The Red Phone is Ringing Again!

[stevento]

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/152.aspx

now she's going after McCain which means she's optimistic about her chances of winning!!!

[Thomas Veil]

Well, Obama's been attacking McCain lately, so apparently he's optimistic about his chances of winning.

By the way, the "3 a.m." idea just doesn't work here. It's ridiculous. What kind of economic crisis is so immediate that it has to be addressed in the middle of the night?

Whatever she does, I hope Hillary has the problem solved by, oh, 5:30 a.m. at the latest.

[yg17]

I was in Philadelphia yesterday and while watching TV, I saw this ad and I was just shocked. I was about to just start cursing at the TV but I didn't want to wake the other hotel guests. Considering the first one went so well for her, I just couldn't believe her campaign would have the audacity to put out another one.


I did see several Obama ads though, which I throughly enjoyed. They got a point across without resorting to fear mongering or attacking his opponent. Obama's ad tells viewers why they should vote for him, not why they shouldn't vote for the other person.


But now I'm back in Missouri and am enjoying political ad-free TV.

[stevento]

They got a point across without resorting to fear mongering or attacking his opponent.

look if obama doesn't want to get attacked he shouldn't be in politics. like bill clinton said, what's wrong with putting on the pads and having an arguement? i dont know why everyone get's mad at hillary for attacking him. it's probably because the media wont pitch him any hardballs.
but the republican attack machine is NOT planning on thowing any softballs. ....

Obama's ad tells viewers why they should vote for him, not why they shouldn't vote for the other person.


really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbKMMlhkgOs


and second of all. it DID go over well for her. it 's been a very successful talking point for her.

[stevento]

McCain hits back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYwLxtzW3I8

apparently he thinks lowering taxes is the answer to everything

[Iscariot]

THE CITY IS IN TROUBLE???

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-24936182256914/batman-77hi.jpg

[Thomas Veil]

Quick! Chief O'Hara, dash to the roof! Flash the Bat-signal! :D

[it5five]

Saw this the other day, and thought it was a bit humorous.

Look Who's Really Calling Hillary Clinton at 3AM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPIt7Sv_blE)

[stevento]

lol we get those calls at my house so often now we know when its a bill collector and we don't even answer!!!!

look her campaign is not strapped anymore and keep in mind billary is worth $50M as in personal fortune and they dont plan on losing so if it came down to money i dont think they'd hesitate to spend huge $$$

[mactastic]

Unfortunately for Hillary, she still has to explain (via release of her March fundraising numbers) why she is being outspent 5:1 by Obama.

I mean, if she's got all this personal wealth, surely she should be achieving parity in advertising?

[Gelfin]

THE CITY IS IN TROUBLE???

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-24936182256914/batman-77hi.jpg

Man, you have no idea how often I have found myself mentally constructing a version of that commercial along those lines.

"It's 3am and your children are sound asleep. But somewhere there's a phone ringing. A madman in a purple crushed velvet suit has escaped an asylum and sent out a series of nursery rhymes hinting at a fiendish plan to steal the focusing ruby from an experimental telescope. Who do you want answering that phone?"

[zioxide]

This 3am stuff is ********.

The funny part is Hillary flat out lied about Bosnia multiple times then said she misspoke because she was overtired. The person who ****s up because she's overtired in the middle of the day is the last person I want answering the phone at 3am. What an idiot.

[Thomas Veil]

This 3am stuff is ********.

The funny part is Hillary flat out lied about Bosnia multiple times then said she misspoke because she was overtired. The person who ****s up because she's overtired in the middle of the day is the last person I want answering the phone at 3am. What an idiot.Well now that last part is not fair. These campaigns are killers. I don't know where they get the stamina to even do it. I know I certainly couldn't.

[stevento]

she didnt lie about bosnia
what kind of lie would that have been? nobody would have believe that for one second
that the first lady and her daughter ran with their heads down through sniper fire through a war zone?
who would believe that? when i first heard it i thought "what? she must have been talking about someone else"

[atszyman]

Well now that last part is not fair. These campaigns are killers. I don't know where they get the stamina to even do it. I know I certainly couldn't.

And being the president isn't an easy job either, Bush only mentioned it was "hard work" about 100 times when debating Kerry. If being tired is going to cause you to "misspeak" then I don't want you answering the phone at 3:00 a.m. to solve an international crisis.

[MacNut]

Honestly I would rather have McCain answer the phone at 3 am then Hillary.

Plus McCain is older and will likely be up that early to go potty, so he will be wide awake to answer the phone.

Hillary will be like, why the hell is that phone ringing Im trying to sleep. Damn it Bill I told you not to have your dates call the house past 12.

[mactastic]

she didnt lie about bosnia
what kind of lie would that have been? nobody would have believe that for one second
that the first lady and her daughter ran with their heads down through sniper fire through a war zone?
who would believe that? when i first heard it i thought "what? she must have been talking about someone else"
Right. And Bush / Cheney didn't lie about Saddam's WMD capabilities, they just "misspoke". Probably because they were overly tired.

[Badandy]

Right. And Bush / Cheney didn't lie about Saddam's WMD capabilities, they just "misspoke". Probably because they were overly tired.

Give it a rest. It's boring after 6 years, it really is. And I'm not trying to sound like an ahole about it, it's just trite and you're not going to change anyone's opinion by regurgitating it.


EDIT: And stevento, she's not going to win. Realize that.

[yg17]

she didnt lie about bosnia
what kind of lie would that have been? nobody would have believe that for one second
that the first lady and her daughter ran with their heads down through sniper fire through a war zone?
who would believe that? when i first heard it i thought "what? she must have been talking about someone else"

She said she was keeping her head down, running through sniper fire in a war zone. It turned out, she wasn't keeping her head down, nor was she running through sniper fire in a war zone. How in the hell is that not lying?

Give it a rest. It's boring after 6 years, it really is. And I'm not trying to sound like an ahole about it, it's just trite and you're not going to change anyone's opinion by regurgitating it.


EDIT: And stevento, she's not going to win. Realize that.

We'd give it a rest if that wasn't the sole reason we've been in Iraq for these past 5 years

[Badandy]

We'd give it a rest if that wasn't the sole reason we've been in Iraq for these past 5 years


ugghhhh.

[CanadaRAM]

Quick! Chief O'Hara, dash to the roof! Flash the Bat-signal! :D

Unfortunately, there have been budget cutbacks, and all Gotham City can afford now is Dachshund Man


http://www.canadaram.com/images/batdox.jpg

[stevento]

She said she was keeping her head down, running through sniper fire in a war zone. It turned out, she wasn't keeping her head down, nor was she running through sniper fire in a war zone. How in the hell is that not lying?



she misspoke but did not intentionally lie.
she knew there was video of her NOT taking sniper fire nor has it ever been mention before so what kind of lie would that have been?


And stevento, she's not going to win. Realize that.

instead of looking at how impossible it is to win‚ she pulls her campaign together and does what it takes. this is not over until somebody has 2025 delegates on their side

[yg17]

she misspoke but did not intentionally lie.
she knew there was video of her NOT taking sniper fire nor has it ever been mention before so what kind of lie would that have been?



How in the hell do you misspeak about that? I know if I were under attack from snipers, that wouldn't exactly be an event in my life that I would forget later on.

[atszyman]

she misspoke but did not intentionally lie.
she knew there was video of her NOT taking sniper fire nor has it ever been mention before so what kind of lie would that have been?

Do you often add mortal peril when you tell people stories from your past? She was trying to make it sound like she had some tough foreign policy experiences. Being in mortal danger in a war zone is not something you just add to a story to spice it up a bit.


instead of looking at how impossible it is to win‚ she pulls her campaign together and does what it takes. this is not over until somebody has 2025 delegates on their side

Do you think she'll endorse Obama if (when) she finally loses the nomination, and urge her supporters to vote for him?

[Iscariot]

Unfortunately, there have been budget cutbacks, and all Gotham City can afford now is Dachshund Man


http://www.canadaram.com/images/batdox.jpg

This thread is going places.

[zioxide]

she misspoke but did not intentionally lie.
she knew there was video of her NOT taking sniper fire nor has it ever been mention before so what kind of lie would that have been?

she intentionally lied about it MULTIPLE times to mislead voters.

instead of looking at how impossible it is to win‚ she pulls her campaign together and does what it takes. this is not over until somebody has 2025 delegates on their side

1842 is the majority if michigan and florida aren't counted.

[killerrobot]

This is the greatest response yet to Clinton's Red Phone ads. I think it's about at her advertising level as well:)

http://www.tmz.com/2008/04/04/hillarys-got-junk-in-the-trunk/

"She doesn't care about the safety of her secret security guards, so why would she care about your security".

edit:--sorry you have to watch an ad to see the tape. I can't find any other site with the video yet.

[MM07]

I like the Bubba the Love Sponge version that Manson did. They played it a few times this week.

Anyone heard it?

[Iscariot]

she intentionally lied about it MULTIPLE times to mislead voters.

I personally find it hard to disagree with or defend "Hillary's list of lies". While we need to recognize that every single person on this Earth lies, that memory is faulty and that you can absorb misinformation as truth even when resisting it, I still don't personally believe her to be especially trustworthy.

[solvs]

she didnt lie about bosnia
While it wasn't that big of a deal, it wasn't the truth either, and just helped to further the stereotypes about her.

It's boring after 6 years, it really is.
The outcome is no bed of roses either, so since we're still there in Iraq, and those reasons did turn out to not be true, I would think we would still have a right to be mad about it.

Especially given (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/24/AR2006062401081.html) what (http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/) we (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030623/byrd) now (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml) know (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2735).

so what kind of lie would that have been?
You tell us. What kind of lie was it? Not a very good one?

instead of looking at how impossible it is to win
She just keeps going. No matter how badly. No matter her chance, or lack thereof. I still don't see how that's a good thing though. She has every right to try, but isn't that one of the things we dislike about Bush? I mean, look at Iraq.

This thread is going places.
I would say where, but I don't want to get bleeped.


Oh, and I saw McCain's me-too 3AM ad, and it was kinda pathetic. Vague, something about the economy, lots of cliches. I'm sure it'll work great.

[Thomas Veil]

Unfortunately, there have been budget cutbacks, and all Gotham City can afford now is Dachshund Man


http://www.canadaram.com/images/batdox.jpgThat's what this thread needed...a little insanity. :p

[mactastic]

Give it a rest. It's boring after 6 years, it really is. And I'm not trying to sound like an ahole about it, it's just trite and you're not going to change anyone's opinion by regurgitating it.


EDIT: And stevento, she's not going to win. Realize that.

ugghhhh.
LOL @ Badandy.

Little sensitive about the subject, eh? I can understand why, but to try to stifle debate over subjects you find uncomfortable just smacks of desperation. And no. I wont give it a rest, and I'm not trying to sound like an ahole by saying so. You don't change anyone's opinion with your trite and hackneyed views, but I don't go around telling you to shut up, now do I?