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chronzz
Feb 27, 2008, 10:19 PM
And finally, iNdependence 1.4 beta 5 with full support for the 1.1.4 firmware (including SIM unlock). Get at Independence Dev Site (http://code.google.com/p/independence/) mac only ;)



carfac
Feb 27, 2008, 10:26 PM
Sweet- and they beat ZiPhone this round!

Good Job!

Aries326
Feb 27, 2008, 10:35 PM
Sweet- and they beat ZiPhone this round!

Good Job!

I don't think so. Reports have it that ZiPhone 2.4 was already unlocking and jailbreaking 1.1.4 without any changes to it. Gonna see if the reports are right. I'll post later.

carfac
Feb 27, 2008, 10:38 PM
I don't think so. Reports have it that ZiPhone 2.4 was already unlocking and jailbreaking 1.1.4 without any changes to it. Gonna see if the reports are right. I'll post later.

Not OFFICIALLY. It MAY do all that, or it may not- I have also heard that it does NOT unlock, but will jailbreak.

Bottom line, Ziphone.org still says NOT to use it. I would say it was beat.

stevehp
Feb 27, 2008, 10:55 PM
awesome...wondering if this will allow be to downgrade an otb 1.1.1

chronzz
Feb 27, 2008, 10:58 PM
I would say it was beat.
yep i already used it and im unlocked on 1.1.4 using independence took about 15 min with the firmware update

chronzz
Feb 27, 2008, 11:03 PM
I don't think so. Reports have it that ZiPhone 2.4 was already unlocking and jailbreaking 1.1.4 without any changes to it. Gonna see if the reports are right. I'll post later.


i just visited ziphones site an it indicates
"DO NOT UPGRADE TO 1.1.4
ZiPhone will soon work with 1.1.4.

NOTE: If you have a contract and activation
you can ALREADY use ziphone to jailbreak
and install applications on 1.1.4 !"

so u cant unlock it yet independence is the winner

Aries326
Feb 27, 2008, 11:03 PM
Not OFFICIALLY. It MAY do all that, or it may not- I have also heard that it does NOT unlock, but will jailbreak.

Bottom line, Ziphone.org still says NOT to use it. I would say it was beat.

Confirmed. ZiPhone was beat. It now gives me a message saying a different SIM was used and I need to connect with iTunes. Hmm... I'll have to wait for the new ZiPhone. I gotta unlock this phone before I give it to my wife and I can buy my 16 GB iPhone. I really don't want to downgrade it to 1.1.3 if I don't have to.

chronzz
Feb 27, 2008, 11:37 PM
Confirmed. ZiPhone was beat. It now gives me a message saying a different SIM was used and I need to connect with iTunes. Hmm... I'll have to wait for the new ZiPhone. I gotta unlock this phone before I give it to my wife and I can buy my 16 GB iPhone. I really don't want to downgrade it to 1.1.3 if I don't have to.

hi if you upadated to 1.1.4 using ziphone and u have a mac
use independence to jailbreak and unlock the phone again or try using the signal.app reports say it works and you get signal back
source www.hackthatphone.com


Update:
Signal.app download link (http://iphoneland.info/apps/Signal.zip)

carfac
Feb 27, 2008, 11:40 PM
yep i already used it and im unlocked on 1.1.4 using independence took about 15 min with the firmware update

What does iNdependence do to the Modelm Firmware? I heard that 1.1.4 should have 4.05.somethng I think- a jump up again from 1.1.3.

The way they got 1.1.3 to work was to downgrade the firmware to 4.02.13_g (normal, not unlocked 1.1.3 would be 4.03.13_g). Just wondering what you ended up with.

chronzz
Feb 27, 2008, 11:48 PM
What does iNdependence do to the Modelm Firmware? I heard that 1.1.4 should have 4.05.somethng I think- a jump up again from 1.1.3.

The way they got 1.1.3 to work was to downgrade the firmware to 4.02.13_g (normal, not unlocked 1.1.3 would be 4.03.13_g). Just wondering what you ended up with.

iNdependence now activates/jailbreaks and unlocks 1.1.4. It will leave you with 1.1.2 baseband not 1.1.4 but your FW will be 1.1.4, same as the 1.1.3 FW

that is only with the 4.6 bootloader
if you have the 3.9 BL you can just upgrade and use signal.app only if you IPSF or gunlocked your iphone prior to the upgrade.

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 12:00 AM
I'm receiving an unlocked 1.1.3 device tomorrow! What is required of me to upgrade to 1.1.4 and successfully unlock / jailbreak.

chronzz
Feb 28, 2008, 12:03 AM
I'm receiving an unlocked 1.1.3 device tomorrow! What is required of me to upgrade to 1.1.4 and successfully unlock / jailbreak.

www.hackthatphone.com is your friend

stevehp
Feb 28, 2008, 12:04 AM
iNdependence now activates/jailbreaks and unlocks 1.1.4. It will leave you with 1.1.2 baseband not 1.1.4 but your FW will be 1.1.4, same as the 1.1.3 FW

that is only with the 4.6 bootloader
if you have the 3.9 BL you can just upgrade and use signal.app only if you IPSF or gunlocked your iphone prior to the upgrade.

so if I have a phone that was accidentally upgraded from an OTB 1.1.1 to 1.1.4, I could use this new version to jailbreak, downgrade to 1.1.2, jailbreak, run signal.app and be in business again?

chronzz
Feb 28, 2008, 12:10 AM
so if I have a phone that was accidentally upgraded from an OTB 1.1.1 to 1.1.4, I could use this new version to jailbreak, downgrade to 1.1.2, jailbreak, run signal.app and be in business again?

you dont need to downgrade, if you dont mind not using the Google ma
ps locate me, all you have to do is activate/jailbreak using independence and then sim unlock it. but if you want to use the locate me option you have to downgrade your baseband. go to www.hackthatphone.com and you will find a way to downgrade your 1.1.4 baseband to a 1.1.1 state and then unlock it using the gunlock or ipsf meted .

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 12:11 AM
All the tutorials on the site are still for 1.1.3..1.1.4 hasn't been updated yet..is your hint to just wait a couple days ;)

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 12:15 AM
From Independence site:
Google maps current location feature will not work if you SIM unlock using iNdependence 1.4 beta. This is because when iNdependence SIM unlocks your phone, it installs baseband 04.02.13_G, and this (older) baseband doesn't support that feature.

I guess this means that Independence will do all the work for me if I do a straight Upgrade to 1.1.4 (that is if I don't care about Locate me)

chronzz
Feb 28, 2008, 12:16 AM
All the tutorials on the site are still for 1.1.3..1.1.4 hasn't been updated yet..is your hint to just wait a couple days ;)

on the site says update will be up soon as in tonight or tomorrow but he has a brief tutorial on how to upgrade to 1.1.4 and use the signal.app to stay unlocked on the 3.9 BL but if you are new to the hacking world of the iphone i would wait till the site has a detailed tutorial on how to so it for both 4.6 & 3.9 BL

chronzz
Feb 28, 2008, 12:18 AM
From Independence site:
Google maps current location feature will not work if you SIM unlock using iNdependence 1.4 beta. This is because when iNdependence SIM unlocks your phone, it installs baseband 04.02.13_G, and this (older) baseband doesn't support that feature.

I guess this means that Independence will do all the work for me if I do a straight Upgrade to 1.1.4 (that is if I don't care about Locate me)

YES

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 12:20 AM
I'm not new to it. I just haven't been around since 1.0.2 and 1.1.1

zetsurin
Feb 28, 2008, 06:59 AM
I believe running an old baseband poses more issues than just missing the locate me functionality. A large number of users (evidence is in the constant posts about various iphone forums) have noted that their iphone suddenly and unexpectedly can boot itself into restore mode when running this config (new system software, old baseband). For that reason I have stayed with 1.1.2, but would upgrade if there is ever a patched baseband available for newer firmwares with 4.6BL (not interested in downgrading the BL, too risky).

legaleye3000
Feb 28, 2008, 07:45 AM
iNdependence now activates/jailbreaks and unlocks 1.1.4. It will leave you with 1.1.2 baseband not 1.1.4 but your FW will be 1.1.4, same as the 1.1.3 FW

that is only with the 4.6 bootloader
if you have the 3.9 BL you can just upgrade and use signal.app only if you IPSF or gunlocked your iphone prior to the upgrade.



I have unlocked 1.1.3 using IPSF method... So what should I do to upgrade? Also, Independence's way seems good, but I want a FULLY functioning phone (including Maps Location). But that's besides the point... What should I do now? I'm running BL 3.9

granka
Feb 28, 2008, 01:40 PM
I have a question.

If you were using independence to just jailbreak and not unlock does it still downgrade your baseband? I'm on a O2 iPhone tariff and I do not need to unlock. As of right now I have 4.03.... 1.1.3 jailbreak and everything works.

So is it possible for me to upgrade to 1.1.4 and baseband of 4.04... Using iTunes and then use independence without it downgrading my baseband to 4.02... And have everything work?


BL 3.9 by the way

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 03:24 PM
Running 1.1.4 unlocked! Works great!

hexonxonx
Feb 28, 2008, 03:39 PM
I ran independence on one of my phones just so I can finish using the funds on an old GoPhone sim. Using independence, I had to unlock and activate the phone to get the sim to work.

When I used Ziphone to use the same sim, I only had to unlock the phone, activation was not needed. Anyone know why I had to activate using independence?

mrat93
Feb 28, 2008, 04:19 PM
Well I tried to jailbreak my iPhone 1.1.4... And iNdependence says it is jailbroken, but there's no installer.app on my iPhone. What can I do to install it? Thanks

legaleye3000
Feb 28, 2008, 04:26 PM
Can I just update if I used the IPFS method in 1.1.3?

cubbie5150
Feb 28, 2008, 04:34 PM
Well I tried to jailbreak my iPhone 1.1.4... And iNdependence says it is jailbroken, but there's no installer.app on my iPhone. What can I do to install it? Thanks

This is what is preventing me from updating/jailbreaking w/ iNdependence... Can others confirm that Installer isn't included? Aw well, I'm sure a nice GUI will be released by the weekend anyway...

chronzz
Feb 28, 2008, 04:51 PM
This is what is preventing me from updating/jailbreaking w/ iNdependence... Can others confirm that Installer isn't included? Aw well, I'm sure a nice GUI will be released by the weekend anyway...

independence does not install the installer you have to install it using independence and then ssh into iphone and set these commands

chmod 777 /Applications
chmod 777 /Applications/Installer.app
chmod 777 /Applications/Installer.app/Installer

download the installer from here (http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/)

Update: if the above command didn't work use this one
chmod ug+s /Applications/Installer.app/Installer

chronzz
Feb 28, 2008, 04:53 PM
Can I just update if I used the IPFS method in 1.1.3?

yes but after upgrade activation/jailbreak you have to install openssh and run signal.app to be unlocked on the new baseband or unlock it again and it will downgrade your baseband to a 1.1.2 state

Whorehay
Feb 28, 2008, 07:58 PM
I think I'd rather wait for Ziphone.

legaleye3000
Feb 28, 2008, 08:09 PM
yes but after upgrade activation/jailbreak you have to install openssh and run signal.app to be unlocked on the new baseband or unlock it again and it will downgrade your baseband to a 1.1.2 state


So if I run Signal.app w/ the IPSF method after I upgrade to 1.1.4, I should be fine? Did you mean I would be on the 1.1.2 baseband OR I could go the other route and downgrade to the 1.1.2 baseband?

Thanks

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 08:51 PM
So if I run Signal.app w/ the IPSF method after I upgrade to 1.1.4, I should be fine? Did you mean I would be on the 1.1.2 baseband OR I could go the other route and downgrade to the 1.1.2 baseband?

Thanks

You can use independence to downgrade your baseband and REUNLOCK the phone. you should be fine after i think....if you with to keep IPSF though..then you use signal.app

legaleye3000
Feb 28, 2008, 09:08 PM
1. If I just update and install signal.app, everything will work and I'll be onthe new baseband too?
2. Also, my phone already has Signal.App.... Will I have to reinstall? If so, where do I install too? (I already have Signal.App on my mac)


Thanks

onqun
Feb 28, 2008, 09:15 PM
guys i am taking the ram disk creation failed why ?

WorldIRC
Feb 28, 2008, 09:48 PM
Read the known issues...

PatrickRolfsen
Feb 28, 2008, 10:11 PM
so will just jailbreaking affect anything- ie. will it alter the baseband and make the phone unusable or break maps?

chronzz
Feb 29, 2008, 12:52 AM
1. If I just update and install signal.app, everything will work and I'll be onthe new baseband too?
2. Also, my phone already has Signal.App.... Will I have to reinstall? If so, where do I install too? (I already have Signal.App on my mac)


Thanks

yes you have to install signal.app again and yes you will be fine

so will just jailbreaking affect anything- ie. will it alter the baseband and make the phone unusable or break maps?

jailbreaking the iphone will not alter the baseband

guys i am taking the ram disk creation failed why ?

just forcequit independence and run it again

I think I'd rather wait for Ziphone.

they both independence and ziphone use the same way to do things

Can I just update if I used the IPFS method in 1.1.3?

yes but if you have otb 1.1.3 you will have to unlock it again. but if you have the 3.9bl ie. 1.1 or earlier iphone you can just use the signal.app and ur good to go

spaceballl
Feb 29, 2008, 01:57 AM
Bottom line, Ziphone.org still says NOT to use it. I would say it was beat.
Bottom line, who cares

legaleye3000
Feb 29, 2008, 07:12 AM
I downloaded the Signal.App file to my mac. How do I install it? I'm assuming I use a program like FUGU and place it somewhere on the phone over wifi. Please give details. Thanks

amf666
Feb 29, 2008, 11:34 AM
Hi, updated to 1.1.4 tried to run the new version of iNdependence to activate. It starts working, generates ram disk then a screen appears and says waiting for jailbreak and just sits there until i force quit it. Ideas please?

chronzz
Feb 29, 2008, 12:15 PM
I downloaded the Signal.App file to my mac. How do I install it? I'm assuming I use a program like FUGU and place it somewhere on the phone over wifi. Please give details. Thanks

use customize tab in independence after installing ssh to install it on your phone

chronzz
Feb 29, 2008, 12:16 PM
Hi, updated to 1.1.4 tried to run the new version of iNdependence to activate. It starts working, generates ram disk then a screen appears and says waiting for jailbreak and just sits there until i force quit it. Ideas please?

force quit independence and relaunch should work

amf666
Feb 29, 2008, 01:14 PM
Quit and relaunched a couple of times and works sweet!

MrT8064
Feb 29, 2008, 02:11 PM
my friend went ahead and clicked unlock, it shows no signal or operator, any fix? (no calls)

Jayer
Mar 1, 2008, 08:57 AM
I got this message in terminal while after installing SSH "Operation timed out"

I folowed these instructions: http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_114_unlock_mac.html

I was worried about the whole terminal thing and it is giving me problems.

Installer is on the phone and all seems to be working except I can not download BSD I get this message" Main script execution failed"


1)what exactly is that last step with terminal for, will it be ok if I do not do it?

2)Do you think that the problem I am having with BSD is because of the terminal step?

Thanks to who ever can help