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signaturez
Feb 29, 2008, 02:22 AM
No doubt Macbook will be redesigned in the mid-year and my predictions it should comes with:

1. Penryn on Montevina Platform Core 2 Duo
2. Intel X4500HD (theoritically 2 fold of current X3100)
3. Brand new case (possibly aluminium)
4. 7200 rpm HD (optional)
5. 6MB L2 Cache (optional)

In Q2 2009, a year after the above release, we shall get:

1. Clarksfield (Nehalem) on Montevina Platform Quad Core
2. Dedicated Graphic / CPU+GPU (upcoming technology)
3. Still the same new case
4. 7200 rpm (standard) / Solid State Drive (affordable = price/reliability)
5. 8MB L3 Cache

Above is personal forecast.

To those who still waiting for June,
why not convince yourself to buy a MB now then upgrade to Clarksfield
about 16 months later?



slybeans
Feb 29, 2008, 03:19 AM
When does it end?

The holding off for better updates? :p

aneftp
Feb 29, 2008, 08:56 AM
I buy a new laptop every 2 years (my family members get very good used computer products).

However, the average consumer uses their computer for more than 5 years.

My sister still is using an old Pentium 3 600mhz with windows 2000 running and it over 8 1/2 years old and she's happy with it. It's not that she can't afford it. She and her husband make over 800K a year.

People on macrumors.com are not normal people. Most people do not care if a new processor/redesign is coming out in 4-5 months. The only time you truly see the public holding off on computer products is the months leading up to a new operating system release. (like Leopard or Windows Vista)

So we can wait and wait for new better things or just go out and buy it and get to enjoy the technology now.

Hankster
Feb 29, 2008, 09:27 AM
Every IT product you purchase will be outdated. If you think of things that way you may as well not purchase anything ever. Right now it is the BEST time to purchase a MB because of the upgraded line. If you're looking for a good deal the older models, which are still very good and work fine, are at a great deal.

dannyar
Feb 29, 2008, 09:36 AM
i wait for major updates. i did so with my white intel imac when i switched to the aluminum, and i will do so with my macbook when a worthy update comes along.

durant0s
Feb 29, 2008, 09:46 AM
No doubt Macbook will be redesigned in the mid-year and my predictions it should comes with:

1. Penryn on Montevina Platform Core 2 Duo
2. Intel X4500HD (theoritically 2 fold of current X3100)
3. Brand new case (possibly aluminium)
4. 7200 rpm HD (optional)
5. 6MB L2 Cache (optional)

In Q2 2009, a year after the above release, we shall get:

1. Clarksfield (Nehalem) on Montevina Platform Quad Core
2. Dedicated Graphic / CPU+GPU (upcoming technology)
3. Still the same new case
4. 7200 rpm (standard) / Solid State Drive (affordable = price/reliability)
5. 8MB L3 Cache

Above is personal forecast.

To those who still waiting for June,
why not convince yourself to buy a MB now then upgrade to Clarksfield
about 16 months later?

Quadcore available in the macbook 1 calendar year from now? I just don't see that. I think there will be a redesign mid year but I think your over estimating 09 updates. What good would the MBP be if the MB had an available quadcore? I am buying a macbook now though, and will probably try to sell it in early '09 and get a second gen montevina one.

signaturez
Feb 29, 2008, 01:34 PM
Quadcore available in the macbook 1 calendar year from now? I just don't see that. I think there will be a redesign mid year but I think your over estimating 09 updates. What good would the MBP be if the MB had an available quadcore? I am buying a macbook now though, and will probably try to sell it in early '09 and get a second gen montevina one.

:) dude, the roadmap for Nehalem was revealed 1 year ago.
lower end mobile processor: Auburndale will be 2 Core while higher end Clarksfield is gona be Quadcore.

In your opinion, you think in Q2 next year Apple will only install Auburndale in MB? that will be the major market trend 16 months from now... how long you have had the 2 Core? You don't like upgrade?

AuburnTiger
Feb 29, 2008, 01:57 PM
My new Macbook shipped out the DAY before the upgrades were available on Apple's website? Why am I not returning it? Because it was perfectly fine and desireable before I found about the updates; it isn't any less desireable now. Plus, just by calling Apple about it they gave me a $54 rebate. That money went toward a RAM upgrade.

Jpoon
Feb 29, 2008, 02:17 PM
I hear you man, I used my rebate towards a 4 gb ram upgrade (they owed me a 100 bucks due to the updates). I just see it as an excuse to warrant spending 100 bucks on RAM! I really don't think I'd be able to notice the difference in the Penryn anyways.

jnc
Feb 29, 2008, 02:17 PM
My new Macbook shipped out the DAY before the upgrades were available on Apple's website? Why am I not returning it? Because it was perfectly fine and desireable before I found about the updates; it isn't any less desireable now. Plus, just by calling Apple about it they gave me a $54 rebate. That money went toward a RAM upgrade.

You know you're perfectly eligible for a completely new model, right? Apple are getting off incredibly easy with that "gesture", $54 is nothing considering the addition of multi-touch, double vRAM and new chips... but eh, seems you've made your mind up.

cRuNcHiE
Feb 29, 2008, 02:28 PM
I just got what i think was a good deal from Apple refurb

649 inc delivery for a 2.2Ghz White macbook with 120Gb hdd and 1GB ram, superdrive

Im selling my XPS M1330 to replace with this and gonna use my 2.33ghz X1600 Macbook pro as a desktop replacement then maybe get a new MBP in june.

durant0s
Feb 29, 2008, 02:43 PM
:) dude, the roadmap for Nehalem was revealed 1 year ago.
lower end mobile processor: Auburndale will be 2 Core while higher end Clarksfield is gona be Quadcore.

In your opinion, you think in Q2 next year Apple will only install Auburndale in MB? that will be the major market trend 16 months from now... how long you have had the 2 Core? You don't like upgrade?

Actually I've had a quad-core in my PC since last May. I just don't think they would upgrade that fast after making major changes this summer. Just my opinion. I mean I'll be more then happy if they do all the things you mentioned, it would certainly increase my chance of upgrading.

ItTakesII
Feb 29, 2008, 05:09 PM
I am actually pretty happy that I probably won't have enough money to purchase my Macbook until around September :D By then it shall already have the June updates and maybe I'll even find some sweet deals at MacMall or something :D

fewture
Feb 29, 2008, 07:27 PM
with cooler temps, now is a good time to get a macbook.

Its essentially the same thing as the late 2007 MB Santa Rosa/Merom, but it should be cooler, a little more power efficient (if at all).

Apple may or may not upgrade MB to Montevina in May. Don't count on it. It might wait like last time (for SR) to wait 6 months before putting in Montevina

ironMonkey
Mar 1, 2008, 11:14 AM
I buy a new laptop every 2 years (my family members get very good used computer products).

However, the average consumer uses their computer for more than 5 years.

My sister still is using an old Pentium 3 600mhz with windows 2000 running and it over 8 1/2 years old and she's happy with it. It's not that she can't afford it. She and her husband make over 800K a year.

People on macrumors.com are not normal people. Most people do not care if a new processor/redesign is coming out in 4-5 months. The only time you truly see the public holding off on computer products is the months leading up to a new operating system release. (like Leopard or Windows Vista)

So we can wait and wait for new better things or just go out and buy it and get to enjoy the technology now.


BAHAHAHAH!!!
Nobody who earns $800,000/year owns a 8.5 year old computer. She doesn't want to be able to plug in her digital camera into her computer? I bet that 8 gig hard drive is really holding up.

David G.
Mar 1, 2008, 11:49 AM
My new Macbook shipped out the DAY before the upgrades were available on Apple's website? Why am I not returning it? Because it was perfectly fine and desireable before I found about the updates; it isn't any less desireable now. Plus, just by calling Apple about it they gave me a $54 rebate. That money went toward a RAM upgrade.

They only offered you $54?:eek: Apple was going to give me $150, I declined.:)

Lucascsula
Mar 1, 2008, 11:54 AM
My father just bought himself a Black MB at Best Buy for 1199.99. Great Deal.

Get em' while they last!

PowerFullMac
Mar 1, 2008, 12:53 PM
You forgot the Blu-ray drive and HD display!

Shackler
Mar 1, 2008, 01:23 PM
if i buy a macbook during the summer and a major update comes during Macworld '09 will i be able to return it.

Lucascsula
Mar 1, 2008, 01:29 PM
if i buy a macbook during the summer and a major update comes during Macworld '09 will i be able to return it.

Won't there always be updates? Might as well get the deals. Apple products are meant to last, so why wait? If you're that concerned about updates, buy a new Mac every 3-4 years. My two cents.

Shackler
Mar 1, 2008, 01:30 PM
Won't there always be updates? Might as well get the deals. Apple products are meant to last, so why wait? If you're that concerned about updates, buy a new Mac every 3-4 years. My two cents.

im just saying if there is no case redesign( really want alu.) by summer and there is one by Macworld will i be able to exchange it

sparkyms
Mar 1, 2008, 01:51 PM
You expect an exchange 6 months after you bought the laptop?

I don't fancy your chances

Stuart in Oz
Mar 1, 2008, 03:43 PM
BAHAHAHAH!!!
Nobody who earns $800,000/year owns a 8.5 year old computer. She doesn't want to be able to plug in her digital camera into her computer? I bet that 8 gig hard drive is really holding up.

I have a client of mine who is worth somewhere over $20 million dollars australian ($18 mill US) with the house and everything to match and he is still using a nearly 10 year old laptop with Windows 98. He just likes it and doesn't want to change.

What's more, when I went once into his office (he has a whole floor of a major office tower in the heart of Sydney) half of it was a high end server farm that support one of his businesses, tended to by a dozen tech specialists.

He just doesn't care that much!

taylorwilsdon
Mar 1, 2008, 03:51 PM
BAHAHAHAH!!!
Nobody who earns $800,000/year owns a 8.5 year old computer. She doesn't want to be able to plug in her digital camera into her computer? I bet that 8 gig hard drive is really holding up.

You're extraordinarily ignorant. I know plenty of people with a net income over $1,000,000 per year who either don't own a computer or are using computers from before the advent of LCD, many pushing 10+ years.

If you just check email once a week, you don't need a fancy computer. You need a box with a keyboard.

If you're doing HD video rendering 24x7, you need a new computer every time one is released.

iSovereign
Mar 1, 2008, 09:55 PM
My sister still is using an old Pentium 3 600mhz with windows 2000 running and it over 8 1/2 years old and she's happy with it. It's not that she can't afford it. She and her husband make over 800K a year.

ok??:rolleyes: anyways, with 800k a year, why wouldnt they just buy a new computer just to stay up to date?

heatmiser
Mar 1, 2008, 10:09 PM
ok??:rolleyes: anyways, with 800k a year, why wouldnt they just buy a new computer just to stay up to date?

See the part above about people on Macforums not reflecting how normal people use computers. Most people don't care how old their computers are as long as they do the things they ask them to do in a reasonable amount of time. The only people who worry about staying up to date are people who post on online forums dedicated to tracking releases of new computers. No one else cares.

HLdan
Mar 2, 2008, 01:01 AM
See the part above about people on Macforums not reflecting how normal people use computers. Most people don't care how old their computers are as long as they do the things they ask them to do in a reasonable amount of time. The only people who worry about staying up to date are people who post on online forums dedicated to tracking releases of new computers. No one else cares.

Agreed, this especially applies to the no-life geeks on MR that have to exchange their recently purchased computer for the one that was just released within 14 days after they bought theirs.
Most people just keep what they bought.

aneftp
Mar 2, 2008, 11:42 AM
BAHAHAHAH!!!
Nobody who earns $800,000/year owns a 8.5 year old computer. She doesn't want to be able to plug in her digital camera into her computer? I bet that 8 gig hard drive is really holding up.

Actually she still has the very old "Quantex" computer. I think it has a a 20GB hard drive and I put a very old CD-RW 4x CD burner a long time ago in it that she never uses. I hope people still remember Quantex. They used to be a good computer company until they ran out of business.

She did "upgrade" from a old 19 inch CRT monitor to a newer 19 inch LCD (non-wide screen) monitor 2 years ago

She does own a digital camera but takes the SD card to Costco to get it printed out.

She drives a Lexus LS with the mark levinson stereo system and she doesn't even know she has a high end product. Well, I mean she knows what a Lexus is but she doesn't know that the stereo system was a high end upgrade that my brother-in-law ordered. There are many people like my sister who just do not care what they have as long as it still works.

gregdrummeraz
Mar 2, 2008, 11:37 PM
Agreed, this especially applies to the no-life geeks on MR that have to exchange their recently purchased computer for the one that was just released within 14 days after they bought theirs.
Most people just keep what they bought.




reffering to me?

I had the same mac for a while before i bought this one, which was not supposed to be updated. I even waited till after macworld for the update which did nto happen.. I have case separation anyway so I will call apple and get my way!


by the way, I have had a macrumors account for 2 year and barley broke the double digit posts today, because I had a problem and came to a place where I thought it could be solved.:o

markrivers
Mar 2, 2008, 11:49 PM
here's the best design i ever saw!

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=446457

:D

ironMonkey
Mar 3, 2008, 06:50 PM
Actually she still has the very old "Quantex" computer. I think it has a a 20GB hard drive and I put a very old CD-RW 4x CD burner a long time ago in it that she never uses. I hope people still remember Quantex. They used to be a good computer company until they ran out of business.

She did "upgrade" from a old 19 inch CRT monitor to a newer 19 inch LCD (non-wide screen) monitor 2 years ago

She does own a digital camera but takes the SD card to Costco to get it printed out.

She drives a Lexus LS with the mark levinson stereo system and she doesn't even know she has a high end product. Well, I mean she knows what a Lexus is but she doesn't know that the stereo system was a high end upgrade that my brother-in-law ordered. There are many people like my sister who just do not care what they have as long as it still works.


That's the funniest post I've read all year. Drive around in a $70,000 car and keep some worthless piece of tech chillin on your desk. Pure comedy. USB 1.1 ftw!

DuRui
Mar 4, 2008, 12:20 AM
That's the funniest post I've read all year. Drive around in a $70,000 car and keep some worthless piece of tech chillin on your desk. Pure comedy. USB 1.1 ftw!

Fiat panda drives just as well as a Lexus.................... :rolleyes:

mosx
Mar 4, 2008, 12:26 AM
No doubt Macbook will be redesigned in the mid-year and my predictions it should comes with:

1. Penryn on Montevina Platform Core 2 Duo
2. Intel X4500HD (theoritically 2 fold of current X3100)
3. Brand new case (possibly aluminium)
4. 7200 rpm HD (optional)
5. 6MB L2 Cache (optional)

In Q2 2009, a year after the above release, we shall get:

1. Clarksfield (Nehalem) on Montevina Platform Quad Core
2. Dedicated Graphic / CPU+GPU (upcoming technology)
3. Still the same new case
4. 7200 rpm (standard) / Solid State Drive (affordable = price/reliability)
5. 8MB L3 Cache

Above is personal forecast.

To those who still waiting for June,
why not convince yourself to buy a MB now then upgrade to Clarksfield
about 16 months later?

I just want to point out that the X3100 was supposed to be about that much more powerful than the GMA 950 and we all know how that turned out. Worse in some situations, about the same in the rest.

IDANNY
Mar 4, 2008, 12:46 PM
I know many people that dont care when something new comes out, I work in a gated community were people's houses are all at least 800k, up to 2 mil, maybe even a little higher, they are not all driving around in brand new lexus's although they could be.

Lucascsula
Mar 4, 2008, 12:52 PM
Refurbished Black Macbooks are on the Apple website again: 1049

What a deal!

jbg232
Mar 4, 2008, 01:54 PM
I completely disagree with your forecasts on the future and here's WHY:

The macbook has to be of lesser quality than the macbook pro to ensure that macbook pro buyers don't buy a macbook. The macbook took FOREVER to get Santa Rosa. Why? Because Apple wanted to keep macbooks and MBPs distinct. Those specs, when they become available, will go to the MBP first, not the 2nd tier macbook. Especially quad-core, SSDs, and HD encoding (which even the MBP doesn't have now)! If you do not realize this - and I am not trying to sound harsh - but you are being ignorant of that marketing logic. Those specs are not happening. Period.

chrmjenkins
Mar 6, 2008, 02:50 PM
Just to clear things up:

Auburndale and Clarksfield are the two Nehalem mobile processors coming out. Clarksfield is presumably coming first, and is a native quad core (there is no dual-core version). Although it has not been confirmed, we are to assume it works with the Montevina chipset, as Calpella, the chipset for Nehalem, does not debut until Summer 09. However, if it comes at the same time as Auburndale, then there is no need for Montevina support as Calpella will be out.

Auburndale is a dual-core, integrated GPU part. It will take advantage of QuickPath support on Calpella when it is released, and will bring better integrated graphics to Macbook and Macbook Air users. I don't see the need for any of these chips ending up in MBPs, as they have dedicated graphics.