Toooo much iPHONE!

[rickboy]

The forums would be more exciting if we can hear about news surrounding other apple products and not so much the iPHONE... Im personally looking for updates to the Mac mini and The desktops computers. Like when are they gonna change the case? I never liked that case cause it gathers too much dust. I like the older G4 ones, and Im really hoping they make their desktops smaller like the G3-G4 days.

Its like the iPHONE is all the rave these days. What happened to the news surrounding other products. I currently have no interest in the iPHONE simply because it has no remolvable battery, to little memory, no expandable memory and lacked 3G(although this will be updated). Besides I dont like AT&T's policy. They bully you too much. Im with sprint simply because they have gven me good service in the past with my bills and stuff and sprint is coming out with a 3G iPHONE competitor that is pretty decent and not so expensive. I was in love with the helio Ocean but helio doesnt do business were im from. im gonna miss the OSX interface and safari browser though. Dont get me wrong the iPHONE is a good product, but i want to see news surrounding other products more often.

So i know most of the news coming out is about the iPHONE... but honestly, what if there was no iPHONE? Mac Forums wouldnt have nothing to report or say? Come on... lots a news out there that is waiting to be dug out... like when is apple gonna change the case for the dekstop? When is apple gonna make a significant update to the MBP... Im waiting for a 6 gigs a RAM capacity and higher frontside bus for the MBP. I dont care how fast the processor is if the FSB is gonna choke it.

[Eric Lewis]

do you really need 6Gb ram in a laptop? come on? really think?

well the iPhone is apples newest child..

you dont like it, dont buy it...or even talk about it

[basesloaded190]

i don't why your bitching. the iphone might be the coolest thing apple has ever done, and with a soon to be released revision, i don't see why you wouldn't want to know what they come out with next. i have no intentions on buying an iphone but am excited as hell to see what is coming out next.

your needs for a laptop are realistic right now, i don't know what you would need those specs for. be patient and more news will come out about other products in the up coming months

[xUKHCx]

This thread might be of interest to you "Don't want to see a certain forum in "New Posts"? Here's how." (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=187767)

[JML42691]

I'm sorry, but this forum is for discussion about Apple's products, and there is a lot of hype around the iPhone right now because of the SDK, 2.0 leaks, and many other things, it is going to happen and is unavoidable. It was the same thing when the MacBook Air was released, and if you are tired about seeing so many iPhone threads when you search for new posts, then add the iPhone forum to your block list;)

EDIT: Neverminds about the last point, xUKHCx beat me to it.

[thegoldenmackid]

iThink that your complaints are something that the entire Apple community is experiencing, there are now tons of iPhone users flooding not only this forum, but also the Apple store and CNet. The iPhone will being a lot of users towards the mac, just like the iPod. I agree, there are more "newbies" joining for the iPhone forum and that the Mac forum is way more active, productive and insightful. I was quite irritated at the beginning, but MacRumors should welcome any new users.

The iPod saved Apple, the iPhone has helped expand the company dramatically. Take a step back and think if the iPod forum was a bad idea.

[rickboy]

It was the same thing when the MacBook Air was released

No man its not the same with MacBookAir. I havent seen much news about it since its release. And I think the iPHONE is a great product and im not really saying there should be less news on it. Im just saying more news should be posted about other stuff too.Im a graphic designer and DJ so basically my interest in apple products taylor to other areas. People can post what they want on the forums. But what Im refering to is the articles that are posted on the home page should vary more. Like when I open mac forums all i get is news and rumors of the iPHONE most of the time. Im really waiting for news on other stuff that has not been addressed. I check this site everyday ya know. And the iPHONE came out before the MBA and apple has a fair share of other products rumors could be built on. I wanna see rumors revolving on other stuff "as well"... like maybe a new case for the desktop mac or a significant update to the laptop. Im not really asking for less news about the iPHONE just more news on other stuff. I know im probably gonna get bitched at by a few iPHONE fanboys but thats how i feel.

About the RAM, Honestly I dont need 6GB of RAM. Right now Im happy with 4GB. I just want to be able to upgrade when the time comes I run 3 to six apps at a time. I may have photoshop, illustrator and flash open all at once. And may want to burn a DVD and download stuff in the backround. I download lots of stuff especially music and to avoid clutter in my drive i like to back things up quickly. Because I work my illustrations, design and sound. Scratch disk space is important to me. I like working at high resolutions and i have multiple files open. I also run music apps, since im a DJ and i can benefit from the extra RAM cause alot of the music is performed in real time and cant have the software failing in front of a crowd. So I like to keep my hard drive clean and have a decent amount of RAM when DJing. On top of all this Leopard weighs alot. 4GB RAM is probably the least I would want to be with but I want room to add more RAM when the time comes.

[Much Ado]

But what Im refering to is the articles that are posted on the home page should vary more. Like when I open mac forums all i get is news and rumors of the iPHONE most of the time. Im really waiting for news on other stuff that has not been addressed.

Relevant rumours and news are posted on the front page, and at the moment there tends to be more iPhone-related news and rumours. It's simple.

[rickboy]

Relevant rumours and news are posted on the front page, and at the moment there tends to be more iPhone-related news and rumours. It's simple.

hmmm... so if there was no iPHONE there wouldnt be much rumors about apple products? There would be nothing to say or more news to post? This site would be updated once or twice a week...Naahh... for some reason i aint eating that up... The apple cumminity is made up of different type of people with different needs... not just people waiting to get the next iPHONE and definitly not people who just belong to AT&T. I dont have AT&T and dont plan on signing up with them, so im assuming all the people who own an i phone are AT&T clients. so i couldnt get an iPHONE even if i wanted one. Like i said, Im not looking for less rumors on iPHONE, Im just looking for more rumors on other stuff. So tell me when is apple gonna upgrade the casing for the MP and MBP? Any new features, ports or hardware upgrades? I really dislike the G5 aluminum case ya know. Its too big and its like a huge air filter. When are they gonna update their Cinema Displays? An update about the penryn Mac mini update would be nice.... i mean lots of stuff can be addressed about mac products ya know.

[JML42691]

hmmm... so if there was no iPHONE there wouldnt be much rumors about apple products? There would be nothing to say or more news to post? This site would be updated once or twice a week...Naahh... for some reason i aint eating that up... The apple cumminity is made up of different type of people with different needs... not just people waiting to get the next iPHONE and definitly not people who just belong to AT&T. I dont have AT&T and dont plan on signing up with them, so im assuming all the people who own an i phone are AT&T clients. so i couldnt get an iPHONE even if i wanted one. Like i said, Im not looking for less rumors on iPHONE, Im just looking for more rumors on other stuff. So tell me when is apple gonna upgrade the casing for the MP and MBP? Any new features, ports or hardware upgrades? I really dislike the G5 aluminum case ya know. Its too big and its like a huge air filter. When are they gonna update their Cinema Displays? An update about the penryn Mac mini update would be nice.... i mean lots of stuff can be addressed about mac products ya know.
Well, we can't exactly control how many and how often the rumors are, so there is no other real way around it, once again, just add the iPhone forum to your block list

[Much Ado]

If a website comes up with a credible rumour or piece of news about new cinema displays, for example, then it will get reported here. MacRumors finds, posts and discusses rumours from around the web. It doesn't invent them.

[Hankster]

You want more news and rumors about Apple computers. But, there ISN'T any. What do you want? People to make stuff up? Right now the iPhone is the hottest topic regardless if you like it or not. There is only so much computer news and since laptops were just updated there isn't a lot of hype anymore. Besides, all those topics you listed in your last post about laptops have all been beaten to death. Try doing a search.

News does not revolve around your interests, it revolves around the interests of the majority.

[rickboy]

actually I also asked for rumors on the mac desktops and the cinema displayes, which are extremely overdue. But i wouldnt put the iphone on my block list cause im not saying i dont wanna hear news from it. i just feel the rest of apples lineup is ignored and neglected because of it. Rumors are something you need to dig out and im just hoping someone finds something on the other stuff, cuz apple should be working on new display technology, so why not dig it out. Anyone hear works for apple? or knows someone who works for apple? Who knows I may just sit down and see what i can find myself, but thats why i come to this website, so it kinda defeats the purpose. Im pretty excited about that new quad core mobile prcessor... nelheim I think its called, cause honestly that mac book pro update was pretty moderate. I was hoping for a higher frontside bus. So I guess Im gonna purchase a MAC mini and wait for the rumored Nelheim chipset which is rumord to appear in late 2008 or early 2009. Lots of stuff to talk about on this site. besides the iPHONE. Hell... iPHONE has its own page at the top right menu bar of this page. I guess im not so wrong. But i guess i got not much else to say ill sound like a broken record and im not here to be trolling or pestering people and everybody has diferent opinions that i respect, im not asking for less rumors of iPHONE, cause when its any news concerning apple, more is never really enough regardless what product... its always exciting to know what apple is upto. Just wish more news surfaced about other products and if you dig im certain youll find. Even the Mac book air took a back seat shortly after its release. I guess the iphone is a hot ticket now, im just hoping this changes befpre this becomes iPHONErumors.com

[JML42691]

So you want people to make up rumors about other Apple products? Because that is what you are sounding like, and in which case it wouldn't be rumors, it would be lies and pure speculation, which you could do yourself. So what if there is a lot of hype about the iPhone right now, deal with it. It is one of Apple's "Big Three", and because it is by itself in that category, it is going to sound like it is getting a lot of news, and it should be. Just learn to deal with it, what do you want the admins to do here, ignore what could be very true/trustworthy information regarding the iPhone to make a select group happy, while making many others angry?

[Digital Skunk]

Im waiting for a 6 gigs a RAM capacity and higher frontside bus for the MBP. I dont care how fast the processor is if the FSB is gonna choke it.

The current models support up to 8GB already, let me know when you find a 4GB RAM chip for laptops.

All things fair, I want to read news about the iPhone, especially when we can get it on other service providers.

[Dagless]

Because we're only getting iPhone rumours recently since theres an upgrade coming? Every product with such constant rumours gets the same treatment.

[mkrishnan]

The current models support up to 8GB already, let me know when you find a 4GB RAM chip for laptops.

When it comes to rumours, there are essentially two things that define how many rumours there are about any given product: (1) actual, verifiable news related (with varying levels of directness) to the product, and (2) your filter level for how credible the rumour is.

I mean, we could certainly start a rumour that Apple will release a new Macbook Air with 8GB of RAM, 1TB of SSD, and it will only weigh 2lbs, but that's absurd. Or we could start a "New iMacs on Tuesday" rumour, but on what would it be based? Our standards for (2) preclude this... and we don't exercise any control over (1).

[thejadedmonkey]

I agree with the OP. I don't care about the iPhone, and while I understand that it's getting a LOT of media attention right now... MR is part of the media that gives it that attention!

Here's a rundown of the latest front-page stories.


iPhone
iPhone
OS X
iPhone
Adobe
iTunes
OS X
iPhone
TV ad!!
iTunes
OS X
Apple v MS
2010 rumor
April Fools
mac Hacked
iPhone
iPhone
OS X
OS X
Aperture
iPhone
Apple
Adobe
iPhone
iPod/Nike


Of the past 25 stories, 8, or almost 1/3 of the stories, have been about the iPhone, and 2 of them have been about Adobe! No longer content with simply serving up rumors, Macrumors.com now serves up TV ads for Apple and Adobe news.

Also, I only counted 7 stories (that's one less then the number 8, which is the number of iPhone related stories in the past 25 updates) that could qualify as rumors. There's more iPhone press releases from investors, companies, etc., then there are actual mac rumors!

do you really need 6Gb ram in a laptop? come on? really think?

A rumor of when 4GB chips will be available would be more welcome then a pseudo press release (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/03/t-mobile-germany-offering-subsidized-iphones-with-2-year-contract/).

[JML42691]

....Of the past 25 stories, 8, or almost 1/3 of the stories, have been about the iPhone, and 2 of them have been about Adobe! No longer content with simply serving up rumors, Macrumors.com now serves up TV ads for Apple and Adobe news.

Also, I only counted 7 stories (that's one less then the number 8, which is the number of iPhone related stories in the past 25 updates) that could qualify as rumors. There's more iPhone press releases from investors, companies, etc., then there are actual mac rumors!....

I'm sorry, but you are only proving my point of how the iPhone should be receiving about 1/3 of the news. If you think of it this way, Apple has 3 major product categories (Mac, iPod, iPhone), and plus, there are always going to be times when one category gets more news then the others. And the point regarding news vs. rumors, I for one am sure that most people here would rather be hearing about news/information releases than potentially false Rumors. But even so, the name of this site is MacRumors, so rumors there will be. From what I can tell, you would rather be hearing about made up rumors than news that could be relevant. And the iPhone is part of the Mac company. And in times like this when the quantity of news stories is low, you just have to expect that there will be reports over just about anything.


And if it helps, I will play you the world's saddest song on...
http://moblog.co.uk/blogs/2541/thumbs/moblog_bfb2fc0fd2f37.jpg
...the world's smallest violin.

[Dagless]

Quickly, someone go make iMac or iPod rumours up! And don't spare the Tuesdays.

Seriously though, as I said above there is an iPhone update imminent so there will understandably be rumours circling about that. And guess what? They'll fade away after a few months and then there'll be super strong rumours about something else.

If you take the 3G rumour out of this you're left with what? 5-6 out of 25 recent posts about the iPhone? That sounds about right for a media hot product.

[Hankster]

actually I also asked for rumors on the mac desktops and the cinema displayes, which are extremely overdue. But i wouldnt put the iphone on my block list cause im not saying i dont wanna hear news from it. i just feel the rest of apples lineup is ignored and neglected because of it. Rumors are something you need to dig out and im just hoping someone finds something on the other stuff, cuz apple should be working on new display technology, so why not dig it out. Anyone hear works for apple? or knows someone who works for apple? Who knows I may just sit down and see what i can find myself, but thats why i come to this website, so it kinda defeats the purpose. Im pretty excited about that new quad core mobile prcessor... nelheim I think its called, cause honestly that mac book pro update was pretty moderate. I was hoping for a higher frontside bus. So I guess Im gonna purchase a MAC mini and wait for the rumored Nelheim chipset which is rumord to appear in late 2008 or early 2009. Lots of stuff to talk about on this site. besides the iPHONE. Hell... iPHONE has its own page at the top right menu bar of this page. I guess im not so wrong. But i guess i got not much else to say ill sound like a broken record and im not here to be trolling or pestering people and everybody has diferent opinions that i respect, im not asking for less rumors of iPHONE, cause when its any news concerning apple, more is never really enough regardless what product... its always exciting to know what apple is upto. Just wish more news surfaced about other products and if you dig im certain youll find. Even the Mac book air took a back seat shortly after its release. I guess the iphone is a hot ticket now, im just hoping this changes befpre this becomes iPHONErumors.com

Again, it seems you want people to make stuff up for the sake of making a "rumor". There is no new "rumors" about the items you're looking at, that's why they're not here. I don't know why you can't understand that, you're being stubborn to the point of being irrational. I don't even have an iPhone and you don't see me complaining about the lack of other "rumors".

When there's something to talk about it will be talked about. But, talking about something with zero support or backing is 100% worthless and causes more damage than good to the Apple industry - and this site.

[Digital Skunk]

When it comes to rumours, there are essentially two things that define how many rumours there are about any given product: (1) actual, verifiable news related (with varying levels of directness) to the product, and (2) your filter level for how credible the rumour is.

I mean, we could certainly start a rumour that Apple will release a new Macbook Air with 8GB of RAM, 1TB of SSD, and it will only weigh 2lbs, but that's absurd. Or we could start a "New iMacs on Tuesday" rumour, but on what would it be based? Our standards for (2) preclude this... and we don't exercise any control over (1).

Isn't that the truth though... Dell is marketing a Penryn based laptop that supports up to 8GB of RAM, but in typical Dell/PC fashion they don't show you where you can get a 4GB RAM chip for a laptop, since they don't exist yet.

When they become available, then we can all rejoice.

[thejadedmonkey]

I'm sorry, but you are only proving my point of how the iPhone should be receiving about 1/3 of the news. If you think of it this way, Apple has 3 major product categories (Mac, iPod, iPhone), </snip>

However, there is only ONE iPhone mode, but there are 6 Mac models and 4 iPod models.

Take the newest story. iPhone and the FCC Myth. there's no reason why that couldn't be stated with the mockup of the black iPhone, or the Mossberg stuff. It's just more keywords, ad revenue, and fluff that has no business on a rumor site.

Just like blatant TV ads stories that Apple released a new commercial don't belong on the front page.

[Hankster]

Just like blatant TV ads stories that Apple released a new commercial don't belong on the front page.

Funny, I always thought the owner of the site decided what "belongs" on the front page. ;)

[benlee]

However, there is only ONE iPhone mode, but there are 6 Mac models and 4 iPod models.

Take the newest story. iPhone and the FCC Myth. there's no reason why that couldn't be stated with the mockup of the black iPhone, or the Mossberg stuff. It's just more keywords, ad revenue, and fluff that has no business on a rumor site.

Just like blatant TV ads stories that Apple released a new commercial don't belong on the front page.

I don't think you have any right to say what "belongs" on the front page. Arn owns this site and he can post that he wore an iPhone necktie today for all he cares.
MacRumors is a site that serves up what the public is interested in along with current rumors and other Apple related tidbits.

Maybe Arn could start calling you guys up every morning and asking you what you want him to post about. I like to come here for information/rumors and if some of these things weren't posted this would be a boring site that I would not enjoy visiting.

The fact that the iPhone is the subject of a lot of posts is because there is a lot of news and rumors surrounding it right now.

I find it funny that the OP wants rumors about a redesign to the Mac Mini. Well besides the fact that there was a page 2 rumor a week ago, I don't know what he wants MacRumors to do. Start making them up?

Must be since Apple has taken a break from releasing products people have run out of things to complain about.

[mkrishnan]

Dell is marketing a Penryn based laptop that supports up to 8GB of RAM...

I somehow doubt it meets my other specs! :eek: :D

[solvs]

I just don't click on the links that are iPhone, and whatever else I don't care about, related.

[thejadedmonkey]

Funny, I always thought the owner of the site decided what "belongs" on the front page. ;)
So how do you have any room to talk?

I just don't click on the links that are iPhone, and whatever else I don't care about, related.
That's what I do too, it's just annoying, so I chimed in.

[arn]

Not sure what else there is to say.

- News items are posted to the front page that are considered interesting or significant.
- We don't make up rumors or news when there isn't any on a particular topic.
- If we didn't cover iPhone news, there would be fewer news stories overall, but no more Mac stories. There isn't a collection of relevant Mac rumors/news that we skip in order to make room for iPhone news.

Looking back:

November 2004: http://www.macrumors.com/site.php?mo=11&yr=2004
18 front page stories over 30 days

November 2007: http://www.macrumors.com/site.php?mo=11&yr=2007
72 front page stories over 30 days

arn

[hexonxonx]

You guys are doing exactly what you should be doing on this site and that is what makes this the number 1 Mac site. Though I am more excited about my Mac computers at the moment than my iPhone, I still look to see if there is any news on the phone everyday.

Thanks for the great site. :)

[rickboy]

I don't think you have any right to say what "belongs" on the front page. Arn owns this site and he can post that he wore an iPhone necktie today for all he cares.
MacRumors is a site that serves up what the public is interested in along with current rumors and other Apple related tidbits.



Dude if you make a website for people to see then I guess you should concider what they want from it and listen to them. Im just making sujestions on the topics Id like to see and things that would make this site better. DONT FORGET IM A PART OF THAT PUBLIC. And while the majority here is interested in iPHONE Im interested in other things and Im just letting that be known. Not so the owner of this website has to put anything up, its just so he can concider it and keep an eye out for something I might like. Today i got a small dose. Right now I agree most articles and rumors are of iPHONE. So I guess it cant really be helped. All im doing is voicing a concern.

Im not saying i dont want iPHONE rumors. Man you guys are taking this thread more seriously then i am. Today there was a rumor posted about the Nvidia graphic chipset for laptops. I thought that was cool. Thats the type a news and articles i find most useful and interesting to me. All Im doing is letting that be known, seeing that people like me are probably the minority in this site. At the moment. So I guess this thread would be more interesting if people with my same interests posted stuff, rather then be bashed by a buncha iPHONE fanboys, this thread aint obviosly for you since your getting plenty of what you want.

[hexonxonx]

Dude if you make a website for people to see then I guess you should concider what they want from it and listen to them. Im just making sujestions on the topics Id like to see and things that would make this site better. I think the creator of this site would welcome that. Im not saying i dont want iPHONE rumors. Man you guys are taking this more seriously then i am. Today there was a rumor posted about the Nvedia graphic chipset for laptops. Thats the type a news and articles i find most useful and interesting to me. I still belive there is news about other products to be told, Its not like apple is just working on the iPHONE and other companies such as Nvedia, Adobe and intel all have products and deals with apple for there products.... so between all this there should be things to dig up... rumors are based on speculation. Nothing is really true till its verified and confirmed... I really like this website and at least today i got my dose of things NOT iPHONE. So if tommorow I get a rumor about i phone its cool I got my MAC fix today.

Wait till June, it's gonna be all iPhone then.... or pretty darn close.

[rickboy]

if i keep coming to this website its because i think its a good website, otherwise i wouldnt waste my time. And I really opened up this thread simple to voice my interests in the type of articles Id like to see. Thats all and today I got my dose. So if tommorow i get another rumor about iPHONE its fine... so guys chill out!... geezus... but yeah i was also put into perspective by a previose post, that laid out the topics and dates of articles of the past... and 1 third is of iPhone. thats pretty reasonable. So i found that post more helpful then alot of others. Arn's post was helpful too... at least he provided me with some links usful links to stuff that maybe be in tune to my interests, so its good... people give it a break I aint bashing iPHONE i think its a great product, just wish i heard more about other stuff "TOO"... today I got my dose and at a rate of one third of the articles being of iPHONE i admit, its not so bad...

Wait till June, it's gonna be all iPhone then.... or pretty darn close.


Yeah we'll see...

[rickboy]

Well Ive waited some time to see how the articals flow over some time. I cant really speak over a period of one week. And since I posted my first post on this thread (and ticked a few people off) I find that the articles have been very diverse and informative, not only talking about apples operations, but other companies operations with apple. the latest one with IBM was cool. And I like the diversity of the topics and honestly I think this thread can be put to rest.

Im always looking further towards the Nehalem chipsets that will be available from intel for apples laptop computers as Ive been very dissapointed with the last two updates which were pretty moderate. Im looking foward to the Mac Mini Penryn Update, since im gonna purchase a Mac Mini to hold out till the Nehalem processors arrive in 2009. But that open Mac thing has got me interested and its rumors like that that make this site awsome. And i guess any updates to the ipod touch hoping they include a 5mp camera. i mean geezus the iPhone has a camera, why cant the touch. So anyway again, this thread can be put to rest.

[fhall1]

flame retardent suit on.....but for those of us that could give a crap about the iphone (original, 2.5G, 3G, 7G, black, aluminum, titanium, or otherwise) this site is getting kinda monotonous. Can the iphone stuff have it's own tab or something? I'm getting kinda sick at "leaked" photos of a black rectangle with an apple logo on it. I'd rather hear about a new 10.5.3 build seeded or something....anyone with me?

[bartelby]

If you use Forum Spy you can exclude the iPhone section and any of the others.
115563

[SilentPanda]

Nope. I'd like to know about all things Apple related and this site does just that. I'm not forced to read everything on the main page. Seeds don't particularly interest me but I deal. Big whoop, Apple is patching the OS... ohhh ahhh.

[PlaceofDis]

this is an apple rumors site for all intents and purposes. that includes the iphone, and right now there is a lot of talk going around about the iphone, hence why you see so many news posts about it.

[iBlue]

I don't care for it either but I have this procedure where I don't click those threads which are about iPhone stuff.

you can also chose to ignore that forum in the spy (in preferences) and there's this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=187767) as well.

it's just how it goes sometimes, everything in cycles.

[xUKHCx]

a.) If you want to hear anymore about 10.5.3 then it will just be made up as all that is known is posted. News fluctuates at the moment with the expected release of the next generation iPhone then obviously there will be lots of stories about it.

b.) In regards to the forums, you can ignore posts from Forum Spy and also read Don't want to see a certain forum in "New Posts"? Here's how..

[cube]

It is macrumors, not applerumors.

[Much Ado]

It is macrumors, not applerumors.

Like how Macworld is not :apple:-world?

[combatcolin]

Used to be "Remember when Apple made Computers?"

Now its "Remember when Apple made iPod's?"

I too share your sheer lack of interest in the iPhone. Overpriced toy for twats asking to be mugged.

iPod Touch on the other hand...

[SilentPanda]

I too share your sheer lack of interest in the iPhone. Overpriced toy for twats asking to be mugged.

iPod Touch on the other hand...

iPod Touch - Overpriced toy for twats asking to be mugged that have no friends that like to call them. :p

Back when the site was made there really wasn't much else than the Mac to report on. Apple has changed, the site has changed, it's just the domain has stayed the same.

Also if it's macrumors maybe we shouldn't post when things actually are released since those would be better suited to macfacts.

[iBlue]

It is macrumors, not applerumors.

pedantics.

[longofest]

It is macrumors, not applerumors.

http://www.applerumors.com/

Try it :)

[fhall1]

Learn something new every day...thanks for the tip on Forum Spy and how to exclude posts! I too have the habit of not clicking articles I don't care about...problem is, lately I have to scroll for 30 seconds to get past all the "new iphone photo" articles. Now when the new Mac Mini comes out - I'll be all over that :) (seriously)

[cube]

http://www.applerumors.com/

Try it :)

It's still called Mac Rumors.

[Baron58]

Is this the iphonerumors site?
Since the iPhone is an Apple product, why, yes, it is.

for those of us that could give a crap about the iphone (original, 2.5G, 3G, 7G, black, aluminum, titanium, or otherwise) this site is getting kinda monotonous.Well, for those of us who could give a crap about anti-iPhone opinions like yours, threads like this are monotonous. If you don't like it, Google can help you find plenty of other sites to browse.

[Doctor Q]

The site was named MacRumors when Apple had only one of its current three product lines. The site has always covered Apple's full product line and the name in no way limits that scope.

I suggest that those who have interest in only a subset of stories use the RSS feed to pick and choose what they want to read.

[fhall1]

Since the iPhone is an Apple product, why, yes, it is.

Well, for those of us who could give a crap about anti-iPhone opinions like yours, threads like this are monotonous. If you don't like it, Google can help you find plenty of other sites to browse.

If you find it monotonous...then why are you reading and replying to it? You should follow your own advice and ignore it for other, more interesting threads. I'm a reader here, just like you....the site owners can see my opinion and choose to ignore it or not. My opinion is, the hardware stories on the iphone and it's multifinger interface are somewhat interesting, but I could care that "Bolshoi Wireless has exclusive marketing rights to the 3G pink iphone in Lithuania"...there's a tab for the iphone stories, put that kind of story on that tab...people interested in the iphone are smart enough to figure out it's there.

PS....at least there's a new story about a 10.5.3 developer seed :D

[Dagless]

It's still called Mac Rumors.

Disney World... Did they really buy a whole planet?
Microsoft. Are they that small?
iPod? Didn't the i denote that it was for the internet, something the iPod has only got with the Touch?
Vacuum cleaner? Does it really clean vacuums?
If iLife crashes does that mean death?
Virgin Trains. Trains for those who have never engaged in coitus?
Automobile. Car, drive me from A to B!

Yey for pedantics.

[localoid]

pedantics.

Pedantics or sophistrists?

[pprior]

I'm sick and tired of the iphone - it seems like most of stuff here is iphone anymore. I could care less about it and am tired of all the rumors. Whatever happened to apple COMPUTER company.

Yah, I know. But phones are toys, and I use my machines for work.

flame away, that's my $0.02 and quite frankly I'm coming here a lot less because of all the iphone hoopla constantly.

[FunkyJunk]

Whatever happened to apple COMPUTER company.

The iPhone is a computer.

[PlaceofDis]

I'm sick and tired of the iphone - it seems like most of stuff here is iphone anymore. I could care less about it and am tired of all the rumors. Whatever happened to apple COMPUTER company.

Yah, I know. But phones are toys, and I use my machines for work.

flame away, that's my $0.02 and quite frankly I'm coming here a lot less because of all the iphone hoopla constantly.

as has been stated numerous times, its just whats news, if the computer's were generating rumors and news you'd be hearing about it too.

[pprior]

The iPhone is a computer.

Yah and so is my toaster, since it has a logic board inside. :rolleyes:

If you can't process multi-layer TIFF files in photoshop on it, it's not a real computer. Playing a few games, checking a calendar, and surfing the web doesn't make it any less of a toy.

[FunkyJunk]

If you can't process multi-layer TIFF files in photoshop on it, it's not a real computer.

Your opinion does not equal fact. I'm not sure you're serious, but I'll play along and assume you are. According to your standard, the computer wasn't invented until what - the mid-nineties?

com·put·er Audio Help /kəmˈpyutər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhm-pyoo-ter] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations. Compare analog computer, digital computer.
2. a person who computes; computist.


Oh by the way, you might find this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC) to be interesting reading.

[pprior]

That definition applies today, not back then. The calculator watch would be those day's equivalent to today's iphone - cool, but not a computer.

My statement was 1/2 TIC, but the underlying point I'm serious about - maybe I'm too much like "PC" in the commercials, but I expect my computer and computer company to do something productive, not just be a fun waste of time.

My mac pro is very productive, all the time spent on iphone obsessions is not.

this is all just my opinion, and I don't fault anyone for enjoying their phone, but to me it's a huge waste of time. I think the same thing of all the young folks walking around texting each other constantly.

I'm 100% old fogey material, I guess :cool:

[GGJstudios]

This thread might be of interest to you "Don't want to see a certain forum in "New Posts"? Here's how." (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=187767)

I've read this post but I'm looking for a way to block individual threads... not a whole forum... from appearing in Forum Spy.... any ideas?

[MrSmith]

There ought to be a sticky on this subject. Fact is, if Apple wasn't making the iPhone it'd be making something else - possibly newfangled Macs - and there would be rumours about that.

I used to be pissed off as well but now I consider that:

1) an iPhone is really a mobile computer that makes phone calls;
2) I'll be able to get one next month. :p

[flamejob]

Am I the only one here that is getting a little bored with the total obsession with the iPhone on the main site. I liked the days when I could get Mac news and rumors trickling through my RSS reader; I'd see that little 1 next to the Mac Rumors item and think "wow, some tasty Mac news", but now all I get is iPhone.

Are we going to separate this at any stage? I mean, if you want pure iPhone news, you can just go to the tab.

(posted from an iPhone ;) )

[BigPrince]

Right now you are seeing a high distribution then normal of iPhone stories because of its impending release...

Also, the iPhone right now is a big part of Apple...which is why it gets a lot of face time.

[David G.]

"iPhone runs OS X." - Steve Jobs

[nick004]

Most over hyped gadget of the century in my opinion. Apparently there are some people, I assume with no life, queueing for the thing at the moment. That's 6 days before release. And its just a revision, not like its a brand new product. Just stroll into a store the next day or order on line. Is have it a 15 minutes before everyone else really that important?

[mrat93]

Am I the only one here that is getting a little bored with the total obsession with the iPhone on the main site. I liked the days when I could get Mac news and rumors trickling through my RSS reader; I'd see that little 1 next to the Mac Rumors item and think "wow, some tasty Mac news", but now all I get is iPhone.

Are we going to separate this at any stage? I mean, if you want pure iPhone news, you can just go to the tab.

(posted from an iPhone ;) )

When this site started, all there were was Macs. No iPod. No iPhone.

[sushi]

Right now you are seeing a high distribution then normal of iPhone stories because of its impending release...

Also, the iPhone right now is a big part of Apple...which is why it gets a lot of face time.
Exactly.

"iPhone runs OS X." - Steve Jobs
Good point.

Personally, I enjoy the excitement of a new product release/major upgrade.

Fun times! :)

[hexonxonx]

I think it's one of the best times to be involved with everything Mac. Though I have two iPhones activated that I use daily, I won't be getting a new iPhone anytime soon, perhaps in a few months. It still is nice to hear all the latest news on everything that I am interested in and MacRumors does the best job out of any other Mac site/forums.

[JNB]

From any MR page: User CP>Edit Options>Thread Display Options>Exclude Forums.

iPhone Forums: 99, 105, 107, 108, 109, 129, 131
iPod Touch Forums: 113, 115

[kabunaru]

Someday the iPhone is going to be a thing of the past and we are going to be laughing that we ever said this. :rolleyes: :p

Any ways, I believe that if you think there are too much iPhone stuff here, don't look at the iPhone stuff. There's a reason the iPhone has its own seperate forums/news section. ;)

[Scooterman1]

Set your preferences in the Forum Spy to NOT include the iPhone Forum and it will seem like there is a LOT more of other news that iPhone. I did it with another.

[Y-Guy]

From any MR page: User CP>Edit Options>Thread Display Options>Exclude Forums.

iPhone Forums: 99, 105, 107, 108, 109, 129, 131
iPod Touch Forums: 113, 115
Best advice right there. I have no need or desire for an iPhone, but happy Apple is doing it, helps advance the company as a whole.

[kryszrich]

Talk about riding the hype wave. Everything iPhone related is moved up on the homepage. And obviously the site owner is mainly interested in iPhone at this time. This is a shame. The rest of Mac users...we are left out.

Bring on the next Mac computer with quality flaws...no one will notice.

Marsha marsha marsha.

[EricNau]

Six out of a total of ten stories on the homepage right now are entirely mac related (with nothing to do with the iPhone).

[JNB]

And five years ago folks were griping that it should be called ipodrumors.com. Like it or not, the iPhone is the first major product from Apple in a long time, and will garner a large share of attention until it matures.

You can always exclude iPhone-related topics from your forum search, and ignore the iPhone news.

[brn2ski00]

No.

Yes, the iPhone is hot right now with a lot to talk about, but next month we will be chatting about speed benching the new macbooks and drooling over the new iPods.

Get it?

[euanmackie]

it's a fair enough point. The MR communitity is growing with most new visitors coming because of either the iPhone or iPod so it's good that there are rumors for them, as for macs, it's kinda obivous rumors that are comming thru, or new ideas that seem far too ahead of time even for apple, so the get shot down by us.

[GGJstudios]

... And obviously the site owner is mainly interested in iPhone at this time. ...The rest of Mac users...we are left out.


Let's see:

over 36,890 threads and over 391,416 posts in iPhone forums
over 259,826 threads and over 2,207,863 posts on Macs and everything else.

Yep, us Mac users are left out! LOL :rolleyes:

[Trajectory]

Talk about riding the hype wave. Everything iPhone related is moved up on the homepage. And obviously the site owner is mainly interested in iPhone at this time. This is a shame. The rest of Mac users...we are left out.

I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you were saying, I'm talking on my iPhone.

I guess the dozens of other non-iPhone forums are invisible in your browser?

[the vj]

But what is new about Mac Pro? the same crap over and over again? no even comments about not having blu ray drives.

iPhone is actually the only thing evolving in Apple, the rest is about actually Intel comming with a new processor every week.

The rumors in general are not the same any more.

[arn]

Do you honestly believe that Mac content is being unreported because of the iPhone content?

You joined the forum in November 2006, so I'll assume that was a "good month" for Mac rumors/news from your perspective. It was before the iPhone was released.

Then:
Nov 2006: 1st 20 days. 36 front page posts. 20 were at least loosely Mac related

Now:
Aug 2008: 1st 20 days. 54 front page posts. 23 were at least loosely Mac related

There is more non-Mac content now, but the absolute amount of Mac content is not reduced. This month has more Mac content then the month you joined. The percentage is smaller, of course, but that's because Apple is doing more non-Mac stuff.

And in a couple of years someone will be asking "should we change the name of this site to <new apple product>rumors".

See this post from Jan 21, 2004:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=56653


However, recently the site seems to have given itself over to ipods and itunes. I can't remember the last time there was more mac stuff on page one than music stuff.

"So what?" I hear you cry. Well, the name at the top says 'macrumors', not 'ipodrumors' or indeed 'itunes rumors'. While all this music stuff has a place on the web, I don't think it should be here, on the first page of macrumors.

arn

[iTeen]

<snip>
Brave...what a great post!!!!
:)

there is a ton of mac news that comes out everyday on this site...and sure, there is ALWAYS going to be tons of hype on the lastest and greatest apple products

OP: Deal with it.

[evilgEEk]

Should "complaining" be renamed "kryszrich-ing"?

Sorry. Hurting, not helping.

Ridiculous is as ridiculous does.

Arn has already said all that needs to be said.

[Peace]

There should be guest editor stories.

[Doctor Q]

See also the FAQ entry: Why does a "Mac rumors" site have so many stories about iPods and iPhones?

[MacDawg]

See also the FAQ entry: Why does a "Mac rumors" site have so many stories about iPods and iPhones?

You mean this has come up before?? ;)

Woof, Woof - Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

[bigandy]

You mean this has come up before?? ;)

Yeah, but it's only come up about once every ten minutes, so people generally haven't noticed. :rolleyes:

Despite having no problems with how the news and rumours are reported on the front page, I'd quite like the ability for a little customisation - say three little checkboxes to exclude content you don't feel relevant to yourself. (Mac, iPod, and iPhone, for example). Sometimes I'm just totally disinterested in reading Mac articles, and sometimes I don't want to hear about the iPhone.

[Apple Ink]

What! I can still post in this thread? Shouldnt it be in Wasteland?

Being serious, the iPhone is a completely new product which aims at changing the way we see phones today! Its the next big thing and you're asking why such hype?:rolleyes:

[Brianstorm91]

I'm pretty sure that you can block certain threads and types of thread in your User CP

[rdowns]

I'll say the same thing I always say when these threads pop up. What Mac news or rumors is MR neglecting? None. OK, thanks.

[bigandy]

I'm pretty sure that you can block certain threads and types of thread in your User CP

But the OP was questioning the homepage. That's not the forum. :p

I'll say the same thing I always say when these threads pop up. What Mac news or rumors is MR neglecting? None. OK, thanks.

Well said.

[MacDawg]

But the OP was questioning the homepage. That's not the forum. :p



Wait... there is a NEWS page at MacRumors too!
No way! That is so cool! ;)

Woof, Woof – Dawg http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/pawprint.gif

[brn2ski00]

www.arnsrumors.com

[iJohnHenry]

www.arnsrumors.com
Nice link. :(

"Your PC might be infected....".

Damn, I hate that thing!!!!

On topic, I'm sure, but don't really know, when you drop that much change on a "phone", you may require constant reinforcement.

[rhett7660]

Plain and simple.. iPhone is hot. We are still hearing about other items, but right now the iPhone is it.

[Lord Blackadder]

I agree that the iPhone exposure level is obscene here - but it's the same everywhere...the iPhone is the latest gadget and everyone wants to talk about it.

...But nobody is making anyone read the iPhone threads. Just ignore them if you don't care about them. Like me. :)

[arn]

I think we should pause for a moment and see that there are currently

9 stories on Apple laptops
1 story on the iPhone

on the front page. :)

arn

[JML42691]

I think we should pause for a moment and see that there are currently

9 stories on Apple laptops
1 story on the iPhone

on the front page. :)

arn
Sadly, somebody will still complain.

[Mord]

Can we have a blanket rule that all threads bitching and whining about whatever apple product that has the limelight will be wastelanded?

They're infantile and pointless.

[rhett7660]

Can we have a blanket rule that all threads bitching and whining about whatever apple product that has the limelight will be wastelanded?

They're infantile and pointless.

I like that idea...... :D

[akadmon]

I've buried this in a thread on another forum here, but I think my sentiment deserves a little more attention than it is likely to get there (and no, the Site Feedback forum doesn't seem to be the right place, seeing that it's pretty much dead). So here it goes!

With only two out of the ten stories on the first page of Macrumors being related to the Mac, I think it is finally time the folks who own and run this site to spin off a new site dedicated to Apple gadgets and leave this one to the Mac. Otherwise just replace the word Mac in Macrumors with App(le). Yeah, App(le)rumors sounds a lot more, ahem, ap(p)ropos!

[thegoldenmackid]

We have talked about this before. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=466128)

Funny, if you want Apple Rumors, you can just go to http://applerumors.com

[r.j.s]

You may want to head over to www.pcrumors.com.

Anyway, it's a branding issue. It can't change now.

[akadmon]

We have talked about this before. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=466128)

Funny, if you want Apple Rumors, you can just go to http://applerumors.com

You may want to head over to www.pcrumors.com.

Anyway, it's a branding issue. It can't change now.

The sign over the front door still says Macrumors.

[thegoldenmackid]

The sign over the front door still says Macrumors.

As r.j.s. said, changing it now would be fruitless and a step backwards. MacRumors is a brand. It's not like Apple Computer going to Apple Inc.

The best thought on it, might be this bit of history:
The site was named MacRumors when Apple had only one of its current three product lines. The site has always covered Apple's full product line and the name in no way limits that scope.

I suggest that those who have interest in only a subset of stories use the RSS feed to pick and choose what they want to read.

Here are some other thoughts on it:

- News items are posted to the front page that are considered interesting or significant.
- We don't make up rumors or news when there isn't any on a particular topic.
- If we didn't cover iPhone news, there would be fewer news stories overall, but no more Mac stories. There isn't a collection of relevant Mac rumors/news that we skip in order to make room for iPhone news.

arn

Nope. I'd like to know about all things Apple related and this site does just that. I'm not forced to read everything on the main page. Seeds don't particularly interest me but I deal. Big whoop, Apple is patching the OS... ohhh ahhh.

a.) If you want to hear anymore about 10.5.3 then it will just be made up as all that is known is posted. News fluctuates at the moment with the expected release of the next generation iPhone then obviously there will be lots of stories about it.

b.) In regards to the forums, you can ignore posts from Forum Spy and also read Don't want to see a certain forum in "New Posts"? Here's how..

iPod Touch - Overpriced toy for twats asking to be mugged that have no friends that like to call them. :p

Back when the site was made there really wasn't much else than the Mac to report on. Apple has changed, the site has changed, it's just the domain has stayed the same.

Also if it's macrumors maybe we shouldn't post when things actually are released since those would be better suited to macfacts.

[r.j.s]

The sign over the front door still says Macrumors.

Again, it's a branding issue. MacRumors is a huge site, and can't just change its name.

EDIT: According to Alexa (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/macrumors.com), MR is ranked #1,361 on the Internet and #608 in the US for web traffic. Hard to change a name when you are that popular.

[Sun Baked]

I've buried this in a thread on another forum here, but I think my sentiment deserves a little more attention than it is likely to get there (and no, the Site Feedback forum doesn't seem to be the right place, seeing that it's pretty much dead). So here it goes!

With only two out of the ten stories on the first page of Macrumors being related to the Mac, I think it is finally time the folks who own and run this site to spin off a new site dedicated to Apple gadgets and leave this one to the Mac. Otherwise just replace the word Mac in Macrumors with App(le). Yeah, App(le)rumors sounds a lot more, ahem, ap(p)ropos!

Good god man, why couldn't you have just leave this dead and buried. :confused:

[Consultant]

Actually you should switch to applerumors.com then

Looks like macrumors also owns that URL, hum branding...

[abijnk]

While I suppose I understand your issue, no one is forcing you to continue to frequent the site... Arn and co. have done exactly what they need to do, and that is evolve with the company they are centered around. This site started before the first iPod was in stores, if I have my dates correct, so how could anyone have known almost ten years ago that the major money maker for the company would turn out to be another Apple product other than the mac? If the decision had been made to stick with the literal meaning of the website's name (macs only) the site would have suffered overall.

I would understand if there was some sort of failure on the part of the site to report on mac news, but there simply isn't. This site remains on the forefront of reporting for macs, all while addressing the other products of Apple as a whole. I, for one, am thankful that there exists such a high quality source of Apple related news.

Also, your complaint completely ignores the fact that Apple and it's gadgets are inextricably tied with the mac. The beauty of Apple products is their seamless integration with each other. It wouldn't make any sense to have an iPod site that completely ignored the mac, or vice versa. While each product can be used completely independent of each other, there is and always will be so much crossover that untying the two would be an impossible task.

[akadmon]

Branding issue? Seeing you guys are so skilled at redirecting traffic, why not try a gradual transition, during which people browsing for macrumors.com would get to a page that presents them with the choice of going to the true (ha!) Macrumors and the phone(y) one. Over time, people would just bookmark one or the other, depending on their interests, and you could eventually do away with the "Two roads diverged in a yellow wood" page.

[abijnk]

Branding issue? Seeing you guys are so skilled at redirecting traffic, why not try a gradual transition, during which people browsing for macrumors.com would get to a page that presents them with the choice of going to the true (ha!) Macrumors and the phone(y) one. Over time, people would just bookmark one or the other, depending on their interests, and you could eventually do away with the "Two roads diverged in a yellow wood" page.

Ok, maybe I'm being overly blunt, but why would/should anyone work to redirect traffic to a new site from an incredibly well established one when it would be so much easier for people who care (i.e. you) to just leave?

[r.j.s]

Branding issue? Seeing you guys are so skilled at redirecting traffic, why not try a gradual transition, during which people browsing for macrumors.com would get to a page that presents them with the choice of going to the true (ha!) Macrumors and the phone(y) one. Over time, people would just bookmark one or the other, depending on their interests, and you could eventually do away with the "Two roads diverged in a yellow wood" page.

As Abbie explained, Apple's products are all intertwined. If you want a site that is only Mac news and discussion - start it.

[Sun Baked]

We can help you out with your problems with this site, a simple IP ban and you'd never have to worry about this site again.

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6694

[akadmon]

Ok, maybe I'm being overly blunt, but why would/should anyone work to redirect traffic to a new site from an incredibly well established one when it would be so much easier for people who care (i.e. you) to just leave?

OK, maybe I'm being overly idealistic, but I would hope arn @ company would do this because they care about the frequenters of their site(s) as much as they do about the bottom line?

But whatever. I'll just skip the front page from now on and go straight to the forums that interest me here, whilst ignoring all the adverts (just as I have ignored them since my first day here).

[thegoldenmackid]

OK, maybe I'm being overly idealistic, but I would hope arn @ company would do this because they care about the frequenters of their site(s) as much as they do about the bottom line?

But whatever. I'll just skip the front page from now on and go straight the forums that interest me here, whilst ignoring all the adverts (just as I have ignored them since my first day here).

My post above has responses from the moderating crew and arn regarding the non-Macness. What at all does it matter to the "frequenters of this site" that it says Mac instead of Apple?

[ravenvii]

I'm interested in Apple news, not just Mac news, and this site delivers.

Yeah, AppleRumors sounds better, but it's been MacRumors for almost a decade now, so we'll have to live with it, don'tcha think?

I also think the logo looks heinous (clever yes, but heinous) but it's also been there for almost a decade, so it's here to stay. Ain't stopping me from visiting the site multiple times a day, though.

You think you can do better? Make a site yourself and see if others agree, eh?

[thegoldenmackid]

Please answer my question.

[SpaceKitty]

It was because of buying an iPhone in June of 2007 that I found this site. I signed up here on another name that I couldn't remember. I was excited to own something made by Apple. A week after owning the iPhone, I bought my very first Mac, a 15" MBP. During that week before.

What mattered to me was that this site had a forum set aside for the iPhone. If it wasn't for the iPhone, I would never have bought a MBP. The iPhone impressed me so much that I had to have a Mac because I heard that there was a photo app that worked so perfectly with the iPhone. It wasn't as easy to import photos on my HP laptop and when I got the Mac, it seemed like everything between the iPhone and Mac were designed to work together perfectly.

The iPhone will always belong here on this forum and just like me, it makes others buy their very first Mac as well. I've heard of many others who have bought a Mac because of the iPhone.