What happens if I share my Leopard installation discs with another person? [Archive]

compuguy1088

Feb 27, 2008, 11:18 PM

Well yeah that person is my girlfriend... so um... what happens if I share them with her?

What happens? Well...what happens is that a rift in the space time continuum appears and sucks you in. That is what happens. :D

sushi

Feb 27, 2008, 11:21 PM

There is nothing technically from keeping you from doing this. The disks will work.

However, you are violating Apples EULA -- even if you purchased a Family Pack because the GF does not count.

compuguy1088

Feb 27, 2008, 11:22 PM

There is nothing technically from keeping you from doing this. The disks will work.

However, you are violating Apples EULA -- even if you purchased a Family Pack because the GF does not count.

What he said....

Flyer0815

Feb 27, 2008, 11:30 PM

Unless you bought a family pack (which entitles you 5 installs for macs residing in the same household), you only have a license for 1 install on 1 computer.

Ethically you are stealing and should purchase another copy for her.

Technically there is nothing stopping you from putting it on more than 1 mac.

valdore

Feb 27, 2008, 11:38 PM

Bah! I'm an Apple stockholder so my conscience is at ease after my horrid act of using my one purchased Leopard install disk on both of my macs.

cohibadad

Feb 27, 2008, 11:45 PM

Bah! I'm an Apple stockholder so my conscience is at ease after my horrid act of using my one purchased Leopard install disk on both of my macs.

I am going to bring up your confession at the next shareholder meeting.

hajime

Feb 28, 2008, 12:07 AM

If you have the family pack and she is willing to get married with you because of that, I don't see any problem.

juanster

Feb 28, 2008, 12:10 AM

you will go to hell......................................see you there;) (not for the same reason tho)

MrSmith

Feb 28, 2008, 12:14 AM

Bah! I'm an Apple stockholder so my conscience is at ease after my horrid act of using my one purchased Leopard install disk on both of my macs.
I know you were joking, but should I seriously buy 3 copies for my wife's MB, my MB and my iMac? :eek:

iCeFuSiOn

Feb 28, 2008, 12:34 AM

I know you were joking, but should I seriously buy 3 copies for my wife's MB, my MB and my iMac? :eek:
The family pack lets you do this for $199 I believe instead of spending $129.99 x 3.

benlangdon

Feb 28, 2008, 12:39 AM

psh. nothing.
do not think twice about it either.
ive installed leapord, iwork and ilife more than 10 times each. nothing happened:)

leave it to apple to tell you you can only use your cd once.
so even if you delete your comp you have to buy another.
smart marketing. stupid concept.

admanimal

Feb 28, 2008, 12:46 AM

leave it to apple to tell you you can only use your cd once.
so even if you delete your comp you have to buy another.
smart marketing. stupid concept.

Your understanding of the license is incorrect. You are only allowed to have it installed on one Apple computer at a time. If you erase your hard drive and/or buy a new computer and remove it from the old one, you are free to install it again.

MrSmith

Feb 28, 2008, 12:46 AM

If Apple were in the music business I suppose I'd have to buy a different CD depending on whether I was a single guy or had a family that were going to listen to it. Kind of like erecting a toll gate in the middle of the desert, isn't it? I mean, does anyone buy a family discount? Why? Because Apple say so?

Yeah, I know, sidetracking towards political concepts...

benlangdon

Feb 28, 2008, 02:10 AM

Your understanding of the license is incorrect. You are only allowed to have it installed on one Apple computer at a time. If you erase your hard drive and/or buy a new computer and remove it from the old one, you are free to install it again.

ya but you are still able for it to work. as i have deleted mine only 3 times and have leapord on 7 other macs along with ilife and iphoto, and did the same on tiger (which i dont know if they said the same)

but legally i understand, only 1 at a time in use.

Phil A.

Feb 28, 2008, 05:06 AM

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If Apple were in the music business I suppose I'd have to buy a different CD depending on whether I was a single guy or had a family that were going to listen to it. Kind of like erecting a toll gate in the middle of the desert, isn't it? I mean, does anyone buy a family discount? Why? Because Apple say so?

Yeah, I know, sidetracking towards political concepts...

I bought the Family Pack. Why? Because it's the decent, honest thing to do. Not that hard a concept to understand, is it?

bamaworks

Feb 28, 2008, 05:12 AM

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I bought the Family Pack. Why? Because it's the decent, honest thing to do. Not that hard a concept to understand, is it?

Perhaps you also bought it with a real, steady income via a stable career. Some individuals are students with barely enough money to function but need a mac for educational necessity. But I guess they should spend the extra $125 (after student discounts, since Family isn't discounted) to install on multiple macs they own :rolleyes:, or their fiancee's device, etc. Not that hard a concept to understand either, eh?

MrSmith

Feb 28, 2008, 05:13 AM

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I bought the Family Pack. Why? Because it's the decent, honest thing to do. Not that hard a concept to understand, is it?I don't see how your self-righteousness is relevant in this case. You're telling me you'd feel guilty if you bought a single user version, then bought another computer and used the same copy? I suppose you'd go and buy another single user or sell the single user on ebay and buy a family pack. Good on you. I'm sure you'll get into heaven no problem. :rolleyes:

zapp

Feb 28, 2008, 05:22 AM

Well yeah that person is my girlfriend... so um... what happens if I share them with her?

In the end Apple is a Hardware company, if Apple cared a whole lot they would have it serial numbered with a lengthy authentication process.

benlangdon

Feb 28, 2008, 05:22 AM

bamaworks

Feb 28, 2008, 05:23 AM

Well yeah that person is my girlfriend... so um... what happens if I share them with her?

The Apple gnomes come out of your superdrive and eat your face off. It's rather vicious and I DO NOT recommend it.

sushi

Feb 28, 2008, 09:08 AM

Perhaps you also bought it with a real, steady income via a stable career. Some individuals are students with barely enough money to function but need a mac for educational necessity.
Okay, so I am a student and don't have the funds, then someone should give it to me for free? Don't think so.

Imagine going into a restaurant and eating dinner, then telling the manager/waiter/owner, I'm sorry, but I cannot pay. But that's okay, I am a student and need the nutrition to function but cannot pay?

Simply amazing.

kfordham281

Feb 28, 2008, 09:17 AM

OS X EULA: So I know that a family pack is 5 licenses under the same roof. Does it say anything about having to be a "family" though? I'm married with only one Mac so it has no baring on me. But I am curious. If you had 4 roommates and you all lived under the same roof, could you buy a family pack and would it still be legal under the EULA?

Phil A.

Feb 28, 2008, 11:01 AM

Perhaps you also bought it with a real, steady income via a stable career. Some individuals are students with barely enough money to function but need a mac for educational necessity. But I guess they should spend the extra $125 (after student discounts, since Family isn't discounted) to install on multiple macs they own :rolleyes:, or their fiancee's device, etc. Not that hard a concept to understand either, eh?

What's that got to do with anything? When you buy a mac it comes with a licensed version of OS X. No-one forces anyone to buy Leopard: If you can't afford it then you simply use the version that comes with your Mac. There are plenty of things I'd like but can't afford, so I just don't buy them - I don't expect someone to give me them for nothing, and I certainly don't rip them off...

Phil A.

Feb 28, 2008, 11:07 AM

I don't see how your self-righteousness is relevant in this case. You're telling me you'd feel guilty if you bought a single user version, then bought another computer and used the same copy? I suppose you'd go and buy another single user or sell the single user on ebay and buy a family pack. Good on you. I'm sure you'll get into heaven no problem. :rolleyes:

I don't see how complying with an EULA is somehow being self-righteous. I wouldn't feel guilty in your scenario because if I bought a new machine (as I did with my Air), it would come with Leopard on anyway so there would be no need to buy another copy. If I bought a second hand machine without Leopard and only had a single user copy in use on another machine, I would indeed buy another license, because that's what the EULA specifies you have to do.
BTW I'm an atheist so Heaven doesn't really figure in my plans a great deal. I am, however, a software developer who has suffered loss of income through people breaking EULAs so I would never do it to another company...

dejo

Feb 28, 2008, 11:07 AM

Some individuals are students with barely enough money to function but need a mac for educational necessity.
Being a student is not an excuse for anything, period.

P.S. Don't make me whip out the entitlement t-shirt!

Consultant

Feb 28, 2008, 11:15 AM

Leopard Family Pack
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Mal

Feb 28, 2008, 12:34 PM

dukebound85

Feb 28, 2008, 12:55 PM

Being a student is not an excuse for anything, period.

P.S. Don't make me whip out the entitlement t-shirt!

oh yay, spending tens of thousands to go to school and work a ton of hours for nothing at all except for a piece of paper that says you got a degree is the same as working and getting paid.........i dont think it is

i feel students deserve a break...

dsnort

Feb 28, 2008, 12:57 PM

I'll be upgrading to Leopard soon, and I will buy the family pack, for three reasons

1. It's the honest and decent thing to do. That's something I value, YMMV.

2. At the moment Apple doesn't seem to aggressively pursue software piracy of this nature. Doesn't mean they might not start tomorrow.

3. I have a recurring nightmare where Steve Jobs shows up at my house and beats me mercilessly about the head and neck with a G4 iMac before banishing me forever to the M$ Express Train to Computational Mediocrity. ( My doctor said the meds would stop the dreams, but I know he's a liar!)

Perhaps you also bought it with a real, steady income via a stable career. Some individuals are students with barely enough money to function but need a mac for educational necessity. But I guess they should spend the extra $125 (after student discounts, since Family isn't discounted) to install on multiple macs they own :rolleyes:, or their fiancee's device, etc. Not that hard a concept to understand either, eh?

Sooo... you can't afford the $125 price difference for the family pack, but you can afford multiple Macs? I can't put my finger on it, but something seems awry here.

Macky-Mac

Feb 28, 2008, 01:00 PM

Well yeah that person is my girlfriend... so um... what happens if I share them with her?

once she gets what she wants from ya, she'll probably dump you

Eraserhead

Feb 28, 2008, 01:05 PM

Perhaps you also bought it with a real, steady income via a stable career. Some individuals are students with barely enough money to function but need a mac for educational necessity. But I guess they should spend the extra $125 (after student discounts, since Family isn't discounted) to install on multiple macs they own :rolleyes:, or their fiancee's device, etc. Not that hard a concept to understand either, eh?

Why if you are so "poor" do you need multiple Macs then? Come on, if you can afford multiple computers you can afford the family pack :rolleyes:.

xlii

Feb 28, 2008, 01:12 PM

I heard that the last time this happened ( sharing a single user license Leopard disk with another person) a black helicopter landed on that person's front lawn... Five Steve Jobs jump out... beat the person senseless and took away all their Macs...

Then again... you don't have to listen to me.

bamaworks

Feb 28, 2008, 01:19 PM

Why if you are so "poor" do you need multiple Macs then? Come on, if you can afford multiple computers you can afford the family pack :rolleyes:.

Really? Perhaps you received a notebook from your parents, and along the way needed a more powerful machine for Graphic design / video editing? This is not an uncommon situation, I'm sure you feel holier than thou because it's easy to afford and you're in the situation. But I guess you're right, the average student is only 20,000 in debt. We should kick them in the ribs a little more, if possible.

And for the record, I never said that person was me, I'm speaking hypothetically here in defense of others. It's attitudes like this that make bitter cynics out of fine young people.

Josheek

Feb 28, 2008, 01:20 PM

Leopard Family Pack
slightly under $150 shipped!
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wow, thanx for this site... definitely worth looking into:)

dizastor

Feb 28, 2008, 01:22 PM

What happens if I share my Leopard installation discs with another person?

steve jobs will come to your house in the middle of the night, press a pillow firmly over your face until you stop breathing.

it will look like natural causes.

it always does.

bamaworks

Feb 28, 2008, 01:28 PM

Being a student is not an excuse for anything, period.

P.S. Don't make me whip out the entitlement t-shirt!

Classy attitude. As I said above, if possible we need to kick students, people trying to make something of themselves, in the ribs early and often as possible.

Eraserhead

Feb 28, 2008, 01:39 PM

Really? Perhaps you received a notebook from your parents, and along the way needed a more powerful machine for Graphic design / video editing?

OK, so you need two machines. What about the other 5?

But I guess you're right, the average student is only 20,000 in debt. We should kick them in the ribs a little more, if possible.

FWIW I'm a student too.

bamaworks

Feb 28, 2008, 01:55 PM

I only have one machine :). Please see my comment in an above post.

Edit: Not to mention, being from Europe, you typically have far less debt than students in the US...

Eraserhead

Feb 28, 2008, 01:59 PM

I only have one machine :). Please see my comment in an above post.

EDIT: I'm a fool I confused you with benlangdon

cohibadad

Feb 28, 2008, 02:03 PM

In the end Apple is a Hardware company, if Apple cared a whole lot they would have it serial numbered with a lengthy authentication process.

Yikes. I hope :apple: doesn't have to do this just to show they care.

dsnort

Feb 28, 2008, 02:13 PM

Classy attitude. As I said above, if possible we need to kick students, people trying to make something of themselves, in the ribs early and often as possible.

While I'm not in favor of kicking anyone at any time, I fail to see what this has to do with the issue.

Graduating from college owing $20k, but with a degree that opens up limitless possibilities in your life is a GOOD thing. I owed more than that when I graduated, and still consider my college years as the best times of my life. We students were poor as church mice, often stayed up all night studying or finishing a project, worked odd part time jobs, and had the time of our lives! I feel so much more fortunate than my high school friends that didn't get to go to college because they couldn't even borrow the money.

Besides, it's not like 10.4 Tiger quit working when Leopard was introduced! AFAIK at this time Tiger will run any app that Leopard will. Even Panther is good for most things.

And by the way, when I went to college we poor kids used spiral notebooks, while the rich kids had mini cassette recorders. If you needed a computer for anything, you went to the schools computer lab and queued up. Somehow, we managed to get by.

dejo

Feb 28, 2008, 02:14 PM

Classy attitude. As I said above, if possible we need to kick students, people trying to make something of themselves, in the ribs early and often as possible.
Yeah, because students are the only ones on the planet that are trying to make something of themselves and have no money? Hey, your being a student is great, trying to make something of yourself is a commendable goal, and not having as much disposable income as you'd like is unfortunate. But I am always dissappointed when people use being a student as an excuse for anything. Every student is in a different situtation and should not just be grouped into one entire bundle. If you really want to buy something and need it, student or not, I'm sure you can come up with a way to pay for it. And you may even learn an important life lesson in the process: that sometimes things are worth earning.

jeremy.king

Feb 28, 2008, 02:38 PM

once she gets what she wants from ya, she'll probably dump you

But not before she shares her STDs! :eek::eek::D

xraydoc

Feb 28, 2008, 07:05 PM

Classy attitude. As I said above, if possible we need to kick students, people trying to make something of themselves, in the ribs early and often as possible.

So students should get a free pass to break the law, while the rest of us need to comply? I don't think so.

The right thing to do is to buy the family pack if you want to install Leopard on multiple machines. Apple also sells a family pack version of iWork (and iLife, too, I think).

If you get a student discount on the single user license, then buy two instead of the $199 Leopard family pack.

What you choose to do is up to you.