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StateCCM
Mar 31, 2008, 06:28 PM
does anyone else agree?

the only time my PC crashed is when i overclocked my Intel Pentium 4 up to 6 GHz using a liquid nitrogen cpu cooling a couple years ago. (yeah it was a pretty stupid thing to do)

Some Macs do come with trial software

and Mac OS X just like vista needs your permission before you install something (which i dont have a problem with)



killmoms
Mar 31, 2008, 06:29 PM
Wait, you mean an advertiser will protray their products in the most positive light in comparison to their competitors?!

SAY IT AIN'T SO! :eek:

:rolleyes:

MacDawg
Mar 31, 2008, 06:31 PM
Ads are biased by their nature



Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

StateCCM
Mar 31, 2008, 06:31 PM
its stupid how they point out flaws in windows, but those flaws are also on the mac.

Killyp
Mar 31, 2008, 06:31 PM
Well durr they are adverts...

although you say about crashes, I haven't had Windows crash on me as much as it seems to crash on my friend's PCs (just because they don't look after them) but it's still unstable in comparison to OS X in my experience...

match311
Mar 31, 2008, 06:31 PM
The trial software I got on my macbook pro was... Microsoft Office :p:rolleyes:

Killyp
Mar 31, 2008, 06:34 PM
its stupid how they point out flaws in windows, but those flaws are also on the mac.

No I wouldn't say so. 114,00 viruses targeting Windows (I believe the figure is actually much higher than that now) and none for OS X.

Also, Windows based PCs do tend to be bogged down with crappy trial software, whilst Macs only tend to come with 2-3 trial apps on them (counting the Microsoft Office suite as 1 app, which it kinda is).

zioxide
Mar 31, 2008, 06:35 PM
Find me an advertisement that isn't biased.

Oh wait, you probably can't.

Zwhaler
Mar 31, 2008, 06:37 PM
Also, Windows based PCs do tend to be bogged down with crappy trial software, whilst Macs only tend to come with 2-3 trial apps on them (counting the Microsoft Office suite as 1 app, which it kinda is).

Yeah, and Apple doesn't charge you to have it removed beforehand (cough Sony)

GSMiller
Mar 31, 2008, 06:40 PM
Yea they are biased, but what ad isn't?! I found it rather ironic when Office 2004 for Mac spontaneously quit while I was finishing up an essay for school, and it brought the Ellen Feiss (http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=VMt2MK67-Qw&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//video.search.yahoo.com/video/play%3Fp%3Dellen%2Bfeiss%26ei%3Dutf-8%26fr%3Dsfp%26tnr%3D21%26vid%3D1296120193%26frame%3Dt&iurl=http%3A//i.ytimg.com/vi/VMt2MK67-Qw/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskJdPErWFCtapgPIon_AB1bL) ad to mind...

andy.barron
Mar 31, 2008, 06:42 PM
I think those other ad's are biased also, you know the ones, all of them!:)

dsnort
Mar 31, 2008, 06:55 PM
You don't say!!!:rolleyes:

mkrishnan
Mar 31, 2008, 07:05 PM
its stupid how they point out flaws in windows, but those flaws are also on the mac.

I think you mean they unfairly portray Windows PCs or that they make false advertisement. For them to be biased simply means that they advocate a certain position (e.g. that Macs are better; almost all advertisements advocate the position that their product or service is superior). Being unjust or unfair or advertising falsely (e.g. making factually incorrect statements about either their own or the competitors' products) is a different matter entirely. Almost all commercials are biased; particularly in the developed world, fewer commercials engage in deliberately false advertisement, although it does happen.

P.S. How long have you been studying English, and what's your native language, out of curiosity? You should keep up with it! Learning new languages is great. :)

heatmiser
Mar 31, 2008, 07:21 PM
Some of them are funny, while some come off as presumptuous. I bought a Macbook in spite of those ads; certainly not because of them.

sushi
Mar 31, 2008, 07:25 PM
Funny me, I always thought ads were biased.

Can you imagine a company launching an ad for their new XYZ device, only to say, that their XYZ sucked and company B's version is much better?

Don't think you'll ever see that happen.

Wild-Bill
Mar 31, 2008, 07:28 PM
You don't say!!!:rolleyes:

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=110194&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1207007653




ROTFL. HAHAHAHAHHA :p:p:p

stainlessliquid
Mar 31, 2008, 09:04 PM
Yeah, and Apple doesn't charge you to have it removed beforehand (cough Sony)

Sony stopped charging for that after like 1 day and it was only limited to one country, and youre right apple doesnt charge you to remove it, they simply wont remove it at all.

clevin
Mar 31, 2008, 09:10 PM
No I wouldn't say so. 114,00 viruses targeting Windows (I believe the figure is actually much higher than that now) and none for OS X.

Also, Windows based PCs do tend to be bogged down with crappy trial software, whilst Macs only tend to come with 2-3 trial apps on them (counting the Microsoft Office suite as 1 app, which it kinda is).

apple said 114,000. Bogus numbers since its mostly malwares and adwares if you actually read the source.

You believe the figure is actually much higher now? where is your data? how many active virus for vista?

If you don't know, maybe do some search first?
Funny me, I always thought ads were biased.

Can you imagine a company launching an ad for their new XYZ device, only to say, that their XYZ sucked and company B's version is much better?

Don't think you'll ever see that happen.

for a computer technology company, its pretty rare to lie like apple, so blatantly.

erikistired
Apr 1, 2008, 12:44 AM
the only time my PC crashed is when i overclocked my Intel Pentium 4 up to 6 GHz using a liquid nitrogen cpu cooling a couple years ago.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

i couldn't stop laughing at this point and realized this thread must be an early april fools joke.

digitalnicotine
Apr 1, 2008, 12:50 AM
LOL! This is the best April Fools thread I've read so far, as well as the only April Fools thread I've read so far (in case that wasn't obvious). :)

The Flashing Fi
Apr 1, 2008, 02:01 AM
The trial software I got on my macbook pro was... Microsoft Office :p:rolleyes:

You didn't get iWork on there? What about Aperture (I believe that is the one I'm thinking of)? I also got MS Office too as a trial.

GoKyu
Apr 1, 2008, 02:11 AM
Mac OS X just like vista needs your permission before you install something (which i dont have a problem with)

Thankfully that's *all* OS X needs your permission for (ok, aside from Onyx, which asks once in awhile too) -- Vista is hardcore asking your permission on trivial stuff, and that's what gets annoying :)

-Bryan

illuminous
Apr 1, 2008, 02:28 AM
StateCCM, are you a Windows fanboy?

teknikal90
Apr 1, 2008, 06:12 AM
of course its biased
what a stupid question

jonbravo77
Apr 1, 2008, 09:58 AM
apple said 114,000. Bogus numbers since its mostly malwares and adwares if you actually read the source.

You believe the figure is actually much higher now? where is your data? how many active virus for vista?

If you don't know, maybe do some search first?

Where is your data for this statement.

for a computer technology company, its pretty rare to lie like apple, so blatantly.

And what exactly has Apple lied about?

Pixellated
Apr 1, 2008, 10:16 AM
Show me an AD that isn't biased. That would take you a while...:apple:

clevin
Apr 1, 2008, 01:40 PM
Where is your data for this statement.

Im surprised you didn't know it, goto apple's get a mac page, there is one page specially for "virus", it tells you the data source in fine print. follow the information and goto source's website, do a simply registration, and you can download the report and read for yourself.

At least I read it, you want to discuss about it? read it first :)

And what exactly has Apple lied about?

hummm, let me count:

when safari beta for windows was out, apple said "secure from day 1", and in 48 hours, security hole was reported.

Claiming windows has 114,000 virus, while its source said mostly the numbers are malwars and adwares. of course, when implying windows, apple didn't bother to tell how many virus are active, especially for vista, do you know the #?

Every battery information about mac laptops are inaccurate at best.

Claim updating to vista need update of everything while switch to mac is hassle-free? hello? That is obviously ask windows users to switch, how exactly does that save any hassle? Users are asked to buy even more hardwares!

No hunting for drivers.... Hello, I have a HP LJ 1020, is SJ gonna magically transfer a driver to my MB w/o me doing anything?

When windows users do a software update, it offers a new app? Does M$ do that when you update Office?

Claiming NBC want to charge $4.99/episode of TV, while, now we all know how much they are asking.

Claiming OSX can "squeeze every bit of performance out of Intel’s engines", unlike windows. hello?

Portray PC as equal to "windows" computer in every ads, hello? "Mac runs windows too"?

...

Sky Blue
Apr 1, 2008, 04:09 PM
iMac are Bad Ass


fixed!

jonbravo77
Apr 1, 2008, 04:29 PM
Im surprised you didn't know it, goto apple's get a mac page, there is one page specially for "virus", it tells you the data source in fine print. follow the information and goto source's website, do a simply registration, and you can download the report and read for yourself.

At least I read it, you want to discuss about it? read it first :)

Sorry, I don't have time to sit in front of my computer to look at every little thing. Adware and Malwar are classified as viruses in the broad spectrum of things. To many casual computer people anything that infects a computer without your knowledge or consent that causes computer related issues is considered a virus. As a company Apple understands what people know and will use that information to boost the sells. That's Advertising.


hummm, let me count:

when safari beta for windows was out, apple said "secure from day 1", and in 48 hours, security hole was reported.

Probably true, but you are running a program that was originally created for Apple by Apple in Windows, I'm sure iTunes and Quicktime have the same issues with running on a Windows machine.

Claiming windows has 114,000 virus, while its source said mostly the numbers are malwars and adwares. of course, when implying windows, apple didn't bother to tell how many virus are active, especially for vista, do you know the #?

I'm sure there are to many to count, but that # has to include Malwar and Adware and Spyware and Trojan Horses and so on.

Every battery information about mac laptops are inaccurate at best.

SAme with PC's, that's life. No one can make a battery that can last as long as they say. There are to many factors involved i.e: Temp, location, elevation, use, whether you allow it to fully discharge before charging it. Any battery manufacturer not just computers can not make a battery that is guaranteed to last the time they say. I don't know why they even give a time frame.

Claim updating to vista need update of everything while switch to mac is hassle-free? hello? That is obviously ask windows users to switch, how exactly does that save any hassle? Users are asked to buy even more hardwares!

Not exactly to sure what you are saying, I moved from a PC to a mac a year ago and I love it. Yes, are there things that you need to re-learn? of course, same thing could be said from someone switching to Linux or from mac to windows. When Vista came out a lot of the older hardware could not be used, fact, and this piece of info comes directly from IT professionals. Just another Marketing ploy.

No hunting for drivers.... Hello, I have a HP LJ 1020, is SJ gonna magically transfer a driver to my MB w/o me doing anything?

Well, gee. If Apple or any other computer maker or OS maker had every single driver for every single hardware out there there would be no room on your system for any files or anything else. They put in there what is the most used and most popular on the market and then a few others. I know the 1020 it's old.

When windows users do a software update, it offers a new app? Does M$ do that when you update Office?

?

Claiming NBC want to charge $4.99/episode of TV, while, now we all know how much they are asking.

go get cable

Claiming OSX can "squeeze every bit of performance out of Intel’s engines", unlike windows. hello?

Yup, windows can do this, until it gets bogged down by endless amounts of cached files and registry items that you can't seem to find to save your life to quite and free-up processor power.

Portray PC as equal to "windows" computer in every ads, hello? "Mac runs windows too"?

And runs windows way better in my opinion. :)

Sorry for the long post but I wanted to answer all of this. Not trying to be a jerk about it but everything that I see you write you seem to hate Apple with a passion. Apple is just like ever other company, they want to sell their goods and they will no matter what. it's all marketing advertising...

Peace:cool:

chagla
Apr 1, 2008, 10:41 PM
StateCCM, are you a Windows fanboy?
there is no such being.
when bill gates says jump, we say "@#%#^ you!" to him,
when steve says jump, a certain group of folks would say "how high".

;)

anyways, these commercials are biased, half truths, and highly annoying. if macs are so great, they should be able to stand on its own without presenting windows in a negative manner. they just love to diss windows so much but answer this -

if you despise windows so much, why did you even make "boot camp" to allow running windows? ($$$?) of course! i mean wouldnt that despicable damned thing from microsoft contaminate the lovely mac? why put such trash on a beautiful mac?

yah..i know..

AstroHouse
Apr 1, 2008, 10:58 PM
of course its biased
what a stupid question

But they are clever. :p.

I've always admired Apple's marketing.:rolleyes: