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bluedoggiant
Feb 27, 2008, 04:20 PM
Well, just post what you think will happen, and comment, this is what I think will happen:

iMac


same 4 models
top 3 models will come with 2gb of RAM standard
No HD upgrades, or standards, MAYBE the 20" models will get more HD options like the 24"ers, but, dont think anything HDeable going on
Obviously Penryn in 2.1ghz (definate), 2.5ghz (if not, same ole 2.4ghz), and 2.8ghz (i dont think the mobile can go any faster)
24 inch models will have 512MB option for Vram, and maybe the highend model will get an option for a more advanced video card, but nothing big for vcard, maybe the low end imac will get the 2600xt mobile as well
same 4gb ram limit
maybe the 20" will get better displays
prolly better cooling for quieter operation, same 3 fans, just bigger vents and stuff
4 usb ports


last thing i didnt add to the list, cuz i wish it would happen, but know it wouldnt, is that the imac could have a pop out back, but i dont think apple will ever do that without diminishing the quad core MP from the line

Now Mac Mini, this isn't apple's best, popular, nor even apple own favorite computer, and people think its gonna die, cuz apple isnt paying any attention to it, but if it still goes strong, which i think it will, this is what i think will happen to it:


Penryn 2.1ghz, and some other higher end, like 2.2ghz, or if there is such thing, a 2.33ghz, of just one option being 2.1ghz
4gb RAM limit
the same GPU as in the MB and MBA
superdrive in both models (if there will be two), one will have 4x, the other 8x
a premium 250GB drive limit only available online, and 120GB, and 160GB, if there are two models, 120gb in the lower, and 160gb in the higher, if one, 120gb will be the standard
apple keyboard and MM will sell with it
open it up a bit so that MAYBE there could be no fans, i know, i know, the apple cube again


my wish for the mini though, and i know it wont happen, is that its a computer that looks EXACTLY like the imac, its an all in one, its called mac nano instead, and it comes in a 17inch model, and in assorted colors. thats my wish, but no way

So what do you guys think? pretty reasonable huh?



WannaGoMac
Feb 27, 2008, 05:00 PM
Well, just post what you think will happen, and comment, this is what I think will happen:

iMac


same 4 models
top 3 models will come with 2gb of RAM standard
No HD upgrades, or standards, MAYBE the 20" models will get more HD options like the 24"ers, but, dont think anything HDeable going on
Obviously Penryn in 2.1ghz (definate), 2.5ghz (if not, same ole 2.4ghz), and 2.8ghz (i dont think the mobile can go any faster)
24 inch models will have 512MB option for Vram, and maybe the highend model will get an option for a more advanced video card, but nothing big for vcard, maybe the low end imac will get the 2600xt mobile as well
same 4gb ram limit
maybe the 20" will get better displays
prolly better cooling for quieter operation, same 3 fans, just bigger vents and stuff
an option for 16x superdrive
4 usb ports


last thing i didnt add to the list, cuz i wish it would happen, but know it wouldnt, is that the imac could have a pop out back, but i dont think apple will ever do that without diminishing the quad core MP from the line

Now Mac Mini, this isn't apple's best, popular, nor even apple own favorite computer, and people think its gonna die, cuz apple isnt paying any attention to it, but if it still goes strong, which i think it will, this is what i think will happen to it:


Penryn 2.1ghz, and some other higher end, like 2.2ghz, or if there is such thing, a 2.33ghz, of just one option being 2.1ghz
4gb RAM limit
the same GPU as in the MB and MBA
superdrive in both models (if there will be two), one will have 4x, the other 8x
a premium 250GB drive limit only available online, and 120GB, and 160GB, if there are two models, 120gb in the lower, and 160gb in the higher, if one, 120gb will be the standard
apple keyboard and MM will sell with it
built in speaker
open it up a bit so that MAYBE there could be no fans, i know, i know, the apple cube again


my wish for the mini though, and i know it wont happen, is that its a computer that looks EXACTLY like the imac, its an all in one, its called mac nano instead, and it comes in a 17inch model, and in assorted colors. thats my wish, but no way

So what do you guys think? pretty reasonable huh?

hahahah, thanks... that was funny. :) Apple doesn't do anything good for the Mac Mini... you will be lucky if it gets a speed bump so they can clear out the supply chain of old Intel CPUs...

JayLenochiniMac
Feb 27, 2008, 05:30 PM
I think if Apple is forced to update because of Intel, it'll just be Penryn/speed bumps.

bluedoggiant
Feb 27, 2008, 06:10 PM
hahahah, thanks... that was funny. :) Apple doesn't do anything good for the Mac Mini... you will be lucky if it gets a speed bump so they can clear out the supply chain of old Intel CPUs...

Whats so funny?

ks-man
Feb 27, 2008, 06:16 PM
Anybody think there is a chance in the future for a 30" widescreen iMac? I really would love that but I'm guessing it won't be happening anytime soon.

Shotglass
Feb 27, 2008, 06:23 PM
If the minis get Penryn, 2GB RAM and a decent GPU, I might even be buying one.

Fonzijr1964
Feb 28, 2008, 07:46 AM
Anybody think there is a chance in the future for a 30" widescreen iMac? I really would love that but I'm guessing it won't be happening anytime soon.

I would love to see it. I was a hold out for the "new MBP" and look what i got. Nadda. So now I want to get an iMac so I can have more than 200GB at a resonabul RPM. But I dont want to by one this week and have a better one (maybe with a 30" screen) come out next week:(:mad::(

sam3020
Feb 28, 2008, 08:03 AM
I hope they do not decide to update the imacs because i have only just brought one about a week ago lol. If i knew i would of probably waited :(

rhodalinsky
Feb 28, 2008, 08:51 AM
I just ordered an imac yesterday. SO, I just cancelled my order today!;):confused:

elcid
Feb 28, 2008, 08:54 AM
I am looking for the most minamalisitic update to be satisifed. 2.0 base, SR, X3100.

Once I get a full time job I will be in the market. I do not want an iMac.

GekkePrutser
Feb 28, 2008, 10:55 AM
Now Mac Mini, this isn't apple's best, popular, nor even apple own favorite computer, and people think its gonna die, cuz apple isnt paying any attention to it, but if it still goes strong, which i think it will, this is what i think will happen to it:


apple keyboard and MM will sell with it
built in speaker
open it up a bit so that MAYBE there could be no fans, i know, i know, the apple cube again

my wish for the mini though, and i know it wont happen, is that its a computer that looks EXACTLY like the imac, its an all in one, its called mac nano instead, and it comes in a 17inch model, and in assorted colors. thats my wish, but no way

So what do you guys think? pretty reasonable huh?

Regarding your last 3 points: Apple never sold a keyboard & mouse with the mini so why would they start now? It's always had a built-in speaker. And fanless? No I don't see them redesigning the case of the mini. Even with the intel transition they went for the laziest possible option. They didn't even bother drilling another hole for the IR remote, they just stuck it in the drive slot :P

Anyway I agree with all your other points (though I do think they will keep a combo mini around)

Fonzijr1964
Feb 28, 2008, 11:41 AM
I hope they do not decide to update the imacs because i have only just brought one about a week ago lol. If i knew i would of probably waited :(

They probably are only going to update the processor
Thats bad for me:(

Smoogz
Feb 28, 2008, 02:01 PM
Im hoping for an update to the motherboard... I really want to be able to put 800 Mhz RAM in the iMac.:p

WannaGoMac
Feb 28, 2008, 06:46 PM
More and more I am thinking of just getting a Mac "another way" which is not allowed to be mentioned on this forum! :)

I need a basic mini tower computer, and Mac Pro is much too much for my needs.

jfull15
Feb 28, 2008, 06:53 PM
I just ordered an imac yesterday. SO, I just cancelled my order today!;):confused:

what? you cancelled your iMac or Mac Mini, becuase of a MacRumors post? Which one did you cancel?

I am Sampson
Feb 28, 2008, 11:27 PM
I hope the ram isn't increased. Apple charge so much for there ram than a good proportion of the extra value from an upgrade will ba wasted. I'd rather see that money put into something else. That said, I'd expect a Ram upgrade to be pretty likely due to the current macbook/macbook pro offereing.
But it'll be such a waste in my opion. Give me a better gpu or cpu or a lower price and let me get my ram seperatly at a sensible price anyday.

Flyer0815
Feb 28, 2008, 11:31 PM
Anybody think there is a chance in the future for a 30" widescreen iMac? I really would love that but I'm guessing it won't be happening anytime soon.

This my friend is my dream mac... I would die to have a screen that size.. Dont know if there is a market for one, but I sure would be speeding to the apple store to pick one up if it ever was created

shearp7e
Feb 29, 2008, 01:36 AM
I hope they only update the processor too. Im waiting on my iMac being delivered, should be with me on Monday. Cant cancel it now. No one better talk to me Tuesday if the graphics card gets revised!

clin86
Feb 29, 2008, 02:15 AM
is there something wrong with the 20inch imac displays? i looked up the tech specs and it shows that it isnt as bright as the 24inch ones. Has anyone compared? cos i'm getting one this weekend.

sam3020
Feb 29, 2008, 03:47 AM
I have a 20" iMac which the display is really bright on so i do not think there is any difference between the 24" and the 20" so go ahead and buy. They are supurb

Jelite
Feb 29, 2008, 06:01 AM
More and more I am thinking of just getting a Mac "another way" which is not allowed to be mentioned on this forum! :)

I need a basic mini tower computer, and Mac Pro is much too much for my needs.

Kidnapping Steve Jobs is NOT the way to go.

This my friend is my dream mac... I would die to have a screen that size.. Dont know if there is a market for one, but I sure would be speeding to the apple store to pick one up if it ever was created

Asus are using their EeePC technology in Large-screen TV's so you never know.


I think if there are updates then they'll just be cpu/ram/HDD like the macbooks.


I've ordered the 2GHZ mini and a 16GB Touch plus 2GB ram and a new mouse (had to order now to use a 50 voucher), none of this will be shipped until the Touch is in stock though which is due on the 5th, this gives me time to cancel if there is an upgrade announced.:cool:
Unless the Touch comes in early then im screwed.:(

WannaGoMac
Feb 29, 2008, 06:36 AM
This my friend is my dream mac... I would die to have a screen that size.. Dont know if there is a market for one, but I sure would be speeding to the apple store to pick one up if it ever was created

What a waste of a large screen when it would be time to upgrade. That's the problem with iMacs, they are dishwashers... you gotta throw out everything when it is time to get a new one.

bluedoggiant
Feb 29, 2008, 11:16 AM
is there something wrong with the 20inch imac displays? i looked up the tech specs and it shows that it isnt as bright as the 24inch ones. Has anyone compared? cos i'm getting one this weekend.

I have a 20" iMac which the display is really bright on so i do not think there is any difference between the 24" and the 20" so go ahead and buy. They are supurb

I have posted a thread about the 20" iMac screen, terrible viewing angle, not saying its bad machine, but the viewing angle isn't a craving.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=444208

clin86
Feb 29, 2008, 12:04 PM
that does look pretty bad. Does anyone know if they use the same displays as the 20inch cinema displays?

JayLenochiniMac
Feb 29, 2008, 12:38 PM
What a waste of a large screen when it would be time to upgrade. That's the problem with iMacs, they are dishwashers... you gotta throw out everything when it is time to get a new one.

Yes, but when it's time to upgrade (I'm not talking about those of you who feel the need to have the newest and 1% faster computer), your panel is already obsolete and has been replaced by newer technology (LED, touchscreen, etc.). Even LED-backlit displays will become obsolete someday.

JayLenochiniMac
Feb 29, 2008, 12:55 PM
that does look pretty bad. Does anyone know if they use the same displays as the 20inch cinema displays?

No, they don't. If you want ACD quality display in your 20" iMac, get the white one.

gorby
Feb 29, 2008, 01:31 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/02/curved-imac-iview.jpg

bluedoggiant
Feb 29, 2008, 01:34 PM
that does look pretty bad. Does anyone know if they use the same displays as the 20inch cinema displays?

yes. the cinema displays use ACD's. not the same as the imac

834573-

no thanks!!

takeabyteoutta
Feb 29, 2008, 03:21 PM
Yes, but when it's time to upgrade (I'm not talking about those of you who feel the need to have the newest and 1% faster computer), your panel is already obsolete and has been replaced by newer technology (LED, touchscreen, etc.). Even LED-backlit displays will become obsolete someday.

OLED's will be here before you know it. they're already putting em in keyboards.

WannaGoMac
Feb 29, 2008, 05:08 PM
Yes, but when it's time to upgrade (I'm not talking about those of you who feel the need to have the newest and 1% faster computer), your panel is already obsolete and has been replaced by newer technology (LED, touchscreen, etc.). Even LED-backlit displays will become obsolete someday.

Guess that's how you do it. I keep my monitors a couple generations of computer as they are normally top of the line... I still use a 20" LCD and have no plans to upgrade and buy another. Oh well, that's why the H ackintosh was invented :P

brop52
Mar 1, 2008, 03:12 PM
30" iMac? If you want a 30" monitor you are probably someone that wants a Mac Pro. It's a waste to have such a large monitor you can't use after 3-4 years.

mlblacy
Mar 1, 2008, 04:00 PM
30" iMac? If you want a 30" monitor you are probably someone that wants a Mac Pro. It's a waste to have such a large monitor you can't use after 3-4 years.

Actually I am a pro who happily uses a 24" white iMac, daily & professionally. I am jonesing for a 30", and thought that it would be the next logical step beyond the 24's. I love the extra footspace I gained by not having the tower underfoot, and it was a pain crawling under the desk to insert/remove CDs & DVDs. Honestly, after 4 years I am going to be begging for a new system anyway... and I would rather be out 3 grand, than 7. Expandability & longevity are Red Herring arguments against the larger iMacs. I kept my g4 sawtooth for 5 years, but I couldn't see dumping add'l money into it to try and keep it "current" a new pro system would still blow the pants off it (actually my 24" blows the pants off the old system). I know I am in the minority here, but I say the fully figured 24's are apt pro-sumer machines. I don't do video, but beyond that I am able to produce entire publications and work on huge 1.5gb pshop files with no difficulty. What is the point of having a machine that works faster than your brain does anyway, lol. Of course I can remember the not so distant days of waiting 45 minutes for a syquest drive to copy 45mb worth of information... I don't miss that at all.

So... bring it on Mr. Steve. This busy professional wants and would buy a 30" iMac the day it comes out (just like I did when the 24" first came out). Give me a better video card, and 4-6gb of RAM, and I will be a happy camper.

cheers,
michael

asphalt-proof
Mar 1, 2008, 05:45 PM
Actually I am a pro who happily uses a 24" white iMac, daily & professionally. I am jonesing for a 30", and thought that it would be the next logical step beyond the 24's. I love the extra footspace I gained by not having the tower underfoot, and it was a pain crawling under the desk to insert/remove CDs & DVDs. Honestly, after 4 years I am going to be begging for a new system anyway... and I would rather be out 3 grand, than 7. Expandability & longevity are Red Herring arguments against the larger iMacs. I kept my g4 sawtooth for 5 years, but I couldn't see dumping add'l money into it to try and keep it "current" a new pro system would still blow the pants off it (actually my 24" blows the pants off the old system). I know I am in the minority here, but I say the fully figured 24's are apt pro-sumer machines. I don't do video, but beyond that I am able to produce entire publications and work on huge 1.5gb pshop files with no difficulty. What is the point of having a machine that works faster than your brain does anyway, lol. Of course I can remember the not so distant days of waiting 45 minutes for a syquest drive to copy 45mb worth of information... I don't miss that at all.

So... bring it on Mr. Steve. This busy professional wants and would buy a 30" iMac the day it comes out (just like I did when the 24" first came out). Give me a better video card, and 4-6gb of RAM, and I will be a happy camper.

cheers,
michael

I completely agree. I have a 17" G4 iMac that is almost 5 years old. Still going but slowly dying. I am NOT lamenting the loss of the keyboard when it comes time to replace the system. I fervently hope that a 30" iMac comes out and soon. I really think that the iMac is poised to become a secondary home entertainment system for a home office or bedroom.
I am shooting for May to purchase a new system. That will almost be the 5 year mark for this old warhorse. The old 'upgradeability' canard is so last century.

brop52
Mar 2, 2008, 12:40 AM
I agree that the iMac should be a long term machine. (I still have my G3 iMac from 2001, however the price of a 30" computer will be lacking in value added. I hope to use my 20" aluminum iMac for at least another 4 years. After that, it should make a good computer for my parents or to keep around.

bluedoggiant
Mar 7, 2008, 04:35 PM
I guess we can get our hopes again, so what do you guys think about the above list?

Fonzijr1964
Mar 8, 2008, 10:15 AM
Yeah i like the long term idea but when is the iMac update coming out? I need it bad

4God
Mar 8, 2008, 12:41 PM
pic

Editing in Final Cut on that thing would be murder!

....This busy professional wants and would buy a 30" iMac the day it comes out......

....I fervently hope that a 30" iMac comes out and soon....

30"? Would be nice but anybody wanna take a stab at what that might cost?
I think that would take it out of "consumer-ish" pricing, don't you?

ABM
Mar 8, 2008, 12:42 PM
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/02/curved-imac-iview.jpg

i would love it!

darkscreamz
Mar 9, 2008, 01:22 AM
I would love to see the Mac Mini updated (even if it's just CPU and RAM) but importantly I'd be hoping for a update to Wireless N, which would basically make it an ideal media centre/file server.

bluedoggiant
Mar 9, 2008, 10:44 AM
i would love it!

I wouldn't!!! That looks like PC!!! I mean, today's iMac mock PC's:p. The Sony Vaio all in one has something from it, only that the vaio is nicer, but the iMac beats.

Noobish
Mar 10, 2008, 04:18 PM
Any chance tomorrow is the day? I'm not getting my hopes up.

I'd like to pick up a mini but I'd like to have the ability to get more ram in there then the current 2Gb limit. Yeah, I know that it can accept 3 but I'd like to go to 4 since ram is getting cheaper.

I'm in no hurry though.

Fenir
Mar 10, 2008, 04:52 PM
I was in the store (best buy that is) on Saturday showing my mom the iMacs and she loved it so much that we were going to get it at that very moment - but I told her to wait untill Tuesday (tomorrow) because there was a chance that Apple might upgrade the iMacs...if there is no release tomorrow, we are going to bight the bullet and just get the computer tomorrow. The screens on those iMacs are gorgeous

Any Video-Card bump would make me happy. I honestly don't think I will be able to tell the difference from the new Penryn, and all those GB's of free space won't be filled up, so anything else will be just an added bonus.

Oh, 2GB of RAM plz...and a Blu-Ray player. Or not

n1ght
Mar 10, 2008, 04:57 PM
Penryn's main advantages are increased battery life and lower heat output. (Also, the SSE4 instruction set.)

It would be nice to have these in the iMacs and Minis, but the power and heat improvements were more conducive to the MB upgrades. There's a small chance of Apple holding off for Montevina (really Cantiga).

tuc
Mar 10, 2008, 11:19 PM
Any chance tomorrow is the day? I'm not getting my hopes up.

I'd like to pick up a mini but I'd like to have the ability to get more ram in there then the current 2Gb limit. Yeah, I know that it can accept 3 but I'd like to go to 4 since ram is getting cheaper.

I'm in no hurry though.

Well the Apple Store (http://store.apple.com/) is currently down, for what it's worth.

I'm more or less with you. I'm waiting for a higher RAM ceiling and something a bit more futureproof than GMA950 graphics. I'm not in a hurry, but if it doesn't come fairly soon I would suspect the Mini would be discontinued, which would be too bad.

zainjetha
Mar 10, 2008, 11:30 PM
Apple store is still down... Dont think it would be anything major.. Maybe Penryn iMacs would be good to level them with MBPs...

Does Apple Store always go down every tuesday for maintainance?????

mschmitt
Mar 10, 2008, 11:36 PM
Well, if the store is down in part for iMac updates, I'm buying a 24" as soon as they are back up. If the GPUs are not upgraded, however, I suppose I'll join those waiting for Montevina.

Zwhaler
Mar 10, 2008, 11:41 PM
Well, if the store is down in part for iMac updates, I'm buying a 24" as soon as they are back up. If the GPUs are not upgraded, however, I suppose I'll join those waiting for Montevina.

I have a feeling that Apple will use the same cards, except they will bump up the max VRAM to 512 (they can't not do it after doing it in the MBP, right?)

just what I think.

mschmitt
Mar 11, 2008, 12:10 AM
I have a feeling that Apple will use the same cards, except they will bump up the max VRAM to 512 (they can't not do it after doing it in the MBP, right?)

Right. I'll add that I'm not being critical of the 2600 HD Pro, as the YouTube videos I've seen of iMacs running games via Boot Camp look pretty good. The card has been around awhile though, so I'm hoping for something newer and more powerful.

There's always something to look forward to with Apple. For me, that's part of the fun.

bluedoggiant
Mar 11, 2008, 11:35 AM
It's not down for me.