WWDC Prediction Thread

[Mykbibby]

WWDC is coming up in a couple months, and I think many, like myself, are eager to predict, and see what others have to say, about just what Jobs will unveil. Therefore, I give you the WWDC prediction thread! I'll start with my predictions...

3G iPhone:

- 3G (duh)
- OLED, higher resolution, screen
- Slightly thinner enclosure (maybe)
- I do think they may change the color of the back to black to make it look different (maybe not that glossy black, but Black aluminum? That would be awesome.)
- GPS will be included. I am positive. The triangulation was a "replacement" until battery gets better (3.0? 4.0?)
- Speaking of battery, it will boast a better battery life for sure. That announcement would be great to hear!
- Video Conferencing camera on the front! (edit: better photo cam for sure. Photo booth effects?)
- Finally, 32 GB iPhone offered with 64 GB iPod Touch.

This will be available at WWDC based on Mossberg's comments. By the way Mossberg said 60 days, its obvious it won't just be an announcement at WWDC, but rather availability.

2.0:
Expect further talk on the next software update, with more Apple added features (iChat for video...) and some more developer announcements. I would think they would demo games such as Trism (not that I know anything about that in particular ;) ). Immediate availability.

Macbook/ Macbook Pro:
I predict a full redesign of one or both of these, with thinner enclosures, aluminum for the mb, and all the stuff you've already heard. (edit: mb/MVP updates expected in June via Macrumors)

Mac Enterprise:
- I expect a mac-like version of the iPhone Enterprise solution. Apple will want to seize the opportunity in which Vista is being avoided to take some marketshare. We may hear an announcement regarding this.

And finally, for old times sakes.. (edit: I don't expect Any of this to come).

- New Cinema Displays! With an iChat Camera!
- Powerbook G5!
- Beatles on iTunes!
- Two button mouse!
- Mac mini discontinued!
- Tablet Mac!

So that's what I got... What do you have? Thoughts? Disagreements? Predictions of your own? Apple Employee who wants to confirm any of this?

[yoyo5280]

3G iPhone:

- 3G (duh)
- OLED, higher resolution, screen
- Slightly thinner enclosure (maybe)
- I do think they may change the color of the back to black to make it look different (maybe not that glossy black, but Black aluminum? That would be awesome.)
- Knowing Jobs' obsession with battery, GPS will not be included. I am positive. The triangulation was a "replacement" until battery gets better (3.0? 4.0?)
- Speaking of battery, it will boast a better battery life for sure. That announcement would be great to hear!
- Video Conferencing camera on the front!
- Finally, 32 GB iPhone offered with 64 GB iPod Touch.

This will be available at WWDC based on Mossberg's comments. By the way Mossberg said 60 days, its obvious it won't just be an announcement at WWDC, but rather availability.

2.0:
Expect further talk on the next software update, with more Apple added features (iChat for video...) and some more developer announcements. I would think they would demo games such as Trism (not that I know anything about that in particular ;) ). Immediate availability.

Macbook/ Macbook Pro:
I predict a full redesign of one or both of these, with thinner enclosures, aluminum for the mb, and all the stuff you've already heard.


I think the same ^ just not the aluminum part

[Santa Rosa]

Very much doubt the OLED screen on it, would put good money on that.

[Zwhaler]

I agree about the iPhone (although we probably won't see OLED), but I disagree about the MacBooks. They will never be aluminum. That is one of the attractive features of the MBA and MBP, and Apple would rather have you buy those. And about the ACDs... I don't really expect anything at WWDC. But it would be nice, of course.

edit: I say the Macbooks will never be silver aluminum (like MBP and MBA) colored maybe.

[Mykbibby]

I take back the OLED... but it may be an option for a higher priced phone. We'll see...

The reason I say 64 GB Touch is because Jobs said that the touch will always be ahead of the iPhone in space.

Aluminum Macbooks will come, because of Jobs' design obsession. The plastic is getting old. However, I could expect the new MBPs to be Black aluminum.

The ACD and all the end stuff was just a joke...

[JBaker122586]

I predict no new iPhone will be released or announced.
And there's absolutely no way that a 64 GB touch will be coming out. Unless it cost $1000.

[basesloaded190]

yeah i don't see anything happening to the touch except the 2.0 release. a 3g iphone of course and possibly upgrades to the imac and mini

[cjmal]

Most of the stuff that you mentioned seems pretty reasonable. I don't think we'll see a higher resolution screen though. Just an opinion. I'd love to see them start using better quality screens though.

[benmrii]

MacBooks will never be aluminum. It is the most prominent distinguishing characteristic and has been for many years. It won't change as long as there are both MacBooks and MacBook Pros.

[psychofreak]

MacBooks will never be aluminum. It is the most prominent distinguishing characteristic and has been for many years. It won't change as long as there are both MacBooks and MacBook Pros.

I think the Air will phase out to be the Macbook once powerful enough, and like with the iPod, the plastic will be gone.

[AceFernalld]

WWDC is coming up in a couple months, and I think many, like myself, are eager to predict, and see what others have to say, about just what Jobs will unveil. Therefore, I give you the WWDC prediction thread! I'll start with my predictions...

3G iPhone:

- 3G (duh)
- OLED, higher resolution, screen
- Slightly thinner enclosure (maybe)
- I do think they may change the color of the back to black to make it look different (maybe not that glossy black, but Black aluminum? That would be awesome.)
- Knowing Jobs' obsession with battery, GPS will not be included. I am positive. The triangulation was a "replacement" until battery gets better (3.0? 4.0?)
- Speaking of battery, it will boast a better battery life for sure. That announcement would be great to hear!
- Video Conferencing camera on the front!
- Finally, 32 GB iPhone offered with 64 GB iPod Touch.

This will be available at WWDC based on Mossberg's comments. By the way Mossberg said 60 days, its obvious it won't just be an announcement at WWDC, but rather availability.

2.0:
Expect further talk on the next software update, with more Apple added features (iChat for video...) and some more developer announcements. I would think they would demo games such as Trism (not that I know anything about that in particular ;) ). Immediate availability.

Macbook/ Macbook Pro:
I predict a full redesign of one or both of these, with thinner enclosures, aluminum for the mb, and all the stuff you've already heard.

Mac Enterprise:
- I expect a mac-like version of the iPhone Enterprise solution. Apple will want to seize the opportunity in which Vista is being avoided to take some marketshare. We may hear an announcement regarding this.

And finally, for old times sakes...

- New Cinema Displays! With an iChat Camera!
- Powerbook G5!
- Beatles on iTunes!
- Two button mouse!
- Mac mini discontinued!
- Tablet Mac!

So that's what I got... What do you have? Thoughts? Disagreements? Predictions of your own? Apple Employee who wants to confirm any of this?
Wow, I frigging love that someone made a thread with WWDC predictions, I've been searching and waiting, yet too lazy to make my own.

I completely agree with the 3G iPhone/No GPS till 3.0/iPhone 32Gb.

And the review of additional 2.0 features and final review of applications being made by 3rd parties and Apple themselves, I love how someone finally said/agrees with me on this.

The MacBook redesigns however, won't happen. We just saw updates! The Mac Mini and iMac will be updated before WWDC, and I don't think they'll discontinue their consumer tower. Probably no tablet or any other additional hardware until Macworld 09.

As a side note, I hope to god that they release the 2.0 firmware on the day of the WWDC conference (June 9th or 10th, however it hasn't been confirmed if Jobs will even appear :(). AND iChat ;)

All the best
~Austin~

[JBaker122586]

64 GB iPod touch will NOT happen unless there is some gigantic technological leap in the next month.
32 GB flash chips run hundreds of dollars each.

[lamina]

MacBooks will never be aluminum. It is the most prominent distinguishing characteristic and has been for many years. It won't change as long as there are both MacBooks and MacBook Pros.

Look what happened to the iMacs. They got the same aluminum enclosure as the Mac Pro...

[benmrii]

Look what happened to the iMacs. They got the same aluminum enclosure as the Mac Pro...

That's a completely different scenario. The iMacs are a desktop that have no close brother that they need to distinguish themselves from.

I think the Air will phase out to be the Macbook once powerful enough, and like with the iPod, the plastic will be gone.

Aside from "wow, I sure hope not," this is very unlikely as well. The MacBook Air is designed for a very specific kind of consumer, both in features (those available and those not) and price point. I sincerely doubt that will ever happen.

[AceFernalld]

64 GB iPod touch will NOT happen unless there is some gigantic technological leap in the next month.
32 GB flash chips run hundreds of dollars each.
Actually, after I logically think about it, I kinda agree with this guy, cause the MSRP would be 700 bucks. I do however, predict a $50 price drop on the iPod touch's.

[kdarling]

- Knowing Jobs' obsession with battery, GPS will not be included. I am positive.

That's not how CEOs think. I consult to big corporation top execs. Jobs' obsession is with making dollars.

It simply made Apple more money to go with EDGE at first, coasting along until they hit a sales speed bump in Europe, before being forced into 3G.

They have no choice now. At this point, it's either go 3G or give up overseas, especially in the Far East. Doesn't matter if there are new chips or not, poor battery life or not. The decision is not about those things.

[AceFernalld]

That's not how CEOs think. I consult to phone company top execs. Jobs' obsession is with making dollars.

It simply made Apple more money to go with EDGE at first, coasting along until they hit a sales speed bump in Europe, before being forced into 3G.

They have no choice now. At this point, it's either go 3G or give up overseas, especially in the Far East. Doesn't matter if there are new chips or not, poor battery life or not. The decision is not about those things.
I disagree, because with adding 3G/ maybe a front camera/new software features in 2.0, he still needs to draw out sales to keep people interested. If he adds this in 3.0 instead of with 2.0 with the other features he can attract new buyers, and get 1st generation and 2nd generation users to buy a new one. As he went with 2.5G first and will add 3G to attract new buyers, he'll make the same transition with GPS, but not in this version.

All in my opinion of course, all the best.
~Austin~

[kdarling]

Oh sure, you're right, they might, or might not, add GPS and front camera at this time.

All I'm saying, is that in real life, battery life is not the deciding factor, no matter what he says publicly to appease the masses.

It'll always be the same pattern. Anything that's left out, will be "power hungry" or "not cool enough" yet. In the meantime, other smartphones somehow manage.

[benmrii]

Personally I don't think we'll see GPS for a few reasons:

1) I don't think it is something that many people are really looking for in a phone. I mean, a good portion of us on these boards would love it, but is it really something the average iPhone consumer cares about?
2) Battery consumption. With the other things being added, 3G at the very least, they'll be overly concerned with the battery consumption aspect. Adding GPS will take a backseat for now.
3) Apple and Steve Jobs tend to be a little elitist on their choices between two possible directions. GPS was one option, Skyhook (the current Wi-Fi location finder) was the other. They went with Skyhook. I won't be surprised if we hear something like, "We feel that, as Wi-Fi is more and more available to consumers in public locations, Skyhook is the future of personal locator devices."

[benmrii]

Oh sure, you're right, they might or might not add GPS and front camera at this time.

All I'm saying, is that in real life, battery life is not the deciding factor, no matter what he says publicly to appease the masses.

Battery life is very much a deciding factor. Think about the broad consumer base and take 3G vs. EDGE as an example. There were only three possible reasons to choose EDGE over 3G at the time of iPhone's release: size of the iPhone (thickness), price of the iPhone, and battery consumption.

The first two are, at worst, negligible. The reality is that most consumers that were willing to shell out the money right from the start, prior to those of us who have used 3G for years on smart phones and prior to having any of the business capabilities that the iPhone will finally have come the new software, are/were very likely to complain about battery life more than anything else.

[kdarling]

Interestingly, the trend seems to be the other direction:

Fewer public WiFi hotspots, and more dependency on highspeed cell comms.

As for GPS, the main reason they'd be pressed into adding it, would be their Google connection. Google is hot for LBS apps.

[butterfly0fdoom]

MacBooks will never be aluminum. It is the most prominent distinguishing characteristic and has been for many years. It won't change as long as there are both MacBooks and MacBook Pros.

There is an easy solution that exists in the iPod line. Offer the MB in various colored aluminum shells and the MBP in silver (and possibly black). The MacBook is only a 2 year old product, too. There was once a time when both the PowerBook and the iBook were made from plastic. The distinguishing factor then was the iBook was available in colors and the PowerBook was black.

[kdarling]

There were only three possible reasons to choose EDGE over 3G at the time of iPhone's release: size of the iPhone (thickness), price of the iPhone, and battery consumption.

I did a little analysis.

Going 3G instead of EDGE would've almost doubled the chip cost from around $13 to $25. In real life, that's huge. The extra time / effort involved in getting 3G running would've been significant as well. (I also don't buy the idea that ATT would've offered a $20 data plan for 3G, but ignore that for now.)

Altogether, companies like Piper Jaffray have estimated that a 3G phone would've raised the original price by $100. At launch, that would've been too much.

As anyone who kept up from the beginning recalls, the original iPhone specs had HALF the battery life as now. Remember? So probably they dropped the cpu speed to raise the life. They could've done that a little more if needed for 3G, or slightly thickened the body for more battery.

[benmrii]

The MacBook is only a 2 year old product, too. There was once a time when both the PowerBook and the iBook were made from plastic. The distinguishing factor then was the iBook was available in colors and the PowerBook was black.

The MacBook is only two years old but it is little more than a renamed iBook from when Apple made the decision to have "Mac" as a part of the name of all their computer products. For much longer than 2 years you've had the iBook/MacBook as plastic while its portable compatriot, the PowerBook/MacBook Pro, has been aluminum. It's just my opinion, but I still very seriously doubt that as long as there is both MacBook and MacBook Pro that the MacBook won't be aluminum.

[benmrii]

Going 3G instead of EDGE would've almost doubled the chip cost from around $13 to $25. In real life, that's huge. The extra time / effort involved in getting 3G running would've been significant as well. (I also don't buy the idea that ATT would've offered a $20 data plan for 3G, but ignore that for now.)

Altogether, companies like Piper Jaffray have estimated that a 3G phone would've raised the original price by $100. At launch, that would've been too much.

As anyone who kept up from the beginning recalls, the original iPhone specs had HALF the battery life as now. Remember? So probably they dropped the cpu speed to raise the life. They could've done that a little more if needed for 3G, or slightly thickened the body for more battery.

AT&T already offers unlimited data plans on 3G for $20 so that point is moot.

As for the $100 price increase, I think that is moot as well. "As anyone who kept up from the beginning recalls," the price point of the original iPhone was already reduced once by $200. Clearly Apple could afford to sell the iPhones from the very beginning for a lot less than they were up front. So while adding $12 more to the cost of putting together the iPhone is, I'll agree, not completely insignificant, it isn't near as daunting as a $100 price increase sounds out of context.

Lastly, the increase in battery life over time makes my point quite well. They released an iPhone with a years out of date technology at its foundation (considering the vast majority of the iPhone's features and what makes it unique require wireless connectivity), and the only upgrades they have made since its inception is to increase storage capacity and increase the battery life. Sounds to me it is very much an important aspect.

[butterfly0fdoom]

The MacBook is only two years old but it is little more than a renamed iBook from when Apple made the decision to have "Mac" as a part of the name of all their computer products. For much longer than 2 years you've had the iBook/MacBook as plastic while its portable compatriot, the PowerBook/MacBook Pro, has been aluminum. It's just my opinion, but I still very seriously doubt that as long as there is both MacBook and MacBook Pro that the MacBook won't be aluminum.

I dunno, the MacBook and the iBook seem to be rather different creatures, despite being targeted at the same demographic. Whereas the iBook and the PowerBook had a rather considerable gap, the MacBook is nearly able to rival the MacBook Pro so long as you don't need a discrete graphics chip. Just remember, the PowerBook wasn't always aluminum.

[carfac]

How about led backlights on more MBPs... and maybe, just maybe, HiRes screens???? Just a thought...

[extraextra]

iPhone -
For sure: 3G.

Maybe: higher MP camera, two cameras (I highly doubt this one though), more battery life, a cheaper price point (if they keep 8GB and introduce 32GB), MMS (pretty please), sdk stuff.

Regarding other things, I really hope they update the Cinema Displays, those have been sitting around forever. And either drop the price or raise the specs of the Mac Mini, I can't understand how it even sells, to be honest.

I think the Air will phase out to be the Macbook once powerful enough, and like with the iPod, the plastic will be gone.

I don't think they are going to have their cheapest laptop start at $1799. As well as the Macbook Air sells, they need the Macbok because many students buy it, as well as people looking for a good portability-hardware-price ratio.

[benmrii]

I dunno, the MacBook and the iBook seem to be rather different creatures, despite being targeted at the same demographic. Whereas the iBook and the PowerBook had a rather considerable gap, the MacBook is nearly able to rival the MacBook Pro so long as you don't need a discrete graphics chip. Just remember, the PowerBook wasn't always aluminum.

Don't get me wrong, there were certainly some significant upgrades given to the MacBook, it wasn't just a name change. I'm just suggesting that we not state the MacBook is a new product - such as the MacBook Air - but more the next revision of the iBook. And as you said, the MacBook/iBook is targeted to one demographic while the PowerBook/MacBook Pro is targeted to another. That is a very significant difference.

And while it's true that the PowerBook/MBPro has not always been aluminum, less than 1.5 years after the plastic iBook was introduced it was. So for the vast majority of the time that both have been in existence there has been that obvious distinction. I'd go so far as to suggest that part of the reason the iBook was never available in black was one more effort to keep the distinction between the two, even though it was years before that the PowerBook was black.

[MattInOz]

I can't see iPhone hardware being released at WWDC, for the same reason they don't release iPods, iMacs or Macbooks at the Developer Conference.

They don't have the right media there, and if start doing that sort of thing, Sure they have tech media but not the real consummer focused ones. If they start getting that part of the media there, they'll no developers and end up with lots of coverage about how dull the event was just talking about boring computer stuff.

I'd predict AppStore Launch date set for say two weeks after WWDC so that those at conference see it as a chance to get last minutes questions answered sort of keynote.

New iPhone released at the AppStore Launch media event.
They might want a hardware launch or two in weeks before to get the hype rolling.
iPod Updates in the weeks after iPhone/AppStore Event.

[Mykbibby]

Do you think we could see Final Cut Studio Upgrades?

[Santa Rosa]

but it may be an option for a higher priced phone. We'll see...

Im sorry but I think you are very wrong. There will be certainly no OLED iPhone (ok I will look a tool if there is but Im 99% sure).

And there definitely wont be an optional OLED iPhone, Apple aren't going to market something that will simply confuse consumers and give unnecessary complication in the buying and repair process, its common sense there will definitely 100% unbelievable sure wont be a different screen option.

[meerkats]

Predictions:

-3G iPhone, slightly different in some way to make it cooler looking that the current model in some way (black, thinner, form factor, etc.)

-Some features of iPhone 2.0 software will be exclusive to the new 3G iphone (perhaps video chat, IM, etc.)

On the aluminum Macbook discussion: Although the white plastic used to signify the non-pro line, we now have aluminum ipods, aluminum iMacs, etc. I expect we will see the same thing happen with the Macbook ... perhaps aluminum with a black screen bezel like the iMac/Ipod Touch design.

Good predictions all around ... hopefully there will be something exciting this year that we don't already know about ...

Best,

D

[lofight]

3G iPhone is a must!! But I'm not sure about 64GB, it seems really big and above all pricey.
GPS could be a new feature, but why did they then choose for the Skyhook service?
I don't think MMS is coming. If they didn't put MMS in the first place, I think they will never do it. I don't consider MMS as a BIG hit. I personally have never used it, and I think if you have an iphone which can send emails easy, you'll use that way. Jobs probably thinks the same.
Maybe iPhone redesign, but, how can they make it look much cooler? :p
I don't believe in a second camera, so i also don't in iChat for the iPhone. 3rd party developers will make some chat solutions.
A camera upgrade is possible, but not necessary.
I also doubt they'll put a better battery in it.
I don't believe they'll use OLED now, isn't it still more pricey?
I also think that the 3G iPhone will fully replace the former EDGE one, and not be a stronger brother.

Macbook will probably stay white/black I think. It would boring to have almost every product in aluminium. Or maybe a macbook in something new, not aluminium, and not the plastic.

Maybe a SSD option for MBP?

[razorianfly]

-Some features of iPhone 2.0 software will be exclusive to the new 3G iphone (perhaps video chat, IM, etc.)

I disagree.

When Steve announced the SDK and version 2.0 of the software back in March he specifically made it clear that the iPod touch was going to receive the exact same update as the iPhone, the only difference being, iPod touch users have to pay a nominal fee .. which I personally have no quills with, after being milked for the first one.

If 'Jailbreaking' has shown Apple anything, it's that they cannot separate their products just by adding exclusive software features, because if they did, chances are those 'exclusive features' would be on the iPod touch, through some hack, within hours. (Mail, Notes, Weather, Maps and Stocks, anyone?)

It's going to be the same software update, for both devices, but we iPod touch users will have to pay for the privilege.

Loving the idea of an Apple-designed iChat client, although AOL seem to have some of that market covered with their demoed and promised AIM client. Apple won't want to duplicate applications on a new platform.

R-Fly

[Mykbibby]

Macbook will probably stay white/black I think. It would boring to have almost every product in aluminium. Or maybe a macbook in something new, not aluminium, and not the plastic.

Gold?

[Mykbibby]

Im sorry but I think you are very wrong. There will be certainly no OLED iPhone (ok I will look a tool if there is but Im 99% sure).

And there definitely wont be an optional OLED iPhone, Apple aren't going to market something that will simply confuse consumers and give unnecessary complication in the buying and repair process, its common sense there will definitely 100% unbelievable sure wont be a different screen option.

I meant bundled with other stuff. Maybe they could sell a 3G phone with current design for 399 with 8 GB, but sell a 499 with 16GB, and a 599 with 32 GB, OLED, camera for front and back, increased battery, etc.

By the way, this isn't a prediction, just a thought.

Also, any thoughts on the enterprise for macs idea? Am I right, or way off?

[olternaut]

Very much doubt the OLED screen on it, would put good money on that.

I dunno. Yes there is a greater chance that we won't see a OLED screen on it. But I think there is a chance we will....a slim chance but a chance.

[corrado7]

GPS could be a new feature, but why did they then choose for the Skyhook service?


Skyhook is not that accurate. It was a temporary solution (until new phone comes out - hopefully) and prob a permanent solution for the edge phone which does not have gps.

[bkarre]

What about a 802.11n wireless card in the iPhone? That's the way of the future and apple must have them lying all over the place since they've been putting them in laptops for so long...

I'm nearly certain I'm getting an iPhone when 2.0 is released, and if they upped the wireless to an n card I might just have to get a Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme also...

[lofight]

Gold?
platinum? :p I was thinking of a complete new sort of material, that they haven't used.
Skyhook is not that accurate. It was a temporary solution (until new phone comes out - hopefully) and prob a permanent solution for the edge phone which does not have gps.

Could Skyhook update it, so that it's more accurate?

[Santa Rosa]

Skyhook is not that accurate. It was a temporary solution (until new phone comes out - hopefully) and prob a permanent solution for the edge phone which does not have gps.

Its not that bad when its working good.

Just out of interest are you a VW Corrado fan, just guessing from your username. I love Corrado's but unfortunately insurance companies aren't so keen on my age the buggers!!!

[G4R2]

I'm not convinced about the added value of true GPS and 802.11n when it comes to mobile phones. I'm sure that there is a subset of users who would certainly benefit from these features. However, for the majority of users these features would only represent a powerdrain and add very little in terms of practical features. I believe that whatever added additional miniaturization and power surplus that Apple can achieve would instead be devoted first and foremost to increasing the memory capacity of the device for two reasons.

First, the iPhone in addition to being a phone has been designed and marketed to be an iPod. 16 gigs is good- 32 gigs is near the sweet spot for such a device, particularly when video is taken into account.

And second- applications. All those applications are going to need to fit somewhere and it's going to start to be a tight squeeze on even a 16 gig device when movies, music, and photos are included.

I do think that GPS has a place in this picture for those who desire it, but I would speculate this would come through a third party GPS puck connected to the iPhone via Bluetooth.

As for 802.11n, the main appeal is doing away with the downshift to 802.11g speed necessary on wireless networks to connect the iPhone. For most on the road use 802.11n is overkill. It only becomes appealing when and if wireless syncing of large media files ever occurs.

I also think that one feature that really needs some attention that could be easily addressed is the photo/video capture abilities of the device. With the integration with iPhoto and the higher capacity storage than most camera's this is a no-brainer. Let's see a higher megapixel chip with some video integrated with both iPhoto and iMovie to make the iPhone/iLife combo a complete multimedia solution.

[Mykbibby]

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Well, I was right. Macbooks and Macbook Pros will be redeisgned for WWDC... And the MacBooks will be aluminum. Via Apple Insider...

[butterfly0fdoom]

Appleinsider isn't the most accurate source, but most of us saw it coming. The iMac and the MBA show a new design direction of aluminum and tapers. It's only natural that the MB and MBP see the same evolution, especially with the 2 year industrial design cycle.

[lofight]

Appleinsider isn't the most accurate source, but most of us saw it coming. The iMac and the MBA show a new design direction of aluminum and tapers. It's only natural that the MB and MBP see the same evolution, especially with the 2 year industrial design cycle.

I hope they'll change, but not as appleinsider describes. I don't want a macbook in aluminium..

[hammernaji]

Maybe the new Macbooks/MBPs will finally have built in SD card readers?

Any hope of that? Why does Apple not put in flash card readers in any of their computers? :confused:

iPhone: I hope they do get MMS, just b/c some people don't think its necessary doesn't mean they shouldn't put it in. The iPhone, afterall, is supposed to be the best "media phone" out there, right? Just give people the option of sending MMS, if they would rather use email, fine. I feel the same way about GPS. If you put it in there, it will only drain the battery when you use it. You can at least have it for situations where you need it.

[AceFernalld]

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Well, I was right. Macbooks and Macbook Pros will be redeisgned for WWDC... And the MacBooks will be aluminum. Via Apple Insider...
Ehhh....AppleInsider is getting that from one of their sources, and nothing is official until it's announced by Apple, there is no proof or evidence that MB's will be redesigned for WWDC.
That's only a 3 month period from an update to new chips to a design overhaul. "Intel's roadmap calls for Montevina to splash down this June, around the same time Apple will host its annual developers conference in San Francisco. However, it's unclear at this time whether the Mac maker will use that forum to showcase its new notebook designs, or reserve their unveiling for a different stage at a slightly later date." They aren't even confirming WWDC as their release date. I doubt any other hardware than iPhone/iPod touch related things will be released at WWDC.

Just saying :)

[benmrii]

Two things that did stand out to me as believable in the AppleInsider post are that Apple is changing them because of their effort to go more green (and the first step there really should be their depot shipping process, but I digress) and the intentional continuity of design amongst their products.

"Going green" was stated clearly and changing the form factor/design/materials of a significant line of products is a very obvious, public way of saying, "See! We meant it."

Looking at the entire product line is and making them similar in various ways is something Apple has done a few times in the past and is a great marketing tool, specifically if you're historically and foundationally a computer company that has the most popular music player and ground breaking mobile phone that are getting more and more people looking your way. If you see similarities it's easier to keep heading down the line of Apple products.

My point stands, though: in my opinion, the MacBook and MacBook Pro will always look significantly different, most likely by their basic materials.

[graymccarty]

I'm seeing a 3G iPhone, along with a Rogers iPhone announcement, and a Chinese announcement.

[PowerFullMac]

I just hope they release a iPhone Nano!

[JBaker122586]

I just hope they release a iPhone Nano!

Yup, that's definitely going to happen.

[Mykbibby]

Yup, that's definitely going to happen.

I guarentee there won't be an iPhone nano. I heard from a friend who did an ad for Apple's 2nd gen nano that it will never happen. Yes, I know things change, but I doubt we'll see one until the next few iphones really take off, like to the point of the RAZR. For now, don't get your hopes up.

[corrado7]

Its not that bad when its working good.

Just out of interest are you a VW Corrado fan, just guessing from your username. I love Corrado's but unfortunately insurance companies aren't so keen on my age the buggers!!!

My first car was a 90 Corrado. Still miss the car to this day, but i dont miss the price i had to pay for some parts that needed replacements.

[shaggy.mac]

iPhone 3G is coming to the US but is it worth it? the 3G iPhone wont be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds because AT&T doesn't have a Nationwide 3G network!

Tmobile customers are out of luck (in the US) because Tmobile doesnt have a 3G network in the US!

so I hope Apple will come out with some new hardware features like Bluetooth with A2DP and 802.11n and iTunes Movie Rentals on the phone!

[corrado7]

iPhone 3G is coming to the US but is it worth it? the 3G iPhone wont be able to take advantage of the 3G speeds because AT&T doesn't have a Nationwide 3G network!

Tmobile customers are out of luck (in the US) because Tmobile doesnt have a 3G network in the US!

so I hope Apple will come out with some new hardware features like Bluetooth with A2DP and 802.11n and iTunes Movie Rentals on the phone!

did you even do a little bit of research before you opened your mouth? ATT is rapidly expanding 3G coverage and T-mobile said that they will have 3G in late summer

[PowerFullMac]

I guarentee there won't be an iPhone nano. I heard from a friend who did an ad for Apple's 2nd gen nano that it will never happen. Yes, I know things change, but I doubt we'll see one until the next few iphones really take off, like to the point of the RAZR. For now, don't get your hopes up.

Apple is known for spreading bogus info about new products. They are not going to say to the guy who designed 1 advert for them "Yeah, were making a new iPhone, just dont tell anyone!" are they???

[JBaker122586]

I guarentee there won't be an iPhone nano. I heard from a friend who did an ad for Apple's 2nd gen nano that it will never happen. Yes, I know things change, but I doubt we'll see one until the next few iphones really take off, like to the point of the RAZR. For now, don't get your hopes up.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
There's a 0% chance of an iPhone nano.

[Mykbibby]

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I guarentee there won't be an iPhone nano. I heard from a friend who did an ad for Apple's 2nd gen nano that it will never happen. Yes, I know things change, but I doubt we'll see one until the next few iphones really take off, like to the point of the RAZR. For now, don't get your hopes up.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
There's a 0% chance of an iPhone nano.

good... Its so far away from Apple's phone concept, especially now. Maybe, only MAYBE in a few years

[Mykbibby]

Edit: GPS will definately be included, considering the lower power chips available. I'm also thinking we may see live tv, but probably not.

[benmrii]

I'm also thinking we may see live tv, but probably not.

Considering how many phones have it now, several of the direct "iPhone killer" competitors included, I feel it would be a mistake if it was missing.

[PowerFullMac]

A new iPhone will need: 3.5G (HSPDA), GPS, video calling, 2.0, mobile TV, 16GB and 32GB, better camera with video capture, MMS, Bluetooth file transfers...

Thats, or at least most of that, is what it would need to get me to throw away my iPod touch for one.

[Brianstorm91]

Time to get out the Apple Bingo Cards, I can't remember which ones are left over from MacWorld '08 except new Cinema Displays and Mac Mini.

[mowogg]

3G iPhone- same form factor as current, but perhaps slightly fatter for a larger battery. 16Gig and 32Gig, stereo bluetooth capable
Stereo bluetooth headphone with dangle mic
iPhone 2.0 roll-out
iTunes App Store
New iTunes pricing structure - content providers set their own price. Starting to see this now with HBO and some UK shows
Update on OSX roadmap - OS X 10.5.3 released, 10.6 in fall of 2010
New .Mac features - more robust calendaring and sync services tied to OSX server
AppleTV updated to 80gig at same price point, 160gig stays
Macbook LED backlight (coming soon)
MacBook Pro with EVDO built-in (coming soon)
Update to iPhoto incorporating coverflow
Bluray drive option in Mac Pro, iMac (coming soon)

[PowerFullMac]

3G iPhone- same form factor as current, but perhaps slightly fatter for a larger battery. 16Gig and 32Gig, stereo bluetooth capable
Stereo bluetooth headphone with dangle mic
iPhone 2.0 roll-out
iTunes App Store
New iTunes pricing structure - content providers set their own price. Starting to see this now with HBO and some UK shows
Update on OSX roadmap - OS X 10.5.3 released, 10.6 in fall of 2010
New .Mac features - more robust calendaring and sync services tied to OSX server
AppleTV updated to 80gig at same price point, 160gig stays
Macbook LED backlight (coming soon)
MacBook Pro with EVDO built-in (coming soon)
Update to iPhoto incorporating coverflow
Bluray drive option in Mac Pro, iMac (coming soon)

I definatly hope the Blu-ray drive thing is true!

The iPhoto CoverFlow sounds cool, too!

[lofight]

Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
There's a 0% chance of an iPhone nano.

How could you know? There is a chance that an iphone nano will come. What if the mass majority of smartphone users have an iphone, and peopl who don't want to pay for a full iphone only buy from nokia, samsung etc. Then it's maybe time for a smaller iphone with less capabilities and certainly a smaller price.

[PowerFullMac]

How could you know? There is a chance that an iphone nano will come. What if the mass majority of smartphone users have an iphone, and peopl who don't want to pay for a full iphone only buy from nokia, samsung etc. Then it's maybe time for a smaller iphone with less capabilities and certainly a smaller price.

Exactly!

I installed your Black Chill Adium theme, BTW!

[lofight]

Exactly!

I installed your Black Chill Adium theme, BTW!

Really! thanks. :):D

[zombitronic]

We all want multi-touch on our desktops, but we don't want to have to elevate our arms the entire time while we browse the web, look through pictures, etc. We feel comfortable looking at our displays at eye-level directly in front of us and don't want to stare downward at our screens, at least not at our desks.

We could meet somewhere in the middle with an angled display, but we also don't want to drop a few hundred or more on a new multi-touch capable display/tablet. Not all of us, at least. How much would we be willing to pay to bring multi-touch to our current machines? $100-$200? I might.

This is why I predict the Mighty Mouse Touch (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=325610) at this year's WWDC.

[MacSA]

iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhoneiPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone iPhone :mad::mad:

I think the company will split in two, with iPhone/iPod/gadgets etc one half, and Mac Computers the other. The computer side will whither away and die within 10 years.

[zombitronic]

I think the company will split in two, with iPhone/iPod/gadgets etc one half, and Mac Computers the other. The computer side will whither away and die within 10 years.

It's possible that we will witness a scenario similar to this, but I wouldn't count on the Mac side whitering away or dying.

Consider this. The gadget side of the company may have borrowed some Mac concepts, but these gadgets have built themselves up as their own division of Apple more than they've been pulled or split away from another division. This makes both divisions very independent but also both very strong.

Instead of one of the sides dying away, I think we'll see them merge. As portables become faster and more desktop-like, these devices will become more attractive to those craving tower power. Since speed and power improvements are inevitable, the biggest obstacle I see is the interface. Laptops seem to be the bridge between gadget and workstation for now, and the evolution of all these devices will lead to ultimate convergence.

[Watabou]

3G iPhone
Mac Mini
OS X 10.6 Preview are my predictions.

[BlakTornado]

Here's a totally shocking prediction:

Some Mac developers meet up, watch some Apple developers on a stage talking about how to utilize certain things in Leopard and Cocoa Touch. They get given a demonstration of these features, and then go off and use them to make sweet sweet applications for our benefit because developers are nice like that.