopefully sooner than later.
tequeeza
Feb 29, 2008, 07:59 PM
Yeah, it sucks considering the fact that we could walk into an Apple Store and buy a glossy screen MBP. Since you can do that, it shouldn't be considered BTO but maybe it is b/c the new models were just released.
I just hope the shipment doesn't get delayed after March 3...I've seen it happen before.
good news! My order states that it is being prepared for shipment! Hope yours is too.
dwman
Feb 29, 2008, 10:56 PM
After not being too impressed with the upgrades, I ordered my first Mac from Amazon. Got the MBP 2.2 SR model for $1536 after mail-in-rebate. Even if the Montevina updates come out in 6-8 months, I could probably resell my MPB for near or more then the original price.
No plans to sell since I don't actually have it yet, but considering retail is $1999, I figured it wasn't worth paying the extra $500 for Penryn, multitouch, etc...If I'm really blown away with the new design/specs then I'll sell and get the new model and pay pretty much the same amount for a much better machine.
jjahshik32
Feb 29, 2008, 11:05 PM
Congrats on your purchase thats a great deal! You'll be surprised by how fast this machine is!
mshedd081
Mar 1, 2008, 12:56 AM
okay this is probably not what I think it is, but I see something different in a picture than what should be there.... its on the apple.com site under the macbook pro.. on the fifth picture to the right it is a MBP but it looks like the case is black with blue keyboard lights. Go to http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/design.html click on the right picture... does it not look like a silver mbp trimmed with a black keyboard and like black around the lcd? Even the lighted keyboard looks more blue than purple... hmm... maybe its too late for me.. mabye i am just seeing things..... dunnnooo
esamek
Mar 1, 2008, 01:10 AM
alright well first off, i purchased my macbook pro from the apple store on wednesday.
to the poster above questioning the macbook pro picture on the apple site..
no, its just shadowing that makes it look like its black and has a new keyboard, it doesnt.
anyway, i had a pro before this one, and the heat issue has seriously been address by apple. The amount of heat that comes off it when im rendering video with premiere pro is negligable.
my last pro got pretty hot. this one not at all. thats all i have to say.
I'm getting new MacBook Pro envy since the new models came out. Out of curiosity, how much did you sell your REV A MBP for? eBay?
Craigslist with a couple of throw-ins (I had an extra retail copy of Leopard and WinXP lying around) for $1450. Can't complain, it was a Rev A from March of 2006.
Asked my husband to pick me up a Penryn 15.4" 2.5 model on his way home from work and the funny guy brought home the 2.6/7200RPM instead :eek: .
A serious upgrade for me, that's for sure.
JT
Wolfpup
Mar 1, 2008, 10:07 AM
alright well first off, i purchased my macbook pro from the apple store on wednesday.
to the poster above questioning the macbook pro picture on the apple site..
no, its just shadowing that makes it look like its black and has a new keyboard, it doesnt.
anyway, i had a pro before this one, and the heat issue has seriously been address by apple. The amount of heat that comes off it when im rendering video with premiere pro is negligable.
my last pro got pretty hot. this one not at all. thats all i have to say.
What was your previous model? I guess all the previous MBPs would have had 65nm chips if I'm remembering right though.
Digital Skunk
Mar 1, 2008, 03:54 PM
okay this is probably not what I think it is, but I see something different in a picture than what should be there.... its on the apple.com site under the macbook pro.. on the fifth picture to the right it is a MBP but it looks like the case is black with blue keyboard lights. Go to http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/design.html click on the right picture... does it not look like a silver mbp trimmed with a black keyboard and like black around the lcd? Even the lighted keyboard looks more blue than purple... hmm... maybe its too late for me.. mabye i am just seeing things..... dunnnooo
That's surely the sleep depravation setting in. I a lot of us have bought, received and/or seen the current models and there isn't a black keyboard on any of them.
And not that you mentioned it, but I know many are thinking it.... there is NO gun metal MBP nor will there ever be one.
Krissanda
Mar 1, 2008, 04:29 PM
Just bought a 15-inch 2.4 GHz Macbook Pro.
Specs:
200GB HD
256MB VRAM
2GB RAM
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Accessory Kit
iWork '08 preinstalled
Aperture 2 preinstalled
Apple Remote (yes I paid the $19 for the stupid thing:p)
Extras:
Ipod shuffle 1GB Green (what's an extra fifty bucks when I'm paying this much for a computer? supplements my 16Gb Ipod Touch:D)
Canon PIXMA MP610 Printer ($100 rebate!)
SO.... I'm one happy camper right now. Been waiting FOREVER to buy this. Finally sold my old Dell. Now it just has to hurry up and get here!:apple:
pitseleh
Mar 1, 2008, 04:31 PM
Was yours BTO?
The only thing I changed on my 2.5Ghz model was for the glossy screen and that's considered BTO. Mine is still "not yet shipped."
Has anyone who ordered a BTO had theirs ship?
i ordered a 2.5 BTO on tuesday and it shipped on the 29th...its currently in alaska
HowEver
Mar 1, 2008, 04:41 PM
Toronto Apple Stores have these in store.
I bought the 2.5Ghz 15" two days ago, matte screen, will have 2 additional GB RAM installed. I was thinking about putting my external 250GB 7200 rpm laptop drive in at the same time, but the 5400 rpm in this computer is great already.
I've had a series of laptops, but this is the first laptop I can't use on full brightness. It's too bright.
harrison1000
Mar 1, 2008, 05:56 PM
Was yours BTO?
The only thing I changed on my 2.5Ghz model was for the glossy screen and that's considered BTO. Mine is still "not yet shipped."
Has anyone who ordered a BTO had theirs ship?
you will get a further message telling you your order has shipped, it will then take a further 5 or 6 day for delivery as it leaves Shanghai at the shipping point
harrison1000
Mar 1, 2008, 05:59 PM
Yeah, it sucks considering the fact that we could walk into an Apple Store and buy a glossy screen MBP. Since you can do that, it shouldn't be considered BTO but maybe it is b/c the new models were just released.
I just hope the shipment doesn't get delayed after March 3...I've seen it happen before.
don't worry you will get it between 10 - 12 the march
skiesforme
Mar 1, 2008, 09:45 PM
I am yet to test it with other networks. But not sure if its the router since my other 3 laptops work fine with this router - MB 2.2 GHz SR, IBM Thinkpad T41 and Samsung P30 (the fastest one on the internet) running windows and with a PCI 802.11g card.
As for the Aluminium enclosure, I doubt it because I have tested with the MBP being close to the router (5-10 feet) and also while being a room across from it.
In both cases Airport Menu icon shows 4 bars (occasionally 3) indicating excellent signal strength.
The Apple care guy suggested trying to add a new service(Airport) on Network Preferences to over-ride any changes I made and make use of default network parameters. Did not work !
Although, an interesting observation is when I initiate many applications requiring bandwidth (Speed Download, Web browsing, Streaming media from websites) the net downlink speed peaked up to 250 kbps (as seen in Activity Monitor: peak value for network throughput) but the average remains below 100 kbps for sure !
Would call up Apple Care today :(
After 2 days of tearing my hair apart trying to fix the wireless throughput issue on my New MBP, I went to the store and proved it to them with a side by side comparison - m MBP and an old Merom based MBP, using speakeasy.net/speedtest. It was at least 75% slower than what's expected !!
So I have a new (new) MBP with me now and very happy with the blazing wireless speed !!
All is well that ends well :D
Cheers !
sushi
Mar 1, 2008, 09:49 PM
i keep hearing people say...updates are per OP....whats OP?
Generally, references to OP mean the Original Poster in a particular thread.
jjahshik32
Mar 1, 2008, 10:37 PM
After 2 days of tearing my hair apart trying to fix the wireless throughput issue on my New MBP, I went to the store and proved it to them with a side by side comparison - m MBP and an old Merom based MBP, using speakeasy.net/speedtest. It was at least 75% slower than what's expected !!
So I have a new (new) MBP with me now and very happy with the blazing wireless speed !!
All is well that ends well :D
Cheers !
What is this throughput your talking about?.. was it your airport wireless card inside the new mbp that had a problem? Even ever since the first mbps that was released wireless downloaded and speed was blazing fast.
SalVac
Mar 2, 2008, 12:04 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH HHHHHHH break wall, break computer, throw the TV control, punch myself, bang my head on the wall, eat all my finger nail, yell at my neighbor, drive 100miles to work, eat 10 cups of coffee/hour, download every antivirus software possible, and every other horrible thing you can imagine.... That was my life when I was using a PC. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I have NOTHING but bad experience with PC, but I am hoping to be saved from the PC hell when I get my new MBP this Wednesday. I fell like I will be reborn, which I am sort of. I will be in a more happy world, the mac world. Sorry if i sound stupid and childish, but I blame it all on the F*^(*&ing PC. I HATTTTEEEEEEE THAT MO7jdjk;ajksdh;lkakjs. I will drive my car over my PC (which by the way it should stand for Piece of Crap!) when I get my mac or better yet I will burn it muahahahahaha.....see what PC has created. Me, a monster.:mad:
teknikal90
Mar 2, 2008, 12:58 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH HHHHHHH break wall, break computer, throw the TV control, punch myself, bang my head on the wall, eat all my finger nail, yell at my neighbor, drive 100miles to work, eat 10 cups of coffee/hour, download every antivirus software possible, and every other horrible thing you can imagine.... That was my life when I was using a PC. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I have NOTHING but bad experience with PC, but I am hoping to be saved from the PC hell when I get my new MBP this Wednesday. I fell like I will be reborn, which I am sort of. I will be in a more happy world, the mac world. Sorry if i sound stupid and childish, but I blame it all on the F*^(*&ing PC. I HATTTTEEEEEEE THAT MO7jdjk;ajksdh;lkakjs. I will drive my car over my PC (which by the way it should stand for Piece of Crap!) when I get my mac or better yet I will burn it muahahahahaha.....see what PC has created. Me, a monster.:mad:
ive got a pc...built it myself.never blue screened.beein using it for the past 2 years.and i didnt use top of the line stuff...pentium d 940 3.2ghz,not core 2 duo...1gb ram,not 2gb or 4gb....intel 965 chipset...gefore 7600gt..200gb HDD....WINDOWS XP.......but, it works,well.
i think if you maintain a pc properly itll work properly.once you treat it harshly,then itll be harsh back.
jjahshik32
Mar 2, 2008, 01:31 AM
ive got a pc...built it myself.never blue screened.beein using it for the past 2 years.and i didnt use top of the line stuff...pentium d 940 3.2ghz,not core 2 duo...1gb ram,not 2gb or 4gb....intel 965 chipset...gefore 7600gt..200gb HDD....WINDOWS XP.......but, it works,well.
i think if you maintain a pc properly itll work properly.once you treat it harshly,then itll be harsh back.
Pc's will get the job done but just not the way I want it to. I've used a pc for 15+ years and I've only had 3 virus but the last 8 years I havnt had a virus. All you have to do is just use mozilla and dont download warez or pr0n.
I've switched to macs just 3 years ago with a powerbook g4 17" last rev.
billysea
Mar 2, 2008, 02:28 AM
With all the people saying Mac won't get virus, is it true?
Does it have to do with OSX, or will I still get virus if you use Window in Bootcamp?
padré
Mar 2, 2008, 05:24 AM
about the virusses:
hackers don't make virusses for us mac os X users since we are a relative small group.
if u are using xp with bootcamp u'll still get virusses
contractcooker
Mar 2, 2008, 08:34 AM
I'm amazed at the mouth-foaming for a minor speed bump. This is a laptop that hasn't been updated in some time, features the same trackpad as before despite addition of the Multitouch features, the same low resolution screen on the 15.4" model etc etc.
The trackpad is a case in point. I'm assuming the MacBook Air got a physically larger trackpad for a reason - to make better use of Multi-touch features - so why should buyers/users of Apple's most expensive laptop have to put up with a smaller, older piece of technology? At this kind of money?? Only the naive would see this as anything other than a fudge; a real gimmick.
It has negatives because it's expensive. You can pick up laptops with better specs for less. With the advent of hacked Mac OS running on PC hardware, perhaps its time Apple dropped the snobbishness and made their updates a bit more worthwhile.
My own personal gripe is that the 15.4" model has the laughably low screen resolution of 1440x900. For a laptop aimed at 'professionals' like myself it's a joke for Photoshop and other apps that have many palettes open at once. It also has the feeling of slipping well behind in terms of technolocy, and the best use of the technology. To put this in perspective you can get 15.4" laptops with 1920x1200 resolutions. A bit much for me, but the trend is very much about upping the working dpi, a trend seemingly lost on Apple.
Given the fanfair for the MacBook AirToy, it's hard to believe all their Pro users get is a speed bump. Where's the magic Apple?
Alright, So 1440x900 isn't the best but seriously when you take this computer as a complete package you need to seriously back the **** off. The MBP can take on any competition in similar price ranges. The thing about the MBP is that it's not the best at everything. It's not the best resolution, it's not the best graphics card, It's not the best processor, it's not the best of anything but whne you take it as a whole, and when you take into consideratinon it's capability for certain specific tasks (video, audio, and other creative tasks.) There is nothing that can best the MBP. don't get me wrong. My mac crashes multiple times a day. Just like my PC but when it comes down to it I enjoy working on , and get much more done on my mac. These machines are amazing. They basically function the way they ought and they have unparalleled technical support. I hate all the whiners that complain about not enough upgrades. Just ****ing deal with it. If you don't like what you see just don't ****ing buy apple. Look around and see if there's anything better out there. And btw, I'll welcome you back with open arms once you realize that nothing beats apple for certain creative tasks.
Digital Skunk
Mar 2, 2008, 09:00 AM
about the virusses:
hackers don't make virusses for us mac os X users since we are a relative small group.
if u are using xp with bootcamp u'll still get virusses
The funny things is that both the concept of Mac users not getting viruses because we are a small market, and that XP and Windows in general gets SO many viruses are both large myths.
Hackers have a lot to gain by creating a malicious virus for the Mac but they just can't. If I were a hacker and wanted notoriety or brownie points for shutting the arrogant Mac users up about their security then I would take it. And as for Windows, there are plenty of users even on this forum that haven't once had a virus issue with various flavors of Windows and they didn't use any anti-virus software.
p.s. but you are right about getting viruses on the bootcamp partition of your Mac with Windows installed.
mongoos150
Mar 2, 2008, 11:44 AM
If Apple rises the dpi on screens, they have to find a way to keep their OS usable. Do the math: You currently have 900 vertical lines. If you go to 1050 vertical lines, this means, that appr. 14% of your menu bar size will be lost (i.e. smaller, less readable, smaller icons). Same applies to any Application button, icons and so on. Have you seen XP on an old screen lately? I can tell you, it's looking rather funny with those big buttons in 1024x768 (the res I use for Parallels).
All resolutions are adjustable. I personally love having my resolution set to max settings - I can fit more information on the screen. Should those of us with good eyesight be forced to suffer lower resolution because a size 14 font will look "embarrassingly small?" I think not. Compared to the HD display on the 17" MBP, icon resolution on the 15" MBP looks "embarrassingly large."
chr1s60
Mar 2, 2008, 01:13 PM
My MBP I ordered on Friday has been updated from "Not Yet Shipped," to "Prepared for Shipping!" Hopefully it will ship out in the morning. Anyone that ordered theirs late in the week have it ship yet?
Koolio27
Mar 2, 2008, 02:01 PM
i ordered a 2.5 BTO on tuesday and it shipped on the 29th...its currently in alaska
Thanks for answering my question.
I just got the shipment notification yesterday March 1 and I should be receiving it mid-week. :)
jonchong85
Mar 2, 2008, 02:14 PM
My MBP I ordered on Friday has been updated from "Not Yet Shipped," to "Prepared for Shipping!" Hopefully it will ship out in the morning. Anyone that ordered theirs late in the week have it ship yet?
Mine shipped this morning!! My time Capsule will be here tomorrow!!
jcgnu
Mar 2, 2008, 02:33 PM
My MBP I ordered on Friday has been updated from "Not Yet Shipped," to "Prepared for Shipping!" Hopefully it will ship out in the morning. Anyone that ordered theirs late in the week have it ship yet?
I ordered mine on Tuesday and still appears as "Not yet shipped" :mad: What were the original dates for yours to be shipped?? Mine says March 6-11 and should arrive on March 10-18. Almost a month after I ordered (and payed) for it!!!! It sucks, I'm never buying on the Store Online again...
Wolfpup
Mar 2, 2008, 03:06 PM
Pc's will get the job done but just not the way I want it to. I've used a pc for 15+ years and I've only had 3 virus but the last 8 years I havnt had a virus. All you have to do is just use mozilla and dont download warez or pr0n.
I've switched to macs just 3 years ago with a powerbook g4 17" last rev.
ive got a pc...built it myself.never blue screened.beein using it for the past 2 years.and i didnt use top of the line stuff...pentium d 940 3.2ghz,not core 2 duo...1gb ram,not 2gb or 4gb....intel 965 chipset...gefore 7600gt..200gb HDD....WINDOWS XP.......but, it works,well.
i think if you maintain a pc properly itll work properly.once you treat it harshly,then itll be harsh back.
Yeah, my Windows PCs are all fine too (great actually). This is sacrilegious, but I like Window's font rendering WAAAAAAY better and overall like the OS better, except for all the DRM on Windows and so many Windows programs (although some Mac programs too :( )
My big problem with the MBP though is mainly just the lack of an officially user replaceable hard drive. I will not send in used drive for service, and don't want to have to run some kind of full drive encryption just in case I need service.
FUNK
Mar 2, 2008, 03:09 PM
My BTO MBP was ordered tuesday and is in TN right now. There was a problem redeeming my iphone store credit and I raised some fuss so they upgraded the shipping to 2-3day for free :)
I'm expecting it on Tuesday.
chr1s60
Mar 2, 2008, 03:12 PM
I ordered mine on Tuesday and still appears as "Not yet shipped" :mad: What were the original dates for yours to be shipped?? Mine says March 6-11 and should arrive on March 10-18. Almost a month after I ordered (and payed) for it!!!! It sucks, I'm never buying on the Store Online again...
I got expedited shipping and my estimated shipping dates were March 3-5. Did you make any modifications to yours or get the 17" model? I've heard the 17" takes longer to ship and the more mods the longer til they ship. The only thing I changed in mine was the screen to glossy.
jcgnu
Mar 2, 2008, 03:32 PM
I got expedited shipping and my estimated shipping dates were March 3-5. Did you make any modifications to yours or get the 17" model? I've heard the 17" takes longer to ship and the more mods the longer til they ship. The only thing I changed in mine was the screen to glossy.
It's de 15'' with 2.4 GHz. Only changes were glossy screen and 250 GB HDD. It shouldn't take that long.. It really sucks that I payed for it last tuesday and I'll be getting it 3 weeks later! My current computer is really dying, and I've been having to use a borrowed one this whole time. The problem is, I need my new computer because I use a lot of technical software that I cannot install on this machine. Anyway, I'll keep on waiting (do I have another option?) but I'm sure that next time I'll buy from a retailer and get my computer the moment I pay for it. If Apple is gonna take a month to deliver, they should at least let me pay a month later! (of course it's not gonna happen and it would be unpractical, but it's still unfair)
FUNK
Mar 2, 2008, 03:44 PM
I got expedited shipping and my estimated shipping dates were March 3-5. Did you make any modifications to yours or get the 17" model? I've heard the 17" takes longer to ship and the more mods the longer til they ship. The only thing I changed in mine was the screen to glossy.
I got the 2.6 15" with glossy screen.
swagi
Mar 2, 2008, 04:14 PM
All resolutions are adjustable. I personally love having my resolution set to max settings - I can fit more information on the screen. Should those of us with good eyesight be forced to suffer lower resolution because a size 14 font will look "embarrassingly small?" I think not. Compared to the HD display on the 17" MBP, icon resolution on the 15" MBP looks "embarrassingly large."
I'll take your point. Honestly I don't know that much about changing res in OS X, as I never used it. But honestly, we both don't have a choice. Apple chooses for us. That's why you only have the blue and the graphite option, like it or not.
That's why I tended to use ShapeShifter for some time, as I thought that my Mac looked wicked with Papyrus as System font (though it sometimes wasn't really redable).
Fact is, that Apple chooses for us. And they obviously chose to skip the high resolution 15" screens until resolution independence is ready. Talking about information on the screen: you are currently able to use up to 16 screens with Spaces, IIRC. That way it's really more usable than having several application windows open on one screen. When I use GoLive CS2, I fail to see how I could use those windows with an even smaller font.
Actual screenshot attached for illustration purposes...
macgroovy
Mar 2, 2008, 04:19 PM
anyway, i had a pro before this one, and the heat issue has seriously been address by apple. The amount of heat that comes off it when im rendering video with premiere pro is negligable.
my last pro got pretty hot. this one not at all. thats all i have to say.
That's good news that people are saying the new MBP's have cooled down.. I ordered mine last week and that was the one unknown for me when I ordered it. You could fry an egg on the old machines!
FUNK
Mar 2, 2008, 04:38 PM
You could fry an egg on the old machines!
That is a true story. I'm glad they have cooled off....I can't wait for tuesday, I keep refreshing the fedex tracker every five seconds...I think I'm going to cause a DOS crash on the fedex site and no one will be able to track packages :D
chr1s60
Mar 2, 2008, 04:45 PM
I am guessing Apple is just all messed up on shipping. They probably didn't expect to get as many orders as they did right away. Other than BTO mods there isn't an obvious reason for the delays. I will probably go to the Apple store for my next mac purchase.
jcgnu
Mar 2, 2008, 05:17 PM
I am guessing Apple is just all messed up on shipping. They probably didn't expect to get as many orders as they did right away. Other than BTO mods there isn't an obvious reason for the delays. I will probably go to the Apple store for my next mac purchase.
Yeah, shopping online is supposed to be convenient since you can do it at home and have the package delivered to you. Instead, it turned out to be a bad experience to me. I'm getting my computer almost a month after I bought it! Unfortunatedly we don't have physical Apple Stores here (yet! ;) ) but next time I'll buy it somewhere else.
timimbo85
Mar 2, 2008, 06:23 PM
i ordered mine it got released and got it 3 days later. I didn't even get any special shipping. So that was china to chicago pretty damn fast. Its a great machine!
OldCorpse
Mar 2, 2008, 06:46 PM
Meh. This really was underwhelming. I'm still on an iBook from 2005 (12", 1.33Ghz). I'll upgrade to the MB, once they get:
1)LED screen
2)6 hour battery life
3)Weighs around 4lb or less
4)Has 3 USB
5)Larger trackpad
6)Redesigned case (to take off the razor sharp edges where the wrists rest).
Perhaps I'll be waiting a long time... who knows. Maybe it'll be 2010 by then and OS X 10.6... I'm not jazzed by Leopard anyway, so 10.6 can't come too soon for me.
As for this update: PASS.
So I can wait on the portable. For desktop performance, unfortunately I'll need to get an iMac pretty soon (since it doesn't look like Apple will do a mid-tower).
Since I need a
macgroovy
Mar 2, 2008, 08:06 PM
Ordered the base 15/2.4 MBP this morning. It's pretty dumb that simply wanting the glossy screen pushes the order back. With expedited shipping my estimated delivery is March 5-10. Hopefully sooner than later.
I found that my shipping time doubled from the norm because adding the remote apparently makes it a 'custom' order. I would have thought they could just chuck a remote in at a local depot.
Wolfpup
Mar 2, 2008, 08:50 PM
I really wish they had left the remote as standard, and I hope this dosen't mean it'll be phased out.
I thought it was neat that most of Apple's computers shipped with a standard remote and had that Front Row interface. (And I guess ElGato's software is good enough now to be used as a full blown DVR, and also supports that remote.)
chr1s60
Mar 2, 2008, 09:06 PM
I found that my shipping time doubled from the norm because adding the remote apparently makes it a 'custom' order. I would have thought they could just chuck a remote in at a local depot.
It seems like Apple is considering any change to the computer or accessories as a custom order. That seems pretty stupid to me, but this may change as the number of new configured MBP's increases. I am guessing most of these issues are because it was just introduced and there are still somewhat limited supplies.
Also, $15 for 2-3 day shipping seems kind of high. I have ordered things online with next day air that costed $15 and that includes other electronics.
kenners
Mar 3, 2008, 05:42 AM
My MBP I ordered on Friday has been updated from "Not Yet Shipped," to "Prepared for Shipping!" Hopefully it will ship out in the morning. Anyone that ordered theirs late in the week have it ship yet?
Ordered a 2.6 with 7200rpm with matte screen on Feb 26, it left Shanghai 3-1, arrived Anchorage 1:27 pm 3-1, left Anchorage 3-2 @ 12:00 am, arrived Memphis 12:39 pm, departed Memphis 4:02 pm and is "In transit" for the past 16 hours ? due at Wa State prior to Wed 10:30 am
Acuity Mac Guru
Mar 3, 2008, 04:55 PM
Just got my new MacBook Pro
2.6G
4G RAM
200G 7200RPM Drive
15" Screen
Very sweet, Multi-touch is nice.
Arrived 2 days early, was suppose to be here Wen by 10:30 and it got here today.
chr1s60
Mar 3, 2008, 05:29 PM
Just got my new MacBook Pro
2.6G
4G RAM
200G 7200RPM Drive
15" Screen
Very sweet, Multi-touch is nice.
Arrived 2 days early, was suppose to be here Wen by 10:30 and it got here today.
Nice. When did you order yours? I got an email last night saying mine had shipped, but so far all the tracking shows is the data transmitted.
kenners
Mar 3, 2008, 05:36 PM
Ordered a 2.6 with 7200rpm with matte screen on Feb 26, it left Shanghai 3-1, arrived Anchorage 1:27 pm 3-1, left Anchorage 3-2 @ 12:00 am, arrived Memphis 12:39 pm, departed Memphis 4:02 pm and is "In transit" for the past 16 hours ? due at Wa State prior to Wed 10:30 am
It arrived today before 10:30 am PST, roughly 1 to 2 days early, even thinking about opening it :-)
skiesforme
Mar 3, 2008, 05:38 PM
What is this throughput your talking about?.. was it your airport wireless card inside the new mbp that had a problem? Even ever since the first mbps that was released wireless downloaded and speed was blazing fast.
Yes the airport card inside the new MBP was defective. It won't give me "browsable" throughput forget about streaming multimedia on the web. Now since I got a replacement I am happy with blazing fast speeds !! Yohoooooooooooo :apple:
devman
Mar 3, 2008, 11:11 PM
Every window in OS X is a texture (assuming Quartz Extreme). More VRAM means more open windows can be stored in the video card's VRAM and not have to be "loaded" whenever they become visible.
(Brutally simple explanation, I know, but it gets the point across.)
you're right it is too simple.
A cocoa drawing app (for example) that simply does NS or CG drawing into a view is one thing.
A cocoa drawing app that makes use of CALayers and uses multiple of them for things like - well, layers! and animated layout previews, etc. etc. is entirely another matter regarding textures.
Koolio27
Mar 4, 2008, 11:57 AM
Just got my MBP 2.5Ghz from FedEx this morning, which was 1 day earlier than the expected arrival date!! All in all, it was shipped from Shanghai on March 1 and got to MA on March 3.
Man, I'm so psyched since I've waited over 1 year to upgrade from my Powerbook G4.
chr1s60
Mar 4, 2008, 01:46 PM
I am kind of mad, my estimated arrival is 4 days of shipping even though I paid for expedited 2-3 day shipping. Some people seem to have been getting theirs ahead of schedule, so I think I will wait before I contact Apple wanting a refund for my $15.
Norris3eb
Mar 4, 2008, 02:10 PM
I ordered my MBP on Friday (leap day) as well. The website told me 7-10 days ship. I purchased through Guitar Center, though (great financing options).
I did the BTO...
17", 2.5Ghz, HD 1920x1200 Matte, and 2GB RAM (Went to Fry's, and picked up 4GB of AData Ram for $74.00)
Are the estimates on the website typically reliable? Or do the laptops come in relatively quick?
harrison1000
Mar 5, 2008, 01:29 AM
Just got my MBP 2.5Ghz from FedEx this morning, which was 1 day earlier than the expected arrival date!! All in all, it was shipped from Shanghai on March 1 and got to MA on March 3.
Man, I'm so psyched since I've waited over 1 year to upgrade from my Powerbook G4.
You Lucky B... I ordered mine last week and just got a despathed email from Apple but I just called them yesterday to ask why after being shipped would It take 8 days to arrive in Scotland. thay gave me the bad news :mad: it should take about 4 days from Shanghai but the lorry has been involved in a accident which will delay my order, no other info at the moment, If this happens, normally the goods are transfered to another vehicle which delays goods by one day but I guessing here that some damage has occured. was hoping to have a play with my new toy over the weekend, looks like that idea is scuppered for another week :(
skorpien
Mar 5, 2008, 10:35 AM
Mine just shipped today and expected to be here March 10th! Great news considering expected ship date was Mar. 6-11 with estimated arrival date being around Mar. 24. Can't wait... Been longing to be Windows free for a couple of years now.
BornToMac
Mar 5, 2008, 12:20 PM
Thank You Jesus
Ouch. Have they always charged you for the Apple remote? Because they do now. $19.
yes but now you get a schnazzy cloth to clean the screen w/!!!:)
mactastic1971
Mar 5, 2008, 12:21 PM
I am kind of mad, my estimated arrival is 4 days of shipping even though I paid for expedited 2-3 day shipping. Some people seem to have been getting theirs ahead of schedule, so I think I will wait before I contact Apple wanting a refund for my $15.
Its 2-3 business days shipping.
If it shipped on Friday and is arriving on Tuesday - even though thats 5 days inclusive, its only 3 days shipping.
TimeWaster101
Mar 5, 2008, 12:39 PM
Blast this is a hard decision for me:
A. I could get the current MBP in a month by my birthday and have it to use ALL summer! I still love the current design.
B. Wait for the next model. What if I don't like the new design. But maybe it'll be better looking? But I don't really want an air styled design. I like the curved rectangle look of the MBPs and MBs. However, regardless of how amazing the new design may look, what about all the issues there could be. The last thing I want to do is be fixing my computer all the time in college.
I really don't think I personally will notice a performance update with Montevina and I don't think the specs will change much. People keep saying it will be thinner, but here's why I disagree:
1. Mac laptops already have heating issues. Make the thing any smaller and it'll overheat (BAD!).
2. The nvidia 8600M is about the best that can fit and the 8800M is larger and creates more heat. Apple needs to future proof itself. If they get too ahead of themselves and make every thing super thin, there will be no room for extra features. Its better to have more space for extra features, than make an already very thin laptop thinner. Honestly, anyone who thinks 1" is too thick needs to take a shopping trip through the PC isle and compare.
3. if they make it thinner, it may resemble the Air's style (all curvy and such). While the air looks amazing, on a larger laptop, all the weird curves make not look right and may make the computer look too complicated and I associate Apple's design with simple. Simple usually is better. What is it I hate about the look of every PC laptop? All the stuff. Too many designs, to busy, and too clunky. I love that when you close a MB or MBP the whole thing is symetric and smooth. Also I'd rather have a solid laptop than one that resembles a wedge from the side (slopes from 1" to .5" or something)
But its a hard decision. I don't want to buy now then see the new one and wish I'd waited. Yet if the new is nothing special, I'll wish I'd bought already.
PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR 2 CENTS!!!! Also does anyone have evidence for a redesign this summer. What if they wait until Nahelem. or will Nahelem premier on the Montevina Platform. Also this mumbo jumbo of the Air raising the bar for Apple's designs. HOW? THe air is a bare minimum computer. You can't create a notebook like the Air and fit the Pro's specs. So what of the air besides keyboard, magnetic latch, and bigger trackpad would they put? Make it curvier?
chr1s60
Mar 5, 2008, 12:43 PM
Its 2-3 business days shipping.
If it shipped on Friday and is arriving on Tuesday - even though thats 5 days inclusive, its only 3 days shipping.
Mine actually arrived today even though it was scheduled to be delivered Friday. I was originally mad because it shipped monday and was scheduled to be here Friday.
diamond.g
Mar 5, 2008, 12:50 PM
Blast this is a hard decision for me:
A. I could get the current MBP in a month by my birthday and have it to use ALL summer! I still love the current design.
B. Wait for the next model. What if I don't like the new design. But maybe it'll be better looking? But I don't really want an air styled design. I like the curved rectangle look of the MBPs and MBs. However, regardless of how amazing the new design may look, what about all the issues there could be. The last thing I want to do is be fixing my computer all the time in college.
I really don't think I personally will notice a performance update with Montevina and I don't think the specs will change much. People keep saying it will be thinner, but here's why I disagree:
1. Mac laptops already have heating issues. Make the thing any smaller and it'll overheat (BAD!).
2. The nvidia 8600M is about the best that can fit and the 8800M is larger and creates more heat. Apple needs to future proof itself. If they get too ahead of themselves and make every thing super thin, there will be no room for extra features. Its better to have more space for extra features, than make an already very thin laptop thinner. Honestly, anyone who thinks 1" is too thick needs to take a shopping trip through the PC isle and compare.
3. if they make it thinner, it may resemble the Air's style (all curvy and such). While the air looks amazing, on a larger laptop, all the weird curves make not look right and may make the computer look too complicated and I associate Apple's design with simple. Simple usually is better. What is it I hate about the look of every PC laptop? All the stuff. Too many designs, to busy, and too clunky. I love that when you close a MB or MBP the whole thing is symetric and smooth. Also I'd rather have a solid laptop than one that resembles a wedge from the side (slopes from 1" to .5" or something)
But its a hard decision. I don't want to buy now then see the new one and wish I'd waited. Yet if the new is nothing special, I'll wish I'd bought already.
PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR 2 CENTS!!!! Also does anyone have evidence for a redesign this summer. What if they wait until Nahelem. or will Nahelem premier on the Montevina Platform. Also this mumbo jumbo of the Air raising the bar for Apple's designs. HOW? THe air is a bare minimum computer. You can't create a notebook like the Air and fit the Pro's specs. So what of the air besides keyboard, magnetic latch, and bigger trackpad would they put? Make it curvier?
Buy one now, then buy the new one and sell the one you buy now.
skorpien
Mar 5, 2008, 01:20 PM
Buy one now, then buy the new one and sell the one you buy now.
This is probably the best idea. Sure you might lose some money in the process, but you won't catch yourself wishing you had/hadn't waited. And if you don't like the design/specs of the new revision, then you could skip it altogether and keep the one you bought now.
PeterC-7
Mar 5, 2008, 01:55 PM
Blast this is a hard decision for me:
A. I could get the current MBP in a month by my birthday and have it to use ALL summer! I still love the current design.
B. Wait for the next model. What if I don't like the new design. But maybe it'll be better looking? But I don't really want an air styled design. I like the curved rectangle look of the MBPs and MBs. However, regardless of how amazing the new design may look, what about all the issues there could be. The last thing I want to do is be fixing my computer all the time in college.
I really don't think I personally will notice a performance update with Montevina and I don't think the specs will change much. People keep saying it will be thinner, but here's why I disagree:
1. Mac laptops already have heating issues. Make the thing any smaller and it'll overheat (BAD!).
2. The nvidia 8600M is about the best that can fit and the 8800M is larger and creates more heat. Apple needs to future proof itself. If they get too ahead of themselves and make every thing super thin, there will be no room for extra features. Its better to have more space for extra features, than make an already very thin laptop thinner. Honestly, anyone who thinks 1" is too thick needs to take a shopping trip through the PC isle and compare.
3. if they make it thinner, it may resemble the Air's style (all curvy and such). While the air looks amazing, on a larger laptop, all the weird curves make not look right and may make the computer look too complicated and I associate Apple's design with simple. Simple usually is better. What is it I hate about the look of every PC laptop? All the stuff. Too many designs, to busy, and too clunky. I love that when you close a MB or MBP the whole thing is symetric and smooth. Also I'd rather have a solid laptop than one that resembles a wedge from the side (slopes from 1" to .5" or something)
But its a hard decision. I don't want to buy now then see the new one and wish I'd waited. Yet if the new is nothing special, I'll wish I'd bought already.
PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR 2 CENTS!!!! Also does anyone have evidence for a redesign this summer. What if they wait until Nahelem. or will Nahelem premier on the Montevina Platform. Also this mumbo jumbo of the Air raising the bar for Apple's designs. HOW? THe air is a bare minimum computer. You can't create a notebook like the Air and fit the Pro's specs. So what of the air besides keyboard, magnetic latch, and bigger trackpad would they put? Make it curvier?
The height-limiting factor isn't the heat, but the ports on the outside and the drives on the inside: notably the optical drive. The optical drive is here to stay for a while with Blue-Ray, and everyone seems to have also forgotten about the likelihood of FireWire 3200 arriving with Blue-Ray, which means that the Firewire 2 port will stay. As well there is the ethernet port - the thickest one and wireless isn't ubiquitous enough or quite fast enough for a desktop replacement to ditch it. Add room for gentle curves and there's a limit to how thin you can make the bottom shell. So the base should shrink minimally, but get progressively cooler and more powerful.
Hence we should likely expect to see styling changes such as a bigger track-pad maybe and definitely button carbon keys to simplify the look across the line. Coloured anodizing is also a maybe. This is likely to coincide with the introduction of Centrino 2 (Montevina).
The top shell is different. It's the hook-housings that are now the only limit to making it thinner. And since the hooks are also a major gripe, it seems likely that a thin lid with a mag latch is a distinct possibility. The only thing against it would be how well a thin lid would balance the aesthetics of the overall design.
Nehalem will debut on Montevina just like Penryn has on Santa Rosa. That is the standard Intel roadmap: cross processor/platform release in January, new platform in June. Montevina will have more impact for integrated graphics than dedicated cards. Expect performance enhancements more from software like Q-Time being optimised for SSE-4.
My advice is to buy now and plan for the Nehalem platform change which will be significant after June 09. By that time we should be seeing quad-cores on a four socket board with point-to-point CPU architecture (like the G5) instead of a frontside bus. July/August 09 is a long wait, and buying later in 08 is simply going to make the 09 change too close for a sensible cost-replacement cycle.
But you have to make up your own mind and that's my two cents worth. Happy birthday and enjoy the summer.
TimeWaster101
Mar 5, 2008, 05:23 PM
The height-limiting factor isn't the heat, but the ports on the outside and the drives on the inside: notably the optical drive. The optical drive is here to stay for a while with Blue-Ray, and everyone seems to have also forgotten about the likelihood of FireWire 3200 arriving with Blue-Ray, which means that the Firewire 2 port will stay. As well there is the ethernet port - the thickest one and wireless isn't ubiquitous enough or quite fast enough for a desktop replacement to ditch it. Add room for gentle curves and there's a limit to how thin you can make the bottom shell. So the base should shrink minimally, but get progressively cooler and more powerful.
Hence we should likely expect to see styling changes such as a bigger track-pad maybe and definitely button carbon keys to simplify the look across the line. Coloured anodizing is also a maybe. This is likely to coincide with the introduction of Centrino 2 (Montevina).
The top shell is different. It's the hook-housings that are now the only limit to making it thinner. And since the hooks are also a major gripe, it seems likely that a thin lid with a mag latch is a distinct possibility. The only thing against it would be how well a thin lid would balance the aesthetics of the overall design.
Nehalem will debut on Montevina just like Penryn has on Santa Rosa. That is the standard Intel roadmap: cross processor/platform release in January, new platform in June. Montevina will have more impact for integrated graphics than dedicated cards. Expect performance enhancements more from software like Q-Time being optimised for SSE-4.
My advice is to buy now and plan for the Nehalem platform change which will be significant after June 09. By that time we should be seeing quad-cores on a four socket board with point-to-point CPU architecture (like the G5) instead of a frontside bus. July/August 09 is a long wait, and buying later in 08 is simply going to make the 09 change too close for a sensible cost-replacement cycle.
But you have to make up your own mind and that's my two cents worth. Happy birthday and enjoy the summer.
Hey thanks so much for your input. I'm leaning towards the current model. I'm sure I'll be happy with either and I really need to get on with my life (not spend quite so many hours on this forum).
ridehard
Mar 11, 2008, 03:50 PM
Orded my Mbp on the 29th/02, shipped 03March
And still not here !
Oh the waiting ...
Norris3eb
Mar 11, 2008, 11:07 PM
I ordered my MBP on Friday (leap day) as well. The website told me 7-10 days ship. I purchased through Guitar Center, though (great financing options).
I did the BTO...
17", 2.5Ghz, HD 1920x1200 Matte, and 2GB RAM (Went to Fry's, and picked up 4GB of AData Ram for $74.00)
Are the estimates on the website typically reliable? Or do the laptops come in relatively quick?
OK..SO I got my MBP. It wasn't the one I ordered, though. I debated on sending it back, but decided just to keep it. The HD Screen isn't worth it.
So, for now, here's what I got:
17" MBP, 2.5 Ghz, 512 VRAM, 4GB RAM (Frys, $74), matte 1680x1050 screen. It's a BITCHIN' Fast machine. Tops my Windows PC..
I absolutely love it.
Spag
Mar 15, 2008, 08:43 AM
I received an e-mail this morning informing me of an "unexpected delay" which has extended my shipping date... hmmm...
my order:
MBP, 2.6GHz, 17" Hi-Rez Matte finish, 200GB@7200, 2 GB RAM (4 GB upgrade received last week from Crucial)
I placed the order on the 6th of March.
catdog02481
Mar 15, 2008, 09:33 AM
I have been calling the local Apple Stores incessantly about the 17"MBP hi-def with led backlighting. No luck, everyone says they are about to arrive any moment but still nothing so it could be the delay is the result of difficulty with the screen or high demand. I have the prev. generation hi-def 17" which i love in matte but a looking for better brightness.
stevenfarrisohi
Mar 15, 2008, 12:02 PM
Upon reviewing the new MBP yesterday, I would have to agree that that MBP needs a bigger touchpad area. I have very skinny fingers and found myself unable to make some of the maneuvers.
Digital Skunk
Mar 15, 2008, 06:53 PM
Upon reviewing the new MBP yesterday, I would have to agree that that MBP needs a bigger touchpad area. I have very skinny fingers and found myself unable to make some of the maneuvers.
I have average fingers, kinda on large though, and I find the moves pretty easy to make. I agree that it needs to be larger, but it's not impossible to use MT on the smaller trackpad.
happylau
Mar 15, 2008, 07:21 PM
Well, I received my first Mac 2 days ago, a Macbook Pro 2.4, 2GB RAM, 200GB HDD 5400rpm, matte screen, spanish keyboard. It came one day earlier, luckily I checked the tracking info on time! It took 2 days to ship and 2 days to get to Boston with standard shipping.
First of all I'm now proud to say I've tried both Mac and Windows and absolutely adore the Mac experience. The software is so useful and nice :)
The screen is very very nice, matte is perfect for me because glossy used to give me a little bit of headache. The programs are easy to install and always work. The cameras and phones I've connected are detected and work perfectly so I really must say Mac has won a faithful customer.
The only problem I have is with Excel 2008 (ha...) because when I open certain sheets and click the + green button, Excel crashed and I can only press the power button and restart the computer... I've read many people have this problem.. Hope they fix it soon.
I absolutely love the trackpad, very very useful. I used to hate trackpads and always use a mouse 'til now!
I'm also thinking about buying 4GB of RAM from crucial or newegg (I think it's 78$) which would also be a major improvement, specially for running MatLab :)
Well, that's all, just happy :)
TimeWaster101
Mar 16, 2008, 12:44 AM
Well, I received my first Mac 2 days ago, a Macbook Pro 2.4, 2GB RAM, 200GB HDD 5400rpm, matte screen, spanish keyboard. It came one day earlier, luckily I checked the tracking info on time! It took 2 days to ship and 2 days to get to Boston with standard shipping.
First of all I'm now proud to say I've tried both Mac and Windows and absolutely adore the Mac experience. The software is so useful and nice :)
The screen is very very nice, matte is perfect for me because glossy used to give me a little bit of headache. The programs are easy to install and always work. The cameras and phones I've connected are detected and work perfectly so I really must say Mac has won a faithful customer.
The only problem I have is with Excel 2008 (ha...) because when I open certain sheets and click the + green button, Excel crashed and I can only press the power button and restart the computer... I've read many people have this problem.. Hope they fix it soon.
I absolutely love the trackpad, very very useful. I used to hate trackpads and always use a mouse 'til now!
I'm also thinking about buying 4GB of RAM from crucial or newegg (I think it's 78$) which would also be a major improvement, specially for running MatLab :)
Well, that's all, just happy :)
Cool, congrats! Welcome to the world of Mac...You'll never go back, trust me. I got hooked and will never go back. I get excited just telling people about all the great parts of a Mac to give you an idea of how much of a fanboy I've become!:D
But all I can say is enjoy and Congrats!;)
Wolfpup
Mar 16, 2008, 03:56 AM
Well, I received my first Mac 2 days ago, a Macbook Pro 2.4, 2GB RAM, 200GB HDD 5400rpm, matte screen, spanish keyboard. It came one day earlier, luckily I checked the tracking info on time! It took 2 days to ship and 2 days to get to Boston with standard shipping.
First of all I'm now proud to say I've tried both Mac and Windows and absolutely adore the Mac experience. The software is so useful and nice :)
The screen is very very nice, matte is perfect for me because glossy used to give me a little bit of headache. The programs are easy to install and always work. The cameras and phones I've connected are detected and work perfectly so I really must say Mac has won a faithful customer.
The only problem I have is with Excel 2008 (ha...) because when I open certain sheets and click the + green button, Excel crashed and I can only press the power button and restart the computer... I've read many people have this problem.. Hope they fix it soon.
I absolutely love the trackpad, very very useful. I used to hate trackpads and always use a mouse 'til now!
I'm also thinking about buying 4GB of RAM from crucial or newegg (I think it's 78$) which would also be a major improvement, specially for running MatLab :)
Well, that's all, just happy :)
Microsoft released a fix for Office 2008 last week that's supposed to primarily fix stability issues (as well as security vulnerabilities). Install that and see if it helps.
johnnyjibbs
Mar 16, 2008, 05:15 AM
I've been using my new Penryn 15" with glossy screen for nearly a week now (moving up from a still-working-perfect PowerBook 12" G4 @ 1GHz) and I have to say that I'm loving every minute.
Firstly, without re-igniting the whole matte vs glossy debate, I'm very happy with my choice of screen and have had no issues whatsoever. In fact the increased screen brightness over my previous PowerBook is fantastic. One of the features I'm loving is the one that the 12" PB never had (but should have done): the ambient light sensor. I find this fantastic to use, and very cool too. A great addition.
Multi-touch - I agree with some that pinch zoom/rotate are ever-so-slightly awkward, although they work well enough and I absolutely adore the 3-finger swipe and 2-finger scroll gestures (none of which I had on my 12"). So time-saving and intuitive are these gestures that I've yet to 'plug in' my Bluetooth mouse!
Speed ad noise - this thing screams compared with my 12" G4 (obviously). I would say that on an everyday idling use perspective, there is the slightest hint of a background noise over the 12", although the HD seems to click less and I've not yet managed to get the higher fan to kick in at all - even with tonnes of applications open and doing lots of iMovie/iDVD (which used to set the 12" into overdrive!). Neither does it get very hot at all - warm at best, even after prolonged use. I have to say, iPhoto performance is fantastic too, even on my many thousands of photos.
I bought Office 2008 (I have v.X on the 12") and it is quite nice, although I'm very disappointed with the performance of those apps. Like, for instance sometimes there's some typing lag when using Word. Come on Microsoft!
So I have stuck with the stock 2GB RAM and I can't say that I'm in too much of a hurry to get those additional gigs yet. I've not yet seen the beachball once, so I'm going to save the swap for a nice little upgrade in a couple of years.
The only problem I've had is that I've downloaded the iPhone SDK twice (yes all 2GB!) and both times the disc image has failed to open (error -4960 ??) but I guess that's a question for another forum...
Absolutely thrilled to bits with this machine. Still love the design. Glad I didn't extend the waiting game, whatever may come in June/July, etc. And I don't really notice it being much bigger or heavier than my 12" PB - yet I notice the slightly slimmer profile (1" thick, compared with 1.2) :)
teknikal90
Mar 16, 2008, 05:55 AM
i like my stock entry penryn macbook pro
only thing is, i wouldve preferred the new keyboard type, i even bought an apple keyboard cause t love it so much
happylau
Mar 16, 2008, 07:00 PM
Microsoft released a fix for Office 2008 last week that's supposed to primarily fix stability issues (as well as security vulnerabilities). Install that and see if it helps.
I actually have the update installed but I still have the same problem. It just happens with this one document, created in my Windows XP computer. Every time I open it with Excel 2008 and click the + symbol it crashes. I've "solved" the problem by copying the info into a new sheet, now it opens and closes nice and smooth.
even so Office is the slowest program on my Mac right now, even more than MatLab which runs very nice :)
happylau
Mar 16, 2008, 07:02 PM
Cool, congrats! Welcome to the world of Mac...You'll never go back, trust me. I got hooked and will never go back. I get excited just telling people about all the great parts of a Mac to give you an idea of how much of a fanboy I've become!:D
But all I can say is enjoy and Congrats!;)
Hey that's 2 of us!!!! I'm also very happy with the new machine, powerful and good-looking :) Very stable and so far it's running at low temperatures, so very good!!
Maybe you're right and I'm never going back!!
TimeWaster101
Mar 17, 2008, 01:16 PM
Hey that's 2 of us!!!! I'm also very happy with the new machine, powerful and good-looking :) Very stable and so far it's running at low temperatures, so very good!!
Maybe you're right and I'm never going back!!
Well congrats to you as well. As long as you take care of it, it'll run for years! Have a blast and enjoy! :D
:apple::apple::apple:
mac821
Mar 18, 2008, 10:30 AM
it has been little over a week with this new MBP and it's so awesome.
I got glossy screen and it is wonderful and multitouch is very useful.
I just hope that Apple not introducing whole new MBP in June... ;)
ridehard
Mar 19, 2008, 10:17 AM
Received my MBP last Thursday after 2 lonh weeks of waiting and problems with the transport company.
The mbp, runs quite cool, harddrive, cpu, around 38º (not gaiming, web browsing, videos, hd movies.).
Its fast, well built, beeing my first mac, took some getting used to leopard, but it work really well.
MBp first boot was almost instant, looked like it was in sleep mode.
Has to be the fastest booting and shutting down OS ever.
Very pleased, well build, light, the matte screen is a little washed (not very vivid colors) but still is a extremely nice.
Is silent, fans at 2000 rpm
Never liked touch pads, but still haven't pus a mouse on my mbp, this touch pad work really nice !!
Hate the enter key, beeing the key you use most and the smallest (Portuguese's layout ).
Caramello0197
Mar 19, 2008, 11:30 AM
Hey everyone, after months of reading everyone's posts and wishing that I had a MBP I have finally bought one. I bought MBP 17' high res glossy, 2.5mhz, 2gb of ram and bought 4gb from OWC, 200gb 7200rpm harddrive and I even bought the remote. I can't wait, I should receive it March 26th - April 1st. Airport will be delievered today. I am finally a mac user. I hate windows especially since i use the computer for HD video editing and photo editing. Adobe production Premium CS3 here I come. :D
Thanks everyone for all the great information and links!
Nick
TimeWaster101
Mar 19, 2008, 04:58 PM
Hey everyone, after months of reading everyone's posts and wishing that I had a MBP I have finally bought one. I bought MBP 17' high res glossy, 2.5mhz, 2gb of ram and bought 4gb from OWC, 200gb 7200rpm harddrive and I even bought the remote. I can't wait, I should receive it March 26th - April 1st. Airport will be delievered today. I am finally a mac user. I hate windows especially since i use the computer for HD video editing and photo editing. Adobe production Premium CS3 here I come. :D
Thanks everyone for all the great information and links!
Nick
Hey congrats to you and everyone else above.
You might also consider Final Cut Pro or Express as well. I've heard their excellent video editing programs. My friend and his dad use pro and they create very professional-like videos.
happylau
Mar 19, 2008, 05:52 PM
Received my MBP last Thursday after 2 lonh weeks of waiting and problems with the transport company.
The mbp, runs quite cool, harddrive, cpu, around 38º (not gaiming, web browsing, videos, hd movies.).
Its fast, well built, beeing my first mac, took some getting used to leopard, but it work really well.
MBp first boot was almost instant, looked like it was in sleep mode.
Has to be the fastest booting and shutting down OS ever.
Very pleased, well build, light, the matte screen is a little washed (not very vivid colors) but still is a extremely nice.
Is silent, fans at 2000 rpm
Never liked touch pads, but still haven't pus a mouse on my mbp, this touch pad work really nice !!
Hate the enter key, beeing the key you use most and the smallest (Portuguese's layout ).
Yes!! I've had the same thought about the ENTER key but now that I've been using it for some days I'm really used to it and hardly notice its size (I have a spanish keyboard)!
Temperature is indeed very cool, I think that's a big improvement of the 45nm processors.
Battery time is excellent.
I personally love the matte screen, colors are good, text is crisp clear and I work perfectly well near my sunny window.
Congratulations and welcome to the Mac world :)
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