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MacBytes
Mar 19, 2008, 09:01 PM
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Link: How Apple Got Everything Right By Doing Everything Wrong (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20080319220142)
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Fiveos22
Mar 19, 2008, 09:28 PM
Great article. There are exceptions to every rule and Apple is no exception...zing!

Muzzway
Mar 19, 2008, 09:47 PM
I'm surprised that Steve doesn't ride to work in a helicopter. :p

wymer100
Mar 19, 2008, 09:51 PM
One thing to remember is that noone cares how much of an a**hole you are if you are having success and making people money. If Apple hadn't had success over the past few years and still at 2-3% US marketshare, then Steve probably would have been forced out again.

uicandrew
Mar 19, 2008, 10:40 PM
One thing to remember is that noone cares how much of an a**hole you are if you are having success and making people money. If Apple hadn't had success over the past few years and still at 2-3% US marketshare, then Steve probably would have been forced out again.

i second this opinion. I read "iCon" the biography about steve jobs that caused apple to blacklist the publisher from Apple Store shelves.

that book gave me a very negative opinion about Steve Jobs as a person

Bob Knob
Mar 19, 2008, 11:47 PM
I've been in a room with Steve a few times, if he likes what you have to say or are showing him then he is happy that you "agree with his point of view"... if he doesn't like something about you, you're better off dead.

He can be absolutely brutal if he thinks someone has dropped the ball or didn't put in 100+% on even the most minor detail.

He is the reason Apple is where it is now.

MikeTheC
Mar 19, 2008, 11:55 PM
This, no doubt, dovetails with and helps to shed light on Linus Torvalds' comments on Charlie Rose about dealing with BOTH Steve Jobs and Richard Stallman.

winmacguy
Mar 20, 2008, 12:40 AM
i second this opinion. I read "iCon" the biography about steve jobs that caused apple to blacklist the publisher from Apple Store shelves.

that book gave me a very negative opinion about Steve Jobs as a person

I read it too. I am under the impression that SJ is very much like House MD. A very arrogant arsehole who is a fantastic visionary who sees what other people can't but also a person who doesn't always have the right answer but can see things in other people who have the right idea as long as they can prove to Steve that their iea is the way to go.

Quillz
Mar 20, 2008, 01:13 AM
"Also, I'm one of those people who doesn't care about being right, I just care about success." --Steve Jobs, 1996, "Triumph of the Nerds" documentary

dejo
Mar 20, 2008, 01:19 AM
Daring Fireball's take: How Leander Kahney Got Everything Wrong by Being an Irredeemable Jackass (http://daringfireball.net/2008/03/kahney_jackass)

SkyBell
Mar 20, 2008, 01:21 AM
Very interesting article. And it's right, by todays standards, Apple is doing everything wrong, but it seems to be working well. :)

sushi
Mar 20, 2008, 01:47 AM
Interesting article.

He has vision which is what Apple needs to stay ahead of the competition.

fastred
Mar 20, 2008, 03:15 AM
Daring Fireball's take: How Leander Kahney Got Everything Wrong by Being an Irredeemable Jackass (http://daringfireball.net/2008/03/kahney_jackass)

Why the sanitisation? :)

Gruber is right on the money. Leander K. is a ********** jackass. Typical slack-jawed Wired 'pornalism'.

dejo
Mar 20, 2008, 10:18 AM
Why the sanitisation? :)
Wow, Daring Fireball changed the headline after I posted that link! And I prefer the 'irredeemable' tag. Fit in with better with the 'irredeemably evil' sentiment.

dejo
Mar 20, 2008, 02:00 PM
And Daring Fireball's headline is back to using 'irredeemable' along with an explanation (http://daringfireball.net/).

IJ Reilly
Mar 20, 2008, 02:24 PM
The Daring Fireball rebuttal made some good points, but also committed the common error of using the terms "open platform" and "open source" interchangeably, as though they are the same thing. I'm also not impressed by the use of insults and profanity as a debating technique.

iTeen
Mar 20, 2008, 02:27 PM
This would mean that apple is doing everything CORRECT!,
not wrong.

Nichod
Mar 20, 2008, 02:28 PM
This would mean that apple is doing everything CORRECT!,
not wrong.

Or maybe Apple is doing everything Correctly Incorrectly Correctly Wrong....

rjfiske
Mar 20, 2008, 02:42 PM
The Daring Fireball rebuttal made some good points, but also committed the common error of using the terms "open platform" and "open source" interchangeably, as though they are the same thing. I'm also not impressed by the use of insults and profanity as a debating technique.

I couldn't *********g agree more if you *********g paid me to. :D

dukeblue91
Mar 21, 2008, 01:08 PM
I couldn't *********g agree more if you *********g paid me to. :D

LMAO :D