First REAL Information about 3G iPhone!

[spinstorm]

This very website is reporting the first good reliable leaks (from http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36865/145/) as regards the new iPhone but to be honest they are disapointing if you ask me...

TO be announced on June 9 at WWDC (as expected)

8GB and 16GB Sizes - outside possibility of 32GB.

HSDPA 3.5G Connectivity

2.5 mm slimmer than current model

Revised casing to make the phone less "plasticky"

So the phone is going to be slightly thinner with an all in one back panel it seems (removing the plastic bottom section) with the same memory sizes but a faster data connection.

We have the possibilty of a front camera for video chat and maybe a 32GB model - but I think that right now that will be too much of a jump for Apple to make specially considering the leak says that Apple have decided to have twice the memory on the iPod Touch at every iPhone price point. That would mean a 64GB iPod Touch which I can't see happening at that price right now!

No sign of an improved camera - not even to 3.2MP.

No sign of GPS either.

Of course we could discover there will be more on the phone as we get closer but I have a feeling Apple will give us just enough to
make it better and make us want it but NOT enough to make it the most highly featured phone out there!

And it will be using the same 2.0 iPhone software as the original iPhone will get.

So its thinner, faster and has an all in one back!

Better than right now but not exactly the jump I think we all hoped for.

Of course I will still buy one! But I do feel disapointed!

There is also a SLIM possibilty of the iPhone being unlocked and sold through 3rd part resellers as appears will be happening in Austrailia (http://forums.mactalk.com.au/20/47520-australian-iphone-release-info-given-resellers-apple-australia.html) But I can't see that happening in Europe (or the US) with the exclusive carrier deals only a few months old!

What does everyone else think?

[guruji]

I think OLED can change all that, there have been enough proven projects in OLED for a mature product. (http://www.cdtltd.co.uk/press/current_press_releases/602.asp)

and with that power and space saving screen, they can put more into the phone, and use that energy elsewhere...

so, with OLED, it will be a BIG LEAP.
3.5G, bigger battery, stereo spks, wifi/b/g/n and A2DP.
and thinner!!!!

[guruji]

from the above link:

"The iPhone itself will come with a slightly thinner body, which sheds about 2.5 mm when compared to the original iPhone."


does that mean smaller screen size????

[FarSeide]

from the above link:

"The iPhone itself will come with a slightly thinner body, which sheds about 2.5 mm when compared to the original iPhone."


does that mean smaller screen size????


no screen size changes.. just the thickness of the phone will be slightly thinner.

[IndyJonez]

So is it safe to say we are giving up on all other features? How reliable a resource is this? I mean, IS THAT IT? JUST LIKE THAT? C'mon, have a little faith people!:D

[Surely]

It ain't REAL until it's REAL.

I can't wait until June, so these annoying rumors will stop...... at least for a few months. And then the iPhone 3.0 rumors begin.

[guruji]

I most upset about price @!@%$#$^%$ :mad: :(

[David G.]

No, I have the first real information on the second generation iPhone! It will have a screen, a battery, and you will be able to make/receive calls and browse the web too.:D:rolleyes:

In review...
TRUST NO ONE EXCEPT STEVE JOBS ON A STAGE.

[SFStateStudent]

They're going to have to pry my 8GB from my cold, cold hands! Is "fakeism" a word? :eek:

[Diode]

No GPS = no buy for me.

I've got access to plenty of wifi networks that 3G alone won't make me upgrade.

[john316]

I sincerely doubt they are planning to leave the camera the same

[Hudzilla]

TBH I think all the hype over a 3G phone has been blown far out of all proportion, and people are expecting 'the moon on a stick' if you like.

It will be more than the current model costs, and nothing much more than a simple wi-fi connection cant do.

I'll be sticking with the current model for the forseeable future i think.

[vitasenza]

While I find all these 3g iPhone threads rather amusing, this is more or less just another thread with the same info. Granted it's combined the info into a single thread.
I know rumors are fun and hey this is MacRumors.com, but sometimes it does get rediculous.

Personally depending on price and features I may purchase one of the new iPhones, only downside is no 3g in Iowa, anywhere. Since I bought a 4 gig iphone on iDay (which holds more music than I have a chance to listen to) I'll be looking for an upgrade in memory as the new apps come in June, because I'm sure some that I will actually want will take up a good chunk of space.
So pending the build of a 3g tower in my area, I'll probably just go for a 16 gig iPhone 1.

[spinstorm]

I would not tell anyone to wait for an iPhone.

I have two current versions now - the fact is it may be announced at WWDC but it doesn't mean it will be available right away!

Besides if you buy one now you can always sell it on eBay and get a 3G model when it comes out.

I doubt the screen with be OLED. This is a new expensive technology and there is no way it would go on the iPhone at the same price as it is now. So forget it.

Maybe the camera will be higher resolution - but I don't see Apple making a big deal about the camera anyway - its almost as if it doesn't exist on Apple's website.

If you consider that along with the fact that other phone manufacturers are STILL making 2MP cameras on phones I would not be surprised if it stays at 2MP.

But your right its all rumour and speculation right now so we will see!

[chrisparr]

All I know is that my Vodafone contract is up in July, which is nice timing if the rumored release dates are true.

The current iPhone is very US centric in its offering. Given the reception in Europe I would expect the next offering to be aligned further towards what is standard on phones in Europe. MMS is used to death over here (even though it costs loads), so I'm guessing (not hoping BTW), that we'll see that along with video recording. AND a real bluetooth stack!

If Apple really does want to compete with Nokia et. al. they may also improve the camera and add a flash, as well as GPS etc...

It all depends on what they want to do. At the end of the day it's about business and making money.

Chris

PS it would be nice if they moved away from their exclusive deal with 02, but I've no idea on the length of said agreement (does anyone????).

[Hudzilla]

Pretty much everything you've said there is coming through the SDK.

[Oskee2001]

i don't think what we've heard so far necessarily means no GPS or A2DP. Let's just wait for an actual Apple release.

By the way, what's the big deal about GPS??

[PowerFullMac]

If there is no cool new stuff in the new iPhone then I will ether get a Nokia "Tube" or a Android phone... I am not desprate to buy something just because Apple made it, TBH I dont think they are that good at phones, and I hope that this next phone includes basic stuff the current iPhone dosent have, such as MMS, video capture, Bluetooth that acctually does something etc, of not then like I said I will get one of the alternative phones avalable.

[MikeDTyke]

No, I have the first real information on the second generation iPhone! It will have a screen, a battery, and you will be able to make/receive calls and browse the web too.:D:rolleyes:

In review...
TRUST NO ONE EXCEPT STEVE JOBS ON A STAGE.

Er, i wouldn't trust Steve Jobs on a stage. That balls out liar has claimed there was no point to having video on an iPod, no need for a colour iPod and that no one wanted an FM radio in their ipod. He then turned around and offered all 3 (exception the FM radio is an optional extenal dongle).

The reality distortion field is true, stare into his eyes for long enough and you'll believe anything he says. :D

M.

[sjo]

There is also a SLIM possibilty of the iPhone being unlocked and sold through 3rd part resellers as appears will be happening in Austrailia (http://forums.mactalk.com.au/20/47520-australian-iphone-release-info-given-resellers-apple-australia.html) But I can't see that happening in Europe (or the US) with the exclusive carrier deals only a few months old!

What does everyone else think?

the exclusive carrier thing hasn't really worked well for apple in europe. 3g will allow apple to make two models: one for us frequencies and another for rest of the world. if the information that the new phone is going to be slimmer, they probably have to do that anyway.

further, i think that at least a director of o2 has commented that their exclusivity deal doesn't include iphone versions beyond the current edge offering.

[PowerFullMac]

The carirer exclusive deals were for the current iPhone, not for any new iPhones that may be released by Apple.

I hope they do do this, it will make things much easier but if not then people will just hack and unlock them anyway.

[Zwhaler]

I most upset about price @!@%$#$^%$ :mad: :(

Why? If you want an iPhone, pay up. If you cant afford it, you cant afford it :rolleyes:

[emotion]

Er, i wouldn't trust Steve Jobs on a stage. That balls out liar has claimed...

He's not a liar. He's a salesman. I know the difference is subtle but there is a difference.

[emotion]

By the way, what's the big deal about GPS??

It's something that people think they need. In reality most people don't.

However, it will provide people like Google a nice way to market things to people based on where you are. This is a whole new wave of location based services that could make someone a lot of money (likely Google). For that reason I see it being included more and more on things like the iPhone.

[sweetice2007]

its been on our fones in the uk for a long while now

[Dagless]

Well, I need GPS. I'm either going to buy an iPhone with GPS or an iPhone without GPS and a TomTom. I'd rather not carry 2 devices around but if needs must. I'm not the majority of the market by any means but I'd still love a location system that works instead than the current iPhones method.

Personally I don't care much for the thickness. I love the feel of the iPhone in my hands over an iPod Touch. Make it a bit lighter by all means.

[PowerFullMac]

Well, I need GPS. I'm either going to buy an iPhone with GPS or an iPhone without GPS and a TomTom. I'd rather not carry 2 devices around but if needs must. I'm not the majority of the market by any means but I'd still love a location system that works instead than the current iPhones method.

Personally I don't care much for the thickness. I love the feel of the iPhone in my hands over an iPod Touch. Make it a bit lighter by all means.

Same, I have a iPod Touch but whenever I hold a iPhone I like the feel of it much better!!!

[brinycbri]

No GPS = no buy for me.

I've got access to plenty of wifi networks that 3G alone won't make me upgrade.

I hope they dont have GPS. All i need is a bulkier battery draining form of the iphone. A dongle i can understand, but not built in. Those Nokia's with GPS are huge!

[QuarterSwede]

No GPS = no buy for me..
I don't understand this whole GPS in a phone fascinations either. I've got a Garmin Streetpilot and I use if only when driving. Sure they can be useful off road (handhelds) but you don't use them as much as you think you would. I'd rather keep it out of the phone to save the battery (Garmin's much larger battery only lasts 4 hours) and size. People want this thing to do everything for them including wipe their butts!

[emotion]

I hope they dont have GPS. All i need is a bulkier battery draining form of the iphone. A dongle i can understand, but not built in. Those Nokia's with GPS are huge!

GPS is included in the functionality of the Broadcom chip (Gold3, aGPS). No bulk is incurred due to its addition.

The Nokias are big due to battery/design/other issues.

[impact_blue]

I most upset about price @!@%$#$^%$ :mad: :(

HAHA! I laugh because you actually think they'd drop the price even more!! :rolleyes:

[extraextra]

I'm a little upset by the price too, 8GB of memory has been around for awhile and I don't think the price is justified anymore... but I'd still pay. Damn you Apple!

[impact_blue]

I don't understand this whole GPS in a phone fascinations either. I've got a Garmin Streetpilot and I use if only when driving. Sure they can be useful off road (handhelds) but you don't use them as much as you think you would. I'd rather keep it out of the phone to save the battery (Garmin's much larger battery only lasts 4 hours) and size. People want this thing to do everything for them including wipe their butts!

For us people without GPS it eliminates the hassle of buying one.. For one thing I really doubt your Garmin gives live traffic updates or sigalerts, something GPS on an iphone could provide... Combine GPS with the SDK and im sure people will come up with some crazy apps.

People want everything on one device. Jobs is more concern of making the iphone a companion tool rather than a typical phone.

[carfac]

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[gloss]

For one thing I really doubt your Garmin gives live traffic updates or sigalerts, something GPS on an iphone could provide...

Why would you doubt this? Plenty of stand-alone GPS units offer this.

[scaredpoet]

For one thing I really doubt your Garmin gives live traffic updates or sigalerts

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134&pID=385

"The StreetPilot c550 adds plenty of options to the easy-to-use, preloaded c510 and c530, including hands-free calling, included traffic alerts and an MP3 playe"

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=213&pID=8580

"Receive door-to-door directions while staying on top of weather, traffic and localized information with the StreetPilot c580. Similar to the c550, StreetPilot c580 comes with hands-free calling, preloaded maps and an MP3 player, then takes it up a notch by adding dynamic content from MSN® Direct."

Seems Garmin has the traffic thing down just fine.

[gauchogolfer]

What kind of 'plasticky' feel are they referring to? I think the iPhone feels great.

[wildcardd]

What kind of 'plasticky' feel are they referring to? I think the iPhone feels great.

Perhaps the plastic piece on the bottom back of the iphone where the antenna is?

[David G.]

Er, i wouldn't trust Steve Jobs on a stage. That balls out liar has claimed there was no point to having video on an iPod, no need for a colour iPod and that no one wanted an FM radio in their ipod. He then turned around and offered all 3 (exception the FM radio is an optional extenal dongle).

The reality distortion field is true, stare into his eyes for long enough and you'll believe anything he says. :D

M.

Where did he say those things though? Interviews, yes. In front of an audience on a stage, no. While there have been exceptions they mostly have only been because the Apple bigwigs have changed their minds about something (not lying). An example would be 64 bit Carbon Apps, hence the reason no 64 bit Photoshop CS4. :(

[JadawinUK]

Where did he say those things though? Interviews, yes. In front of an audience on a stage, no.

So what? He said those things, period. It doesn't matter where he said it, it was a public statement nontheless.