vista slips up again.....

[grooveattack]

hahahaha oh dear, my house mate just walked in, he is running the latest vista, and complains that the last update for windows vista killed his mouse cursor. he cant see it and he cant use it and he has tried 5 different mouses as well. hahahaha oh dear Microsoft, he rang up their help line and they cant help ( says they are 'working on it' ) they also said on the phone this is an isolated problem but after some digging he found that many vista user's are losing there mice! glad i got outta that mess before vista came out! ( sorry if this turns into a vista bashing session! )

[EvanLugh]

might want to get it moved to community discussion. nontheless still funny, did you tell him / her to get a mac? :cool:

[grooveattack]

might want to get it moved to community discussion. nontheless still funny, did you tell him / her to get a mac? :cool:

i had a huge smile on my face and proclaimed that my apple mac is running fine! lol

[Eluzion]

Wow, Vista sucks. *rolls eyes*

[scaredpoet]

Was this Service pack 1 that caused this?

I'm SO glad I've switched. I still have my Vista PC for giggles, but it's rarely used. Just updated it on Friday, but interestingly, SP1 hasn't been offered as an update for it yet, even though it's supposedly out *shrug*.

Oh well. :)

[chrono1081]

I actually love Vista now....because its the reason I own a Mac!

I too got fed up with Vista (Im a windows tech mind you and can fix all the goofy stuff usually). One day I was transferring files from one external to another and it said 12 hours! The XP machine I usually did this on only ever took 2 hours....well using the xp machine wasnt an option so I let vista do the transfer. 90% of the way through the transfer failed and I flipped out, it was the last straw in a long list of problems and I held up my laptop and said "Who wants it!? $500!" a guy I work with snapped it up and I went online that moment and ordered a mac and couldnt be happier! (Now everyone in the dept just loves to bash my mac because they for some odd reason hate it even though none have ever used one.)

[scaredpoet]

(Now everyone in the dept just loves to bash my mac because they for some odd reason hate it even though none have ever used one.)

I had people where I worked doing the same when I first got my MBP. $79 fixed that problem: I bought parallels, and every time someone came to gawk, I ran Windows in its own Window. Instant **** (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shut_up).

A year later, and I've since uninstalled Parallels and Windows on my Mac. And, the office just finished buying several iMacs, Mac Pros, BlackBooks, and an Xserve. :)

Part of what I do also involves fixing Windows-related problems. And it does raise eyebrows among the people I help that I'm carrying around a Mac. :)

[steveza]

Part of what I do also involves fixing Windows-related problems. And it does raise eyebrows among the people I help that I'm carrying around a Mac. :)I am a consultant and my business is about 90% Windows based - you always get a funny look when you take out a Mac and start managing Windows servers with it :).

[Nick T.]

Now everyone in the dept just loves to bash my mac because they for some odd reason hate it even though none have ever used one.chrono1081 - - Please consider this; possible your coworkers don't hate your Mac, they actually hate the insanity that Macs seem to create is some users.

I am a consultant and my business is about 90% Windows based - you always get a funny look when you take out a Mac and start managing Windows servers with it :).Imagine the reaction that you would get if you walked into a Mac office with a Dell laptop to manage their machines! It would sound like a bunch of over-caffeinated 14-year olds reviling the Devil!

[Santa Rosa]

Haven't updated to SP1 yet although it is offering me it, aww man cant wait to loose my mouse cursor lol!! Only microsoft, only microsoft....

PS he better start getting ****** hot on his keyboard short cuts as I reckon it will be a good while before they get a "fix" :)

[grooveattack]

PS he better start getting ****** hot on his keyboard short cuts as I reckon it will be a good while before they get a "fix" :)

funny you say that, he has been learning every shortcut in the book to try a keyboard only computer. its quite funny to watch. He has just had to roll bk to the very first install of vista and his mouse is working, awwww well done vista.

[EvanLugh]

funny you say that, he has been learning every shortcut in the book to try a keyboard only computer. its quite funny to watch. He has just had to roll bk to the very first install of vista and his mouse is working, awwww well done vista.

If he's not-the-type-of-friend-to-kill you could always do some old-school tricks and make him get a mac. :D

[grooveattack]

If he's not-the-type-of-friend-to-kill you could always do some old-school tricks and make him get a mac. :D

hahah i have already made him gaze in amazement at time machine. Tonight i think i will work on spaces and the no virus bit. hahaha i am so evil.

[EvanLugh]

hahah i have already made him gaze in amazement at time machine. Tonight i think i will work on spaces and the no virus bit. hahaha i am so evil.

Download some PC software which has a virus. Rename it to "notTHATpicture.jpg.exe" Say, " Mate, I'm just sending you this funny picture"..

"Wowie, that was a close one! It has the extension.exe - it's a virus. Lucky my mac picked it up, or you'd be toast. Now get me some drink btch.

[Nick T.]

This entire thread exemplifies why some Mac users are referred to as fanbois.

Y'all don't seem to realize how much damage you're doing to the Apple community. How would you feel if your Macintosh crashed and your friends took great pleasure in laughing at you and your computer?

Please cease and desist your childish behavior toward Windows users.

[clevin]

Please cease and desist your childish behavior toward Windows users.

yes, 100% agree, there is no reason to be happy just because your friend's pc crashed...It does not help anything.

and OP, you need to realize, you don't even get a chance to change your cursor in OSX.

[Sky Blue]

I'm sure 10.5.3 will bring a whole host a trouble for some users.

[Santa Rosa]

This entire thread exemplifies why some Mac users are referred to as fanbois.

Y'all don't seem to realize how much damage you're doing to the Apple community. How would you feel if your Macintosh crashed and your friends took great pleasure in laughing at you and your computer?

Please cease and desist your childish behavior toward Windows users.

Please cease and desist your sense of humor, only having a laugh with him. I bet he finds it well funny. People like you make the world a very miserable place. A bit of banter between the Windees and the OSX group is great fun, sometimes gets a bit serious but you can only take this as funny.

[yellow]

How would you feel if your Macintosh crashed and your friends took great pleasure in laughing at you and your computer?

Doesn't everyone do this on both sides of the fence?

[heatmiser]

yes, 100% agree, there is no reason to be happy just because your friend's pc crashed...It does not help anything.

and OP, you need to realize, you don't even get a chance to change your cursor in OSX.

agreed. you guys don't seem to understand how off-putting this comes off in real life.

[EvanLugh]

agreed. you guys don't seem to understand how off-putting this comes off in real life.

There's no need to cry about it, jeez. We're having a laugh withthe OP and someone has a pain in their ass. I myself couldn't live without Windows or Mac - Mac just happens to be the better choice for me of the two. You can't change an opinion.
:rolleyes:

[Nick T.]

There's no need to cry about it, jeez. We're having a laugh with the OP and someone has a pain in their ass. I myself couldn't live without Windows or Mac - Mac just happens to be the better choice for me of the two. You can't change an opinion.
:rolleyes:Are you saying that it's acceptable for you to laugh at the misfortune of other because some one else did it first?

I'll bet your Mom is really proud of you!

[Sesshi]

Please cease and desist your childish behavior toward Windows users.

They can't help it. They're Mac users.

This problem seems to be - once again, when will these clowns actually get their heads around Vista - NVidia. Isn't it weird? When a printer or display driver has a problem with Leopard, it's the manufacturer's fault because it can't be Apples unless the evidence is overwhelming. When a printer or display adapter has a problem with Vista, it's Microsoft's fault.

It's no wonder that so many people are moving to Mac - given the utterly dumb comments I read on the blogosphere for starters, it really is the platform they are more suited to.

[yellow]

When a printer or display adapter has a problem with Vista, it's Microsoft's fault.

Well, this is based in a lack of understanding about how the whole thing works.

Partly, it IS Microsoft's fault. Why?

Vista is their de facto OS now. How exactly can they (MS) not strong arm developers into doing a better job at supporting their hardware/software on the Vista platform? Throw money at them. Throw incentives at them. Do something. Vista has been out for 17 months, and yet.. it's still hard to find drivers for some hardware.

But partly, it is the developer's fault.

Microsoft has made it abundantly clear that Vista is it. And yet, a lot of developers seem to have their panties in a twist because Vista is different enough to make it a pain in the butt to fix some drivers/software. As if Windows XP will last forever.

Personally, I have had issues with Vista. But my problems are all hardware related. Lack of decent drivers the function well for Vista. And issues with Vista SP1. I had to install it in Safe Mode on my main rig. But what the OP saw with his buddy? I'd call it an aberration. Definitely not the norm.

[ZenErik]

I'm sure 10.5.3 will bring a whole host a trouble for some users.

10.5.2 made MainStage suck. It was previously very stable, and now it's unusable. Luckily, I also have Reason 4...

[Raid]

While it's all good to laugh at a friends misfortune (to a point), the OP would probably better serve the Mac community if he loaned his Mac to his friend... maybe he'd like it enough to switch!

Remember kids when these situations arise, ask yourself "What would Steve Jobs do?" :D

[applebum]

This entire thread exemplifies why some Mac users are referred to as fanbois.

Y'all don't seem to realize how much damage you're doing to the Apple community. How would you feel if your Macintosh crashed and your friends took great pleasure in laughing at you and your computer?

Please cease and desist your childish behavior toward Windows users.

Are you saying that it's acceptable for you to laugh at the misfortune of other because some one else did it first?

I'll bet your Mom is really proud of you!

They can't help it. They're Mac users.

This problem seems to be - once again, when will these clowns actually get their heads around Vista - NVidia. Isn't it weird? When a printer or display driver has a problem with Leopard, it's the manufacturer's fault because it can't be Apples unless the evidence is overwhelming. When a printer or display adapter has a problem with Vista, it's Microsoft's fault.

It's no wonder that so many people are moving to Mac - given the utterly dumb comments I read on the blogosphere for starters, it really is the platform they are more suited to.

See, we are on a Mac forum. 90% of us are on here because we believe our OS to be superior to the OS not to be named. We all know someone that uses that other OS, and we have all been told at some point how silly we must be for using our OS. So we can come here and laugh harmlessly with other like-minded users about the other OS's problems. We truly would never wish any harm to any computer user, it is just humorous sometimes. It is kinda like watching America's Funniest Home Videos....no guy really takes pleasure in seeing another guy get his balls smashed by his 3 year old son swinging a bat.....but damn if it isn't funny when it happens.

[dalvin200]

mouses? haha..
maybe you slipped up on your grammar ;)

[ZenErik]

mouses? haha..
maybe you slipped up on your grammar ;)

Meece!!!

[Markleshark]

Seriously for a second, is there a fix for this? The GFs Laptop is having this issue.

[clevin]

does this happen after exiting from a game?

[OllyW]

Seriously for a second, is there a fix for this? The GFs Laptop is having this issue.

Try this. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-XP-Professional-Service-Pack/dp/B00061H58I/ref=pd_sbs_sw_h__title_3)

[Markleshark]

does this happen after exiting from a game?

She gets it as soon as the computer starts up. Neither the keyboard or mouse will work, neither will any external ones. Can't get passed the login screen.

Try this. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-XP-Professional-Service-Pack/dp/B00061H58I/ref=pd_sbs_sw_h__title_3)

:rolleyes: Helpful. Thanks.

[clevin]

lol, that early.

I would try safe mode, see if problem persist first.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

once in there,
check hardware manager to make sure everything is ok,
remove any suspicious options from start->run->msconfig->booting options
remove any suspicious app installed recently.

EDIT. also there is an system restoration (NOT restore to factory settings!), never really found it useful, but you can try to pick a earlier date and see if that works, it will NOT erase any personal data, so don't worry too much.

[jason999]

hahahaha oh dear, my house mate just walked in, he is running the latest vista, and complains that the last update for windows vista killed his mouse cursor. he cant see it and he cant use it and he has tried 5 different mouses as well. hahahaha oh dear Microsoft, he rang up their help line and they cant help ( says they are 'working on it' ) they also said on the phone this is an isolated problem but after some digging he found that many vista user's are losing there mice! glad i got outta that mess before vista came out! ( sorry if this turns into a vista bashing session! )

Vista is unstable and lacks driver support.

Try sp1 when it comes out on Vista or do what most are doing going back to the ever reliable xp pro with sp2.

[notjustjay]

To be fair, I've had this happen to my PowerBook numerous times, mostly when awakening from sleep or messing with video modes (like when setting up on a projector). You have no idea how embarrassing or annoying it is when your cursor is no longer visible, forcing either a restart or login/out again. And trust me, when my Mac misbehaves in a public setting, you can bet that I hear about it from PC users.

I participate on another forum, and I know one guy who takes it upon himself to say things like "Well, that's why I have a Mac, so I never have to deal with that problem" in response to any questions about computer issues, drivers, software, etc. (And this isn't some kid, he's a grown man, married, kids...) You can predict exactly how the rest of the thread goes. Not productive to our "cause" at all.

I don't get myself involved in those conversations, though I may permit myself to smile at people frustrated by Windows issues because I've been there too. That's why I switched back in 2003.

[yellow]

Try sp1 when it comes out on Vista

It's out and available for download.

[Markleshark]

lol, that early.

I would try safe mode, see if problem persist first.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm

once in there,
check hardware manager to make sure everything is ok,
remove any suspicious options from start->run->msconfig->booting options
remove any suspicious app installed recently.

EDIT. also there is an system restoration (NOT restore to factory settings!), never really found it useful, but you can try to pick a earlier date and see if that works, it will NOT erase any personal data, so don't worry too much.

They don't work in Safe Mode either. Work fine until you get to Windows then nothing, might have to try the System Restore.

[mc3s]

They don't work in Safe Mode either. Work fine until you get to Windows then nothing, might have to try the System Restore.

Have you tried booting with them unplugged and then connecting them?

edit}the externals anyway :P

[killerrobot]

I'm sure 10.5.3 will bring a whole host a trouble for some users.

I'm still waiting for it to fix a whole host of troubles.:eek:

Have you tried booting with them unplugged and then connecting them?

Something as simple as that might fix it. Has he looked (did you look) into the system manager or whatever its called now for what it has installed for Mice (USB).
There might just be a new driver that needs to be installed as well.

[clevin]

They don't work in Safe Mode either. Work fine until you get to Windows then nothing, might have to try the System Restore.

ok, work fine before windows welcome screen, that probably means the driver of touchpad, mice etc is broken or something there.

My suggestion

1. try plug different mice if you have more than one, see if it works

2. system restoration I mentioned is a windows function, if you can't control anything with keyboard/mice (build-in as well as external), I don't see how that can work

3. if the laptop is quite new (<2 yo), most pc has those "one-key restoration" method that extract the OS image from a hidden partition to recover everything. however, this will erase all personal data.

4. if possible, download knoppix linux *.iso and burn to a cd, boot the laptop with it, this would allow you to go into the computer and backup all import data to some external HDD. before (in case you want to) messing with restore/re-installation of OS.

[surferfromuk]

I actually love Vista now....because its the reason I own a Mac!

I too got fed up with Vista (Im a windows tech mind you and can fix all the goofy stuff usually). One day I was transferring files from one external to another and it said 12 hours! The XP machine I usually did this on only ever took 2 hours....well using the xp machine wasnt an option so I let vista do the transfer. 90% of the way through the transfer failed and I flipped out, it was the last straw in a long list of problems and I held up my laptop and said "Who wants it!? $500!" a guy I work with snapped it up and I went online that moment and ordered a mac and couldnt be happier! (Now everyone in the dept just loves to bash my mac because they for some odd reason hate it even though none have ever used one.)

$500 Who wants it - class act man, your a class act..Love it...

[yeroen]

I actually love Vista now....because its the reason I own a Mac!

I too got fed up with Vista (Im a windows tech mind you and can fix all the goofy stuff usually). One day I was transferring files from one external to another and it said 12 hours! The XP machine I usually did this on only ever took 2 hours....well using the xp machine wasnt an option so I let vista do the transfer. 90% of the way through the transfer failed and I flipped out, it was the last straw in a long list of problems and I held up my laptop and said "Who wants it!? $500!" a guy I work with snapped it up and I went online that moment and ordered a mac and couldnt be happier! (Now everyone in the dept just loves to bash my mac because they for some odd reason hate it even though none have ever used one.)


The reason it took so long to transfer, I'll bet a dollar if a dime, is that Vista was checking every byte to see if you're transferring 'protected content'.