Mac OS X 10.3.1 Build 7C107 Seeded

[MacRumors]

Apple has seeded Mac OS X 10.3.1 build 7C107 to Apple Developers for testing. Few details available at this point except that this build is to address known problems in 7B85.

[applekid]

Here's to hoping fixing bugs with Fast User Switching and File Vault!

[blenz]

together with Safari's once in a while crashing.
And that External FireWire Drive issue (though firmware fixes have been available in the past few days).

[Jack White]

saw this on a bit torrent site..rather wait for the officail one

[dho]

Originally posted by Jack White
saw this on a bit torrent site..rather wait for the officail one

did you say bit torrent

[mustang_dvs]

Originally posted by Jack White
saw this on a bit torrent site..rather wait for the officail one

Why even mention it? Personally, I'm a bit disappointed that someone who actually paid to be an Apple Developer would even consider throwing away the membership for the sake of posting an internal testing build to a P2P service.

I guess people just don't make sense.

As it is, I'm glad Apple isn't rushing this update out the door, in the apparent interests of being thorough.

[AppleMatt]

I agree it's strange that someone would risk their membership by posting Apple files, but then I suppose the actual penetration into the Mac community is minimal, plus they get a "feel-good" factor about it. The same happened with the internal Longhorn builds, I guess that if the leaker had been caught he would have lost his job.

I hope Apple takes a long time on this update and resolves the majority of bugs that crept through, currently the file size is very small indicating that only a few areas have been fixed (remember all point updates include the security updates aswell). Of course, a performance update wouldn't go amiss ;).

AppleMatt

[yamabushi]

I think that these sorts of leaks are only positive for Apple since they demonstrate that progress is being made.

[centauratlas]

this is what macosrumors (http://www.macrumors.com) says about it:
...expected to eliminate problems with data corruption on Firewire 800 storage devices, fix a handful of user-level crash bugs, and may modestly improve startup performance and Fast User Switching.
...

[e-coli]

please fix file vault.

[ITR 81]

Never had issue with filevault or fast user switching. Only Safari for me is an issue anything to keep it from crashing will help me out.

[gwuMACaddict]

Originally posted by dho
did you say bit torrent

hehehe

it's about time. i'm a little surprised that they didn't have these issues fixed before the initial release

[applekid]

No "fast-user switching" problems?

That's odd. My MX700 mouse preferences got mixed up with another account. I had a few others, but I can't remember them. :)

But one of them had something to do with Exposé not working properly.

[blenz]

file permissions issues is one other thing I hope they fix in the update

check this out
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?128@79.pIghaGI2kra.2@.599b6ad4

[rodnarms]

Safari crashes often for me. I hope they fix that soon.

[neutrino23]

Originally posted by rodnarms
Safari crashes often for me. I hope they fix that soon.

Curious. Safari never crashes for me and I use it on three different machines.

Not to deny what you are going through. I am always curious about things that only happen on some computers when ideally all computers (of one brand) should be alike.

Obviously something is different between your computer and mine.

Do you try repairing permissions? Running Fsck? Does it only crash on certain sites?

[neutrino23]

Originally posted by ITR 81
Never had issue with filevault or fast user switching. Only Safari for me is an issue anything to keep it from crashing will help me out.

Be cautious with FileVault. There is a known issue. It will cause problems if you agree when it asks to clean up unused space.

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by neutrino23
Be cautious with FileVault. There is a known issue. It will cause problems if you agree when it asks to clean up unused space.

Not always. I recovered space 3 times with no bad effects. I have deactivated it, though, with all of the reports of data loss/corruption.

[jeffmc425]

I don't know about you, but I have a problem serving FW 400 drives on the iMac, under panther, to the other Panther macs on my net. I do not have an issue with 10.2.8.

[Pipian]

Errgh.. I Lost my SHerlock 3 Apple Channels, how do I get them back?

[zweigand]

Originally posted by Pipian
Errgh.. I Lost my SHerlock 3 Apple Channels, how do I get them back?

it looks like they update from apple! ...when i first opened sherlock i had no channels ...i left it open for a little bit and they started popping up one by one ...must be downloading from apple's website

[voyagerd]

The 10.3.1 update is supposed to fix FileVault but not the drive issue. You still have to D/L the new firmware.

[centauratlas]

I am curious about the following:

In /System/Library/Extensions/AppleStorageDrivers.kext/Contents/PlugIns

There is a new (not in 10.2.8) kext. It is the "OxfordSemiconductor.kext".

Has anyone tried removing this to see if that solves the 10.3 Firewire problem? (e.g. reverting back to the generic SBP-2(?) drivers)

There is NOT an updated version of that .kext in 10.3.1 7C103 that I saw. I haven't seen 7C107.

The only remotely IO related item is:
/System/Library/Extensions/IOStorageFamily.kext/
which may or may not fix it.

Ordinarily I wouldn't even consider using the beta, but I have about 6 Firewire drives and this is a big issue.

[mustang_dvs]

Originally posted by centauratlas
this is what macosrumors (http://www.macrumors.com) says about it:...

HAHAHA! I find that rather amusing, given that, by their description, 7C103 is a comparatively small old build and that 7C107 was available, apparently, before they published their web update on Friday.

[centauratlas]

Originally posted by mustang_dvs
HAHAHA! I find that rather amusing, given that, by their description, 7C103 is a comparatively small old build and that 7C107 was available, apparently, before they published their web update on Friday.

What I find amusing too is that everyone else that has mentioned 10.3.1 has *only* mentioned 7C103. No one else has mentioned anything above that build #. And that I have yet to see anything besides 7C103 anywhere (e.g. bittorrent).

For example:
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33533
One of the pay subscription Mac Dailies.
Macintouch.

The 7C103 build was built late (US eastern) on Tuesday of last week. Consequently probably not available until Wednesday for many people.

All the changes referenced above for 7C107 seem to be in 7C103.

For what it is worth.

[mustang_dvs]

centauratlas: Let's just say that I've seen both (no, not through P2P networking) and there are a significant number of differences between 7C107 and 7C103.

Going into those changes in a public (or non-ADC) forum, however, will run the risk of losing a $3,000 ADC membership, which I have no intention of doing.

7C103, from what I gather, has made its way, in a big way, onto the P2P services, which is why most people who claim to be "in the know" reference it. 7C107 is just making its way onto those networks (a poor decision by those distributing it) and has yet to make an impact beyond the developer community.

One poster in this forum had posted, verbatim, the 7C107 seed notes for ADC members, but I PM'd them and asked that they change the post, for their own sake. Trust me, 7C107 is real and noteworthy.

[arn]

Originally posted by mustang_dvs
One poster in this forum had posted, verbatim, the 7C107 seed notes for ADC members, but I PM'd them and asked that they change the post, for their own sake. Trust me, 7C107 is real and noteworthy.

7C107 is now the official 10.3.1 release.

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2003/11/20031110161256.shtml

arn

[rauf]

Installed 10.3.1 update to my iBook (G4 800, 640Mb Ram), no hassles at all.

Incidentally, the iBook G4 is the first ever troublesome bit of hardware from apple I've ever bought (wierd missing airport networking first time, then trackpad jumpy second time). Two bug ridden attempts at installing Panther, tried all sorts, but eventually zapping the PRAM did the trick.

10.3.1 works a treat, totally hassle free as far as I can tell in the last hour or so of use.

[cjohnson]

I currently have 7C103 installed, but the final 10.3.1 does not show up when I check Software Update. I have tried removing the receipt pkg, but no luck.

Any ideas?

[mustang_dvs]

Originally posted by cjohnson
I currently have 7C103 installed, but the final 10.3.1 does not show up when I check Software Update. I have tried removing the receipt pkg, but no luck.

You can find the stand-alone 10.3.1 Update in their Software Updates section of www.apple.com/support .
The direct link for the file is: www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n120271

Not to sound snooty, but this is another example of why downloading Operating System software off of P2P networks is a bad idea. Developers can take the risk of playing with these pre-release builds because we're expected to find bugs and Apple delivers incremental developer updates to fix any problems that pop up. End users never see those updates (or at least aren't supposed to) because they aren't expected to have installed the pre-release builds.