Poll: Have you suffered any data loss or corruption with Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)?

[MacRumors]

Vote: Poll: Have you suffered any data loss or corruption with Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther)? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=309)

[whocares]

No, but then again, I've played it safe: no FW HD connected, no file vault.

[Chealion]

Its been A-OK with me. Not a single problem. Though I don't have any FW drives or even considered FileVault.

[insidedanshead]

Before doing a clean install of Panther, I backed up all my stuff to my external 60 gig. After the install I tried copying everything back.. to no avail. Almost randomly, the files have gone bad.. throwing random errors (-35, 54, saying the files cannot be found, etc.) literally years of work is now corrupted on the drive. Thus far, INCULDING expose, panther has been a complete waste of my time.. And to top everything.. my friend asked me to help install panther on his sawtooth with a geforce2mx upgrade.. installed panther on that and couldnt get it to boot.. found out that that type of configuration can only support 256 Megs of ram.. so now hes left operating with 512 megs of ram less than with jag. GRRRRRRRR. 10.3.1 come soon!

[Doctor Q]

My only "loss" after an Archive & Install of Panther was that the network host names and IP addresses that I had inserted into the Netinfo database were gone, so I couldn't access my other Macs by name. So I did what a programmer should do: solve it by programming. I wrote a script that lets me insert hostnames and IP addresses into Netinfo from the command line. Now I know I can reconstruct the Netinfo information anytime I want to.

For anyone who is interested, here's a simplified version of my script:#!/bin/sh
# Syntax: addhost hostname ipaddress
USERNO=`id | cut -d= -f2 | cut -d\( -f1`
if [ "$USERNO" != "0" ] ; then
echo "You must be superuser to use this command."
exit 1
fi
NEWHOST="$1"
NEWIP="$2"
if [ "$NEWHOST" = "" ] ; then
echo "Missing hostname."
exit 1
fi
if [ "$NEWIP" = "" ] ; then
echo "Missing IP address."
exit 1
fi
HOSTS=`niutil -list / /machines | awk '{print $2}'`
for ONEHOST in $HOSTS ; do
if [ "$ONEHOST" = "$NEWHOST" ] ; then
echo "Host $NEWHOST is already defined."
exit 1
fi
done
niutil -create / /machines/$NEWHOST
niutil -createprop / /machines/$NEWHOST ip_address $NEWIP
niutil -createprop / /machines/$NEWHOST serves ./local
echo "Added: $NEWHOST=$NEWIP"
exit 0

[jamesatzones]

No problems what so ever with any data loss or software issues. I did have my 4 Gig of RAM that I added to the 512MB RAM on my G5 switch from PC3200 to PC2700 in System Profiler, however I found out it is a glitch in the system profiler that has affected others.

Panther Rocks... :)

[Nermal]

Don't have Panther yet :(

I'm joining ADC soon (maybe even today), so I'll get a "free" copy once I've done that. Here's hoping it all works well.

Update: I have now joined ADC as a student developer :D

[balconycollapse]

I didn't lose any data but i did lose a weekend of my life and alot of love lost for Apple. This was the most pain in the butt upgrade i have ever experienced, and i am not willing to call it "growing pains". Buggy, **** software is more like it. I was forgiving for awhile thinking they "geared" panther towards high end users and the little guy finally needed to upgrade. Beating myself up in fact for not being more of a "high end user", blaming myself basically. But, after Panther installed on my G3 iMac DV with LESS trouble then my G4 something is wrong. I am really concerned about Apple quality control. They finally have the weaponary to compete and i sure hope they don't get mired in customer service problems. I really ********** expect more of this company given their track record. They better get it together and stop using retail software as beta test! Maybe even pay people to find out what's wrong with their software rather then charging them to be developers. I love Panther. Best os ever but the bugs are unacceptable, and i am going to just come out and say it. Expose is a good idea poorly executed. Whenever i try and do fast user switching, drag something to the trash or go to the applications menu "safari menu" for example it triggers it. F9 F10 and F11 are crap for this. Too far away. What would have been ideal is an open apple something command which is more "inuitive" or a right click with a brand new Apple two button expose mouse. ARGHH!

Here is what they need to do!

*nods head to wake up*

Apple struck a deal recently with Pepsi for crossbranding and iTMS music store promotion. I think Apple should kiss butt and do something completely absurd and groundbreaking. Pepsi own Yum! foods which holds Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, KFC. I believe Apple should bring Pepsi into the personal computer market ((P)ep(C)i). Apple should offer to provide every Yum! food brand restaurant a touch screen mac and mechanize their whole workflow, accounting and then..................[balconycollapse fell asleep at the keyboard] *drool*

[redAPPLE]

haven't heard about the "filevault problem".

can anyone please elaborate?

i had copied my files to a fw drive. and i was able to copy back my files to my hard drive.

should i say "thank god" i didn't have the problem stated above? hell yes :)

*oh should not say 'hell'?? *:p

[evil_santa]

I tried out file vault on my g4 733. took about 45 min to encript my files. at first it seemed fine, after after i powed down then restarted, it lost a load of my settings, i have 3 mail account on Mail, 1 .mac and two pop, lost all 3! even though the mail bins were in the library. All my finder settings went, customised tool bars & icons sizes set back to default. Safari lost bookmarks, settings & ical lost everything except it could rember how many calenders i had. itunes couldnt read its "iTunes 4 Music Library" file even after i copied it back from the back up! After i shut down/ loged out i got a message saying something like file vault is using more disk space than it needs and do i want to reclaim this space. I thought it was the mother board battery, but noticed these thing were not happening on my guest user account.:confused: I decided to turn file vault off, as these things only started after turning it on. All ok Now. As far as i can tell it seemed that only apple apps were affected!On my ibook 300mhz (orange clam) i had no problem, but to be safe I turned it off. Thankfully all my calender is backed up on .mac & i keep my mail on the server & had a backup of the itunes "iTunes 4 Music Library" file. The ibook was a clean install, & the G4 was a upgrade from 10.2.8

No problems with my firewire drives, but i dont usualy have them powerd up when i start up.

[mj_1903]

Saw an issue on one PowerBook 12" (FileVault) otherwise all other Macs were ok.

[Heltik]

I upgraded my iBook 500 from 10.2.8 and I had an error occur on the second install disc. This meant that although the computer booted up, the apps had problems, and although the system prompted me to 'try again later' the install still encountered the same difficulties.

This left me without a Dock, and without Expose...

To be fair, I'd upgraded my Mac from 9.1 through every step to 10.3 so I liken this to the equivalent of upgrading to XP from Windows 3.0 on a PC!! No one would ever try that one!!

I'd backed up all my data over a network connexion to my old beige Wintel Doorstop - Now iTunes Music Server - so I was able to retrieve it after a fresh install.

I was somewhat concerned that I'd have to go through the same old hassle of setting up my Epson Stylus Colour 800 under CUPS/Gimp print again - but Apple's included that in the new OS, which they should get credit for - so that was easy as pie.

And the point that I would make to anyone looking to upgrade to Panther is to Backup, and do a fresh install. My old drive was full of cruft from previous installs etc - and was probably slowed by the fact that I still can't defrag the thing... but now that I have a fresh install of Panther, the performance is simply breathtaking over Jaguar.

[bobindashadows]

I completely wiped my drive, backing up previously to my iPod, and my only problem was that I had to use iPodRip to get my music back from my iPod. I also forgot a few things, I.E. my RealBASIC serial number, and so I (again) have to get them to send it to me...

I turned on filevault but I'm definitely not doing the "recover space" option. Does anyone know if it's alright if you just turn off filevault without reclaiming space?

Also: Wouldn't it be embarassing if the iPod used the Oxford 911 chipset? I don't think it is, I don't know much about the actual iPod parts, but if somebody does know, chime in!

[Jerry Spoon]

Haven't switched to Panther yet. I'll let you guys figure out all the bugs and I'll switch over sometime the first half of next year.

Thanks for your help!

[wordmunger]

I've only had three significant problems: couldn't install OpenOffice, Address Book crashes on startup, and can't get palm sync to work.

OpenOffice turned out to be a font book problem; I had to uninstall all my fonts and install just the basic set, then it worked fine.

Still haven't solved Address Book or Palm sync--perhaps these are related.

Fortunately no data loss, though I haven't tried my external FW drive--I only use that for long-term backups.

I'm loving Expose and faster Mail and Help. For me the best feature is faster iDisk. I hated those frisbees waiting for iDisk to mount, even with my DSL connection.

[nagromme]

I don't have a FW drive but I do use File Vault and allow it to reclaim space without affecting any of the apps in question. Panther has been great.

Still, I approach any OS upgrade with caution: BACK UP FIRST and let early-adopter reports filter in before applying to critical computers.

I'm ready to put Panther on my main Mac now, having tested it for a week. But I'll leave File Vault off that machine for now!

[Bunzi2k4]

i've lost some stuff on panther with the file vault, i wanted to see what it does so i tryed it out for a few days, it turns out it messes up ur dock, a lot of your prefs. safari, mail, ichat ect. i've had to reinstall a lot of programs because of it, but nothing important has been deleted... good thing my ipod wasn't connected!

[mrsebastian]

backed up everything to my old g4 tower and had no problems, thank goodness. came darn close to buying a firewire drive for backing up with my new pb17 though, kinda glad i decided to wait.

sorry for all that have lost data! i sure hope apple does something to help out the situation.

[wdlove]

I voted No, so far from what I'm reading just as happy that I'm not using Panther. Doctor Q is lucky that he has programming knowledge to fix the problem. To me that is a foreign language.

[ALoLA]

No problems at all with installation on a 15" flat panel 800 MHz iMac. Only one issue when installing on a 266 MHz tangerine iMac, but that was due to having a newer version of iTunes (4.1) already installed. I think 4.0.1 is on CD2. After unselecting iTunes from the install list, the installation finished without a problem.

[bousozoku]

Overall, I've been lucky. The G3 is fine, but the dual G4/800 didn't go so well.

After an upgrade, the firewall no longer worked, which was most likely data corruption, but when I opened Eudora to get my Stuffit 8 serial number, it thought that the mail index was corrupted and re-built it, losing e-mail from the last 2-3 weeks, including job information. :(

A second installation fixed the firewall problem, but I can't recover from the Eudora problem and the company hasn't responded.

Jaguar broke a lot of printers initially but Panther's release seems hurried.

[jelwell]

Last night I unplugged my firewire drive because my powerbook couldn't read it. This caused a kernel panic and when I rebooted my Keychain file was corrupted and needed to be reset. I backed up the original file, but I haven't found any way to restore it.

This had nothing to do with the firewire oxford bridge problem that some people have. Hopefully only my keychain file was hurt.

joe.

[vwcruisn]

Im running panther on a 17" PB and a 120 GB Cobra FW 400 drive. I plugged in the drive yesterday to retrieve a file and everthing worked fine. No problems. I wasn't aware that there were any issues with FW drives/Panter until reading this today.

How do I know if my files are corrupted? Would something have happened immedietely? I am affraid to plug it back in to check. Does this ONLY affect FW 800 drives? ::crossing fingers::

[Phil Of Mac]

I lost some mail and got some permissions screwed up thanks to FileVault.

[KershMan]

I've put Panther on 3 computers without data loss. My 12" PBook, wife's 12.1 iBook, and our 15" Flat iMac.

The only problems I have experienced is Office v.X seems to crash more often (Word and Powerpoint) and Safari crashes more often.

Overall though I am pleased. I use a FW 400 drive on the iMac and have zero problems.

The 12" PBook runs Office, Outlook 2001 in Classic (my office runs Exchange 5.5 so I can't use Entourage and get calendar info or public folders), Address Book, iCal, iSynch, Palm, and Preview generally all at the same time. I have up to 6 PDFs open in Preview and 3+ Word documents, and even a couple of PowerPoint slide shows open at one time and Expose just works great with it.

Of note, the slides the PowerPoint crashes on Keynote works perfectly with.

[baby duck monge]

ibook g3 800 upgrade install...

zero problems with my external firewire HD (either when plugged in while running or booted up while plugged in). zero problems with filevault. zero problems with anything, really. of course now i need to knock on super-wood. but still. maybe i just got lucky.

[Rower_CPU]

Running FileVault on my PowerBook since 10/25, no problems so far.

[cb911]

i've had problems directly related to Panther, nothing to do with FW HD, or File Vault. don't use either of those (thankfully).

my problem was only a small, but inconvenient one. my Keychain password somehow got changed from my original root password. i just had to delete the keychain and started from scratch again.

at least it's good to see that the majority of people haven't had problems.

[zaphoyd]

I have installed panther on all 5 of my macs. I have used firewire 800 oxford 922 hard drives on several of them.

Bondi iMac
Key Lime iBook
Snow 600Mhz iMac
Powerbook DVI
MDD dual 867

I did mostly upgrades, with one clean install (powerbook) no problems with data corruption. Used a firewire 800 oxford 922 drive for backup and restore files. Applyed the 1.05 firmware patch after 3-4 uses. Only problem I had was with some files getting the wrong icons on the powermac (html documents getting wav icons) stuff that a mac os 9 desktop rebuild would fix. No data loss tho.

I love Panther, it's networking is waaaaay better, as is speed and window management. Much more intuitive and polished as far as preferences and helper apps go.

that is once you install metalfizer and change it back to aqua.

well worth the $199

[Rower_CPU]

Well, I deactivated FileVault just in case my system decides to get wonky. Better safe than sorry, and I can't take chances in the middle of the semester...