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MacRumors
Mar 6, 2008, 01:58 PM
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Apple's press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/03/06iphone.html) reveals that they've included some frequently requested features in iPhone 2.0 firmware:In addition to these new iPhone network and security features, the beta iPhone 2.0 software provides several new Mail features such as the ability to view PowerPoint attachments, in addition to Word and Excel, as well as the ability to mass delete and move email messages.
The final iPhone 2.0 software will be available as a free update in June.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/03/06/mass-email-move-and-delete-in-2-0-powerpoint/)



yayaba
Mar 6, 2008, 02:01 PM
Sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet.

Oh yeah, and sweet.

chr1s60
Mar 6, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Apple's press release (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/03/06iphone.html) reveals that they've included some frequently requested features in iPhone 2.0 firmware:
The final iPhone 2.0 software will be available as a free update in June.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/03/06/mass-email-move-and-delete-in-2-0-powerpoint/)

If this 2.0 that is due in June (most likely July) doesn't have MMS, I am going to find Steve and punch him.

thefourthpope
Mar 6, 2008, 02:09 PM
June is sounding like a great month!

justflie
Mar 6, 2008, 02:21 PM
Sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet sweet.

Oh yeah, and sweet.

Yea, what he said ^^.

overanalyzer
Mar 6, 2008, 02:23 PM
If this 2.0 that is due in June (most likely July) doesn't have MMS, I am going to find Steve and punch him.

Sigh. Despite them adding a ton of features, releasing the SDK beta, and potentially launching the beginning of a significant advancement in the future trends of technology and computing, someone always has to nitpick. Yes, MMS would be great, and yes a ton of phones have it, but this isn't just about building the best phone. It's about creating the framework for a new computing platform that could affect the future for decades to come.

kainjow
Mar 6, 2008, 02:32 PM
If you can view the PowerPoint presentations with the video out, that would make for some killer presentations. Just whip out your iPhone, connect the cable, and let the audience stare in awe.

MarkW19
Mar 6, 2008, 02:59 PM
MMS is old-school - and only necessary for communicating with people with "old" phones. Who wants to be limited to tiny low-res pictures that display differently both on different phones, and across different networks?!

Apple is looking to the future, and by omitting MMS, is encouraging us to use a less proprietary, and much more flexible, feature- and media-rich system for sending pictures on the move (and movies, when it happens) - email :-)

The question is not "when will Apple include MMS in the iPhone" - I doubt that will ever happen. They omitted it for a reason. The question is more like "when will the rest of the world catch up".

Yes, they may be a bit premature, but think floppy.

Just my opinion.

chr1s60
Mar 6, 2008, 03:00 PM
Sigh. Despite them adding a ton of features, releasing the SDK beta, and potentially launching the beginning of a significant advancement in the future trends of technology and computing, someone always has to nitpick. Yes, MMS would be great, and yes a ton of phones have it, but this isn't just about building the best phone. It's about creating the framework for a new computing platform that could affect the future for decades to come.

It's not nitpicking. I really don't care about the mail app. I am excited for the SDK, but it bothers me that MMS has been complained about since day one, yet Apple continues to ignore it even though they say they are addressing complaints. A new computing platform should be able to get pictures from friends/family in ways other than just email and syncing with another computer, don't ya think?

MMS is old-school - and only necessary for communicating with people with "old" phones. Who wants to be limited to tiny low-res pictures that display differently both on different phones, and across different networks?!

Apple is looking to the future, and by omitting MMS, is encouraging us to use a less proprietary, and much more flexible, feature- and media-rich system for sending pictures on the move (and movies, when it happens) - email :-)

The question is not "when will Apple include MMS in the iPhone" - I doubt that will ever happen. They omitted it for a reason. The question is more like "when will the rest of the world catch up".

Yes, they may be a bit premature, but think floppy.

Just my opinion.

Your argument completely goes against many features that iPhone has or lacks. If they are only using better tech and looking to the future, why EDGE not 3G? Why no GPS? Why no video recording? Still camera is not the future, nor is lack of real gps or 3G. Yes the argument may work for MMS, but for the phone as a whole, it doesn't stand up.

neven
Mar 6, 2008, 03:08 PM
A new computing platform should be able to get pictures from friends/family in ways other than just email and syncing with another computer, don't ya think?

Yes, such as web galleries. But not such as MMS. It's a dead technology as far as Apple cares. Give it up.

MarkW19
Mar 6, 2008, 03:14 PM
Your argument completely goes against many features that iPhone has or lacks. If they are only using better tech and looking to the future, why EDGE not 3G? Why no GPS? Why no video recording? Still camera is not the future, nor is lack of real gps or 3G. Yes the argument may work for MMS, but for the phone as a whole, it doesn't stand up.

Why no GPS? Battery life for a start, same (from Jobs' own mouth) for 3G (although I'm sure that will change later this year). But yes, I agree that the camera should be capable of recording video, but I'm sure it will come - upload-able to YouTube etc. like iMovie.

Yes, there are other features that would be great on the iPhone, but you mentioned MMS, and I'm just responding to that. The lack of GPS and 3G is barely comparable to the lack of MMS - Apple will have its own DIFFERENT reasons for omitting each of them.

As neven says, MMS is dead, or at least it should be :)

blueice02
Mar 6, 2008, 04:22 PM
As long as a majority of other phones still have and use MMS, it will remain a relevant complaint of iPhone owners. It is probably my #1 complaint. Why? Because everyone else I know have phones that support it and they use it. Instead of feeling like I have a superior phone, I'm left with a feeling of, "Look at what all I can do with my phone!" I say. To which my friends say, "Yeah, but can I send you pic?" "Well, um, no, not really." "Some phone." Like it or not, MMS does still play a role. Call it outdated all you want, but it is still used. Apple's omission of it is glaring, and quite frankly, haven't provided a good enough excuse why they don't. If it is not included in June, I may have to consider my phone choice.

Nermal
Mar 6, 2008, 04:30 PM
YES! Mass delete! That's probably the feature that I want the most :)

dondiego87
Mar 6, 2008, 04:48 PM
Lack of MMS and video are still dealbreakers for me. I don't consider myself a nitpicker because I still REALLY REALLY REALLY lust after the iPhone, I just can't bring myself to do it because I know I would miss those.

Regarding MMS... As long as I use it at least once a week, and none of my friends have an iPhone or anything capable of receiving emails (the only other way to send photos using the iPhone), it's not a "dead" technology to me.

The lack of video is just plain dumb to me. You can't even lean on the "dead technology" argument for this one.

JMax1
Mar 6, 2008, 04:58 PM
If this 2.0 that is due in June (most likely July) doesn't have MMS, I am going to find Steve and punch him.

You should pie him like what happened to Billy Gates. It's funnier and you'll get in less trouble

http://blog.dreamhost.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/gates-cream-pie-big.jpg

chr1s60
Mar 6, 2008, 06:58 PM
Why no GPS? Battery life for a start, same (from Jobs' own mouth) for 3G (although I'm sure that will change later this year). But yes, I agree that the camera should be capable of recording video, but I'm sure it will come - upload-able to YouTube etc. like iMovie.

Yes, there are other features that would be great on the iPhone, but you mentioned MMS, and I'm just responding to that. The lack of GPS and 3G is barely comparable to the lack of MMS - Apple will have its own DIFFERENT reasons for omitting each of them.

As neven says, MMS is dead, or at least it should be :)

I will agree with you that MMS is very slowly on it's way out the door, but it isn't dead yet. The way to get rid of an old technology is not to completely shut it out, instead you slowly move away from it. If Apple did the same thing with their computers, new operating systems and software would ONLY work on the most current models available, no support for PPC or earlier versions of the Intel chips... those would simply be an old, dead technology. Apple usually moves away from old technology slowly because even though something like PPC is a dead technology, a lot of people still use them. It may be old and dying, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't have support for it. Get what I am saying?

arkmannj
Mar 6, 2008, 10:19 PM
I'm hoping 1st week of june so it can be a nice birthday present :D

X38
Mar 7, 2008, 12:22 AM
I will agree with you that MMS is very slowly on it's way out the door, but it isn't dead yet. The way to get rid of an old technology is not to completely shut it out, instead you slowly move away from it. If Apple did the same thing with their computers, new operating systems and software would ONLY work on the most current models available, no support for PPC or earlier versions of the Intel chips... those would simply be an old, dead technology. Apple usually moves away from old technology slowly because even though something like PPC is a dead technology, a lot of people still use them. It may be old and dying, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't have support for it. Get what I am saying?


MMS already exists while video record and real GPS exist in prototype form for jailbroken iphones. The GPS guys for one (http://www.gomite.com/faq.html) have already said they were waiting for the SDK to put out a legit version. I'm sure somebody will do legit versions of MMS & video record just as soon as 2.0 is out.

ijerry
Mar 7, 2008, 08:29 AM
give it a few days/weeks and get the beta off a torrent site lol. thats what im going to do for now. :D

:apple:

nanoboy
Mar 7, 2008, 07:53 PM
Does that mean .keynote and .pages files can also be displayed on the iphone? Please?