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dtrimble
Mar 15, 2008, 07:59 PM
Once upon a time I did programming on the Apple ][ (Assembly, DOS Basic and ProDOS Basic), and then on the PC for a few years (Quick Basic, PDS, and Visual Basic, and Assembly). I started to experiment briefly with C and C++ right before Windows 95 rolled out, but, having then changed careers to focus on marketing, never quite got into programming any more.

I would like to start up my dormant passion on my MBP, and build some unique apps I have in mind for Apple. More hobby oriented--I'm not going to become a professional software engineer, so I won't be interested in returning to school for this.

What and where's the best place to start, both to learn about the technologies in Leopard, the architecture of the systems, languages, ...


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djejrejk
Mar 15, 2008, 08:18 PM
I would simply buy a new(ish) book covering modern mac/c programming... there are plenty of good book out there. You should also install Xcode from your OSX install disc..

dtrimble
Mar 15, 2008, 09:09 PM
I would simply buy a new(ish) book covering modern mac/c programming... there are plenty of good book out there. You should also install Xcode from your OSX install disc..

Thank you kindly. I have Xcode installed. I'm looking for recommendations on specific books and references.


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kuwisdelu
Mar 15, 2008, 09:19 PM
If you're interested in programming for your Mac, then you're most likely looking at learning Objective-C and the Cocoa framework. Objective-C is a superset of C, so if you're a little familiar with that, it shouldn't be too difficult beyond relearning what you may have long forgotten. You definitely don't have to learn C first, but you can if you feel like it.

There's some good resources on this page, with books at the bottom:

http://guides.macrumors.com/Helpful_development_resources

"Cocoa Programming for OS X" and "Programming in Objective-C" are generally well-regarded, I think. Actually, Apple's online documentation on both is also very good, so you can swing over the developer.apple.com and have a look around there, too. Best of luck!

mduser63
Mar 16, 2008, 12:31 AM
"Cocoa Programming for OS X" and "Programming in Objective-C" are generally well-regarded, I think. Actually, Apple's online documentation on both is also very good, so you can swing over the developer.apple.com and have a look around there, too. Best of luck!

I think the two books recommended here are the way to go. The documentation is good, but the books are specifically targeted toward teaching not just to be used as a reference. Programming in Objective-C doesn't cover Cocoa at all, just the ObjC language and Foundation classes, but it assumes no programming knowledge whatsoever. Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X assumes you already know how to program and doesn't cover the language, only the Cocoa frameworks with the exception of a one chapter run-through of ObjC. If you're comfortable with C, and think a one chapter overview of ObjC is enough, you could just go with Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X. FWIW, I was relatively proficient in C, but went through both books and am glad I did. The ObjC gave me a very solid foundation in the language which was very helpful for the second book. Not to mention the fact that I found Kochan to be an absolutely excellent writer.

Jeff Hall
Mar 16, 2008, 03:41 PM
As some have mentioned, Programming in Objective-C is going to get you familiar with the syntax and basic OO (object-oriented) programming concepts.

I've got this book on my table and plan to get into it very soon. I've wanted to get into Mac programming for 3 years but just haven't had time. Now with the release of Cocoa Touch, I think this is going to be a huge opportunity to land a job doing Mac based development (well, as soon as some local shops set up where I live).

Once you've got your feet wet with Objective-C, Apple's got docs on Objective-C 2.0 which you'll want to also learn. Then start reading Apple's docs on Cocoa, and if you want, pick up a Cocoa programming book such as Cocoa Programming for OS X, 2nd edition (or if you can wait, pre-order the 3rd edition at amazon).

Then all you need is a cool idea for a program!

dtrimble
Mar 16, 2008, 07:00 PM
Then all you need is a cool idea for a program!

Hehe. No problem with that one :)


Thank you all for the great recommendations. Kinda exciting...I haven't written a line of code since working on a batch file compiler for DOS in assembly language :-)


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