I know we talked about this before, but I am starting to think: Apple basically has G4's accross it's whole line, except iBooks, and iMac G3's. So, this leaves room for something new, not sure what's going to be, but we need something, at least something to keep the professionals happy. I mean, Intel and AMD are releasing some pretty good stuff that most likely will slaughter the G4 in the majority of tasks, I know we have good photoshop scores, but we need an overall performance boost. I think Apple has 2 choices here, they can go with the IBM Power 4 chip, or the Motorola "G5" chip. I know the Power 4 does not have Altivec, we need something. But maybe Apple can put out a G5 from Motorola, and then release the IBM Power 5 when it comes out, becasue it is supposed to kick ass. Now, that is my reasoning. I think Apple is going to hold off on the G5 as long as possible, but if it is not at least out by MWSF 2003, we have problems. I think the optimum release date would be MWNY 2002, with it coming out a few months later, like September / October. What do you guys think?