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bluedoggiant
Feb 28, 2008, 05:37 PM
So theres 2 accounts on the imac (in sig), and the admin isnt used, just for turning on the parental controls, i have the web filter on, i dont have anything else. But from me observing, its been sucking up the power out of my imac lately, and its really showing when encoding video and stuff!! its constantly going up at 100%!!! even though i quit safari and ichat (it records logs). the webfilter process barely does anything, but the parental controls process is just ridiculous, i mean, its like the speed of a .8ghz machine. Is there something wrong going on? cuz i dont think activity monitor and istat are incorrect.



yellow
Feb 28, 2008, 05:40 PM
And if you turn off parental controls, does it stop that behavior?

bluedoggiant
Feb 29, 2008, 11:21 AM
And if you turn off parental controls, does it stop that behavior?

Like my dad will ever believe me:mad:!! He is really serious about it, i really, do not know ANYONE my age who has parental controls on. I mean its my iMac, and I can't even control it, which sucks pretty bad, I think im going to talk to him next weekend, i dont have time on the weekdays, maybe he'll be a little more lenient, and take it off, so ill see, cuz i cant take random 100% shoot ups.

Plus its using up RAM and virtual memory

fandsw
Feb 29, 2008, 12:06 PM
I have Parental Controls on for my 2 kids' accounts, and set it so they can only get to Safari with web filtering turned on. I have seen no slowdowns on their accounts.....

Consultant
Feb 29, 2008, 12:12 PM
Open Activity Monitor
Show All Processes
Sort by % CPU

bluedoggiant
Feb 29, 2008, 01:36 PM
I have Parental Controls on for my 2 kids' accounts, and set it so they can only get to Safari with web filtering turned on. I have seen no slowdowns on their accounts.....

from day to day tasks, no, and only safari. but doing processor intensive stuff, then you may notice something

Open Activity Monitor
Show All Processes
Sort by % CPU

I know that...thats how i got this info!!

yellow
Feb 29, 2008, 02:56 PM
So, what exactly is your question here?

itsallinurhead
Feb 29, 2008, 03:20 PM
Weird that your processor "like goes up to 100%" when you are encoding video. :rolleyes:

Consultant
Feb 29, 2008, 03:34 PM
So, what exactly is your question here?

He wants to find a way to pursued his parents to remove the parental controls they set on the imac.

yellow
Feb 29, 2008, 03:56 PM
He wants to find a way to pursued his parents to remove the parental controls they set on the imac.

Yes, I know that, I just want him to say it so I can close this thread. ;)

But now you've ruined the surprise.

bluedoggiant
Mar 1, 2008, 11:30 AM
So, what exactly is your question here?

Is this normal???

GirthP
Mar 1, 2008, 11:35 AM
I can't seem to control my parents with the controls here....

I need a mute and a pause function at least!!!

tdhurst
Mar 1, 2008, 11:41 AM
So when you're encoding video the processor usage shoots up to 100% and stays there?

And you think it's the parental controls?

bluedoggiant
Mar 1, 2008, 02:48 PM
So when you're encoding video the processor usage shoots up to 100% and stays there?

And you think it's the parental controls?

no no no. The "parentalcontrols" process is shooting up to 100%. and stays there for a couple minutes. it goes down to 3.3% percent, normal, around there, and stays there for like a few moments, then, oo, wait, it goes up to 100%!! and once it went up to 104%

pjarvi
Mar 1, 2008, 04:22 PM
Don't worry, you got 2 cores in that bad boy. So long as it doesn't beg it to 200%, you're OK. ;)

HLdan
Mar 1, 2008, 04:30 PM
Like my dad will ever believe me:mad:!! He is really serious about it, i really, do not know ANYONE my age who has parental controls on. I mean its my iMac, and I can't even control it, which sucks pretty bad, I think im going to talk to him


Really? Well how old R U? Coming from your point of view it sounds like you are too old for your dad to have YOUR computer set to lock you out of certain things so how old R U and why is your dad protecting YOUR computer from YOU?

swmr
Mar 1, 2008, 05:21 PM
Like my dad will ever believe me:mad:!! He is really serious about it, i really, do not know ANYONE my age who has parental controls on. I mean its my iMac, and I can't even control it, which sucks pretty bad...

My sophomore year in high school, I got my first computer to call my own. If was payed for by my father, and it was in my room. (At the same time, my brother also got a computer...he is two years older.) It was the dell specced in my sig, and it had Norton Internet parental controls and web filters. I also did not have administrative accounts.

After about 14 months, my dad decided that I have never given him a reason to not trust me. He gave me admin rights, and from then on I have always been in control of the computer. Two months ago I even took off his admin account because he hadn't used it since the day he changed my account, and he could not remember his password.

The MBP specced in my sig was purchased by my dad for me last Tuesday. It is going to be my college laptop, and my dad was actually ready to buy it several months ago. I was the one waiting for the updates. When we got home, I plugged it in, and ran the setup. I offered to give him his own user account but he said it was not needed and he has not even used the computer yet.

The point I am trying to make is that maybe with some time and patience your father may decide that it is reasonable to remove parental controls. I am a senior now, and my dad asks me for advice before he makes any change or purchase even remotely related to electronics. He has come a long way since he gave me admin rights, and I think that your dad will come to his senses too.

PS. Because of almost everything listed above, when I talked to my dad about buying a MBP for college, he loved the idea and research I did so much that his next computer will either me a iMac or a 17"MBP.

Now, sorry I can't help with your actual problem...

bluedoggiant
Mar 2, 2008, 10:40 AM
Don't worry, you got 2 cores in that bad boy. So long as it doesn't beg it to 200%, you're OK. ;)

Haha, thanks, but it still bugs me, then ill be having 1 core cuz the other is used up!!! 1 core is so 7 years ago.

My sophomore year in high school, I got my first computer to call my own. If was payed for by my father, and it was in my room. (At the same time, my brother also got a computer...he is two years older.) It was the dell specced in my sig, and it had Norton Internet parental controls and web filters. I also did not have administrative accounts.

After about 14 months, my dad decided that I have never given him a reason to not trust me. He gave me admin rights, and from then on I have always been in control of the computer. Two months ago I even took off his admin account because he hadn't used it since the day he changed my account, and he could not remember his password.

The MBP specced in my sig was purchased by my dad for me last Tuesday. It is going to be my college laptop, and my dad was actually ready to buy it several months ago. I was the one waiting for the updates. When we got home, I plugged it in, and ran the setup. I offered to give him his own user account but he said it was not needed and he has not even used the computer yet.

The point I am trying to make is that maybe with some time and patience your father may decide that it is reasonable to remove parental controls. I am a senior now, and my dad asks me for advice before he makes any change or purchase even remotely related to electronics. He has come a long way since he gave me admin rights, and I think that your dad will come to his senses too.

PS. Because of almost everything listed above, when I talked to my dad about buying a MBP for college, he loved the idea and research I did so much that his next computer will either me a iMac or a 17"MBP.

Now, sorry I can't help with your actual problem...

I hope I am the same case!!

Really? Well how old R U? Coming from your point of view it sounds like you are too old for your dad to have YOUR computer set to lock you out of certain things so how old R U and why is your dad protecting YOUR computer from YOU?

I am 14. And I don't know why.

cantthinkofone
Mar 2, 2008, 10:47 AM
i didn't tell you this but if you have access to the OSX disk you should know what to do from there if you want full control.

tdhurst
Mar 2, 2008, 10:56 AM
i didn't tell you this but if you have access to the OSX disk you should know what to do from there if you want full control.

Dude, he's 14. Parental controls were implemented for a reason...

pulsewidth947
Mar 2, 2008, 01:54 PM
i didn't tell you this but if you have access to the OSX disk you should know what to do from there if you want full control.

Except when his dad tries to use the computer and discovers the password doesn't work :)

bluedoggiant
Mar 2, 2008, 01:56 PM
i didn't tell you this but if you have access to the OSX disk you should know what to do from there if you want full control.

I know, password reset, but my dad would find out, this is off topic, my question is, not answered yet, is this normal?

GirthP
Mar 2, 2008, 01:57 PM
buy an external firewire disk, install os x on that, and boot off of that sans parental controls...

or just obey

Maxiseller
Mar 2, 2008, 02:02 PM
You're 14. Your dad has every right.

More to the point, everybody knows that you'll be looking at pr0n (don't try and deny, it's natural). There's stuff on the net that will mess with your mind. Seriously.

Just wait a couple of years, and you'll be ok. Maybe you can earn your dads trust.

mr.light
Mar 2, 2008, 02:05 PM
Is what normal? Your question not being answered or the way your computer is behaving?:D

Sorry. Had to say it!

But I have no idea if it is normal. But if I had locked my daughters computer and found that she was trying to unlock it behind my back I would be furious and likely remove the computer for a while.

dukebound85
Mar 2, 2008, 02:10 PM
your own computer at 14 must be nice. my family didnt have anything except an apple plus until i was 15-16 back in 2001!


as far as it being normal, it probably is and i wouldnt worry about it anymore if i were you

bluedoggiant
Mar 2, 2008, 02:47 PM
your own computer at 14 must be nice. my family didnt have anything except an apple plus until i was 15-16 back in 2001!


as far as it being normal, it probably is and i wouldnt worry about it anymore if i were you

Ok, it will eventually be removed, but good to know its should be normal. Thanks.

Bonsai1214
Mar 2, 2008, 02:50 PM
if you're encoding movies and doing other things that are cpu stressing, its alright for 100% usage. some programs, like starcraft use 100% cpu when its idling because its programmed that way. dunno if parental controls are like that though.

anyways, if you're 14, your parents have every right to put on parental controls. make the argument later when you're 17. it'll hold more water :D

HLdan
Mar 2, 2008, 03:37 PM
I am 14. And I don't know why.

I don't mean to sound harsh but at 14 it's totally understandable that your dad has your account set up under Parental Controls. Now, of course it depends on the kid in question but at 14 you are not a grown up and I would set parental controls on my kids as well until they are at least 16 or if they gave me a reason not to trust them then even older than that.

kockgunner
Mar 2, 2008, 04:04 PM
i don't really think it's strange to have parental controls on at age 14 -- its a curious age :D my situation is worse however. my parents wont let me spend my own money. i was gonna buy a refurb mbp but found out my mom put all my money in a fixed deposit thing without my permission and now i cant use my own money. she tells me to get a job before buying a new computer even though the money in my bank account was earned by myself specifically for buying a new computer. suddenly she tells me the money is for my tuition. i dont know what she wants, i worked hard this semester and got the first straight A's of my life :o. even more sad, my younger bro has more money than me and he's in grade 10. im 18 going to university and i have no control over my personal assets. oh and did i tell you that my mom took away my psp and gave it away even though i bought it myself with the money from my job as a paper boy? talk about ruining a kid's life. anyone think THIS is unreasonable?

tdhurst
Mar 2, 2008, 04:21 PM
i don't really think it's strange to have parental controls on at age 14 -- its a curious age :D my situation is worse however. my parents wont let me spend my own money. i was gonna buy a refurb mbp but found out my mom put all my money in a fixed deposit thing without my permission and now i cant use my own money. she tells me to get a job before buying a new computer even though the money in my bank account was earned by myself specifically for buying a new computer. suddenly she tells me the money is for my tuition. i dont know what she wants, i worked hard this semester and got the first straight A's of my life :o. even more sad, my younger bro has more money than me and he's in grade 10. im 18 going to university and i have no control over my personal assets. oh and did i tell you that my mom took away my psp and gave it away even though i bought it myself with the money from my job as a paper boy? talk about ruining a kid's life. anyone think THIS is unreasonable?

Your parents sound pretty unreasonable, unless there's more to the story than you're telling us. While I don't find it unfair that your parents would expect you to save for tuition, taking control of your cash without talking to you about it seems harsh.

And what's the story with the psp?

thesdx
Mar 2, 2008, 04:22 PM
You're 14. Your dad has every right.

More to the point, everybody knows that you'll be looking at pr0n (don't try and deny, it's natural). There's stuff on the net that will mess with your mind. Seriously.

Just wait a couple of years, and you'll be ok. Maybe you can earn your dads trust.

Looking at porn is not natural, it's a choice that can be made. You shouldn't say "Everyone knows", and prejudge someone that you haven't even met. As for the OP, you should probably talk to your dad about removing it. If he knows you're trustworthy and have never had any issues with bad sites in the past, he would (should) remove it. Now, I'm 13, and have owned computers since I was about 10. My parents have never installed web filtering, because they trust me. Now, it could just be that my parents know me well and don't get suspicious. But, if you tell your dad to check the logs and see that you haven't tried to visit bad sites, he should realize that you're trustworthy, and remove the filter.

kockgunner
Mar 2, 2008, 04:28 PM
Your parents sound pretty unreasonable, unless there's more to the story than you're telling us. While I don't find it unfair that your parents would expect you to save for tuition, taking control of your cash without talking to you about it seems harsh.

And what's the story with the psp?

well im a religious person and i attend fellowship every friday. but once, i just came home from a day out with my friends and was exhausted and was reluctant to go to church. i had an argument with my parents and then my mom rushed up to my room and took my psp. i agree i shouldve went to church but taking away my hard earned psp and giving it away is just wrong

and thanks for not instantly saying that im making all this stuff up. my story sounds ridiculous but its true. sometimes i feel my whole life is ridiculous lol. i just need somewhere to vent that's all

thesdx
Mar 2, 2008, 04:30 PM
well im a religious person and i attend fellowship every friday. but once, i just came home from a day out with my friends and was exhausted and was reluctant to go to church. i had an argument with my parents and then my mom rushed up to my room and took my psp. i agree i shouldve went to church but taking away my hard earned psp and giving it away is just wrong

and thanks for not instantly saying that im making all this stuff up. my story sounds ridiculous but its true. sometimes i feel my whole life is ridiculous lol. i just need somewhere to vent that's all

That's horrible. I could see if she took away your PSP, then gave it back a few days later. But, she gave it away??? :eek:

Bonsai1214
Mar 2, 2008, 06:28 PM
thats really unfortunate. i feel for you. like a time out from it i can understand, but giving it away (after you bought it) is unreasonable. i would have went to the person she gave it to and asked for it back.

by the way you say university, i'm guessing you're in the UK or europe?

kockgunner
Mar 2, 2008, 06:35 PM
thats really unfortunate. i feel for you. like a time out from it i can understand, but giving it away (after you bought it) is unreasonable. i would have went to the person she gave it to and asked for it back.

by the way you say university, i'm guessing you're in the UK or europe?

im from canada actually. what do you guys call university where you live?

tdhurst
Mar 2, 2008, 06:37 PM
well im a religious person and i attend fellowship every friday. but once, i just came home from a day out with my friends and was exhausted and was reluctant to go to church. i had an argument with my parents and then my mom rushed up to my room and took my psp. i agree i shouldve went to church but taking away my hard earned psp and giving it away is just wrong

and thanks for not instantly saying that im making all this stuff up. my story sounds ridiculous but its true. sometimes i feel my whole life is ridiculous lol. i just need somewhere to vent that's all

Yeah, I'd have HUGE problems with that. I'm not a religious person nor have I attended church more than once or twice a year, but I think religion and church groups are something that should ENHANCE lives, and never be used as a reason to punish.

I mean really, does church have anything to do with material possessions anyway? Missing fellowship has its own consequences that need not be punished.

Stories like this (please don't take offense) make me glad that my parents aren't religious. They let us make our own choices about church and I'm happy they did.

kockgunner
Mar 2, 2008, 06:55 PM
Yeah, I'd have HUGE problems with that. I'm not a religious person nor have I attended church more than once or twice a year, but I think religion and church groups are something that should ENHANCE lives, and never be used as a reason to punish.

I mean really, does church have anything to do with material possessions anyway? Missing fellowship has its own consequences that need not be punished.

Stories like this (please don't take offense) make me glad that my parents aren't religious. They let us make our own choices about church and I'm happy they did.

no offense taken. i actually appreciate that my parents are religious because church has made me a better person as a whole. but my parents didnt become more strict because this particular argument had to do with church, they are just like this. and i agree that church had nothing to do with material possessions this time around... that's why i was especially mad at my mom for taking away a random object just to make me feel bad

Bonsai1214
Mar 2, 2008, 11:46 PM
well, generally in the US (go figure you're my country neighbor..) we call it college instead of uni.

martychang
Mar 3, 2008, 12:02 AM
I'm a bit surprised at all this computer strictness from parents. I've had my own computers since I was about 12, and would've had them earlier if we could afford more than one computer for the family at the time. There's no way I'd be on the career path I am today and have the knowledge I do if I hadn't had full administrative control of my own machine for the time I have.

At the same time, I was raised by parents who believe restrictions are futile, and believe pretty much the same thing. I'm not restricting anything when/if I ever have kids, unless it directly relates to MY property.

Not to mention this thread title instantly aroused NERD RAGE in me, I hate sloppy monitoring processes that eat resources and violate privacy, no matter what the reason. It's why I'll never truly abide by Microsoft systems/solutions.

kockgunner
Mar 3, 2008, 12:42 AM
well, generally in the US (go figure you're my country neighbor..) we call it college instead of uni.

up here, college and university are 2 different things, college being a smaller institution (usually cheaper too) offering fewer courses

GirthP
Mar 3, 2008, 12:49 AM
up here, college and university are 2 different things, college being a smaller institution (usually cheaper too) offering fewer courses

That's true here too. University is usually a moniker affixed to schools where they offer a certain level of education. But, as I've seen from my local "Uni", that is hardly a good test of their offerings...

dukebound85
Mar 3, 2008, 02:15 AM
up here, college and university are 2 different things, college being a smaller institution (usually cheaper too) offering fewer courses

same here all bigger schools are universities and then we have junior colleges and community colleges which are smaller in scale

then within say kansas university for example you have the college of engineering, college of liberal arts, college of buisness, etc


but we also say college to mean university as a whole. confusing i know lol

bluedoggiant
Mar 3, 2008, 10:02 AM
Wow, the evolution of this thread is really hysterical!! All I asked if the cpu was going 100% from parentalcontrols was normal, and it turned into the weirdest thing ive imagined, im wowed at the human communication:p.

kockgunner
Mar 3, 2008, 05:58 PM
Wow, the evolution of this thread is really hysterical!! All I asked if the cpu was going 100% from parentalcontrols was normal, and it turned into the weirdest thing ive imagined, im wowed at the human communication:p.

lol i just noticed this too! i was about to apologise for kinda hi-jacking ur thread haha

idonotliketostu
Mar 3, 2008, 11:14 PM
Over the years, I've learned to suck it up.

Reasoning with parents are useless and in their minds (whether they are liberal or conservative or whatever) they always think they are right because they have more lifetime experience than us. My parents are very liberal by the way and when I was around 12 to 16 ish, they limited my computer use.

I am 22 now, in college, pay for my own apt and everything. When I come back to visit, my mom always tells me to get a haircut. Nags me till I do. I guess its their way of proclaiming authority. :rolleyes:

kockgunner
Mar 5, 2008, 11:41 PM
Ok, my parents were talking to me about getting my mac, but they have to drag everything. They take out this sheet of paper stating bad communication skills and start looking talking to me as if i were crazy. they spoke really slowly and every time i objected, even a with sigh, they would stop talking. Then calmly, they would say that i'm 'not ready to buy a mac'. this is ridiculous. when did buying a computer have to be such a big deal. let me remind you, i am 18 years old! This is absolutely pathetic. all this may sound stupid and playful over the internet but really, i just want to die. OMG!

Burnsey
Mar 6, 2008, 06:11 PM
Haha, thanks, but it still bugs me, then ill be having 1 core cuz the other is used up!!! 1 core is so 7 years ago.



I hope I am the same case!!



I am 14. And I don't know why.

at 14 you should just be happy you have a C2E Alu iMac. I'm second year College and I recently got my MBP (which your imac kills).

bluedoggiant
Mar 6, 2008, 07:44 PM
at 14 you should just be happy you have a C2E Alu iMac. I'm second year College and I recently got my MBP (which your imac kills).

Yeah I guess, I do a lot of video work, and the speed of encoding is nice, i also do web authoring, and little photoshop. and plus a C2E to last a long time