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wdlove
Nov 1, 2003, 08:15 PM
The oldest person in the world died at 116 years of age. Kamato Hongo said that not 'moping around' is the key. A positive attitude. She was famous in Japan for staying awake for 2 days and then sleeping for 2 days.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/2599443/detail.html



revenuee
Nov 1, 2003, 08:43 PM
awake 2 , sleep 2.. not a bad idea... i do... away for 1.5, sleep 3 hours, continue pattern for 4 more days, then sleep for 20 hours... LOL

ya i'm not hitting 116

rainman::|:|
Nov 1, 2003, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by revenuee
awake 2 , sleep 2.. not a bad idea... i do... away for 1.5, sleep 3 hours, continue pattern for 4 more days, then sleep for 20 hours... LOL

ya i'm not hitting 116

it is said that albert einstein, later in his life, developed a system of 2-3 hour napping when he felt tired, and working the rest of the time, so he never had long sleeps... just life with a lot of catnaps. i couldn't do it, i would feel tired every time i got up, eventually i'd sleep to death.

:)
pnw

revenuee
Nov 1, 2003, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
it is said that albert einstein, later in his life, developed a system of 2-3 hour napping when he felt tired, and working the rest of the time, so he never had long sleeps... just life with a lot of catnaps. i couldn't do it, i would feel tired every time i got up, eventually i'd sleep to death.

:)
pnw

it's not bad... it gets hard near the end of the week... especially if you want to go out friday night... and your exhausted ... thats why i like to go to bed early thursday night, and wake up late friday... that way I'm well rested for friday night.. hehe:D

evil
Nov 1, 2003, 10:09 PM
i wouldnt call her the oldest person in the world anymore.

MrMacMan
Nov 2, 2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by evil
i wouldnt call her the oldest person in the world anymore.

Indeed what do you call the formerly oldest person in the world...

:rolleyes: :confused:

FightTheFuture
Nov 2, 2003, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by paulwhannel
it is said that albert einstein, later in his life, developed a system of 2-3 hour napping when he felt tired, and working the rest of the time, so he never had long sleeps...

i think leonardo da vinci did something similar to this. more like sleep 20 minutes every 4 hours. maybe it helped his creative process by not having to worry about something as insignificant as sleeping when you feel tired.

i would like to take a nap during my lunch break. but i would get cranky for the rest of the day.

here's a picture of da vinci as a woman::D

kiwi_the_iwik
Nov 2, 2003, 04:13 AM
Peoples biorhythms work on a 4-hourly pattern. If you get a multiple of 4 hours of sleep (i.e. 4, 8, 12, etc) you feel more refreshed than if you slept out of that sequence (i.e. 3, 9, 11, etc).

It's a method used to great advantage during big ocean-going yacht races - such as the Whitbread Round-The-World race - where a crew would "shift-change" every 5 hours (and considering it would take around a half an hour to get out of your wet kit - and to put it back on - there's where you get your 4 hours of rest).

revenuee
Nov 2, 2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Indeed what do you call the formerly oldest person in the world...

:rolleyes: :confused:



i don't think there is a word for it

just "formerly oldest person in the world".

skymac
Nov 2, 2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by FightTheFuture
i think leonardo da vinci did something similar to this. more like sleep 20 minutes every 4 hours. maybe it helped his creative process by not having to worry about something as insignificant as sleeping when you feel tired.


There was an episode of Seinfeld when Kramer tried to do that but it did'nt work very well and he ended up in the hudson river. it was very funny.

revenuee
Nov 2, 2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by skymac
There was an episode of Seinfeld when Kramer tried to do that but it did'nt work very well and he ended up in the hudson river. it was very funny.

That was a great episode

I once heard from my teacher when we were doing how people learn, that if you sleep less then 3 hours your legally insane... any takers?

wdlove
Nov 2, 2003, 01:50 PM
I one that needs my 8 hours of sleep. So according to kiwi_the_iwik I'm Ok with my biorhythms.

Now I wonder who has the title of the oldest person in the world. Here is a former still one of the oldest in the world, Jeanne Louise Calment was born in Arles, France on February 21, 1875 was 122 when she died in 1997.

http://www.wowzone.com/calment.htm

revenuee
Nov 2, 2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
I one that needs my 8 hours of sleep. So according to kiwi_the_iwik I'm Ok with my biorhythms.

Now I wonder who has the title of the oldest person in the world. Here is a former still one of the oldest in the world, Jeanne Louise Calment was born in Arles, France on February 21, 1875 was 122 when she died in 1997.

http://www.wowzone.com/calment.htm

now there was a women that could say she's seen it all

2 world wars, korea, vietnam, rise and fall of communism in russia, the tv, the radio the computer

what am i saying, those happened when she was well into her 30 early 40 and beyond

wow, thats incredible

carrington
Nov 2, 2003, 04:04 PM
I suspect foul play!

Anybody know the whereabouts of the second oldest person in the world at the time? Fame is a powerful motive... ;)

jxyama
Nov 2, 2003, 04:26 PM
i knew a guy who did the da vinci sleeping schedule for years... at least 3 years.

he slept for 15 min. every 4 hours. that's an hour and a half sleep a day.

he worked on getting multiple PhD's, last i remember, he had two PhD's, and about 5 Masters degrees. and most of the time while he was in school, he worked full time for a company. his only requirement was that the company be flexible in his work hours... :rolleyes:

he didn't have an apartment - if you need only 15 min. of peace to sleep every few hours, who needs bed? he slept in his car, office, etc. and used rec. center's shower...

he was a strange guy indeed, but was pretty healthy. he wasn't exactly sleep deprived...

bennetsaysargh
Nov 2, 2003, 06:59 PM
i want to be the oldest person in the world one day. maybe by next year i can be! if i work hard enough on my aging machine, i can fulfill my dream!

who is the new oldest person in the world now and how old are they?

alset
Nov 2, 2003, 08:43 PM
I read an article in Discover Magazine about the aging process. We are gaining about two years per decade to life expectancy. Scientists debate whether we will be able to sustain it (most of the gain is from treating early age disease and later heart failure) or if geriatric care is leveling off. Some say children born today may live to 150 and beyond.

Very interesting article. It's the cover story of the current issue, if anyone is interested.

Dan

voicegy
Nov 2, 2003, 10:35 PM
Bah! We'll ALL live FOREVER thanks to this:

http://www.alexchiu.com/eternallife/index.html

(posted previously by iGAV here:)
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=44889

TimDaddy
Nov 3, 2003, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by alset
We are gaining about two years per decade to life expectancy...(most of the gain is from treating early age disease and later heart failure)... Dan

I wonder how much of it is simply due to third world countries gaining access to the technologies in medicine that we already have. In the future, will "really old people" be any older than the "really old people" of today, or will poorer countries just start living closer to todays average, thus brining the average up? The U.S. even has some catching up to do, as Europeans seem to live longer. Then, when the U.S. catches up, those of us in Kentucky will catch up ten to fifteen years later.

Datazoid
Nov 3, 2003, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Indeed what do you call the formerly oldest person in the world...

:rolleyes: :confused:

Dead?

:rolleyes:

crap freakboy
Nov 3, 2003, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by MrMacman
Indeed what do you call the formerly oldest person in the world...

:rolleyes: :confused:

dead?

edit:that'll teach me to read the full thread in future;)

jxyama
Nov 3, 2003, 10:00 AM
as a side remark... according to the japanese news on this, the previously oldest person in the world (who recently passes away) was born in the same town as the previous, previously oldest person in the world (who died a while ago)...

hmm... they are from a town in kagoshima in kyushu - the western most main island in japan.

traditionally, okinawans - which is further southwest - are known to have long life... people in japan did some research and found that okinawans living away from okinawa don't live any longer than others, perhaps indicating that the lifestyle and diet has more to do with longevity than genetics...

rueyeet
Nov 3, 2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by revenuee
I once heard from my teacher when we were doing how people learn, that if you sleep less then 3 hours your legally insane... any takers?

I can only say that the people I know, or know of, that regularly get so little sleep are indeed a little....odd. I think less of that comes from the sleep deprivation and more from the fact that they are alone too much with their own thoughts while the world around them sleeps. Sooner or later this seems to lead to a peculiar disconnect from the things and thoughts of everyday people, but I'd hestitate to call it insanity.

Abraxsis
Nov 3, 2003, 12:34 PM
Peoples biorhythms work on a 4-hourly pattern. If you get a multiple of 4 hours of sleep (i.e. 4, 8, 12, etc) you feel more refreshed than if you slept out of that sequence (i.e. 3, 9, 11, etc).

Too bad "biorythms" is a meta-physical term/theory. From the psychological persepective biorythms are a load of crap (no offense meant mind you). The theory of biorythms is based mainly on the idea of a 24 hour day, and our socialization into the rituals involving the standardized day. Which is a fallacy. Now Circadian rythms are another thing, and we know that the body operates on a 25 hour day. But really this is neither here nor there seeing we are talking about sleep. While you sleep your brain moves through stages that cycle throughout the night. From alpha (lightest sleep) to REM sleep (deepest/dreaming sleep). This cycle takes from 2-3 hours with longer REM periods being toward the morning hours. If you nap, it should be no shorter than 2 hours or you can actually make yourself feel worse by waking during a REM cycle, which is what happens when you wake with an alarm clock and you feel REALLY groggy or dreamed images superimpose on reality.

alset
Nov 3, 2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by TimDaddy
I wonder how much of it is simply due to third world countries gaining access to the technologies in medicine that we already have.

To clarify: We gain about two years per decade in America; third world countries are not included in that statistic.

Dan

TimDaddy
Nov 4, 2003, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by alset
To clarify: We gain about two years per decade in America; third world countries are not included in that statistic.

Dan

Oh, well, then, Wow!

coopdog
Nov 4, 2003, 11:12 PM
Man, all the porn Kamato Hongo was in was A+ material. I will really miss not seeing any more of her hot and steamy shower scenes. :(

Doctor Q
Nov 15, 2003, 02:13 AM
Well, that didn't last long. After Kamato Hongo died, the world's oldest person was Mitoyo Kawate of Hiroshima, Japan, but she died yesterday (November 12, 2003) at age 114. She held the record for less than two weeks. The new recordholder is Charlotte Benkner, who doesn't even live in Japan. She's from North Lima, Ohio and will be 114 this Sunday (November 16, 2003).

themadchemist
Nov 15, 2003, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by revenuee
That was a great episode

I once heard from my teacher when we were doing how people learn, that if you sleep less then 3 hours your legally insane... any takers?

I guess that means that I spend a significant portion of time as a

CRAAAAZY MAN!

wdlove
Nov 15, 2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Well, that didn't last long. After Kamato Hongo died, the world's oldest person was Mitoyo Kawate of Hiroshima, Japan, but she died yesterday (November 12, 2003) at age 114. She held the record for less than two weeks. The new recordholder is Charlotte Benkner, who doesn't even live in Japan. She's from North Lima, Ohio and will be 114 this Sunday (November 16, 2003).

My thoughts go out to the family of Mitoyo Kawate, may she rest in peace. They have all really had full lives.

My B-Day wishes go out to Charlotte Benkner on her 114th on Sunday the 16th. My wife and I grew up just 20 miles from her home. Maybe some of her longevity will rub off on us!

Doctor Q
Nov 15, 2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by wdlove
My B-Day wishes go out to Charlotte Benkner on her 114th on Sunday the 16th. My wife and I grew up just 20 miles from her home. Maybe some of her longevity will rub off on us! Let's hope so! Were you once both buckeyes (http://www.extension.umn.edu/projects/yardandgarden/ygbriefs/h401chestnuts.html)?

wdlove
Nov 15, 2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Doctor Q
Let's hope so! Were you once both buckeyes (http://www.extension.umn.edu/projects/yardandgarden/ygbriefs/h401chestnuts.html)?

Yes, thank you. We grew up about 5 miles apart. Familes knew each other, more so my grandfather. Her father gave me a physical for work at Armco in 1968. We did not know each other till introduced in 1972.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/2636204/detail.html?treets=bos&tml=bos_health&ts=T&tmi=bos_health_1_12150111142003

MrMacMan
Nov 16, 2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Datazoid
Dead?

:rolleyes:

Well yes, that would be the simplest way to put it.

Originally posted by coopdog
Man, all the porn Kamato Hongo was in was A+ material. I will really miss not seeing any more of her hot and steamy shower scenes. :(

Are you sure we are talking about the same person?

http://www.grg.org/images/KHongo1.jpg

:eek:

wdlove
Feb 26, 2004, 07:10 PM
CLINTON, Md. -- A Maryland native believed to be America's oldest man has died at the age of 114.

Family members say William Coates died early Tuesday morning at Southern Maryland Hospital Center in Clinton, Md.

Coates was born June 2, 1889. According to Irving Smith, director of the Evelyn Cole Senior Center, he was the oldest man in America.http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/2872641/detail.html?treets=bos&tml=bos_health&ts=T&tmi=bos_health_1_12150102252004

bennetsaysargh
Feb 26, 2004, 07:28 PM
i read about this i think yesterday.
114 is very old!:eek: wow. that means he's lived through a big chunk of american history.

rainman::|:|
Feb 26, 2004, 08:35 PM
...you guys do know that this will just keep happening, right?

;)

paul

wdlove
Feb 26, 2004, 08:54 PM
Still living 114 years is quite a milestone. A life to be celebrated. Any death is sad, he definitely live a long full life. With the state of medicine today reaching the 100 mark, I think will become less rare.

Doctor Q
Feb 26, 2004, 08:56 PM
Unfortunately, the youngest person in the world dies quite often.

When I was little, I never understood that phrase "The king is dead; long live the king". I finally figured it out when I heard the phrase "The king is dead; long live the queen".

AngryLawnGnome
Feb 26, 2004, 09:27 PM
I suspect foul play!

Anybody know the whereabouts of the second oldest person in the world at the time? Fame is a powerful motive...

Originally posted by wdlove
...A Maryland native believed to be America's oldest man has died at the age of 114...

Well, looks like it wasn't even worth it.:rolleyes:

wdlove
Mar 7, 2004, 10:19 PM
MADRID, Spain (Reuters) -- A retired Spanish shoemaker born in the same year as Adolf Hitler and officially the world's oldest man has died at his home at the age of 114, his family said.

Guinness World Records recognised Joan Riudavets Moll as the the world's oldest man following the death of Japan's Yukichi Chuganji, also 114, in September.

Riudavets, who attributed his longevity to a life of moderation, was born on December 15, 1889 -- the year Hitler and Charlie Chaplin were born and the year the Eiffel Tower was completed.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/03/06/spain.oldest.reut/

Doctor Q
Mar 8, 2004, 11:32 PM
This has produced a very unusual situation. The world's oldest man and the world's oldest woman are currently both Americans! Fred Hale Sr., the new oldest man, was born Dec. 1, 1890 and lives in New York. Charlotte Benkner, the new oldest person, was born Nov. 16, 1889 and lives in Ohio.

_bnkr612
Mar 8, 2004, 11:39 PM
If there were a pill you could take so you did not have to sleep but it made your body think you rested for 8.6 hours. Would you take it?

Or treat it like every other drug out there with symptoms that are obsured?

Doctor Q
May 19, 2004, 11:49 AM
Last week Charlotte Benkner died at age 114 years, 181 days. She had been considered to be the oldest women (see previous post) until just last month, when she lost that designation to Ramona Trinidad Islesias-Jordan, a Puerto Rican who was found to be two months older. Mrs. Benkner said that one of the thrills of her life was meeting President Theodore Roosevelt. She voted in every election since woman got the vote in 1920. She married her husband in 1908, became a widow in 1967, and had no children. Her answer when asked for her secret to a long life: "Just live steadily."

sushi
May 19, 2004, 01:39 PM
as a side remark... according to the japanese news on this, the previously oldest person in the world (who recently passes away) was born in the same town as the previous, previously oldest person in the world (who died a while ago)...

hmm... they are from a town in kagoshima in kyushu - the western most main island in japan.

traditionally, okinawans - which is further southwest - are known to have long life... people in japan did some research and found that okinawans living away from okinawa don't live any longer than others, perhaps indicating that the lifestyle and diet has more to do with longevity than genetics...
They were twins.

And that might have something to do with it.

Sushi

Mr. Anderson
May 19, 2004, 01:53 PM
128 years old!!!

http://www.thedominican.net/articles/pampo.htm

if she ever gets officially recognized, that would be amazing.

D

Doctor Q
Jun 1, 2004, 12:39 PM
The "official" oldest person, Romona Trinidad Iglesias-Jordan, 114 years and 272 days old, died Saturday. Guinness had officially recognized Charlotte Benkner (see above) but later discovered that Iglesias-Jordan was in fact older, born 10 weeks earlier, on August 31, 1889, the same year that the Eiffel Tower was completed.

Both Iglesias-Jordan and Benkner were the eldest of 11 children, had married, but had no children. Take heed: Anybody who wants to live to be 114 should arrange to have 10 younger sibilngs! On the other hand, Iglesias attributed her longevity to always cooking with pork fat, so maybe that's worth a try.

The world's oldest person is now Hendrikje Van Andel-Schipper (known as Aunt Hennie to family) of the Netherlands, age 113, born June 29, 1890. There are still many dozens of people alive who were born in the 19th century.

The oldest American is Emma Verona Johnston, 113, of Ohio.

mactastic
Jun 1, 2004, 12:41 PM
Why does the oldest person in the world die so often? It's like the title is a death sentence or something. :D :p ;)

MongoTheGeek
Jun 1, 2004, 01:43 PM
Why does the oldest person in the world die so often? It's like the title is a death sentence or something. :D :p ;)

Well when you earn the title about the only thing left to do is die. :)

wdlove
Jun 1, 2004, 03:59 PM
Maybe that is good news for me Doctor Q. That I come from good stock in Ohio. Thank you for the well researched update Doctor Q! ;)

krimson
Jun 1, 2004, 04:15 PM
the oldest (and last known) Civil War widow died (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3765811.stm) over the weekend..

Doctor Q
Jun 1, 2004, 04:33 PM
the oldest (and last known) Civil War widow died (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3765811.stm) over the weekend..My mom told me about that one. It's an amazing story too. She (the last civil war widow, not my mom) married an 81-year-old Confederate army vet when she was 21. And when he died, she married his grandson!

wdlove
Jun 1, 2004, 09:26 PM
The "official" oldest person, Romona Trinidad Iglesias-Jordan, 114 years and 272 days old, died Saturday. Guinness had officially recognized Charlotte Benkner (see above) but later discovered that Iglesias-Jordan was in fact older, born 10 weeks earlier, on August 31, 1889, the same year that the Eiffel Tower was completed.

Both Iglesias-Jordan and Benkner were the eldest of 11 children, had married, but had no children. Take heed: Anybody who wants to live to be 114 should arrange to have 10 younger sibilngs! On the other hand, Iglesias attributed her longevity to always cooking with pork fat, so maybe that's worth a try.

Here is her picture. Not bad for a 114 years.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/3367756/detail.html?treets=bos&tml=bos_health&ts=T&tmi=bos_health_1_12150006012004

voicegy
Jun 1, 2004, 09:35 PM
...you guys do know that this will just keep happening, right?

;)

paul

hahahaha! You KILL me! :p

(oh, jeese...better not say that in a thread like this!)

Doctor Q
Nov 10, 2004, 08:10 PM
Here's a new angle on this old thread of ours.

Virginia Muise (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2004/11/04/virginia_muise_at_111_had_lived_in_three_centuries/) was only the 31st oldest person (but the oldest in New England) when she died a week ago, but she was undoubtably the longest-lived Red Sox fan. She was rooting for them when they won the World Series in 1918 and was still a fan when they won it again this year.

She was born in 1893, saw Titanic survivors getting off rescue boats in 1912 as a teen, moved to Boston in 1923. She was born before the invention of radio broadcasts or airplanes! And she always kept a Red Sox cap on her nightstand.

joepunk
Nov 10, 2004, 09:07 PM
To me it is not so much of amazement how old someone is or how long he or she lived. It's what they have seen and what went on around the world during their lives.

People were born the same year the Eiffel Tower was erected. A year before Vincent Van Gogh died. Others saw the tail end of the pony express, and then telegrams, phones, faxes, and emails. The year Geronimo died.

People saw the first cars and planes, then rockets and space shuttles, the moon landings, space walks, movie pictures,

Open heart surgery, test tube babies and organ transplants.

Bigotry and racism being questioned and challenged on a global scale, basic human rights, and the creation of Art and discovery of the ancient past.

Then there are the things that they witnessed that always seemed to promise so much but give back so little.

Like wars, oil and elections.

wdlove
Nov 10, 2004, 09:40 PM
Here's a new angle on this old thread of ours.

Virginia Muise (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2004/11/04/virginia_muise_at_111_had_lived_in_three_centuries/) was only the 31st oldest person (but the oldest in New England) when she died a week ago, but she was undoubtably the longest-lived Red Sox fan. She was rooting for them when they won the World Series in 1918 and was still a fan when they won it again this year.

She was born in 1893, saw Titanic survivors getting off rescue boats in 1912 as a teen, moved to Boston in 1923. She was born before the invention of radio broadcasts or airplanes! And she always kept a Red Sox cap on her nightstand.

Thanks for bringing her to everyone's attention Doctor Q. I was interested in the fact that she worked at the Lying In Hospital. It is used now by Brigham and Women's Hospital for research. I went there in 1999 to volunteer with the DASH 2 study. Currently I'm volunteer with the Omni Heart Study. I go there 5 days a week for my dinner, they provide 100% of my food.

virividox
Nov 11, 2004, 05:15 AM
i just llike to live old enought o see grandkids maybe great grand kids if im lukcy

AmigoMac
Nov 11, 2004, 08:15 AM
Very popular thread ;) ... I assume this will continue until it talks about one of us :rolleyes: , long live macrumors.

I think that it doesn't matter at all how old you are at your last day but what you did before...

jayscheuerle
Nov 12, 2004, 09:48 AM
I read an article in Discover Magazine about the aging process. We are gaining about two years per decade to life expectancy. Scientists debate whether we will be able to sustain it (most of the gain is from treating early age disease and later heart failure) or if geriatric care is leveling off. Some say children born today may live to 150 and beyond.


From what I understand, our maximum age hasn't really changed for as long as we've been able to tell these things. Life expectancy has risen by vastly reducing the deaths of infants (their deaths really bring the average down), as well has keeping people from dying during the rest of their life due to medical advances.

A thousand years ago, people may have lived to 120, but more likely, something would have killed them along the way, be it a heart attack, infection or any other numbers of things that are easily addressable these days...

jayscheuerle
Nov 12, 2004, 10:04 AM
Should one really count their sleeping hours as living?

A lives 120 years, sleeps 8 hours a day.
B lives 107 years, sleeps 6 hours a day.
Who really lives longer?

Then you've got the quality of life issues.

A spends 4 hours a day watching TV.
B spends those hours painting, dancing, screwing and playing.

Who want's a 120,000 mile warranty on a Yugo? :D

wdlove
Nov 20, 2004, 03:40 PM
Worlds oldeste man dies in New York

From CNN:

DEWITT, New York (AP) -- Fred Hale Sr., documented as the world's oldest man, died on Friday.

Hale died in his sleep at The Nottingham in suburban Syracuse, while trying to recover from a bout of pneumonia, his grandson, Fred Hale III, said.

He was 12 days shy of his 114th birthday.

Born December 1, 1890, Hale last month watched his lifelong favorite baseball team, the Boston Red Sox, win the World Series again after 86 years.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/20/oldest.man.dies.ap/index.html

schmuley
Nov 21, 2004, 05:05 AM
According to the Guinness book of world records, the oldest person on earth is a Dutch woman by the name of Hendrikje Andel-Schippers; she is 113 years old. There are several people in Russia, India, Suriname, and Peru claiming to be the oldest person on earth, but given the shoddy reputation of census records in these countries it is hard to substantiate those claims. Requirement for inclusion in the Guinness book of world records is being able to show a valid ID and birth certificate that supports an age claim. In June, a journalist travelling through Belarussia found a woman who claimed to be 116 years of age, Hanna Barysevich; Guinness has started an investigation.

Hoef
Nov 21, 2004, 12:20 PM
There will always be the oldest person in the world.... They'll never die :p

DanTekGeek
Nov 21, 2004, 12:37 PM
the system of many short naps is also called the uberman (http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/4/15/103358/720) sleep system.

Doctor Q
Nov 21, 2004, 01:18 PM
Requirement for inclusion in the Guinness book of world records is being able to show a valid ID and birth certificate that supports an age claim.They're getting carded!


There will always be the oldest person in the world.... They'll never die :pYes, as in "The king is dead. Long live the king!"

wdlove
Nov 21, 2004, 07:31 PM
According to the Guinness book of world records, the oldest person on earth is a Dutch woman by the name of Hendrikje Andel-Schippers; she is 113 years old. There are several people in Russia, India, Suriname, and Peru claiming to be the oldest person on earth, but given the shoddy reputation of census records in these countries it is hard to substantiate those claims. Requirement for inclusion in the Guinness book of world records is being able to show a valid ID and birth certificate that supports an age claim. In June, a journalist traveling through Belorussia found a woman who claimed to be 116 years of age, Hanna Barysevich; Guinness has started an investigation.

The article did say that there are 26 living woman older than him, according to Gerontology Research Group. Just proves that from birth to death the female is the stronger sex.

Doctor Q
Nov 25, 2004, 01:07 PM
Here's a twist. The oldest bank robber has died.

link (http://www.suntimes.com/output/obituaries/cst-nws-xrobber23.html)

J.L. Hunter ''Red'' Rountree died Oct. 12 at age 92 in prison.

He was sentenced to 12-1/2 years in prison when he was 91.


Born Dec. 11, 1911, in his family's farmhouse near Brownsville, Mr. Rountree was once a successful businessman who made his fortune in Houston by building Rountree Machinery Co., a relative said.

In 1998, Mr. Rountree (age 86) robbed SouthTrust Bank in Biloxi, Miss., and was sentenced to three years probation, fined $260 and told to leave Mississippi.

A year later, he robbed a NationsBank in Pensacola, Fla., but this time he was sentenced to three years behind bars. He was released in 2002.

In August 2003, Mr. Rountree robbed First American Bank in Abilene. In an interview with the Associated Press earlier this year, he said he walked slowly to a teller's window, handed over an envelope indicating his intent and was greeted with a surprised, ''Are you kidding?''

wdlove
Nov 25, 2004, 02:20 PM
Mr. Roundtree's mistake was robbing a bank in Texas. :D :eek:

This is certainly an unusual occurrence for a successful businessman turning too crime. Apparently no one noticed a possible mental illness that occurred with his aging process. The judge in Mississippi didn't help by letting him off without any punishment. I really wonder where his family was. It seems that for some reason there was an estrangement in his family. :(

roadapple
Nov 26, 2004, 01:47 AM
At what age do you think you will die?

scem0
Nov 26, 2004, 02:51 AM
I wonder how much of it is simply due to third world countries gaining access to the technologies in medicine that we already have. In the future, will "really old people" be any older than the "really old people" of today, or will poorer countries just start living closer to todays average, thus brining the average up? The U.S. even has some catching up to do, as Europeans seem to live longer. Then, when the U.S. catches up, those of us in Kentucky will catch up ten to fifteen years later.

While the medicines of today can be very benificial to one's health, the modernization of chemical agents, including medicines, is contributing to the declination of general health. The more chemicals we put in our foods, the more people have heart attacks at earlier ages. The more people use medicine for small problems like head aches, the more unhealthy they get. I think many people live to be so old because they live a simple lifestyle, away from chemicals and medicine.

It's kind of like chicken-farm chickens vs. free-range chickens. The free-range chickens are much healthier and live to be much older because they aren't pumped full of hormones.

Another good example is the logevity of many Asians. I'm betting that they haven't had much experience with modern medicine, and prefer traditional treatements like acupuncture, herbs, and dietary healing.

So, my suggestion is (assuming you want to live to be old):

Live far away from pesticides. Keep 'em out of your yard, out of your food, and out of your life. Eat organic.

Stay away from medicine unless you need it. I know people who pop a pill at the first sign of a headache, and now they have to take pills all the time just to keep from getting headaches. This has gotta be horrible for you.

Monitor your diet. I bet those people who lived to be so old didn't do so by eating McDonald's everyday. If you eat organic, preferably local, produce then you are doing your body a big favor. Don't eat too much meat. If you are worried about protien, eat beans. Don't consume too many dairy products. If you're concerned about calcium, just know that milk isn't even a good source for it. If you have to drink 7 cups of milk a day to get enough calcium, then it's not a good source. Plus, most milks have hormones in them from cows that are fed hormones to get them to produce more milk. Plus, although milk has a lot of nutrients, it is harder for our bodies to absorb them than nutrients in vegetables and fruits, because they are cow nutrients. So, if you are worried about calcium, there are plenty of better sources than milk and other dairy products. Try Horizon's Organic Orange Juice with added calcium. I love that stuff.

Stay away from saturated fats. It's no wonder that there are so many heart attacks happening all around America when you look at the average American diet. Saturated fats are everywhere. Fat in itself isn't bad, but you gotta get the essential fatty acids, that actually help to break down the bad fats.

I'm not a proponent to veganism or vegatarianism, although there's nothing wrong with those lifestyles. Meat isn't all bad if it isn't over-eaten. But your better off getting protein from vegetables, so limit the amount of meat you eat.

Okay, I better stop, because I'm feeling very hypocritical. I ate horribly today (Thanksgiving ;)). Plus, I'm the king of hypocracy being that I'm the King of Ramen Noodles, and the author of this post ;).

Oh well. Eat right, exercise, stay away from chemicals and you'll live to be much older than if you didn't.

scem0

Chappers
Nov 26, 2004, 03:47 AM
The article did say that there are 26 living woman older than him, according to Gerontology Research Group. Just proves that from birth to death the female is the stronger sex.

As a married man I know the truth.

Doctor Q
Nov 26, 2004, 04:30 AM
At what age do you think you will die?When I'm 96. I just like the number, that's all. And it's 3*(2^(3+2)), which has a nice pattern to it. That's as good a reason as any.

AmigoMac
Nov 26, 2004, 09:22 AM
At what age do you think you will die?

I don't care too much about that, you know, there must be a point where you say "I'm ready, I've done what I had to" , as long as I reach that point I will be more than happy, that will be the happiest day of my life ;) .

Chappers
Nov 26, 2004, 11:37 AM
I don't care too much about that, you know, there must be a point where you say "I'm ready, I've done what I had to" , as long as I reach that point I will be more than happy, that will be the happiest day of my life ;) .

It would be a bit irritating if you were hit and killed by a bus the day before though.

AmigoMac
Nov 26, 2004, 12:30 PM
It would be a bit irritating if you were hit and killed by a bus the day before though.

it would be irritating to know which day is the last one ;).
Live everyday like the last one.

wdlove
Nov 26, 2004, 12:54 PM
At what age do you think you will die?

I honestly have no idea. It's really not up to me. Try to do my best by eating correctly. Now I just need to get back to walking more.

Chappers
Nov 27, 2004, 08:39 AM
it would be irritating to know which day is the last one ;).
Live everyday like the last one.

I'm with you on that one.

wdlove
Dec 16, 2004, 09:37 PM
Floral Cigarette Wreath for 105-Year Old Smoker

LONDON (Reuters) - Nursing home staff paid tribute to a 105-year old British woman who had smoked since the age of 15 by cremating her with a packet of cigarettes and laying a large floral cigarette on her coffin.

Marie Ellis died of natural causes.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=7102447

Spock
Dec 16, 2004, 11:03 PM
Hey, oldest Human, Right?

wdlove
Dec 17, 2004, 12:46 PM
The comment about Marie each morning reminded me of my patients at the VA, "I want a cigarette." She illustrates that there are people that can smoke with no affect on their health. I have seen the same phenomena with diabetes.

I thought that was quite a tribute to what appeared to be a very nice lady.

AmigoMac
Dec 18, 2004, 04:29 AM
I bet that this will be the longest thread ever :p

;)

The next!

Doctor Q
Apr 6, 2005, 06:00 PM
News report:Ura Koyama, Japan's oldest person, died yesterday (Tuesday April 5) at age 114. She lived in Iizuka City in southern Japan (island of Kyushu). She was born August 30, 1890. Her grandson Takeshi is 60!

She was the second-oldest person in the world, after Hendrikje Van Andel of the Netherlands, who is still the oldest living person (born June 29, 1890). It is 12 weeks until she turns 115.

Here (http://www.factsabout.com/s/su/supercentenarian.html) you can find some interesting facts and figures about supercentenarians, but I think some of it is now out of date. I will be especially sorry when the last person born in the 19th century dies.

wdlove
Apr 6, 2005, 06:22 PM
Very interesting Doctor Q, thank you for the update. How amazing it would be to have lived in three centuries. A feat that we could never obtain.

acedickson
Apr 6, 2005, 06:34 PM
Very interesting Doctor Q, thank you for the update. How amazing it would be to have lied in three centuries. A feat that we could never obtain.

I could! June 18, 1983...only 95 years to go! If I do, wonder what I will have seen in that much time?

Doctor Q
Apr 6, 2005, 06:39 PM
As the century changed, I was hoping to read a news story that twins were born just before and after midnight on December 31st/January 1st. That way they would be twins born in different years, different decades, different centuries, and different millennia!

clayj
Apr 6, 2005, 06:56 PM
Very interesting Doctor Q, thank you for the update. How amazing it would be to have lied in three centuries. A feat that we could never obtain.What, are you a politician? ("... to have lied in three centuries.") :)

wdlove
Apr 6, 2005, 09:22 PM
What, are you a politician? ("... to have lied in three centuries.") :)

Oops I made a spelling error. It was supposed to "have be lived in three centuries." :o :o

I was actually referring to Doctor Q and anyone else of our generation.

You are good at research Doctor Q, hopefully you be able to find the answer to what would be a very interesting story. Actually just where to begin, if can help let me know? ;)

Mr. Anderson
Apr 6, 2005, 09:29 PM
Isn't the oldest person alive always going to die? This seems rather silly to keep track.

Now if it was the oldest person to have ever lived, that might be a little different.

D

Doctor Q
Apr 6, 2005, 10:09 PM
Isn't the oldest person alive always going to die? This seems rather silly to keep track.

Now if it was the oldest person to have ever lived, that might be a little different.The oldest person to have ever lived will also change, as successively older people claim that title. So the only real victor is the one who is oldest to have ever lived when humans finish their reign. I'll be sure to post when that happens.

Mr. Anderson
Apr 6, 2005, 11:46 PM
The oldest person to have ever lived will also change, as successively older people claim that title. So the only real victor is the one who is oldest to have ever lived when humans finish their reign. I'll be sure to post when that happens.

But odds are the frequency of the oldest person to have ever lived dying is much less than just the oldest person right now dying. My point is that this becomes just a list of old people dying....

D

Doctor Q
Apr 7, 2005, 03:51 AM
How amazing it would be to have lived in three centuries.Since there are many people who live past 100, that means that in any year there are people alive you will see 3 centuries. Assuming life expectancy increases from 114 to more like 120 over the next decades, anybody currently high school (maybe college) age or younger has a reasonable shot at the 3-century feat.

bebo
Apr 7, 2005, 04:17 AM
Since there are many people who live past 100, that means that in any year there are people alive you will see 3 centuries. Assuming life expectancy increases from 114 to more like 120 over the next decades, anybody currently high school (maybe college) age or younger has a reasonable shot at the 3-century feat.


When I was in Dominica they had a lady there who was the oldest person alive ever they believed. I think she lived to be 126, but I'm not sure.
They could never proove it though because her birth certificate was lost in a church that burned down.

I know there was some research into the ability to tell the age of a person I believe by the thickness of their cornea.

wish I remembered more.

Either, I still find it remarkable that people can live this long.

AmigoMac
Apr 7, 2005, 08:39 AM
Now let's see how long this thread lasts ... ;) ...

Oldest thread in the world...

SpaceMagic
Apr 7, 2005, 10:54 AM
These forums may not exist in 5 let alone 95 years :( .. i'm soo excited about how the internet will evolve. Think of everything that's happened in the last 100 years.. from defying god with the right brothers (sp?) to computers the size of the mac mini :p oh.. and computers which play chess!

Doctor Q
Apr 7, 2005, 01:25 PM
I know there was some research into the ability to tell the age of a person I believe by the thickness of their cornea.Perhaps during an autopsy then can count our equivalent of tree rings.

We really only need to survive long enough so that our children are "viable" (able to reproduce), but perhaps nature holds onto us a little longer to make sure the kids get through college.

As as adjunct to this thread, maybe we need a "Youngest Person in the World Born" thread to announce and discuss each birth.

Doctor Q
Jun 19, 2005, 02:24 AM
This month Percy and Florence Arrowsmith set the world's record (recognized by Guinness) for the longest marriage when they celebrated their 80th anniversary on June 1st.

Percy died a few days ago at age 105. Florence is "only" 100. They also held the record for oldest sum of a husband and wife's age.

Photo from article (http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0615obit-marriage15-ON.html):

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/pics/breaking/0615obit-marriage.jpg

raggedjimmi
Jun 19, 2005, 09:12 AM
i think theres a difference in reaching a massive age and getting a good quality life. just think, if you're 120 then you've had wrinkles for more than 50% of your life, and you cant run anymore or really do that much. thats quite depressing.

when hitting 120 is like being 60 (in effect doubling life) then ill be happy. personally id love to still be doing marathons into my 70's.

TheGimp
Jun 19, 2005, 10:42 AM
just think, if you're 120 then you've had wrinkles for more than 50% of your life


And just think of how old some of your underpants will be by that point.

zap2
Jun 19, 2005, 12:05 PM
Should one really count their sleeping hours as living?

A lives 120 years, sleeps 8 hours a day.
B lives 107 years, sleeps 6 hours a day.
Who really lives longer?

Then you've got the quality of life issues.

A spends 4 hours a day watching TV.
B spends those hours painting, dancing, screwing and playing.

Who want's a 120,000 mile warranty on a Yugo? :D


the quality of life does not make it shorter, perhaps the person who watched tv had better time in life, and sleeping is being alive, becuz if its not, its dead and the never wake up

drewel
Jun 19, 2005, 01:18 PM
I used to be the oldest person in the world.

wdlove
Jun 19, 2005, 08:15 PM
This month Percy and Florence Arrowsmith set the world's record (recognized by Guinness) for the longest marriage when they celebrated their 80th anniversary on June 1st.

Percy died a few days ago at age 105. Florence is "only" 100. They also held the record for oldest sum of a husband and wife's age.

Photo from article (http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0615obit-marriage15-ON.html):

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/pics/breaking/0615obit-marriage.jpg

Very nice Doctor Q. I liked their answer to the question; how do you think that your marriage lasted so long. "We never went to bed angry, we always made up first." What a wonderful philosophy for all of us to follow.

wdlove
Aug 31, 2005, 12:26 PM
Another of the world's oldest has died. :(

http://www.thatliberalmedia.com/archives/004700.html

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2005/08/31/h_van_andel_schipper_115_was_worlds_oldest_person/

We now have another person that is the oldest person in the world.

Now the title of world's oldest person has been bestowed on Elizabeth Jones Bolden of Memphis, Tenn., who is 115.

Doctor Q
Aug 31, 2005, 12:27 PM
Hendrikje Van Andel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrikje_Van_Andel) of the Netherlands, the world's oldest person (born June 29, 1890), died peacefully in her sleep yesterday at age 115 years and 2 months. She supported her favorite soccer team for 87 years and was a widow since 1959.

She said that she considered the automobile to be the greatest invention in her lifetime. Her advice about living a long time? Eat picked herring, drink orange juice, and (said jokingly) "keep breathing". (I do two out of three - does that count?)

The world's oldest person is now an American, 115-year-old Elizabeth Jones Bolden of Memphis, Tennessee, born August 15, 1890.

Hendrikje Van Andel:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b0/Hendrikje_van_Andel-Schipper_at_113.jpg

Doctor Q
Aug 31, 2005, 01:20 PM
We were both posting at the same time, wdlove! We both think of this thread when we see these news stories.

wdlove
Aug 31, 2005, 06:42 PM
We were both posting at the same time, wdlove! We both think of this thread when we see these news stories.

Well I will take is positively. Great minds think alike. Wonder if it has to do with our age?
:D

Lacero
Aug 31, 2005, 06:43 PM
I'm amazed you two moldy oldies are even able to type. ;)

Doctor Q
Feb 17, 2006, 02:19 AM
With or without wdlove, it's my duty to keep this thread up to date.

Which means I need to report that Bettie Wilson (http://www.answers.com/topic/bettie-wilson), the oldest American, has died.
Born of freed slaves, she is the oldest resident of the state of Mississippi ever recorded. Her oldest son, Will Rogers, was said born October 27, 1909 - making him 96 years old himself (the 1930 census lists him as 19 years old, suggesting a birthdate of Oct 1910).She died Monday (Feburary 13, 2006) at age 115 years and 153 days.

She had five surviving grandchildren, 46 great grandchildren and 95 great-great grandchildren.

Omega69
Feb 17, 2006, 09:59 AM
The oldest person in the world died at 116 years of age. Kamato Hongo said that not 'moping around' is the key. A positive attitude. She was famous in Japan for staying awake for 2 days and then sleeping for 2 days.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/health/2599443/detail.html


Dont you read the guiness world records??
The eldest person was 120 years old, French and died in 1997!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

jsw
Feb 17, 2006, 10:08 AM
Dont you read the guiness world records??
The eldest person was 120 years old, French and died in 1997!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
He meant the oldest person at the time.:rolleyes:

phreakout13
Feb 17, 2006, 03:25 PM
Last Sunday I visited my next door neightbor Mr. Crotty. He'll be 101 at the end of the month. He's a very nice guy, and so interesting to talk to. He's lived in town his whole life, and he always tells cool stories about stuff he did when he was a kid. It's cool though, 'cause despite his old age, he's very healthy. He's not dilusional or forgetful at all, and he still knows the names of all the people in the neighborhood. I hope I get old someday:)

cslewis
Feb 17, 2006, 06:57 PM
Last Sunday I visited my next door neightbor Mr. Crotty. He'll be 101 at the end of the month. He's a very nice guy, and so interesting to talk to. He's lived in town his whole life, and he always tells cool stories about stuff he did when he was a kid. It's cool though, 'cause despite his old age, he's very healthy. He's not dilusional or forgetful at all, and he still knows the names of all the people in the neighborhood. I hope I get old someday:)

That's amazing! What's his secret to living so long?

clayj
Feb 17, 2006, 07:01 PM
That's amazing! What's his secret to living so long?"Not dying", probably. :p

phreakout13
Feb 18, 2006, 03:17 PM
I think he's lived so long because he's avoided stressful situations. Now that I think of it, he's never really had to move, he couldn't have children, he was too young for WWI and too old for WWII... That's gotta be his secret:eek:

topgunn
Feb 18, 2006, 05:30 PM
I don't buy into a lot of these "oldest living person claims". How good were records kept in 19th century Okinawa anyway? If a 15 year old can say he was 12 to play in the little leagues, I am sure Mr. Oldy McOlderson can make himself 116 instead of 113.

jsw
Feb 18, 2006, 05:33 PM
I don't buy into a lot of these "oldest living person claims". How good were records kept in 19th century Okinawa anyway? If a 15 year old can say he was 12 to play in the little leagues, I am sure Mr. Oldy McOlderson can make himself 116 instead of 113.
Yeah - that'd be so uncool of a 113-year old trying to act like he's really old. I suppose if they're going for the record, then it'd be uncool, but i doubt many of these over-110-year-old people are all that sure of when they were born anyway. ;)

...too old for WWII...
Wow - that really drove home how truly old he is - to have been too old for the second world war and still be around now... that's old.

kwajo.com
Feb 18, 2006, 05:36 PM
weird, I chimed in to read this thread just when the post count was 116. coincidence? I think not! :cool:

cslewis
Feb 19, 2006, 12:19 AM
"Not dying", probably. :p

There's one for the ages. :D

bevo
Feb 19, 2006, 10:49 AM
I cannot back this up. But when I did some schooling in Dominica, there was this lady who had lived to over 120?

I was told she was the oldest living person in the world, but was not recognized because the church did not have any birth record for her. I believed she died at 128 years old. Ross was trying to do a study at the time by looking at the retina or something as a determenant of age.

http://www.swagga.com/pampo.htm

topgunn
Feb 19, 2006, 11:13 PM
Wow - that really drove home how truly old he is - to have been too old for the second world war and still be around now... that's old.
I don't know that he was too old for WWII. If he will be 101 at the end of the month, he was born in 1905. He would have been 13 at the beginning of US involvement in WWI which is, in fact, too young even compared to the 15-17 year olds who lied about their age to fight. So, he would have been 3 months shy of his 37th birthday when Pearl Harbor was attacked. There were many people his age and older that went to fight in the war.

WildCowboy
Aug 28, 2006, 02:58 PM
I'm surprised Doctor Q hasn't brought this thread back up yet.

Marķa Capovilla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Capovilla) of Ecuador, the world's oldest person (born September 14, 1889) passed away yesterday just a few weeks shy of her 117th birthday.

The world's oldest person is now Elizabeth Bolden of Memphis, Tennessee. Elizabeth temporarily held the title from August 30, 2005 until December 9, 2005, when Marķa Capovilla was certified as being 11 months older.

Doctor Q
Aug 28, 2006, 03:17 PM
It's nice to see that somebody made it to 117 when so many "oldest persons" died at 114 or 115. Over the long term, this number will increase, but from year to year we mostly have statistical ups and downs.

emw
Aug 28, 2006, 03:32 PM
At least we know the next "oldest person" to die will be at least 116. Wow. I wonder what I'd do if I made it another 80 years. :eek:

Better start focusing more on that 401(k) plan. :D

WildCowboy
Dec 11, 2006, 06:36 PM
Lizzie Bolden has passed away (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/12/11/national/a135017S75.DTL) at the age of 116 years, 118 days.

While Guinness has not confirmed it yet, the world's oldest person title appears to fall to Emiliano Mercado del Toro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emiliano_Mercado_del_Toro) of Puerto Rico, who is the second oldest undisputed male on record and will be the first male to hold the title of "world's oldest person" since 1968.

(The "undisputed" label refers to the case of Shigechiyo Izumi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigechiyo_Izumi), who Guinness recognized as the oldest person until he passed away at the age of 120 in 1986. There is now some doubt about his actual year of birth.)

tominated
Dec 11, 2006, 06:54 PM
i couldn't do it, i would feel tired every time i got up, eventually i'd sleep to death.

:)
pnw

i have found out that you will die quicker from lack of sleep than lack of water/food

Doctor Q
Dec 11, 2006, 07:17 PM
...the first male to hold the title of "world's oldest person" since 1968.A win for our side! Go men!

It sounds like Elizabeth Bolden died peacefully. I'm glad for her and her 40 grandchildren, 75 great-grandchildren, 150 great-great-grandchildren, 220 great-great-great grandchildren and 75 great-great-great-great grandchildren! That's more birthdays than even a database could keep track of!

However, I'm surprised she went by "Lizzie" given how close her last name sounded to "Borden". I guess it was her nickname well before Lizzie Borden became infamous.

xsedrinam
Dec 11, 2006, 07:53 PM
... I'm glad for her and her 40 grandchildren, 75 great-grandchildren, 150 great-great-grandchildren, 220 great-great-great grandchildren and 75 great-great-great-great grandchildren! That's more birthdays than even a database could keep track of!

The number of grandchildren is staggering. Since my wife is from Memphis were were talking about her back in August when the lady from Ecuador passed away and Elizabeth took the mantle. We wondered if the Memphis water (http://gwi.memphis.edu/history/history.htm) helped any. :) Memphis has great water. Of course the other lady was from Guayaquil, Ecuador which doesn't have such great water afaik. I've only been to Puero Rico twice, but can't wouldn't think its water is all that good, either.

WildCowboy
Dec 11, 2006, 07:56 PM
The number of grandchildren is staggering. Since my wife is from Memphis were were talking about her back in August when the lady from Ecuador passed away and Elizabeth took the mantle. We wondered if the Memphis water (http://gwi.memphis.edu/history/history.htm) helped any. :) Memphis has great water. Of course the other lady was from Guayaquil, Ecuador which doesn't have such great water afaik.

She and her husband had seven children, so each of them averaged almost six children apiece.

cardiac dave
Dec 13, 2006, 03:30 PM
when I saw the title "Oldest Person in the World dies"

was I the only person to think - Long Live the Oldest Person in the World!??

Doctor Q
Dec 14, 2006, 01:46 AM
when I saw the title "Oldest Person in the World dies"

was I the only person to think - Long Live the Oldest Person in the World!??Nope. I made that very comment just yesterday while talking with a coworker about the news about Ms. Bolden.

Evangelion
Dec 14, 2006, 02:44 AM
I read an article in Discover Magazine about the aging process. We are gaining about two years per decade to life expectancy. Scientists debate whether we will be able to sustain it (most of the gain is from treating early age disease and later heart failure) or if geriatric care is leveling off. Some say children born today may live to 150 and beyond.

Very interesting article. It's the cover story of the current issue, if anyone is interested.

Dan

The average life-span is going up, but the maximum age has not been going up. More and more people are living longer, but 120 years seems to be the limit. In the future we might have more people living 120 years, but we will not be having 150 year old people.

MrSmith
Dec 14, 2006, 10:40 PM
While we celebrate such impressive longevity it's sad to think there will soon be no-one living who was born in the 19th century. Meeting someone who was born in 18xx would now be very impressive - especially if they could remember it!

TequilaBoobs
Dec 14, 2006, 10:43 PM
The average life-span is going up, but the maximum age has not been going up. More and more people are living longer, but 120 years seems to be the limit. In the future we might have more people living 120 years, but we will not be having 150 year old people.

aging is a degenerative disease, and one day science will find a cure for it.

xsedrinam
Dec 14, 2006, 10:57 PM
aging is a degenerative disease, and one day science will find a cure for it.
What? And steal the thunder from Willard Scott and Smuckers?! :) Willard still has 28 years to go before he can show his 100th birthday picture.

clayj
Dec 14, 2006, 11:12 PM
aging is a degenerative disease, and one day science will find a cure for it.You can't stop entropy... not completely, anyway. Even if you found a way to stop the aging process, there are parts of the human body which will be worn away through use... teeth, for example. And the brain doesn't have unlimited storage capacity.

mac-er
Dec 15, 2006, 10:20 AM
Well, she's the youngest corpse around.

MacBoobsPro
Dec 15, 2006, 10:22 AM
She had a good two innings!

TequilaBoobs
Dec 15, 2006, 11:00 AM
You can't stop entropy... not completely, anyway. Even if you found a way to stop the aging process, there are parts of the human body which will be worn away through use... teeth, for example. And the brain doesn't have unlimited storage capacity.

if they found a way to stop aging, dont you think by then technology could reproduce teeth, discs, brains, etc... through stem cell research?
and humans use a fraction of their brain - imagine if we could live longer to tap into all areas of our brain - we would either destroy the universe or at the very least our galaxy - but that is neither here nor there.

skunk
Dec 15, 2006, 11:05 AM
You can't stop entropy... not completely, anyway. Even if you found a way to stop the aging process, there are parts of the human body which will be worn away through use... teeth, for example. And the brain doesn't have unlimited storage capacity.False teeth are easy enough, and I'm sure the brain has a lot of unused capacity. After that there's always an external array of FW800 drives to handle the overspill.

Cassie
Dec 15, 2006, 11:23 AM
I thought Jeanne Calment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment)t was the oldest person ever. :confused:

What surprises me, was she was a smoker!

WildCowboy
Dec 15, 2006, 05:03 PM
I thought Jeanne Calment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment)t was the oldest person ever. :confused:

She was. This thread is continually being updated with the oldest living people, and thus notes when one of them dies and a new one inherits the crown. (Not that there's an actual crown I'm aware of, but that would be cool.)

emw
Dec 15, 2006, 05:12 PM
we will not be having 150 year old people.I dunno, it wasn't that long ago that 60 was considered ancient.
aging is a degenerative disease, and one day science will find a cure for it.Well, it will at least postpone it longer.
(Not that there's an actual crown I'm aware of, but that would be cool.)Assuming clayj is correct, I'd bet many of them had crowns...there are parts of the human body which will be worn away through use... teeth, for example.

killr_b
Dec 16, 2006, 02:55 PM
Hmmm, I always see things like this.
I think that once you're over one hundred you are "the oldest living…"

Check this out (http://www.africa-interactive.net/index.php?PageID=1383)

132 seems a bit longer than 116 to me.

Wow, I had never heard of Jeanne Calmentt, but she's still dead now! :p

WildCowboy
Dec 16, 2006, 03:24 PM
Check this out (http://www.africa-interactive.net/index.php?PageID=1383)

132 seems a bit longer than 116 to me.

Very few people take her claim seriously...there is essentially no evidence of her birthdate, and the daughter she currently lives with is 54 years younger than she is. Not too many women were having children at the age of 54 back in the late 1920s.

Doctor Q
Jan 20, 2007, 01:08 PM
The world's oldest woman, Canadian Julie Winnefred Bertrand, died Thursday at age 115. See News link (http://politicalgateway.com/news/read/59034).
A niece, Elaine Sauciere, said that her aunt had the opportunity to marry but rejected it. One of her possible beaus was Louis St. Laurent, the brother of a friend who went on to become prime minister of Canada.

Miss Bertrand held the record of world's oldest woman for about a month.

The oldest woman is now an American (in Hartford, CT), Emma Tillman, a relatively young 113. See photo of Emma (http://www.grg.org/images/ETillman112.jpg).

The oldest person is still a man, which is rather surprising. He's 115 and his name is Emiliano Mercado del Toro, which is an anagram (http://www.anagramgenius.com/archive/emiliano-mercado-del-toro.html) of "I dream I'm one real old coot!"

WildCowboy
Jan 24, 2007, 05:32 PM
After holding the crown for only about six weeks, Emiliano Mercado del Toro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emiliano_Mercado_del_Toro) has passed away.

The title of world's oldest person now appears to fall to 114-year old Emma Tillman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Tillman), currently living in East Hartford, Connecticut. Interestingly, four of her 22 (yes, 22) siblings also lived past the age of 100.

Doctor Q
Jan 24, 2007, 05:49 PM
It's what the super-seniors say in interviews (while they are living) and news articles (afterwards) that I find most interesting.

Quote: (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/24/world/main2395243.shtml)Mercado Del Toro, who was born in Puerto Rico when it was still a Spanish colony, was drafted into the U.S. Army in 1918 but did not serve in combat because World War I ended while he was still in training. Later, he worked in the island's sugar cane fields.

He was married three times but never had children.I haven't seen his recommendations for how to live a long life. Having the right genes makes a big difference, along with the good fortune not to be hit by a meteor crossing the street, but the oldest people often claim that some of their person habits are part of the secret, drinking a glass of wine every day, for example.

emw
Jan 24, 2007, 06:04 PM
After holding the crown for only about six weeks, Emiliano Mercado del Toro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emiliano_Mercado_del_Toro) has passed away.

The title of world's oldest person now appears to fall to 114-year old Emma Tillman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Tillman), currently living in East Hartford, Connecticut. Interestingly, four of her 22 (yes, 22) siblings also lived past the age of 100.

Hmm. The past three (Elizabeth, Emiliano, Emma) oldest persons have all had names that begin with "E". Perhaps I'd better start saving more money for post-retirement plans. ;)

WildCowboy
Jan 24, 2007, 06:07 PM
Hmm. The past three (Elizabeth, Emiliano, Emma) oldest persons have all had names that begin with "E". Perhaps I'd better start saving more money for post-retirement plans. ;)

Double hmmm....good plan. Would you save a little extra for me too?

emw
Jan 24, 2007, 06:07 PM
Would save a little extra for me too?Sure, but only if you marry me.

WildCowboy
Jan 24, 2007, 06:24 PM
Sure, but only if you marry me.

I would, but that would mean I'd have to put up with jsw at family functions, right?

No thanks.

MacNut
Jan 24, 2007, 10:21 PM
The title of world's oldest person now appears to fall to 114-year old Emma Tillman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Tillman), currently living in East Hartford, Connecticut. Interestingly, four of her 22 (yes, 22) siblings also lived past the age of 100.I should go visit her, she is only 1 town over.:)

xsedrinam
Jan 24, 2007, 10:59 PM
If Emma was one of 23 children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Tillman), not counting twins but just single births means, her mother was great with child for 17.25 years. :eek:

MacNut
Jan 29, 2007, 05:21 PM
HARTFORD, Conn. -- Two weeks after she became the oldest known living person, Connecticut's Emma Faust Tillman has died at a nursing home at the age of 114.
Karen Chadderton, administrator of Riverside Health and Rehabilitation Center, said Tillman went peacefully Sunday night with her family with her.
Her reign as the world's oldest person was short-lived; she assumed the title Jan. 14 with the death of 115-year-old Emiliano Mercado del Toro, of Puerto Rico.

WildCowboy
Jan 29, 2007, 05:25 PM
Actually, it's only been four days. She held the title of world's oldest woman for ten days. Wow.

The presumed oldest person is now Yone Minagawa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yone_Minagawa), who just turned 114 earlier this month.

Doctor Q
Jun 3, 2007, 12:12 AM
For a change, how 'bout some news about somebody who is still with us?

Tonite I learned something about our family: It seems that Grandma's brother's son's wife's mother's brother's girlfriend's mother turned 108 last Fall!

She doesn't get around much any more, but she lives in a senior center, not a nursing home, and that's pretty good for 108!

xsedrinam
Jun 3, 2007, 12:42 AM
For a change, how 'bout some news about somebody who is still with us?

Tonite I learned something about our family: It seems that Grandma's brother's son's wife's mother's brother's girlfriend's mother turned 108 last Fall!

She doesn't get around much any more, but she lives in a senior center, not a nursing home, and that's pretty good for 108!
Trying to shake that tree a while, that would be the mother of the girlfriend of your great uncle's by marriage, uncle just turned 108 last Fall? Wow, that's so close to home.....like Arkansas. :p Must be a comfort to know those genes are resident in the family pool, even though it may be just a creek. :D

Doctor Q
Jun 3, 2007, 02:14 PM
Must be a comfort to know those genes are resident in the family pool, even though it may be just a creek. :DI may not share her genes, but this means I might get to ask her what the secret is.

Of course we already know how to live to be 108. First live to 107, then be verrrrrrrrrrrry careful!

Tom B.
Jun 3, 2007, 05:04 PM
My great grandma lived to 101 (and 9 months). I wonder how old todays babies will live to be, with the speed of medical advancements? I'm sure that life expectancy will improve hugely in our lifetimes. I'm 16, and as long as i don't have some kind of fatal accident or illness, i will be suprised to not make it past 100. If i become fairly rich, I hope to have my body frozen for future revivement. Even if it is unlikely to work, i will do it just so that on my death bed i know that this is (possibly) not the end.

emw
Jun 4, 2007, 12:06 PM
Grandma's brother's son's wife's mother's brother's girlfriendWhat I think is more amazing is that someone who is likely about 80-85 (seems as though they'd be your grandmother's age) still refers to their SO as their "girlfriend". ;)

I wonder how old todays babies will live to be, with the speed of medical advancements?There is some evidence/speculation that the life expectancy of the most recent generation will actually be lower than the previous generation for, I believe, the first time ever. At least in the U.S. due to obesity.

Now, for people that take care of themselves, I would expect that seeing people reach 100-110 will be far less unusual. I think we've even had discussions in this thread about the likelihood of people living to 150 and beyond with medical advancements.

Doctor Q
Jun 4, 2007, 12:20 PM
What I think is more amazing is that someone who is likely about 80-85 (seems as though they'd be your grandmother's age) still refers to their SO as their "girlfriend". ;)At that age, the men are so far outnumbered by the women that they can say whatever they like!

Some senior couples don't marry (and never learned the phrase "significant other") for legal or tax reasons or because it would upset the "kids".

I wonder if the ratio of senior women to men will even out more in the coming generations.

emw
Jun 4, 2007, 12:22 PM
I wonder if the ratio of senior women to men will even out more in the coming generations.I certainly hope to do my part to even it out a little bit.

xsedrinam
Jun 4, 2007, 04:30 PM
I certainly hope to do my part to even it out a little bit.
Count me in on that effort, too. Most of us would love to be able to enjoy quality time with the grandkids.

My dad passed away on May 7th, last month. I admit, I was checking on how to send in his picture to Willard for the Smucker's 100 birthday list, but he made it to 98, two years short. Since the 50's are now conidered the new 40's, and 40's the new 30's, etc., this upcoming generation has a different mindset about aging.

Doctor Q
Jun 4, 2007, 05:06 PM
My dad passed away on May 7th, last month. I admit, I was checking on how to send in his picture to Willard for the Smucker's 100 birthday list, but he made it to 98, two years short. Since the 50's are now conidered the new 40's, and 40's the new 30's, etc., this upcoming generation has a different mindset about aging.I'm sorry to hear that you lost your dad, xsedrinam. It must also be disappointing that he was short of a milestone everyone would have noted.

Let's hope you inherited his longevity and reach a number of milestones yourself.

emw
Jun 4, 2007, 05:16 PM
Most of us would love to be able to enjoy quality time with the grandkids.
Oh yeah, that too. I meant I was going to start running over old ladies.

xsedrinam
Jun 4, 2007, 05:23 PM
Oh yeah, that too. I meant I was going to start running over old ladies.
Missed that attrition ploy. :D

I'm sorry to hear that you lost your dad, xsedrinam. It must also be disappointing that he was short of a milestone everyone would have noted.

Let's hope you inherited his longevity and reach a number of milestones yourself.
Thanks, Doctor Q. 98 is a long life, and he had long, satisfying one.

WildCowboy
Aug 14, 2007, 12:25 AM
Yone Minagawa has passed away (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/13/international/i183636D54.DTL). The title of world's oldest person now apparently falls to Edna Parker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Parker) of Indiana.

WildCowboy
Aug 16, 2007, 09:16 PM
Edna Parker celebrated (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/16/national/a172351D42.DTL) her new title with some cake...must be tough to more-or-less celebrate the death of someone else. Hopefully she's focused on her own remarkable longevity. She certainly seems to be in decent health and is at least aware of her surroundings and communicative...it's nice that's able to enjoy her fame.

It really puts her age in perspective when you see that her husband passed away nearly 70 years ago. :eek:

Doctor Q
Aug 20, 2007, 08:50 PM
must be tough to more-or-less celebrate the death of someone elseIt's a "real life" version of what happens in sports all the time. In sports where you take turns (spelling bees, gymnastics, pole vault) people often become winners because somebody else fails as they watch. A good sport will celebrate the positive of winning, not the negative of somebody else's loss.

ghall
Aug 20, 2007, 09:42 PM
Yikes, and I thought my great grandmother was old. :eek:

nickster9224
Aug 20, 2007, 10:09 PM
if the oldest person in teh world dies, they wouldnt be the oldest would they?

WildCowboy
Aug 20, 2007, 10:16 PM
if the oldest person in teh world dies, they wouldnt be the oldest would they?

And we've come full circle back to Post #5 in this thread... ;)

xsedrinam
Aug 20, 2007, 10:27 PM
i wouldnt call her the oldest person in the world anymore.

And we've come full circle back to Post #5 in this thread... ;)
The Circle of Death. I wonder how many times teh "oldest person in the world" has died? Work on that one. :)

MacNut
Aug 20, 2007, 10:30 PM
The oldest person never really dies because that person was just born.

iToaster
Aug 20, 2007, 10:49 PM
The oldest person never really dies because that person was just born.

That makes my brain hurt. I don't care if anyone's the oldest person, it's not how long you live your life, it's how well you lived it and how much you learned and had fun with your time. Just remember, The best thing you can buy is time.

Jaffa Cake
Dec 16, 2007, 05:38 PM
Just breathe a bit of life back into this thread (if you'll excuse the expression), a challenger to Edna Parker's crown died on Friday. Hryhoriy Nestor of Ukraine was said to be 116 years-old, although he died before this claim could be verified.

Full story here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7147254.stm)

iCantwait
Dec 16, 2007, 07:25 PM
Indeed what do you call the formerly oldest person in the world...

:rolleyes: :confused:

dead

skunk
Dec 16, 2007, 07:29 PM
"The oldest person in the world is dead. Long live the oldest person in the world!"

Unspeaked
Dec 17, 2007, 02:16 PM
Did anyone ever see that old "Dennis the Menace" where Dennis stumbled on this old guy who'd fought in the civil war?

He was a hermit, and was living in some camp outside of town.

Anyway, they made a big deal about how he fought in the civil war, but it wasn't totally unusual - the way people talk about WWII vets now.

I always thought that was crazy, that there were just thousands of civil war vets walking around the country.

Now, it's hard to find WWI vets - isn't there only a handful left?

Someday, they'll be doing news stories on the last surviving Americans that were alive when the 9/11 attacks happened...

xsedrinam
Dec 17, 2007, 04:37 PM
Just breathe a bit of life back into this thread (if you'll excuse the expression), a challenger to Edna Parker's crown died on Friday. Hryhoriy Nestor of Ukraine was said to be 116 years-old, although he died before this claim could be verified.

Full story here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7147254.stm)
Amateurs.
http://lizzieandrewborden.com/MondoLizzie/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/b6945bb0-2183-49af-b0fb-445feabe372d.jpg

Doctor Q
Dec 17, 2007, 08:19 PM
SNL had a joke about that (on a rerun) the other night. Tina Fey reported that the oldest person in the world had died and then said something like "Gee, it seems like there's a curse on that title."

ezekielrage_99
Dec 17, 2007, 09:18 PM
i wouldnt call her the oldest person in the world anymore.

More like former...

Doctor Q
Mar 24, 2008, 12:13 PM
Oldest person in the world: Edna Parker. She lives in Indiana and is 114 years and 11 months old. She was born Apr. 20, 1893.

2nd oldest person: Maria de Jesus. She lives in Portugal and is 114 years and 6 months old. She was born September 10, 1893.

Former 3rd oldest person: Arbella Ewing. She died 2 days ago. She lived in Texas and was 114 years and 0 months old. Mrs. Ewing lived on her own until her 113th birthday, when she fell and broke her hip. Earlier this month she blew out all 114 candles on her birthday cake. She was born March 13, 1894 to the grandchildren of slaves.

New 3rd oldest person: Gertrude Baines, who lives in California and was born April 6, 1894. That makes her 113 years and 11 months old. I hope she'll be careful at her birthday party.

Iscariot
Mar 24, 2008, 01:10 PM
Now, it's hard to find WWI vets - isn't there only a handful left?


Two in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_veterans_of_World_War_I

skunk
May 17, 2008, 06:13 PM
My father's great aunt who died at 108 was heard by him to say that "the Kaiser reminded her in some ways of Napoleon". It was 1915, my father was five years old, and she was talking from personal experience, having met both the Kaiser and Napoleon.

iJohnHenry
May 17, 2008, 07:08 PM
Two in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surviving_veterans_of_World_War_I
HEY, one of them is ours. Dibs.

"We" have one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Babcock) left, he lives in the States. :D

Digital Skunk
May 17, 2008, 09:43 PM
My father's great aunt who died at 108 was heard by him to say that "the Kaiser reminded her in some ways of Napoleon". It was 1915, my father was five years old, and she was talking from personal experience, having met both the Kaiser and Napoleon.

Those are the things that really bring history into perspective. It reminds me of the persons that started the Civil Rights Movement in the US. They were the children of the first generations NOT born into slavery, their parents being the bridge from slavery to freedom, and established much of the culture wee have today.

BlakTornado
May 17, 2008, 11:00 PM
Is it just me or is the oldest person in the world always dying?

Doctor Q
May 18, 2008, 12:32 AM
Is it just me or is the oldest person in the world always dying?
And the youngest person in the world keeps being born.

sushi
May 18, 2008, 12:42 AM
My father's great aunt who died at 108 was heard by him to say that "the Kaiser reminded her in some ways of Napoleon". It was 1915, my father was five years old, and she was talking from personal experience, having met both the Kaiser and Napoleon.
Cool! :)

Is it just me or is the oldest person in the world always dying?
Kind of the way things work.

And the youngest person in the world keeps being born.
Kind of the way things work 2. :)

ppc_michael
May 18, 2008, 10:47 PM
This is the oldest thread in the world.

Hushbull
May 20, 2008, 04:29 AM
Indeed what do you call the formerly oldest person in the world...

:rolleyes: :confused:

The oldest new dead person... ?

Doctor Q
Sep 7, 2008, 01:57 AM
This isn't the oldest person, but it's still notable:

Maudie Hopkins of Arkansas died August 17 at age 93. She was the last publicly documented wife of a Confederate soldier! (There are other "undocumented" wives who don't want to be identified.) Hopkins didn't talk about her distinction prior to the last 4 years, explaining "I didn't want to talk about it for a while because I didn't want people to gossip about it."

She was 19 years old in 1934 when she married Confederate soldier William Cantrell, a widower who was 86. It was a marriage of convenience, arranged because he needed a caretaker and they could not live together without being married.

Hopkins was married four times, had three children, and liked to make pies and cakes.

News link (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hC-fJrTR0gqXtZe5eDZjtzivWn_QD92LIC686)

Photo of the couple in 1936 (http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-09/42179657.jpg) (I'm not sure how long this link will stay available)

Article with photo from 2004 (http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/06/16/civilwar.widow/)

zgh1999
Sep 7, 2008, 03:59 AM
The manner of decay, violence, disease, poverty, destruction, greed, wrongs, crimes that we are witnessing today are the product of the collective habits of the generations of the past and, to a certain extent, the present.

The sooner the generations of the past disappear, the greater the ease of Mother Earth's recovery.

MrSmith
Sep 7, 2008, 07:28 AM
The manner of decay, violence, disease, poverty, destruction, greed, wrongs, crimes that we are witnessing today are the product of the collective habits of the generations of the past and, to a certain extent, the present.

The sooner the generations of the past disappear, the greater the ease of Mother Earth's recovery.
You realize that's a relative concept? If you kill yourself now my great-grandchildren may have a better existence.

Afini
Sep 10, 2008, 02:19 PM
when hitting 120 is like being 60 (in effect doubling life) then ill be happy. personally id love to still be doing marathons into my 70's.

I dunno about marathons, but I've made it a goal to do a 5 mile casually paced jog every morning until I'm to old to do so, then I'll do a 5 mile walk each morning until I croak. Hopefully I'll be able to keep it up, gone good the last couple years! :cool:

The manner of decay, violence, disease, poverty, destruction, greed, wrongs, crimes that we are witnessing today

Thanks to technology, you can use whichever media outlet you'd like to view all sorts of terrible things happening all over the world. Doesn't mean it wasn't happening before you were able to hear about it from halfway around the world. Its just more visible now.

Being a self aware and intelligent creature is a double edged sword!

Doctor Q
Sep 10, 2008, 03:41 PM
At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will be able to show us color movies of his or her childhood.

At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will have been an Internet user all his/her life.

At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will have been born after September 10, 2008, which means that the rest of us won't be discussing it in this thread.

Schtumple
Sep 10, 2008, 07:05 PM
At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will be able to show us color movies of his or her childhood.

At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will have been an Internet user all his/her life.

At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will have been born after September 10, 2008, which means that the rest of us won't be discussing it in this thread.

Scary stuff...

MrSmith
Sep 10, 2008, 07:28 PM
At some point in the future, the world's oldest person will be able to show us color movies of his or her childhood.
I believe watching HD movies of days gone by is going to spoil the awe and fascination the past holds for us. Best we enjoy the sensation while we can.

PyroTurtle
Sep 10, 2008, 10:41 PM
I can only say that the people I know, or know of, that regularly get so little sleep are indeed a little....odd. I think less of that comes from the sleep deprivation and more from the fact that they are alone too much with their own thoughts while the world around them sleeps. Sooner or later this seems to lead to a peculiar disconnect from the things and thoughts of everyday people, but I'd hestitate to call it insanity.

You have no idea how true that is, the disconnect is truly amazing.

MrSmith
Sep 10, 2008, 11:07 PM
My father's great aunt who died at 108 was heard by him to say that "the Kaiser reminded her in some ways of Napoleon". It was 1915, my father was five years old, and she was talking from personal experience, having met both the Kaiser and Napoleon.
A bit late on the ball, but I'd love to know how/why she met them.

n8mac
Sep 10, 2008, 11:42 PM
I suspect foul play!

Anybody know the whereabouts of the second oldest person in the world at the time? Fame is a powerful motive... ;)

link to a Monk episode (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/monk/theshow/episodeguide/episodes/s2_oldman/index.html)

It's from season 2 of Monk if anyone wants to get it.

nakamuramori2
Sep 15, 2008, 08:35 PM
116 yrs old.. i heard we can live up to 120 now..

WildCowboy
Sep 18, 2008, 07:31 PM
Happy 113th Birthday (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/09/18/international/i071302D07.DTL) to Tomoji Tanabe, currently the world's oldest living man! :D

rdowns
Nov 29, 2008, 08:31 AM
Indiana woman dies at 115 as world's oldest person (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_us/obit_oldest_person;_ylt=Ai_yoTepMm3UYMTnRL5H48Cs0NUE)

yorkshire
Nov 29, 2008, 04:04 PM
My great grandma, so I've just been told by the doctor's email, is 111.


Oh wait, no she's ill.

WildCowboy
Nov 29, 2008, 06:08 PM
Thanks for the update, rdowns. The title of world's oldest living person now goes to Maria de Jesus of Portugal. She's 115 years, 80 days old.

WildCowboy
Jan 2, 2009, 01:54 PM
Maria de Jesus has passed away (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/02/international/i094928S22.DTL) at the age of 115. The title of world's oldest person now passes to 114-year-old Gertrude Baines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baines) of Los Angeles.

Blue Velvet
Jan 2, 2009, 01:57 PM
The title of world's oldest person now passes to 114-year-old Gertrude Baines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baines) of Los Angeles.


Bless her. But being noted in this thread doesn't seem a recipe for a long future. ;)

xUKHCx
Jan 2, 2009, 01:57 PM
Maria de Jesus has passed away (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/02/international/i094928S22.DTL) at the age of 115. The title of world's oldest person now passes to 114-year-old Gertrude Baines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baines) of Los Angeles.

Lets hope she can last longer than the (just over) month on this list than the last person managed.

Abstract
Jan 2, 2009, 02:15 PM
^^^Wanna start a betting pool?

Actually, what would be interesting is the statistic on what BV said. I wonder the average number of days between being mentioned in this thread as the world's oldest person, and their death.

Unspeaked
Jan 2, 2009, 03:59 PM
Does anyone actually doubt that the world's actual oldest person is someone living in a remote area that nearly no one has heard of and not the people named in this thread?

skunk
Jan 2, 2009, 04:04 PM
I had a great, great aunt who lived to 108, but she died in 1915. She did meet Napoleon, though, when she was a child.

Abstract
Jan 2, 2009, 04:48 PM
Does anyone actually doubt that....


I do. There are a lot of people who aren't accounted for in this world in the statistics, but the large majority of people living in this world have been accounted for. While there's a chance that the world's oldest person is someone who's unaccounted for, chances are that this isn't the case today, nor was it yesterday. At times, this may be true, but it's only true until he/she dies.

I highly doubt that the oldest person on Earth is always someone who lives in some remote region of the world who we have mistakenly excluded, as you seem to suggest in your post.

MrSmith
Jan 2, 2009, 08:36 PM
I had a great, great aunt who lived to 108, but she died in 1915. She did meet Napoleon, though, when she was a child.
And the Kaiser, too, if I remember correctly from a previous post? I'd be interested in knowing how those meetings came about. The history behind them, as it were.

iJohnHenry
Jan 2, 2009, 08:45 PM
Maybe it was Kaiser-Fraser?? ;)

http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/pioneer/images/postwar.gif

Doctor Q
Jan 5, 2009, 06:10 PM
The title of world's oldest person now passes to 114-year-old Gertrude Baines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baines) of Los Angeles.
She breaks record after record without lifting a finger! She' already gotten the records for the oldest person born in Georgia state, then the oldest American and the last person born in 1894. She's also one of the 30 longest lived people ever.

It's not often that we're honored to have the oldest person here in Los Angeles! Good for you, Mrs. Baines.

xUKHCx
Jan 6, 2009, 09:11 AM
In terms of the longevitiy of people when their name is posted in this thread as the number one. Between the time of posting here and then the subsquent post reporting their passing is on average ~172 days.

The shortest reign is by Emma Tillman who managed 5 days at the top as reported by this thread

Her entry (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=3285702&postcount=145) (24/01/2007) and passing (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=3301227&postcount=153) (29/01/2007)

The joint second shortest reign is by Mitoyo Kawate and Ramona Trinidad Islesias-Jordan who managed 13 days

Mitoyo Kawate's entry (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=560925&postcount=1) (02/11/2003) and passing (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=580722&postcount=28) (15/11/2003)

Ramona Trinidad Islesias-Jordan's entry (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=848877&postcount=43
) (19/05/2004) and passing (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=865087&postcount=46) (01/06/2004)

In terms of the longest reign the title goes to Edna Parker with a whopping 473 days.

Her entry (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=4045406&postcount=166) (14/08/2007) and passing (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=6683623&postcount=204) (29/11/2008)

Not too far off her is Hendrikje Van Andel-Schipper with 456 days

Her entry (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=865087&postcount=46) (01/06/2004) and passing (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=1702670&postcount=103) (31/08/2005)


Elizabeth Jones Bolden holds the amazing and head scratching title of the only person to appear on the list twice. She was reported (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=1702670&postcount=103) to be the oldest person and held that title for 100 days when Marķa Capovilla took the title (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=2768517&postcount=120) a fact that was only reported on her passing though. At which point Elizabeth Jones Bolden came straight back in as the number 1 spot where she lived for a further 105 days.

The average age held by the number one at the time of their passing is just shy of 115. With the eldest being Kamato Hongo, Marķa Capovilla and Elizabeth Jones Bolden at 116 as reported in this thread.

Lets all wish Gertrude Baines a long and happy reign as number one.

skunk
Jan 6, 2009, 09:12 AM
And the Kaiser, too, if I remember correctly from a previous post? I'd be interested in knowing how those meetings came about. The history behind them, as it were.I'd have to look it up in my father's autobiography. He's long gone, so I can't ask him personally...

WildCowboy
Sep 11, 2009, 12:32 PM
Gertrude Baines has passed away (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/09/11/national/a082657D42.DTL) at the age of 115. The crown of world's oldest living person now apparently passes to Kama Chinen of Japan, who turned 114 years old in May.

David G.
Sep 11, 2009, 12:57 PM
I think this is appropriate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC4ZOxpu2rs