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springframework
Apr 8, 2008, 12:38 PM
Since the IPhone is a phone it obviously has a very high quality microphone in it.

wouldn't it make more sense to click on a textinput field, say the input you want and have it appear in the text field????

the only thing this wouldn't work for is password, but im sure there is another way to do password input. maybe a finger print scanner would work in some cases.


I had this ability to talk to my computer and have it type what I said 10 YEARS AGO ... The IPhone is joke for not having this feature. If the IPhone really wants to be a useful tool it has to have this.


Is there anyway to interact with the microphone?



Killyp
Apr 8, 2008, 12:39 PM
So wait.. you mean, speech recognition?

Thanks for the laugh :p

Sbrocket
Apr 8, 2008, 12:49 PM
Heh, he wants built-in speech recognition as a text input interface.

:rolleyes::D

Sayer
Apr 8, 2008, 03:31 PM
So what happens while you are in a public place? My iphone already gets confused when I have speakerphone on and am doing voice-based automated menu systems.

What about non-english speakers? The iPhone should support every spoken language perfectly?

How many times do I have to say it: IPhone is NOT a desktop or laptop computer.

Expecting it to do everything a full-fledged computer does is a stupid place to start with design decisions for future software.

Sayer
Apr 8, 2008, 03:31 PM
Is there anyway to interact with the microphone?

Try speaking into it.

jeremy.king
Apr 8, 2008, 04:03 PM
IPhone is NOT a desktop or laptop computer.


Yet. :)

springframework
Apr 8, 2008, 04:04 PM
yes, it should handle all official languages of all countries iphone services are available. im not sure what countries have it. this would also make it impossible to use the iphone in countries its not available in, unless u spoke a foreign language.


and it should learn your voice.

i had voice recognition back on WINDOWS 95, and it worked 100% perfect.


there are handicap tools for purchasing train tickets, city directions, ... etc in tokyo that get rid of background noise when using voice recognition, if the iphone learns what you sound like this would be very simple to get rid of background noise.

UNiversities have been dedicated to voice recognition for decades.

also the text input could allow multiple choices to what you said if it was unclear, with a finger touch to choose the appropriate choice. and spell out option.


i don't know why the people that responded to me are so small minded. I was just wondering if anyone has started working on such a project or if apple had already developed it.

to me, the PSP is more useful then the iphone.

lee1210
Apr 8, 2008, 04:39 PM
I am going to try my best to be even-handed here.


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i had voice recognition back on WINDOWS 95, and it worked 100% perfect.


That is not true. I don't believe the latest version of Dragon NaturallySpeaking works 100% perfect, much less whatever the latest version was that supported windows 95. If you want to present a persuasive argument, hyperbole is not the way to do it. I mention one example that I know of, as I'm sure if there was a product that was 10x better than this one, it would receive more publicity.


there are handicap tools for purchasing train tickets, city directions, ... etc in tokyo that get rid of background noise when using voice recognition, if the iphone learns what you sound like this would be very simple to get rid of background noise.


Are these tools carried in the palm of the hand? Do they use special hardware to do speech recognition, or is this all done in software? If in software, are they using a ~475Mhz ARM to do it? Do they run on batteries or do they have a dedicated power source?


UNiversities have been dedicated to voice recognition for decades.


And they're still at it. I guess it's pretty hard, and not "100% perfect" yet, even on desktop PCs.


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i don't know why the people that responded to me are so small minded. I was just wondering if anyone has started working on such a project or if apple had already developed it.


I think the responses are to your attitude towards the subject, not the suggestion itself. It would be great if there was a fully functional voice interface for the iPhone, but it's likely not feasible. Your treatment of the subject was as if every modern device is voice-controlled, except the iPhone.

I find the iPhone an extremely useful tool without this feature. That may not be the case for you, but I'm afraid you will have a long wait for a device that does what you would like.

With all of that said:
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/codinghowtos/AudioAndVideo/index.html#AUDIO_RECORDING-RECORD_AUDIO_FROM_THE_BUILT_IN_MICROPHONE
There is information on obtaining audio from the microphone through the SDK on that page.


to me, the PSP is more useful then the iphone.


To my understanding voice recognition on the PSP requires an add-on accessory and works for one game. I may also be behind on my news, but as I understand it the PSP SDK is pricey and I don't know what sort of things Sony will sign to run on the device. Homebrew is a different story, but I would consider it fringe. If it is more useful to you than the iPhone, it is much cheaper and you should use what suits you best.

-Lee

Duke Leto
Apr 9, 2008, 06:41 AM
This is the voice-to-text recognition of today.. in Vista.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KyLqUf4cdwc

Doesn't it work perfectly?

(Im not sure if the problem is in Microsoft or that voice recognition is difficult.)

cmaier
Apr 9, 2008, 08:49 AM
I like how speech recognition works well, on a cellphone, but doesn't work with passwords.

Because it's easier to understand the word "fluffernutter" than to understand "Em-eye-see-kay-ee-why-em-oh-you-ess-ee."

:-)