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Chad H
Mar 22, 2008, 02:00 AM
Hey guys,
I was wondering which external hard drive you suggested for the mini and where to purchase it? I am looking for something around 320GB. Something for iTunes and photo's. I appreciate any advice

-Chad



richard.mac
Mar 22, 2008, 02:48 AM
there are external drives t macsales.com that match and sit under the mini. i dont own one though.

Cave Man
Mar 22, 2008, 08:35 AM
Just pick up a USB drive from one of the box stores. Every Sunday they have ads with really good prices. No need to worry about Firewire for your purposes.

aross99
Mar 22, 2008, 08:56 AM
I like the NewerTech Ministack from OWC:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ministack/

Works great, has Firewire 400 and USB, and comes in lots of different sizes - including one where you can add your own drive. This is the cheaper V2, but there is also a V3 that has eSata and Firewire 800 ports, although I am not sure how you would eSata on a Mac...

Cave Man
Mar 22, 2008, 10:47 AM
I like the NewerTech Ministack from OWC:

I have two v2 MS and both are noisy (yes, I've checked the thermal probes). That's the problem with plastic enclosures - insufficient heat sink.

Works great, has Firewire 400 and USB, and comes in lots of different sizes - including one where you can add your own drive. This is the cheaper V2, but there is also a V3 that has eSata and Firewire 800 ports, although I am not sure how you would eSata on a Mac...

Well, if he planned on getting a new iMac, Mac Pro or MacBook Pro those options would be nice. Still, I'm done buying plastic enclosures. Aluminum is well worth the price for the silence of the units.

Chad H
Mar 22, 2008, 11:16 AM
Well to be honest I would like to have something that sits under the mini or something discrete. Firewire or USB, doesn't really matter to me though.

VoodooDaddy
Mar 22, 2008, 11:20 AM
I have a cpl of these:

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/5217547

Fanless, very quiet, aluminum enclosure, FW and USB.

If you have a Frys close by you can usually get this for a bit cheaper. Or, there is a USB only version that is about $110-120. I was just there yesterday and saw it for $119 and change.

Edit - just checked the site, here that is http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5030945?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

I also saw this one there and I really liked. Has FW800, like to see how fast transfer rates are with that.

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5517070?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Chad H
Mar 22, 2008, 11:36 AM
I think I'm gonna go check out Walmart and Best Buy to see what they have. :)

robanga
Mar 22, 2008, 12:05 PM
Check this one out;

Seems to go perfectly with a Mini;

http://www.newertech.com/products/ministackv2.php

Leon Kowalski
Mar 22, 2008, 12:31 PM
I was wondering which external hard drive you suggested for the mini
and where to purchase it? I am looking for something around 320GB.

I'd strongly suggest buying the external enclosure and drive separately.
That way, you know what drive you're buying -- plus it's often cheaper,
and you get the benefit of the drive manufacturer's 3-5 year warranty.

Here's Newegg's highest-rated USB/FW400 enclosure; it also gets rave
reviews from many online reviewers. It's aluminum, fanless, and by far
the easiest-to-assemble enclosure anywhere -- just four screws attach
the drive to the quick-swap slide-in drive tray; no messing with cables
or connectors.

Icy Dock -- USB/FW400 enclosure @ $45 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817198004)

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=986&pageID=2689

Add whatever SATA hard drive you like -- 320 GB should be about $75,
500GB about $100. Check Newegg for prices, and tomshardware.com
for performance benchmarks. Don't buy more capacity than you expect
to need in the next 12-18 months; drive prices are dropping rapidly,
and it's easy to upgrade the Icy Dock enclosure. You can even buy an
extra slide-in drive tray and swap drives in less than 1 minute.

Icy Dock -- extra drive tray @ $19. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994038)

OWC enclosures also have a good rep, but many of them are still based
on obsolete IDE drives. OWC's SATA-based enclosures tend to be their
more expensive "quad" models with FW800 and eSATA interfaces -- but
FW800 and eSATA interfaces are useless with a Mac Mini.

LK

VoodooDaddy
Mar 22, 2008, 12:34 PM
I think I'm gonna go check out Walmart and Best Buy to see what they have. :)

Was at BestBuy yesterday. They had a 750gb Mybook with USB/FW 400/800 I swear for $170ish?? However, Im not seeing that on their site.

It was this one, and again, I swear it was somewhere around $170-180.

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-750GB-Studio-Esata/dp/B000WGM1L8/ref=dp_ob_title

clyde2801
Mar 22, 2008, 12:50 PM
I've had a handful of externals, and luckily, I've never had any trouble with any of them <knocks on wood>.

From what I read and heard, hard drives usually act up right out of the box if they're going to malfunction. For that reason, I'd advise getting one out of a box store instead of online.

vansouza
Mar 22, 2008, 01:18 PM
I got a fast Firewire external and boot from it, makes my mini faster then if running from the internal drive.

MacFanBoyIIe
Mar 22, 2008, 01:21 PM
Sigh... do people ever search before posting?

Try the Newer Tech MiniStack v3. I have 2 of them.

EDIT: P.S. - I don't think they are too noisy.

Cave Man
Mar 22, 2008, 02:07 PM
Try the Newer Tech MiniStack v3. I have 2 of them.

Why would you recommend the V3 to someone who only has FW400 and USB?.

EDIT: P.S. - I don't think they are too noisy.

On my V2s, the fans are on most of the time. Kind of defeats the purpose of the silent Mini.

fhall1
Mar 22, 2008, 02:14 PM
How about this one?

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HC-3502H&cat=CSE

Leon Kowalski
Mar 22, 2008, 04:01 PM
How about this one?

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HC-3502H&cat=CSE

Not bad for $19 -- IF you have an obsolete IDE drive around --
but it would be a very bad idea to buy an IDE-based enclosure
for a new drive.

The world switched to SATA several years ago, and IDE drives are
rapidly becoming less available and more expensive. For example,
newegg.com currently lists 8 IDE drives versus 50+ SATA drives
in the 500GB-and-up size range.

LK

VoodooDaddy
Mar 22, 2008, 04:24 PM
Not bad for $19 -- IF you have an obsolete IDE drive around --
but it would be a very bad idea to buy an IDE-based enclosure
for a new drive.

The world switched to SATA several years ago, and IDE drives are
rapidly becoming less available and more expensive. For example,
newegg.com currently lists 8 IDE drives versus 50+ SATA drives
in the 500GB-and-up size range.

LK

You act like IDE is impossible to find and wont work even if you do. Color me stupid, but IDE will be around a while yet, even if most things have moved on to SATA. No need to worry about 10yrs down the road.

Leon Kowalski
Mar 22, 2008, 04:33 PM
Color me stupid, but IDE will be around a while yet, even if most things
have moved on to SATA. No need to worry about 10yrs down the road.

...buy what you like, antiques are a great investment,

LK

VoodooDaddy
Mar 22, 2008, 04:36 PM
...buy what you like, antiques are a great investment,

LK

Then why even buy a computer because what you buy today will be out of date in 3yrs? :rolleyes:

barrydmd
Mar 22, 2008, 06:17 PM
Check this out at the Apple Online Store. It's made to sit on top of the Mac Mini:
Iomega 500GB MiniMax Desktop Hard Drive

Barry

JG271
Mar 22, 2008, 06:20 PM
Was at BestBuy yesterday. They had a 750gb Mybook with USB/FW 400/800 I swear for $170ish?? However, Im not seeing that on their site.


Yeah the Mybooks are really nice and quiet and quite small too - although they won't fit right under your mini.

Cave Man
Mar 22, 2008, 08:48 PM
...buy what you like, antiques are a great investment,

LK

The only reasons for buying a SATA drive for an external enclosure are (1) you need eSATA or (2) you need a TB of storage in a single drive. The OP needs neither. The bottleneck here is FW400 and USB controllers, not the PATA interface.

Chad H
Mar 22, 2008, 08:48 PM
Well, I just picked up a new mouse and a mybook 320GB HD. Working flawless!:)

MacFanBoyIIe
Mar 22, 2008, 08:51 PM
Why would you recommend the V3 to someone who only has FW400 and USB?.

Why wouldn't I? Why limit your connection capabilities? Maybe he will want to use the enclosure with another computer someday that has fw800 or eSATA.

On my V2s, the fans are on most of the time. Kind of defeats the purpose of the silent Mini.

Those are v2s. I have v3s. I don't have a problem with the fans being too loud or on all the time on mine. Ever heard of "to each their own?" :rolleyes:

Leon Kowalski
Mar 22, 2008, 09:00 PM
Why would you recommend the V3 to someone who only has FW400 and USB?

Neither one would be my first choice, but the v2 uses obsolete IDE drives
while the v3 uses SATA. If I cared about the form factor or the USB hub
features, I'd go with the v3.

OTOH, they're both plastic, noisy, and cost much more than good fanless
aluminum enclosures.

LK

Leon Kowalski
Mar 22, 2008, 09:19 PM
The only reasons for buying a SATA drive for an external enclosure are

(1) you need eSATA or

(2) you need a TB of storage in a single drive.


(3) Someday, you might want to upgrade to 1TB -- or more!

(4) You want a good selection of modern drives with big caches.

(5) You'd like to use popular drives that often go on sale at good prices.

...can you name ONE advantage of buying an IDE enclosure?

LK

Cave Man
Mar 22, 2008, 11:54 PM
Neither one would be my first choice, but the v2 uses obsolete IDE drives while the v3 uses SATA. If I cared about the form factor or the USB hub features, I'd go with the v3.

The V3 is more expensive than the V2.

OTOH, they're both plastic, noisy, and cost much more than good fanless aluminum enclosures.

And do those less expensive aluminum enclosures also come with USB2 and Firewire hubs?

If you re-read the part of my post that you edited out, you'd see I'm no fan of the MiniStacks.

Cave Man
Mar 22, 2008, 11:57 PM
...can you name ONE advantage of buying an IDE enclosure?

1. You need to replace your internal PATA drive and need to clone it.

2. You have a PATA drive laying around that you'd like to use as extra storage.

nhcowboy1
Mar 23, 2008, 01:20 AM
The v2 and v3 are both plastic, noisy, and cost much more than good fanless aluminum enclosures.

Is there a "good fanless aluminum enclosure" that matches the footprint of the mini?

MacFanBoyIIe
Mar 23, 2008, 04:58 AM
Is there a "good fanless aluminum enclosure" that matches the footprint of the mini?

First, I'll say again, I have two v3s. I don't have any problems with them. The fans are there, but I don't mind and don't consider them noisy.

Another option, close to the same footprint, would be g-technology's G-Drives.

USB2.0/FW400:
http://www.g-technology.com/Products/G-DRIVE.cfm

USB2.0/FW800/400/eSATA:
http://www.g-technology.com/Products/G-DRIVEQ.cfm

I have one of the older G-Drives and it works great. I've heard great things about all their other products too. The only caution would be the company was recently bought out. I don't know much more about the situation, but whenever there's a takeover like that the outcome can be good or it can be bad. Anyone have any info on the new owner?