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nbs2
Apr 4, 2008, 09:54 AM
This article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=555465&in_page_id=1770&ct=5) in the Daily Mail is really interesting. It presents information that certainly explains the restrictions on liquids.

But, I am still curious - why 100ml? Why not ban all liquids? Sure there are liquids that people will clearly need to have with them (medicines and such) which would merit permission even with the risk, but it seems that for everything else, 1L spread over a couple of bombers in a bunch of 100ml containers would accomplish the same level of destruction.



xUKHCx
Apr 4, 2008, 10:02 AM
I imagine it is a case of logistics and bomber to kills ratio.

If it takes 4 bombers to take down one plane the chances of catching them are 4 times higher. Also if there was a team of 8 that wanted to take down planes then they could only take down 2 rather than 8 planes.

BoyBach
Apr 4, 2008, 11:50 AM
It's economics: airports are now shopping centres that just happen to be where people go to board a plane.

"Sorry, you can't take that on the plane. Be sure to purchase the special travel packs available at one of the airports many shopping centres."

And don't forget to bring your clear plastic bags.

Zwhaler
Apr 4, 2008, 01:21 PM
It's economics: airports are now shopping centres that just happen to be where people go to board a plane.

"Sorry, you can't take that on the plane. Be sure to purchase the special travel packs available at one of the airports many shopping centres."

And don't forget to bring your clear plastic bags.

Yup, they try extremely hard to sell you stuff in the airports.

Much Ado
Apr 4, 2008, 01:27 PM
One airport I was at last year had the duty free area before baggage checks, so it would be incredibly easy to just buy a drink at the duty free stores, swap the liquid for your explosive-mix in the toilets, and then go through security. They don't check the duty free items, I believe, so you would carry on no problem.

nbs2
Apr 4, 2008, 01:35 PM
One airport I was at last year had the duty free area before baggage checks, so it would be incredibly easy to just buy a drink at the duty free stores, swap the liquid for your explosive-mix in the toilets, and then go through security. They don't check the duty free items, I believe, so you would carry on no problem.

Except that you aren't given the item until after the flight (or is it as you board - it's been a while since I bought duty free). I don't know if every airport is the same, but on my most recent flight, the guy behind me at security was a drink delivery guy - even the prepackaged flats got screened.

Perhaps it is a concession-pushing idea, but even then that doesn't explain the limited permitted quantity.

UKHC's point on logistics makes sense, but even those limited quantities could be enough to create panic in the aircraft or damage a plane severely enough bring it crashing down. It may not be as good as blowing it up, but the end result would be close enough.

riscy
Apr 4, 2008, 01:38 PM
Slightly off topic - last year I was at an airport, going to the toilet and this guy walked out in front of me. The lady cleaning the toilet area followed him out and shouted at him, giving him a hard time for smoking his dope in the cubicle and getting stoned, before getting on the plane!! Classic!!

Not really related to security, but it was priceless! The guy staggered off into the crowd looking bewildered and confused.

One airport I was at last year had the duty free area before baggage checks, so it would be incredibly easy to just buy a drink at the duty free stores, swap the liquid for your explosive-mix in the toilets, and then go through security. They don't check the duty free items, I believe, so you would carry on no problem.

stevento
Apr 4, 2008, 02:00 PM
i always though that the reason they did that was to keep you from brining your own food in and they don't feed you on the planes so you have to pay $5 for a warm soda at whatever fast food joint they have.

Eric Piercey
Apr 4, 2008, 02:24 PM
nitroglycerin

fridgeymonster3
Apr 4, 2008, 04:15 PM
I imagine it is a case of logistics and bomber to kills ratio.

If it takes 4 bombers to take down one plane the chances of catching them are 4 times higher. Also if there was a team of 8 that wanted to take down planes then they could only take down 2 rather than 8 planes.

If it was a case of logistics, why not just ban all liquid? Therefore, instead of having multiple bombers carrying on 100mL, it would be much more difficult to sneak any amount on.

Much Ado
Apr 4, 2008, 05:36 PM
Except that you aren't given the item until after the flight (or is it as you board - it's been a while since I bought duty free). I don't know if every airport is the same, but on my most recent flight, the guy behind me at security was a drink delivery guy - even the prepackaged flats got screened.

This was not enforced at the airport in question. It was odd, and an exception to what I have seen elsewhere.