Mac OS X 10.3.1

[MacRumors]

Mac OS X 10.3.1 is making the rounds, bringing Panther up to build 7C103. No details on the exact fixes, but Webdav, Terminal and IOStorage appear to be modified.

[Powerbook G5]

So when will 10.3.1 be out for update?

[buseman]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
So when will 10.3.1 be out for update?

When it's done, hopefully ;)

[Powerbook G5]

Hopefully soon, there are a number of bugs that keep Panther from being an awesome OS upgrade such as DHCP not issuing and releasing addresses like it should, Backup not working, and a number of application incompatibilities and instabilities.

[Foocha]

I agree, Panther is pretty flaky right now - we need 10.3.1 sooner rather than later!

[McToast]

The QPS 8x4x32x CDRW Firewire problem better be fixed too.

[daveL]

I find it interesting that the fix for the fw800 data corruption issue is coming from Oxford, NOT from Apple. I wonder if all the tech rags that dumped on Apple for this problem will update the stories to reflect the fact that the fix was Oxford firmware, not Panther patches.

No sight of a 7Cxxx build on ADC, yet.

[gopher]

Originally posted by Macrumors
Mac OS X 10.3.1 is making the rounds, bringing Panther up to build 7C103. No details on the exact fixes, but Webdav, Terminal and IOStorage appear to be modified.

Could IOStorage have anything to do with fixing the Firewire bug? If it does, that would really make a lot of people happy.

[Lancetx]

Originally posted by daveL
I find it interesting that the fix for the fw800 data corruption issue is coming from Oxford, NOT from Apple. I wonder if all the tech rags that dumped on Apple for this problem will update the stories to reflect the fact that the fix was Oxford firmware, not Panther patches.

That was my thinking all along. If this was an "Apple problem" why then are the fixes coming in the form of firmware updates to the drives from the manufacturers and not as OS fixes from Apple? Of course the tech rags aren't following up on this aspect of it, their entire agenda was to make Apple look bad anyway.

[mrsebastian]

i personally hope they do something about networking, because the new way panther does it, is a pain in the ass :mad:

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by buseman
When it's done, hopefully ;)

Exactly. If it's rushed, it has a good chance of causing further issues.

[IndyGopher]

Originally posted by mrsebastian
i personally hope they do something about networking, because the new way panther does it, is a pain in the ass :mad:
Would you care to elaborate on this? From what I have seen, "the way Panther does it" is that it actually works.. I never got reliable Windows->Mac networking to work for more than a day or two with Jaguar.

[crees!]

Personally, I haven't had any issues with Panther. Everything has worked flawless for me.

[Powerbook G5]

I've had a problem with using the network every since upgrading to Panther. The DHCP won't release and obtain a new address itself, instead, I have to choose manual and whenever the internet stops working, I have to type in a random IP address to get it to work again.

[reckless_0001]

Originally posted by crees!
Personally, I haven't had any issues with Panther. Everything has worked flawless for me.

same here... pessimists

j/k :D

[chickengrease16]

no problems here. networking is actually really good -- windows (samba) and afs actually works infinitely better than jaguar, and no problems with DHCP here at all. nor any problems with application incompatibility, and i even copied over mostly all of my apps from my jaguar backup, and they still work fine.

[crees!]

I actually just had to call Apple up about Activity Monitor not running. I just had to run Disk Utility and that corrected the permissions. But what I wanted to make note of is the tech guy I talked to said "good" when I told him I did a clean install of Panther.

Those who are having problems how did you install panther?

[youngr40]

Lets hope they address some issues.

I find Mail keep crashing, and loosing preferences.

I loose preferences generally

Safari often crashes...

I have happily sent back details to Apple when each App crashes since it asks me to do so.

[chickengrease16]

Originally posted by crees!
But what I wanted to make note of is the tech guy I talked to said "good" when I told him I did a clean install of Panther.

FWIW, i did an *upgrade* from jaguar and no problems.

[Wonder Boy]

considering there are yearly upgrade to the OS, i just assume wait for 10.4 and try to save some money. but from what i hear, 10.3.1 will be welcomed.

[synthetickittie]

I LOVE panthers and have had no absolutely no problems except safari crashes A LOT, Id say about 3 times a day, doesnt sound like a lot but it is when Im used to it nothing on my mac ever crashing and Im not just using little browse and write apps but more like photoshop, xcode, maya,...

[gopy]

Originally posted by crees!
Those who are having problems how did you install panther?

I installed fresh on an erased disk (internal TiBook/550) and I could only access the house network (three Macs behind a Linux server and DSL modem). It's very odd, but I just turned on Internet Sharing on another Mac, which was only upgraded, not even Archive&Install, and works fine-- G4 733.
Other than that....

[BeakerAndGreg]

I did a clean install. In fact since I had only had the powerbook for about 2 weeks before I got Panther I didn't even bother restoring anything. I just did clean installs of the apps I had for it.

My issues were:

Mac->windows network just plain didn't work, I lost my mail prefs twice, and suffered through file corruptions in my home directory. Pictures and files editing with "vi" seemed especially vunerable to becoming corrupted.

A couple of days ago I lost ALL of my preferences, backrounds, settings, finder icon sizing, everything. I got desperate and turned off File Vault.

Since then I have have had 0 problems with anything and my Samba stuff is working fine.

:confused:

[Iconocat]

It seems as if I should consider myself very lucky! I installed (clean) Panther on the 24th. Ever since then it's been 90% perfect. The only instance of it not being flawless was when I installed the first security update. My DHCP was schizo once I rebooted from the update. A reset of the router and modem and a reboot of my mac and all was well again! That has been the one and only problem I've had with the OS or any other programs.

Admittedly I was prepared for ANYthing considering I installed on the very night it was released. I am really sorry for the people Panther seems to be covering up in the litter box. :( Hope you all get scooped out soon!

:rolleyes: Yeah, I don't get enough sleep.

[AppleMatt]

Originally posted by youngr40
I find Mail keep crashing, and loosing preferences.

I loose preferences generally


Are you nearly out of hard-drive space?

I think we can assume that the modifications to Terminal are the same as the latest security update, as each point release includes all these. I desperately want to see improved nVidia drivers (who doesn't) and the few Expose bugs ironed out.

I hope that this application crash reporting works out, in the few few weeks (months?) it won't be as good because many apps broken by Panther will crash, but after it all settles down it could prove to be a very valuble tool to Apple. What about the "silent" crashes, shouldn't they be reported too?

AppleMatt

[Powerbook G5]

I did a clean install, myself. Right now the only real problems are Backup not working and my DHCP problems. I went onto the Apple boards and apparently it's a widespread issue with Panther on school networks in general since most networks are set up in half-assed attempts so Panther has a hard time with them, so I guess it's more the school's idiocy than Apple. Most software problems were taken cared of with updates, although I've noticed that MS Office is now prone to a lot of unexpected quits and beach balls that I never got with Jag. I'm not too sure what is going on with that. Besides that, Panther has been pretty awesome.

[ITR 81]

The only issue I have is with Safari which I know they are working on update now. To me Safari is the only issue I have with it which can always be upgrade separate from the OS.

[MacSlut]

I've upgraded several Macs with no problems whatsoever...none...nada.

I've done each of these as updates, no clean installs or reformats. I can't help but wonder if some of the problems people are having are actually due to doing clean installs and having apps that for one reason or another don't like this.

Maybe it's an issue of people having problems due to 3rd party system hacks.

The one thing that I do, which maybe others are not, is I always run whatever disk tools are available for the OS before I've ever done an install.

So with OSX, I've always done a fsk -y or fsk -f, along with repairing permissions before doing an update.

[jayscheuerle]

Apple needs to resupport all the 3rd party video cards that mysteriously vanished in 10.3. My 2nd monitor with an ATI xClaim 3D plus is a useless 640x480, 8 color mess!!

idiots...

:mad:

[bluedalmatian]

I've found log in times to be about 3 times longer than under 10.2 but I'm not complaining cos 10.3 has cut a minute - yes a minute - off the bootup time!!

[kryten2000]

I'l be waiting a few days after its released to avoid problems
like the 10.2.8 fiasco a month or so ago

[MattG]

The one thing I wish they'd fix is the problem my G4 is having with waking up from sleep. I hit a key to wake up, it wakes up for a second or two, then goes back to sleep, wakes up again, etc. I end up having to power it down and restart it. I know it's a problem specific to the PM G4 and the Radeon 9000 card
( http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61697 ), and I don't understand why it hasn't been fixed yet. The technote says it only happens with 10.2, but it's happening with Panther as well.

[mustang_dvs]

Just don't get over-anxious about this release. ADC members have yet to take a crack at anything later than the release build, so I'd say it's still a ways off before 10.3.1 is released.

I'd prefer that Apple take its time and address all the issues it can before it sets 10.3.1 upon the masses. As it is, only one of my machines -- my TiBook -- is running Panther 7B85, the remaining 7 are still using Jaguar 10.2.8, because they need to be productive and reliable.

Trust me, I'm chomping at the bit to upgrade our Xserves to Panther Server, but I'm waiting until the x.x.1 release.

[e-coli]

Originally posted by McToast
The QPS 8x4x32x CDRW Firewire problem better be fixed too.

And the Canon LIDE 50 problem. Worked fine in Jag. Now the driver installer app crashes upon load rendering my scanner useless. :rolleyes:

[nighthawk]

Originally posted by crees!
I actually just had to call Apple up about Activity Monitor not running. I just had to run Disk Utility and that corrected the permissions. But what I wanted to make note of is the tech guy I talked to said "good" when I told him I did a clean install of Panther.

Just because a technical support guy says "good" does not mean that the other way is any better or worse. It could just mean that there is less for the tech support guy to worry about. It is a heck of a lot easier to trouble-shoot a clean install with a person who set it up than a system that has been running for months and says, "I donno, my brother set it up."

[cubist]

Originally posted by IndyGopher
... I never got reliable Windows->Mac networking to work for more than a day or two with Jaguar.

Trying to do Mac -> Windows networking with VPN over SMB is a good way to get eternal beachballs, and it seems worse under Panther than Jaguar.

[areyouwishing]

i have panther on my new powerbook and jag on both my work computers, I really don't like working on jag anymore and haven't had any issues with Panther. However...

The networking is different though, I have yet to figure out how to "connect to server" and have the thing display on my desktop without typing in the IP address.

[myoung6923]

I'm not sure why so many people seem to be having so many problems with Panther. I didn't do a clean install - I even installed an old hard drive into a firewire enclosure with 10.2.8 on it & all the apps still run fine on 10.3. Networking couldn't be easier - I've got 2 windows 2000 machines on my network & they connect even easier than on Jaguar (which worked good too). You can just click on network on the left side of any open window and *poof* panther finds any shared volumes - click on them, type login & password info & you're in. Or, connect to server once by typing in the IP and it remebers it next time. Even easier - if it could be - once you've mounted a shared volume, drag it's icon onto your dock & make sure to click to save it's password on your keychain - then you can just click it's icon on your dock next time & don't even have to type a login or password! Wow!! Love IT!!

[crees!]

Originally posted by e-coli
And the Canon LIDE 50 problem. Worked fine in Jag. Now the driver installer app crashes upon load rendering my scanner useless. :rolleyes:

I have the LiDE 30, but haven't tried installing it yet. Hell... let me try now....

.....

edit: The installers for mine worked just fine. I suggest downloading them again from canon's site.

[jayscheuerle]

Ah... the sweet truth about having a 3% marketshare is that you only have about 37 beta testers and can't possibly be exposed to the variety of problems that your installed base (much more than 3%) will face.

On the plus side, you can be sure that everyone over at Apple is hearing about the bevy of problems associated with 10.3.

On the down side, if you didn't buy your machine within the past 24 months, there's a good chance that Apple won't give a flying fsck about you unless there is a threat of a legitimate lawsuit.

I'm personally tired of holding my breath for this company to take ethically sound steps and am reverting back to 10.2 until either some vigilant programmer tackles the issue with a creative hack or Fruit Co. 's bean counter realizes it's affecting a significantly large segment of the user base to affect popular opinion and possibly future sales.

The ethically valiant image that the fanatics hold true died long ago and the pragmatists among us have long since side-stepped the Kool Aid.

Let us watch it play out....

[Rower_CPU]

"37 beta testers". Mmmmkay...

Apple has an extensive seed program for its OS updates, including volunteers (such as myself), as well as ADC members and others.

My feeling is that for some reason they felt the need to hit the 10/24 deadline regardless of the bugs still present. Who knows why.

I agree it's bad practice, but pointing it at lack of testing is just not accurate.

[WM.]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I've had a problem with using the network every since upgrading to Panther. The DHCP won't release and obtain a new address itself, instead, I have to choose manual and whenever the internet stops working, I have to type in a random IP address to get it to work again.
Do you mean "re-lease" instead of "release"? Hyphens are wonderful things. :)

Anyway, have you tried the "Renew DHCP Lease" button in the Network prefpane?

HTH
WM

[Powerbook G5]

That button doesn't do anything at all when I click on it. The only way I can get it to work is if I take the IP address and manually change the last series of numbers with some random number every so often. I never had the problem in Jag, don't have the problem with my other PowerBook in OS 9, and my roommate doesn't have the problem with XP. I installed OS X onto my other PowerBook and resulted in the same problem, so it must be Panther that is the culprit.

[WM.]

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
That button doesn't do anything at all when I click on it. The only way I can get it to work is if I take the IP address and manually change the last series of numbers with some random number every so often. I never had the problem in Jag, don't have the problem with my other PowerBook in OS 9, and my roommate doesn't have the problem with XP. I installed OS X onto my other PowerBook and resulted in the same problem, so it must be Panther that is the culprit.
Mmkay. Hopefully they'll fix it.

A little off-topic, but it seems to me like, aside from the FireWire drive issues, 10.3.0 has been quite a bit more stable and bug-free than 10.2.0, but people still complain about how horrible Panther is...we just can't expect that it'll be perfect. But it's been running very, very well on our iBook SE and iMac G4, FWIW.

WM

[Powerbook G5]

I can understand that there will be bugs, it's just that the DHCP issue is pretty major and I need the internet to be reliable for schoolwork since my college is so obsessed with being "paper free", so an issue like this is a major problem which has me stuck switching back to my old PowerBook running OS 9 more than a few occasions.

[JohnGillilan]

When Safari ask me if I want to add a new login/password to my keychains, I say yes. This has always been helpful, but in Panther Safari will not remember them. There has been some issues with my keychains in iChat and Mail as well.

In addition, I can not get Appleworks to run. It immediately quits every time I try to launch it.

Hopefully 10.3.1 will address some of these issues.

[AhmedFaisal]

1. I want to be able again to hardmount network drives. Since they removed the network browser function in the Connect to Server dialog they should at least allow me to hardmount stuff out of the Finder and also they should list softmounted servers on the sidebar because softmounted servers going offline freezes Finder as successfully as hardmounted ones.

2. I want the input line in the File>Open dialog of programs again. I am working a lot with hidden folders and having to create an icon to them in the sidebar before I can access its content in programs is a royal pain in the ass. I want to be able to manually enter the paths again in the open dialog.

3. I finally want an option to completely detox the bouncing crap in the dock!! Ok, there was a haxie from unsanity that did the job so far but I believe this should be an option in the way you configure the dock in system preferences in the first place.
Regards,

Bjoern

[DillHarris]

No problems here either... Fresh install...

[jayscheuerle]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
"37 beta testers". Mmmmkay...

Apple has an extensive seed program for its OS updates, including volunteers (such as myself), as well as ADC members and others.

My feeling is that for some reason they felt the need to hit the 10/24 deadline regardless of the bugs still present. Who knows why.

I agree it's bad practice, but pointing it at lack of testing is just not accurate.

Alright, I was being facetious, ;) , but they had already given themselves to the "end of the year" before setting 10/24 and considering how many people use two monitors AND the fact that these monitors were supported in 10.2... this either seems negligent or intentional. As opposed to what I do not know.

-anxiously awaiting a fix or a hack that works for me...

[Juventuz]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Apple needs to resupport all the 3rd party video cards that mysteriously vanished in 10.3. My 2nd monitor with an ATI xClaim 3D plus is a useless 640x480, 8 color mess!!

idiots...

:mad:

EXACTLY what he said, here at work we've got about five people that had dual monitors and now their second monitor is a uselss 640x480, 8 color mess. Using the said ATi xClaim 3D card.

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Alright, I was being facetious, ;) , but they had already given themselves to the "end of the year" before setting 10/24 and considering how many people use two monitors AND the fact that these monitors were supported in 10.2... this either seems negligent or intentional. As opposed to what I do not know.

-anxiously awaiting a fix or a hack that works for me...

It would have been nice that Apple would mention it prior to your upgrading.

Still, as so many of us have learned, legacy equipment doesn't live forever in Mac OS X. My Rage 128 card is fine, for now, but I expect that they will define a new minimum and this won't be that capable.

[lynnpye]

Originally posted by Lancetx
That was my thinking all along. If this was an "Apple problem" why then are the fixes coming in the form of firmware updates to the drives from the manufacturers and not as OS fixes from Apple? Of course the tech rags aren't following up on this aspect of it, their entire agenda was to make Apple look bad anyway.
What bugs me about this line of thinking is this...if it was a problem with the firmware, strictly speaking, then why did these drives not have such problems with 10.2.* and below?

I'm guessing that the firmware patch is coming out because Oxford is trying to patch around a problem Apple introduced with 10.3 that was not present with 10.2 and earlier. Another possibility is some sort of specification detail. For instance, Oxford may have implemented according to a spec, but sloppily. 10.3 may have tightened up on how the spec is read, so now Oxford's drives have problems that only show up with 10.3. A firmware fix could then fix how the spec was implemented. Mind you, in such a case, Oxford wouldn't necessarily have done anything *wrong* just that 10.3 wanted things to be a little tighter.

[nighthawk]

Originally posted by AhmedFaisal
1. I want to be able again to hardmount network drives. Since they removed the network browser function in the Connect to Server dialog they should at least allow me to hardmount stuff out of the Finder and also they should list softmounted servers on the sidebar because softmounted servers going offline freezes Finder as successfully as hardmounted ones...

This bothered me for a while too... you could navigate to the "Network" through the Finder window, but I hated doing that every time I wanted to go to this network directory. Also, Panther seems to store a separate instance for every time I navigate to that server, so when I sleep and wake again I have several messages saying the server is no longer available.

I finally figured out the "Connect To Server" thing, and it is not as Mac friendly as it should be. All you need to do is type in the name and directory in the Server Address field, and Appletalk servers will work fine. For some reason, it assumes that the connection protocol is "atp" and I couldn't get other protocols to work yet.

So to access an Appleshare server that is on your local network, just type the computer name, and the disk name like this:

"[MacNetworkName]/[SharedDirectory]"
or
"Server/Shared"

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Alright, I was being facetious, ;) , but they had already given themselves to the "end of the year" before setting 10/24 and considering how many people use two monitors AND the fact that these monitors were supported in 10.2... this either seems negligent or intentional. As opposed to what I do not know.

-anxiously awaiting a fix or a hack that works for me...

I figured as much, but the felt the need to respond anyway. :p

I think the testing efforts were good, though arbitrarily cut short, as we've both noted.

What's the dual monitor issue?

[jayscheuerle]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
What's the dual monitor issue?

3rd party cards (of course) not being supported, namely some ATI xClaim , GeForce 4, and Formac cards, which worked fine in 10.2. I get a 640x480 16 color display (useless).

Supposedly 10.3 doesn't look to the cards for ROM drivers (or something like that). There was a terminal hack that made it look, and that worked for some people, but made 10.3 unbootable for others (me included).

There are at least 3 threads dedicated to this over on the Apple discussion boards. I just hope there's a quick fix or I'll be booting back to Jag.. :(

[Rower_CPU]

Yeah, that's no fun. 10.3.1...any day now...;)

[e-coli]

Originally posted by crees!
I have the LiDE 30, but haven't tried installing it yet. Hell... let me try now....

.....

edit: The installers for mine worked just fine. I suggest downloading them again from canon's site.

The driver app for the LIDE 20 and 30 is different from that which installs the necessary things for the LIDE 50.

Also, ImageCapture works with the LIDE 20 and 30, but not with the 50. Why would they support the cheapy models and not the good one?

Harumph.

[Levon River]

Originally posted by daveL
I find it interesting that the fix for the fw800 data corruption issue is coming from Oxford, NOT from Apple.

What the Oxford fix does is update 922 firmware from a version fully and correctly supported by Apple in earlier OS versions, but that Apple disastrously omitted support for in Panther.

I wonder if all the tech rags that dumped on Apple for this problem will update the stories to reflect the fact that the fix was Oxford firmware, not Panther patches.

Why should they? If anything, they should applaud Oxford for providing a fast fix for users who became victims of Apple's disastrous omission while Apple (creator of firewire) took the fiddling-while-firewire-burns pose that it had nothing to do with them.

Levon River

[macdrew]

well, found the update and did what any true mac user would do... installed it and rebooted... it's only about 1.3 in size, and don't see anything obvious except for the US flag is now stuck up on the menu bar and I can't remove it... Limewire still doesn't work even though there were some Java fixes... which i had more info, but it seems solid, just like 10.3.

My wish list for fixes are: It remembering when I don't want to view all the HD, Folders in a window when I tell it NOT TO... and stronger stickiness of the main Boot Volume to stay in the UPPER RIGHT Corner... I have a LOT of desktop icons, but now very close to the upper right corner, but STILL my HD jumps around... Fix this!!!

[Powerbook G5]

I'm always having to move my HD icon, too. It moves especially after I finish playing a game. I think switching screen resolutions causes it to jump to the left for some reason.

[daveL]

Well, you're the only one that has it. It's not up on the developer site or software update.

[Kingsfoil13]

I installed the 10.3 upgrade over a 10.2 clean install on my Dual 2Ghz G5, and have had no problems. Both before and after, I have yet to suffer any crashed apps (save for my first-ever Out of RAM error when rendering a scene of 1,000,000+ polygons in Cinema4D) or networking problems. I routinely share files with my IBM laptop and other machines on my network.

A 10.3. update would be welcome, but I'm not waiting with bated breath. Some genuinely useful new features (or those that we miss from earlier OS Xs! ) would be much better than another 10.2.8 fiasco. Right now Panther is rock-steady as far as I'm concerned.

(At least my external LaCie 200GB is USB 2.0 .... )

[Powerbook G5]

Overall, Panther has been pretty good. I think I finally tackled a majority of my networking problems by complaining to the IT guys in the library for the past two weeks about the lousy network and they did some changes, but the network still goes down at least once a day because their XP Pro servers keep getting viruses and overload and become unstable during high traffic times. Now that Backup 2 is out and finally working with Panther and a majority of my programs have been updated to work with Panther, it is running pretty well. Funny thing, though, Age of Empires II sometimes crashed on start and Word unexpectedly quits on opening a file (both MS programs, too) now for whatever reason. I did a cache cleaning, permissions repair, and ran the daily and weekly scripts in terminal so hopefully that will fix that. I'm rather pleased in general, and I even found that even more programs that previously refused to work under Classic finally install and run so they must have did something to improve it.

[stingerman]

I've had no problems with Panther either. But, I do know that I am going to need to buy a new Mac soon. 5 Years and this baby is still kicking butt. A 500 MHz G4 with Panther is very quick. I am thinking many of the users having problems have machines that pre-date the 1999 Mac's. I think if that is the case (notice the word "if") you'd be better off buying or leasing an eMac, their cheap and its time. I won't blame Apple next year if 10.4 doesn't work on my Mac, it'll be Six years. I got more than my monies worth. (I've gone through 5 Wintels in the same time frame.)

[paulypants]

i hope apple fixes some irritating issues SOON:

• panther unable to assign and release IP addresses (annoying when you have to reset cable modem everyday)

• disc image does not reappear on desktop after burns

• fontbook is USELESS

• if i have to explain to people 1 more time to dump sherlock prefs in order for their channels to show up i'm going to scream

• when downloading pics from internet always get two instead of one

• when showing icon preview on desktop half the image is grey

other than that i love panther! :P

[visor]

on mobile computers...

I do like the new of of browsing via network to the netwark shares... but how the hell can I unmount them again without becoming root in the shell ond fiddling with the mount command?

I start and restart and hit 'disconnect' about a million times when these popups alert me that my share has gone... only to pop up again after I said to disconnect, ok or whatever...

I just don't get it.
Also, when using samba 3.0 on linux, there are quite some problems with the encoding of filenames. Tunrs out that the finder just - what? - crashes? no, it doesn't crash, the network share just disapperas, never to be used again.
It seems I fixed that with using latin-1 instead of the default UTF-8 fileencoding on the linux samba.

I did get suspicous after seeing a lot of Chinese characters instead of my german Umlauts...

I've also experienced problems with big directories. after dividing the files into two dirs, there are suddenly no more problems...
strange.

Anyway, I hink panther is still a great improvement over jaguar.

[negrito]

Originally posted by visor
on mobile computers...

I do like the new of of browsing via network to the netwark shares... but how the hell can I unmount them again without becoming root in the shell ond fiddling with the mount command?

I start and restart and hit 'disconnect' about a million times when these popups alert me that my share has gone... only to pop up again after I said to disconnect, ok or whatever...

I just don't get it.
Also, when using samba 3.0 on linux, there are quite some problems with the encoding of filenames. Tunrs out that the finder just - what? - crashes? no, it doesn't crash, the network share just disapperas, never to be used again.
It seems I fixed that with using latin-1 instead of the default UTF-8 fileencoding on the linux samba.

I did get suspicous after seeing a lot of Chinese characters instead of my german Umlauts...

I've also experienced problems with big directories. after dividing the files into two dirs, there are suddenly no more problems...
strange.

Anyway, I hink panther is still a great improvement over jaguar.

those are also my thoughts! i just can't believe how they could mess up network browsing so bad.

in fact to disconnect fom a server you have to go to the server you connected to and you have to chose 'eject server ' from the action menu.

it would be so simple: just show me all connected servers in my side bar list just like mounted disk images or harddisks. and also show them on my desktop and everything would be ok.

it is horrible to see the beachball and you don't know why just because of a server that disconnected. btw this is also a bad behaviour from the finder that it freezes when a server disconnects.

[Rower_CPU]

Network servers still show up on the desktop if you have your Finder prefs set accordingly. You can still eject them the "old fashioned" way.

[nek]

Originally posted by youngr40
Lets hope they address some issues.

I find Mail keep crashing, and loosing preferences.

I loose preferences generally

Safari often crashes...

I have happily sent back details to Apple when each App crashes since it asks me to do so.
Have you been using FileVault? Maybe I'm wrong but aren't those the kind of problems mentioned with the bug in FileVault.

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
Apple needs to resupport all the 3rd party video cards that mysteriously vanished in 10.3. My 2nd monitor with an ATI xClaim 3D plus is a useless 640x480, 8 color mess!!

If it worked fine in 10.2, then I agree that its odd that it doesn't work in 10.3. But you also have to consider the fact that even ATI doesn't support their own cards older than XCLAIM VR 128 in Mac OS X. Drivers for 3rd party cards are largely the responsibility of the 3rd parties.

[centauratlas]

One thing I notice is that the Bluetooth menu item disappears on its own sometimes.

[gopher]

10.3.1 officially out, and still no fix that doesn't require a vendor update their firmware as far as Firewire is concerned. Still no official recognition of the Firewire 400 issues people have been having. The Readme that comes with the update even says contact the vendor for the firmware update.

My four vendors have no firmware update available.

[Powerbook G5]

The thing I was hoping it would also address is my IP address not reissuing by itself like it should. I haven't been able to stay online long enough to tell if it is fixed or not, but by tomorrow I should see if the internet is working like it should. As far as Expose not working smoothly, it seems smooth as silk to me, perhaps it's a video card issue? I just wish the windows didn't get as blurry when it is active.