Car Interior in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

[Soulstorm]

Well, I was more than happy to see the newest Gran Tourismo Prologue as downloadable on the Greek PSN Store. I downloaded it, and I am now playing it. however, I must admit I have one major complaint: The interior of the car displays the steering wheel on the right of the car! In Greece (and most countries, I presume) we have it on the left!

I believe it would be fine if that game was released in the UK, but every other country has the steering wheel on the left! Is there any way of changing this?

EDIT: Also, when trying to download the update, I always get the message "an error occured during download". Does anyone else have this problem?

[gloss]

Well, I was more than happy to see the newest Gran Tourismo Prologue as downloadable on the Greek PSN Store. I downloaded it, and I am now playing it. however, I must admit I have one major complaint: The interior of the car displays the steering wheel on the right of the car! In Greece (and most countries, I presume) we have it on the left!

I believe it would be fine if that game was released in the UK, but every other country has the steering wheel on the left! Is there any way of changing this?

EDIT: Also, when trying to download the update, I always get the message "an error occured during download". Does anyone else have this problem?

Japan drives right-handed cars. So does Australia. :)

That first one probably explains why the game is right-handed.

[Soulstorm]

Japan drives right-handed cars. So does Australia. :)

That first one probably explains why the game is right-handed.

But this is greece. In Europe.

[gloss]

But this is greece. In Europe.

But the game is from Japan. In Asia.

I doubt they'd take the inordinate amount of time it would probably take to revise and release the game with left-handed models if they're still in the process of working on GT5 proper.

Or maybe there's an option for it somewhere. Who knows.

edit: It looks like cars have been replicated naturally according to their source country's policies. So British and Japanese and Australian cars will be right-hand drive, while American, German, etc will be left-hand drive.

Get used to it, I guess.

[Antares]

We can organize a boycott of the game to insist that they fix it. Maybe in the full GT5 it will be an option. If not, I do say we boycott....

This should be an easy matter of just flipping the model. :mad:

[siorai]

We can organize a boycott of the game to insist that they fix it. Maybe in the full GT5 it will be an option. If not, I do say we boycott....

This should be an easy matter of just flipping the model. :mad:

But they're trying to make the game and vehicles as authentic as possible right? So if you're driving a car that was originally released in Japan, why would it have a left-hand driver's seat? There's nothing to "fix" other than your own desire to have everything the way you want it to be done regardless of whether it's correct or not.

[Antares]

But they're trying to make the game and vehicles as authentic as possible right? So if you're driving a car that was originally released in Japan, why would it have a left-hand driver's seat? There's nothing to "fix" other than your own desire to have everything the way you want it to be done regardless of whether it's correct or not.

But a Japanese car released in the US has the wheel on the left side. :confused: It would be a different story if a car was only released in Japan and was included in GT5....then, it would make sense to have the wheel on the right side.

However, I guess it also depends on where the game takes place. If there is a track in England or Japan, then it would makes sense for the "non-imported" cars to have the wheel on the right side. If the track is in the USA or Greece, then it would makes sense for the non-imported (or localized) cars to have the wheel on the left side. Now THAT would be realism. :)

[gloss]

But a Japanese car released in the US has the wheel on the left side. :confused: It would be a different story if a car was only released in Japan and was included in GT5....then, it would make sense to have the wheel on the right side.

However, I guess it also depends on where the game takes place. If there is a track in England or Japan, then it would makes sense for the "non-imported" cars to have the wheel on the right side. If the track is in the USA or Greece, then it would makes sense for the non-imported (or localized) cars to have the wheel on the left side. Now THAT would be realism. :)

I think the assumption is that they are including all cars in their original, native form, unmodified for international use. And it's pretty common to ship, say, a Japanese RHD car to the Nurembergring to race/do testing. There's no need to change the handedness of the vehicle unless you're driving on public roads and national laws require it.

[Soulstorm]

The best thing is to include an option for the steering wheel. That's the right thing to do. And since I live in a country where all cars have the steering wheel on the left, I want it on the left.

edit: It looks like cars have been replicated naturally according to their source country's policies. So British and Japanese and Australian cars will be right-hand drive, while American, German, etc will be left-hand drive.

Actually, I bought a Ford Focus 2006 model. The steering wheel is on the right.

[gloss]

Actually, I bought a Ford Focus 2006 model. The steering wheel is on the right.

Well, I'm not sure what to tell you, then. Perhaps they're all RHD because Sony wants it that way. :D

I agree there should be an option, but I'm pretty sure that the fact that it's a Japanese game is probably the reason behind the RHD situation in the first place.

[Zwhaler]

But they're trying to make the game and vehicles as authentic as possible right? So if you're driving a car that was originally released in Japan, why would it have a left-hand driver's seat? There's nothing to "fix" other than your own desire to have everything the way you want it to be done regardless of whether it's correct or not.

I agree... except that it is a videogame and people pay money for options (especially those of personal preference).

[pcypert]

Wah.

Seriously. Wah. Boohoo.

A game that people love for it's authenticity is now getting on people's nerves for being too authentic?

I'd prefer if the cars could ram through walls and had spikes coming out of the tires to mess up other players...can that be in the options too?

I assume you still press left to turn left even with the wheel on the other side? So I guess you can still drive. Play the game. I've driven in both kinds of cars (odd that Cambodia which borders Thailand does the "US" way and Thailand does the "UK" way) and you shift the same and it's really not that big a deal.

Paul

[Soulstorm]

A game that people love for it's authenticity is now getting on people's nerves for being too authentic?

An authentic game is authentic when it gives you an authentic experience. Such a mistake is a serious fault that hurts the game's authenticity, not adds to it. In Gran Tourismo 4 you could see the person behind the wheel, although there was not any cockpit view. That person was always on the left, at least in the version I had.

I'd prefer if the cars could ram through walls and had spikes coming out of the tires to mess up other players...can that be in the options too?
No, it can't. Gran Turismo is all about realism. I don't think there's more to say here, other than I want feature that adds to the games realism, which is the games purpose. The example you mention does not add to that.

I assume you still press left to turn left even with the wheel on the other side? So I guess you can still drive. Play the game. I've driven in both kinds of cars (odd that Cambodia which borders Thailand does the "US" way and Thailand does the "UK" way) and you shift the same and it's really not that big a deal.

You guessed right. However, the wheel on the right renders the cockpit view useless. It's a whole different experience. And the cockpit view is one of the most interesting additions in the newest Gran Turismo. And, unlike you, most people have driven only one type of car (either to the left or the right) and they are not used to those kinds of changes. Me included.

I didn't complain about the way Gran Turismo is built. I love it. I am asking those question because I want to know if it matters the fact that I downloaded the game (which could be a replica of the UK version which has the steering wheel on the right). I did this to verify that if I bought the game in Blu Ray in Greece it would be the exact same game.

I would also like to mention that in the game the Volkswagen golf has the steering wheel on the LEFT of the car. So does all Ferrari cars.

Seems to me that the game is not finished yet. I think they will add that option at a later date (or in the final Gran Turismo 5), it's just that they haven't finished making all the models yet.

[Zwhaler]

I'd prefer if the cars could ram through walls and had spikes coming out of the tires to mess up other players...can that be in the options too?

Paul

I'm guessing you are a fan of the Twisted Metal series :D :D

[Lucas44]

the update took me ages to get. i know a lot of people are having this problem. the only solution i've heard of is to keep retrying the download. managed to get it yesterday after about 20 attempts. good luck

[bombboy]

It's a demo... When GT5 proper comes out I would expect LHD/RHD differentiation.

[twoodcc]

It's a demo... When GT5 proper comes out I would expect LHD/RHD differentiation.

now you are probably right

[chadrob30]

Gran Turismo is all about realism.

LOL...not really. Sure it has pretty graphics, but realism? Nah my friend. When they add realistic damage and handling effects from damage then we'll talk realism. Until then, Forza is all about realism. (don't get me wrong, Forza is not perfect, but it's as close as you'll get for now)

[bokdol]

it's prolouge so it wont have all the cars. it's like a demo. also when the real thing comes out, it will be about where the cars came from not where you the consumer bought the game. the cars will be listed from countries. as all grand tourismo games have been. unless they are building the cars in your contry. then the cars will be left hand or right hand depending on where it was built.


the focus started in the uk. and the us model is completely different and under powered then the uk version. when gt5 comes out. the us version of the focus will be gimp. :rolleyes: but it will be left hand drive.

[ChrisK018]

Perhaps the grouchy one side only complainers on this thread can keep this demo handy in case they do some international traveling requiring car rentals.

That is if mom and dad aren't driving...

[Soulstorm]

LOL...not really. Sure it has pretty graphics, but realism? Nah my friend. When they add realistic damage and handling effects from damage then we'll talk realism. Until then, Forza is all about realism. (don't get me wrong, Forza is not perfect, but it's as close as you'll get for now)

Does Forza have all the customizations a typical Gran Turismo game have? I don't think so. And realism is not all about crashing. Sure, when the licensing problems about car damage modelling are ironed out for Gran Turismo, the game will be better. But you can't defy Gran Turismo's physics in driving.

[chadrob30]

Does Forza have all the customizations a typical Gran Turismo game have?

Such as what? Forza has a pretty deep customization system.

[e²Studios]

Such as what? Forza has a pretty deep customization system.

Forza is "pimp my ride" for the teenage male base that MS markets to. It is in no way anywhere near as realistic as GT. Polyphony digital makes the computer for the new Nissan Skyline GT-R's, they record all their cars engines at different rpms and situations, they model their cars using the real vehicles and their tolerances.

Forza is more of a arcade simulator, GT is a pure driving simulator. Saying Forza is more realistic than GT is fooling no one but yourself. ;)

Ed

[chadrob30]

Lol. I'm out. :cool:

[SpookTheHamster]

Does Forza have all the customizations a typical Gran Turismo game have? I don't think so. And realism is not all about crashing. Sure, when the licensing problems about car damage modelling are ironed out for Gran Turismo, the game will be better. But you can't defy Gran Turismo's physics in driving.

Yes you can, the physics in pretty much all console 'simulations' are awful. If you want realistic physics, download Live for Speed or rFactor (with some decent mods) or even GP Legends for the PC.

[Soulstorm]

Yes you can, the physics in pretty much all console 'simulations' are awful. If you want realistic physics, download Live for Speed or rFactor (with some decent mods) or even GP Legends for the PC.

I haven't played those games, but I was referring to GT in comparison with Forza.

[spyker3292]

Comes out in US this week!! Can't wait.
I need a job, just a high schooler... maybe I'll pick up an application when I go buy it at Target tomorrow or whenever they get it in. Our internet is great for online play but it would take forever to download GT5p.

[twoodcc]

well i got this game a couple days ago, and i must say, the graphics are outstanding. i do like this game, but can't wait until the final version is out

[agentsmithone]

I just completed Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, can't wait for GT5 to be released. Forza 2 is nowhere close in graphic fidelity.

[twoodcc]

I just completed Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, can't wait for GT5 to be released. Forza 2 is nowhere close in graphic fidelity.

nice. i just got mine, so i haven't completed it yet. i have finished the C class events though

[MacRumorUser]

Yea h I only got this a week ago and it's ok. Kind of bored of the tracks already though. Graphically its ok and looks pretty enough in 1080p but I still think there are better looking racing games.

Still irks about damage, but lets hope it makes it into the final release.

As it stands - a very good (but expensive) demo :)

[Soulstorm]

I wish there was someone to show me how can I complete those damn races in S class.

Those of you who have finished it, what cars have you used for S-class?

[XNine]

GT is the pinnacle of realistic when it comes to driving sims. Every car's handling and suspension, even down to the sound of their engines, revving, slowing, and switching gears are painfully recorded and duplicated for their games. GT5 is going to be no different, just more detailed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_(series)

As for the steering wheel, authentic cars are used, thus a Skyline isn't going to have a steering wheel on the left, and a Corvette isn't going to have one on the right.

[2nyRiggz]

Yup a demo with 40+ cars and several tracks...oh yeah and online. I was never a race car game player but since I got the game plus the logitech steering wheel(in car view FTW) I'm definitely awaiting the final game.



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[MacRumorUser]

GT is the pinnacle of realistic when it comes to driving sims. Every car's handling and suspension, even down to the sound of their engines, revving, slowing, and switching gears are painfully recorded and duplicated for their games. GT5 is going to be no different, just more detailed.



Yep because when your in your car you can often slam into other drivers, collide into walls and such and find that your car is surrounded by a magic forcefield making it impenitrable to damage.

It is also the pinacle of realism to be able to reset your car should you go off course as well. I know my car is fitted with a reset button (I think its near the hazard warning lights).

Oh and of course every "real" driver had the ability whilst cruising down the road to suddenly shift viewpoint and have an outer body experience enabling you to see the car from an exterior shot.

Also I have noticed that in the real world, that during pro races if a driver doesn't like the way the race is progressing or should they fail, then its perfectly ok to restart and replay a race over and over again. Happens all the time as its the pinnacle of real.

The pinnacle of real is an overblown and over used statement for GTA series, and utterly contradicted by every game mechanic employed in it. Of course gran turismo is only a game, and has to be fun. Often real world driving is not. But to hold it aloft and declare it a somthing it is simply not (ie real) is a pure oxi moron. In many ways HardDriving back in arcade in the early 90's was mor authentic as a driving simulator than any of the GTA series. However it was also crap.


So please do we really have to throw around these overblown statements on here too. ;) :)

[twoodcc]

Yep because when your in your car you can often slam into other drivers, collide into walls and such and find that your car is surrounded by a magic forcefield making it impenitrable to damage.

It is also the pinacle of realism to be able to reset your car should you go off course as well. I know my car is fitted with a reset button (I think its near the hazard warning lights).

Oh and of course every "real" driver had the ability whilst cruising down the road to suddenly shift viewpoint and have an outer body experience enabling you to see the car from an exterior shot.

Also I have noticed that in the real world, that during pro races if a driver doesn't like the way the race is progressing or should they fail, then its perfectly ok to restart and replay a race over and over again. Happens all the time as its the pinnacle of real.

The pinnacle of real is an overblown and over used statement for GTA series, and utterly contradicted by every game mechanic employed in it. Of course gran turismo is only a game, and has to be fun. Often real world driving is not. But to hold it aloft and declare it a somthing it is simply not (ie real) is a pure oxi moron. In many ways HardDriving back in arcade in the early 90's was mor authentic as a driving simulator than any of the GTA series. However it was also crap.


So please do we really have to throw around these overblown statements on here too. ;) :)

and what game do you think is more realistic? with everything gran turismo has to offer and has car damage?

sure, there is not such thing as a perfect game, but clearly Gran Turismo is the best out there. yeah, it's a game, and clearly not real, but it's the closest we've got. and they say they might be bringing damage to the final game. we'll see if that really happens, but then i think there are going to be several DNF's

[MacRumorUser]

and what game do you think is more realistic? with everything gran turismo has to offer and has car damage?

I'm just being pedantic about this constant reference you hear from people and review sites that it is the pinnacle of realism, when reality is that it's clearly not.

Why cant they just simply say the most 'realistic' of the genre, rather than putting it up on this pedestal by using the token 'pinnacle' as by doing so - they are saying its as good as we can get, when its quite clear there are many ways they can improve and make it more realistic...

Just being pedantic :p

[XNine]

I'm just being pedantic about this constant reference you hear from people and review sites that it is the pinnacle of realism, when reality is that it's clearly not.

Why cant they just simply say the most 'realistic' of the genre, rather than putting it up on this pedestal by using the token 'pinnacle' as by doing so - they are saying its as good as we can get, when its quite clear there are many ways they can improve and make it more realistic...

Just being pedantic :p

Pedantic as always, eh? Well then, you can go ahead and tell me which game is used by several manufacturers for testing their prototypes? Forza? PFT. Hell no, it's Gran Turismo.

I'm sure Forza is great, but anyone saying it's superior to GT is basically saying Vigilante 8 is Superior to Twisted Metal, or Splinter Cell is superior to Metal Gear, or Droids are superior to Storm Troopers.... It's just not true. :b