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theipodgod16
Nov 2, 2003, 08:44 PM
Boy, just look at how biased CNET is today. This whole week, they have had some sort of "ipod killer" articles, today is no exception! Its as if they dont like the ipod at all and want to see it be swallowd up by the PC, just as the Mac OS was. Its driving me nuts. They scored the Dell DJ as being their favorite "ipod killer", and yet Dell has 2 or 3 ads per page of the entire website!!! Folks, CNET should be your last choice for any reviews or reccomendations!


Heres a link to today's "ipod killer" page.
(I dont know if this link will work after 11\2, they might have a new homepage that for once doesnt have an "ipod killer" thing slapped on it)


http://www.cnet.com/

5300cs
Nov 2, 2003, 09:18 PM
CNET sucks a hard one, I stopped going there a long time ago. When the iPod first came out, all the idiot windoze people swamped the comments sections with "D00d, it wont run on windows ohmy god whata piece of crap!!!!!1!!1" and 14,000 other similar comments. Of those, like 3 people actually HAD one, let alone USED one.
Their reviews tend to be pretty picky too, and not just on Apple hardware.
I'd recommend going to another site wherer the IQ level is above room temp. :D

sawaguchishinji
Nov 2, 2003, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by theipodgod16
Boy, just look at how biased CNET is today. This whole week, they have had some sort of "ipod killer" articles, today is no exception! Its as if they dont like the ipod at all and want to see it be swallowd up by the PC, just as the Mac OS was. Its driving me nuts. They scored the Dell DJ as being their favorite "ipod killer", and yet Dell has 2 or 3 ads per page of the entire website!!! Folks, CNET should be your last choice for any reviews or reccomendations!


Heres a link to today's "ipod killer" page.
(I dont know if this link will work after 11\2, they might have a new homepage that for once doesnt have an "ipod killer" thing slapped on it)


http://www.cnet.com/
Don't pay much attention. iTunes Music Store will help iPod to stay #1.

theipodgod16
Nov 2, 2003, 09:52 PM
Don't pay much attention. iTunes Music Store will help iPod to stay #1.

i Agree, i just think that for all of the high praise they gave it (its the top rated one out of the 6 or so they have so far), why do they say "ipod killer" instead of "HD MP3 player"? I guess its to satisfy all of those WINDEll people who like to bash things they dont know about. I think its funny that the Samsung-Napster YP9003282827whatever got like a 20% "love it rating" on the lil survay they had today.

revenuee
Nov 2, 2003, 10:06 PM
Just shows how strong the iPod actually is

i mean if your original be prepared to be copied... as that is also the highest compliment :D

howard
Nov 2, 2003, 10:14 PM
though notice on this chart that the ipod is rated the best...well tied with the iriver thing..

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6497-5093864.html?tag=cnetfd.ld

theipodgod16
Nov 2, 2003, 10:20 PM
look on that on this link http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6497-5093864.html?tag=cnetfd.ld you will notice that where all of the other players say "read review", the dell one says "Highly Recomended", even though it scored lower than a third of all of them! Also notice how it says at the top there, talking about how the ipod cant hold on much longer, it says:

These new hard drive players want a piece of the action, including a new player from Dell.


I seriously think that CNET should be taken down for Biased reviewing, i mean look at who their biggest advertiser is!!:rolleyes: :mad:

Flowbee
Nov 2, 2003, 11:36 PM
The difference between Cnet's Dell DJ rating and the users' (thumbs up/down) ratings is very telling...

Spock
Nov 25, 2003, 02:55 PM
I still love the way the iPod has been TechTV's Fav since it came out. And TechTV is almost owned by Microsoft

Flowbee
Nov 25, 2003, 04:13 PM
Wait until Microsoft releases their own brand of Mp3 player... oops, I mean Windows Media player.

ITR 81
Nov 25, 2003, 05:19 PM
Tech Tv also supports Linux big time on their shows as well as OS X which is normally never seen in most avg computer shows.

If the DJ was an iPod killer then why did my friend at CompUSA sold 100 iPods last week and only had sold 2Dj's. He told me folks ask for the iPod they don't ask for the DJ or Napster. CompUSA has told all their employees to push iPods as well because it's there best MP3 seller.

tazo
Nov 25, 2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Spock
I still love the way the iPod has been TechTV's Fav since it came out. And TechTV is almost owned by Microsoft

what are you smoking? lmao. Just because Paul Allen owns TechTV doesnt mean that techtv is owned my microsoft...jesus...

Fukui
Nov 25, 2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by tazo
what are you smoking? lmao. Just because Paul Allen owns TechTV doesnt mean that techtv is owned my microsoft...jesus...
Yes it does...:D

Anyways, if you look at thier site, they have lots of suff that is from their "Sponsors." They're just news hoars. Who ever pays thier bill get the headlines.

Ever notice that before, David Corsey was suddenly all down on apple, and then, on the Longhorn conference, he just came out with pro-windows articles...etc.
I guess steve just forgot to pay for the PR that week...:rolleyes:

DbAscent94
Nov 27, 2003, 10:09 PM
For what it is worth to add to this discussion, Cnet just rated the new 17"Powerbook the best of breed. Here is a link to their Editor's Choice.
http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_17_inch_PowerBook_G4/4505-3121_7-30568313.html?tag=cnetfd.plug

Squire
Nov 27, 2003, 10:39 PM
They also have an article called "Five Reasons NOT to Buy an iPod" on their site. However, the article just points out some of the things that the competition has up on the iPod (battery life, skipping, price, line-in, and limited choice of music stores). They still go on to say the following:

"...while the iPod rocks, it's not now, nor has it ever been, perfect for everyone."

"With about 1.5 million units sold, the iPod is the most popular MP3 player in the world, and it still makes other players look and feel inelegant in comparison. Don't get me wrong; it's still our favorite overall MP3 player."

"While not ideal for some niche activities, it's still hands down the best-designed MP3 player in the world."


http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5102324-1.html?tag=fs

Squire

ShadowHunter
Nov 28, 2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Squire
They also have an article called "Five Reasons NOT to Buy an iPod" on their site. However, the article just points out some of the things that the competition has up on the iPod (battery life, skipping, price, line-in, and limited choice of music stores). They still go on to say the following:

"...while the iPod rocks, it's not now, nor has it ever been, perfect for everyone."

"With about 1.5 million units sold, the iPod is the most popular MP3 player in the world, and it still makes other players look and feel inelegant in comparison. Don't get me wrong; it's still our favorite overall MP3 player."

"While not ideal for some niche activities, it's still hands down the best-designed MP3 player in the world."


http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5102324-1.html?tag=fs

Squire

When I first read that article a couple weeks ago, it really set in motion this idea in my head that Cnet was biased. The evidence in this thread is even more convincing.

Anyhow, how good can article be when it is constantly contradicting itself? "The iPod is great, but but but" "iPod is killer, but but but". Why don't they just come out and say, "we're looking for any reason to kill the iPod here, but have to cover our asses because most people can see Dell is the number 1 advertiser on our site " already? Geez.

If you're going to publish an article about iPod alternatives, for whatever reason, then do so; just don't be so bogus about it.

Slightly off-topic, are we going to see an increase in stock battery life for the iPod soon? 6 "real" hours is fine for 95% of my life, but that last 5% would like to see at least 10 hours. (Not being unrealistic, just thinking of those long driving days or all-day ski outings)

GeeYouEye
Nov 28, 2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by DbAscent94
For what it is worth to add to this discussion, Cnet just rated the new 17"Powerbook the best of breed. Here is a link to their Editor's Choice.
http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_17_inch_PowerBook_G4/4505-3121_7-30568313.html?tag=cnetfd.plug That's because they don't risk losing a revenue stream from Dell by that review, and have no conflict of interest when it comes to music services.

Follow the money. Explains most everything.

celaurie
Nov 28, 2003, 02:35 AM
Nah, ya think? C-Net has never been very Apple friendly. It fell off my list of places to visit the week after I got internet access and that was MANY moons ago.

Independence
Nov 30, 2003, 09:18 PM
Yeah, CNet is so biased! (http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_17_inch_PowerBook_G4/4505-3121_7-30568313.html?tag=cnetfd.plug)

Or did you only look at the ever so slightly negative stuff?

5300cs
Nov 30, 2003, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Independence ...Or did you only look at the ever so slightly negative stuff? [/B]

Are you being sarcastic, or are you serious?

cnet fell off my list a long time ago, too. There are plenty of other sites to go to that don't suck.

SiliconAddict
Dec 1, 2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by theipodgod16


I seriously think that CNET should be taken down for Biased reviewing, i mean look at who their biggest advertiser is!!:rolleyes: :mad:

Yep because anyone that doesn't think an Apple product is perfect is biased. :rolleyes:

Give me a break.
Lets see. The 17" PowerBook gets an editors' choice award.
The 40 and the 20 GB iPods get editors choice awards as well.

Heck the Dell jukebox gets a score of 8.0 and the iPod 40 and 20 GB units get 9.0 and 8.7 respectively. If you spend more then 5 minutes on the site you would know that they don't give out the editors choice awards to devices that only score high. Price, features, specs, battery life, etc also play a part.


Try READING before you spout out that they are biased:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5102324-1.html?tag=fs


I would suggest that if you’ve never used any other device other then the iPod and are trashing it based on on on…hmmm you figure that one out. Then there may truly be someone who is biased and it may not be c|net.

Versello
Dec 1, 2003, 07:22 AM
0wned :D

dcoltonbrown
Dec 1, 2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by SiliconAddict
Yep because anyone that doesn't think an Apple product is perfect is biased. :rolleyes:

Give me a break.
Lets see. The 17" PowerBook gets an editors' choice award.
The 40 and the 20 GB iPods get editors choice awards as well.

Heck the Dell jukebox gets a score of 8.0 and the iPod 40 and 20 GB units get 9.0 and 8.7 respectively. If you spend more then 5 minutes on the site you would know that they don't give out the editors choice awards to devices that only score high. Price, features, specs, battery life, etc also play a part.


Try READING before you spout out that they are biased:

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5102324-1.html?tag=fs


I would suggest that if you’ve never used any other device other then the iPod and are trashing it based on on on…hmmm you figure that one out. Then there may truly be someone who is biased and it may not be c|net.

Bravo...very well said!

stoid
Dec 1, 2003, 10:03 AM
The 5 reasons to not buy an iPod just got one more of the useful reasons axed. Now with the microphone you can make digital recordings. There goes Number 4! And give me a break, in numbers 2 and 3, the iPod isn't even compared to similar products, so if you want a HD based player, you already don't care about those 2. Yes, I'll admit, that more battery life would be nice, and so number 1 IS legit, and number 5 is semi-legit, but since the other music stores honestly DO suck, you don't really want to waste your time on them. Basically number 5 reads: "Apple didn't bend over and take MS's WMA format hard up the ass, and so you will have to unplug your own bottom if you plan on using this far superior device."

So about 1.2 legit reasons out of 5, that's about a 25%. That fails just about anything, anywhere, ever.

7on
Dec 1, 2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by ShadowHunter
Slightly off-topic, are we going to see an increase in stock battery life for the iPod soon? 6 "real" hours is fine for 95% of my life, but that last 5% would like to see at least 10 hours. (Not being unrealistic, just thinking of those long driving days or all-day ski outings)

What? I've never ran out of "life" for my iPod. I even used it for 9 hours straight. I have the 2G though, but the 3G should get a good 8hours. Though I have noticed the charge being less when I don't leave my iPod plugged in all the time.

stoid
Dec 2, 2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by 7on
What? I've never ran out of "life" for my iPod. I even used it for 9 hours straight. I have the 2G though, but the 3G should get a good 8hours. Though I have noticed the charge being less when I don't leave my iPod plugged in all the time.


Yes, even when powered off, the battery will very slowly discharge.

SiliconAddict
Dec 2, 2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by stoid
The 5 reasons to not buy an iPod just got one more of the useful reasons axed. Now with the microphone you can make digital recordings.


*Slams head into keyboard in frustration* It's like talking to a lead ladened brick wall. http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/images/smiles/frusty.gif

From the article: Apple recently announced the availability of a voice-recorder accessory for the iPod, but there's still no way to use the device to record high-quality audio.

They even note that the recorder is available!!! For the love of god use those skills you were given in grade school and READ!! They are talking about line in high quality recording. The iPod CAN NOT DO THIS. They can get mono voice recordings through a $50 accessory and if this story:
http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/11/20031122184928.shtml

pans out they will be able to do high quality pass through recordings through the Griffin Tech iTalk. (Again more $$ to get this feature vs built in.) Please note the date of this rumor 11/ 22 vs. the C|Net article of 11/5. I'm guessing that C|Net is now expected to be clairvoyant when it comes to articles they write.

music stores honestly DO suck

Why? Have you used Music Match? If you have I'll give you a bit of creditability if not.... I've purchased 2 songs on MM downloading is as easy to accomplish as iTMS. In fact it has some rather cool features iTMS does not. Example. If you let it MM can scan your collection of songs and suggest music that you otherwise might have not considered. I've used this method to find several good songs that I went back over to iTMS and purchased. Say what you will of the iTMS competition there are some good ideas out there that didn’t come from Apple.

beefcake
Dec 2, 2003, 11:26 PM
I think the CNet ratings are biased on the surface. Dell notebooks are always rated much higher than their reviews make them seem. However, if you take the time to read the review and get past the inflated Dell ratings, you'll see that its a very good, objective resource.