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Mar 17, 2008, 12:38 AM
What is the "Adobe Photoshop" for music recordings/editing on a MAC? Logic?

Mar 17, 2008, 02:10 AM
Unlike the image editing software, the music DAW software has no clear leader that has toppled everyone else. There are many programs out there and each do the job well. The main difference between all of them is interface, and yet, most of them have similar interfaces. As far as the most common I've seen while in the business, there are a few:

Digidesign's Pro Tools
Apple's Logic
Steinberg's Cubase
MOTU's Digital Performer
Ableton Live

Out of those I see Pro Tools to be the most common in recording. Logic, Cubase, and Digital Performer are all great for recording but more aimed at the sequencing crowd.

If you're looking for a music recording software. Check all those out. They're all great programs.

Mar 17, 2008, 07:19 PM
Thanks! Does Digidesign's Pro Tools require their hardware though?

Mar 17, 2008, 07:45 PM
Wintermute posted this in another thread, but basically it goes a long way towards describing/comparing PT/Logic/others. Generally speaking for non-pro applications, PT requires either Digi hardware or M-Audio hardware (when running PT M-powered).
Both apps allow recording on multiple audio tracks dependent on hardware inputs, both allow MIDI data to be recorded and edited, both are non-linear environments, both allow mixing using native and 3rd party plug in, both handle video well, both are simple to use and difficult to master.

Protools limits you to Digidesign hardware that you have to have connected (but can use a range of attendant hardware) Logic allows the use of a lot more 3rd party hardware (inc MOTU and Apogee, prism etc.) There is little wrong with Digi's hardware for project level work, but it's not good enough for high level recording, same is true for the budget Logic compatible hardware.

Both allow HD recording dependent on hardware (up to 192Khz on both systems), and it's entirely possible to begin, edit and mix an entire project in either one exclusively.

You still need to understand recording technique, composition, editing and mixing theory and practice in order to get the best out of either of them.

To my ears, Logic 8 sounds like a toy, this is an observation from a Logic user from 4 onwards, Logic 7 sounds fine, but Logic 8 sounds too close to the artificial sound of Reason and GarageBand to me.

Protools sounds like whatever you put into it, which is what I need from a platform.

The choice (as has been noted here) is about you working style. If you are composing I suggest that Logic (or Neuendo or DP5 or even Abelton Live) is a better choice out of the box and gives a lot of bang for the buck. If you are recording Protools offers a linear workflow and a set of editing tools that Logic has only just caught up with. If you are mixing, neither is really good enough, as they are both native and use the computers on-board processors, mixing in Protools or Logic can only really be achieved without pain on an HD or similarly DSP-rich system.

This is a professional viewpoint. No major studio has one or the other, they have both, and others too. Digi have been at some pains to offer hardware that interfaces well with other software and hardware, and this is the reality of the situation.

Ask yourself what you need to achieve, and for your own sake use your ears, not just the feature list and your eyes.
As I said to my ears. Do you have research to back up your initial claim? If so, I'd like to see it please.

The audio playback from logic is fine, it's the synth/sample/loop/fx sounds that bother me, maybe I should have been clearer.

For many years I was critical of ALL non-linear and digital recording platforms, as they simply didn't sound as good as a well maintained 2" 16 or 24 track analogue recorder, particularly with the last generation of tape formats. However the advent of HD recording and a better understanding of AD/DA conversion has placed Protools (and others) in the position of being a perfectly acceptable replacement for my trusty Studer 820. If pushed I still admit to preferring the sound of analogue tape, but the sheer productivity of Protools et al is hard to ignore

In the end you use what you want to, based on your needs as a musician/engineer/producer.