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sk8mash
Apr 15, 2008, 12:24 PM
I have a jailbroken iPod Touch, and seeing the £100 price cut on the 8gb iphone, im tempted to buy in and get one, however I dont want to be on O2 as my current provider is fine :) is the iPhone jailbreak/unlock process as simple as the ipod touch one, and is it different in any way?

Thanks



Top-Slacker
Apr 15, 2008, 04:52 PM
Wondering exactly the same thing. Thing I wanna know is if there's a problem doing it right out the box, before activating it as that's what I'm most concerned about.

NeoMayhem
Apr 15, 2008, 05:05 PM
It is very easy, and can be done in less then 5 minutes. I think it takes longer to activate with an official carrier then it does to hack right now.

You can use Pwnage or iLiberty or ziphone and have it activated and unlocked by just clicking a few buttons.

iLiberty is probably the easiest and safest option if you dont know what you are doing.

MacChinoNyc
Apr 15, 2008, 05:09 PM
It is very easy, and can be done in less then 5 minutes. I think it takes longer to activate with an official carrier then it does to hack right now.

You can use Pwnage or iLiberty or ziphone and have it activated and unlocked by just clicking a few buttons.

iLiberty is probably the easiest and safest option if you dont know what you are doing.

But which one of these if fully reversible to original state? I have windows, and was really looking forward to winpwn but doesnt seem it'll be released yet. I have a brand new 16gb iphone staring at me and I'm not sure where to start and believe me I'm eager. I'd like to be able to reverse anything I do just in case. Bare with me, brand new to Apple. :apple:

sk8mash
Apr 15, 2008, 05:14 PM
But which one of these if fully reversible to original state? I have windows, and was really looking forward to winpwn but doesnt seem it'll be released yet. I have a brand new 16gb iphone staring at me and I'm not sure where to start and believe me I'm eager. I'd like to be able to reverse anything I do just in case. Bare with me, brand new to Apple. :apple:

Any method should be fully reversible just by clikcing restore in iTunes.

I checked out some videos of the ziphone unlock on youtube, and it looks way easier than it was to jailbreak my touch. Does the ziphone jailbreak the iPhone aswell?

Thanks again.

MacChinoNyc
Apr 15, 2008, 05:16 PM
Any method should be fully reversible just by clikcing restore in iTunes.

I checked out some videos of the ziphone unlock on youtube, and it looks way easier than it was to jailbreak my touch. Does the ziphone jailbreak the iPhone aswell?

Thanks again.

I've been told to totally stay away from ziphone as it messes up something permanently.

nomar383
Apr 15, 2008, 05:18 PM
Personally I used ZiPhone and I have unlocked several iPhones with it. Works very well. However, if you want to get REALLY technical it irreversible downgrades the bootloader to a modified 3.9. This is mostly meaningless, but if you are super paranoid, then try iLiberty. In any case, Pwnage is actually the best method around if you have a mac handy.

b777av8r
Apr 15, 2008, 06:37 PM
So easy to do. I had an iPhone on V 1.1.2, I RESET my phone to 1.1.4 Quit iTunes completely, then activated ZiPhone. The interface is self explanitory.

SINGLE CLICK the desired process that you want...I made the mistake of double clicking and got an error message. The software 'finds' the iPhone and after a few seconds, the screen begins to show the update process. It takes a few moments for the files to load...and look very carefully at the iPhone screen to see what the process is showing. The print is very small...but...after about 45 seconds, you will see the files load and at the finish...the phone restarts...and Voila! An unlocked, jailbroken phone. Worked like a charm!

spinstorm
Apr 15, 2008, 08:10 PM
SIGH

How many times do I have to tell you guys the same thing!

ZiPhone is NOT REVERSIBLE unless you use pwnage to reverse it!

iLiberty/iPlus is reversible but you may as well use pwnage.

furthermore ZiPhone is dangerous as it unlocks and jailbreaks at the same time which if it goes wrong will break your phone.

My advice if you can't handle pwnage is use iLiberty+ as its the safest method.

Below is a iLiberty+ tutorial:

http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_iliberty_windows.html

For Pwnage read my FAQ! Then you can follow its steps or use the same tutorial site:

http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_pwnage_mac.html

Pwnage right now is Mac ONLY - a windows version WILL be released soon...

nomar383
Apr 15, 2008, 08:28 PM
SIGH

How many times do I have to tell you guys the same thing!

ZiPhone is NOT REVERSIBLE unless you use pwnage to reverse it!

iLiberty/iPlus is reversible but you may as well use pwnage.

furthermore ZiPhone is dangerous as it unlocks and jailbreaks at the same time which if it goes wrong will break your phone.

My advice if you can't handle pwnage is use iLiberty+ as its the safest method.

Below is a iLiberty+ tutorial:

http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_iliberty_windows.html

For Pwnage read my FAQ! Then you can follow its steps or use the same tutorial site:

http://www.hackthatphone.com/114/iphone_pwnage_mac.html

Pwnage right now is Mac ONLY - a windows version WILL be released soon...


Explain what you consider to be "Not Reversible" just to make sure everyone understands.

jav6454
Apr 15, 2008, 08:35 PM
Explain what you consider to be "Not Reversible" just to make sure everyone understands.

Reversible means that you can go back to your original Out of the Box (OTB) settings.

nomar383
Apr 15, 2008, 08:40 PM
Reversible means that you can go back to your original Out of the Box (OTB) settings.

lol I know what it means :) I wanted to know what exactly he meant by it. ZiPhone is nearly 100% reversible. The only thing that can't be reversed is the bootloader as I previously stated. The bootloader is almost meaningless to the normal user and if they didn't know better, they wouldn't even realize that component had been changed. You can restore to 1.1.4 in iTunes and I am pretty sure no one but you would know the difference (unless you really wanted to go into technicalities)


To the OP: Just use iLiberty to avoid the headache of googling what I'm talking about :)

stereophonics
Apr 15, 2008, 09:54 PM
simply put, ziphone downgrades your bootloader from 4.6 to a 3.9

iliberty on the other hand downgrades 4.6 to a 3.9fakeblank so if you're unsure just use iliberty or iplus they both give you 3.9FB

spinstorm
Apr 15, 2008, 10:10 PM
If you take it back to Apple then they WILL KNOW your bootloader is the wrong type for the phone serial number and see you hacked it EVEN if you put everything back to normal box condition.

The ONLY way to reverse that is with Pwnage. iLiberty's bootloader downgrade can be reversed using iLiberty itself. ZiPhone CAN NOT reverse its bootloader change on your phone.

ZiPhone IS DANGEROUS! I have explained once that it does the unlock and jailbreak at the same time and can break your phone.

Don't be fools.

Be safe.

DO NOT USE ZIPHONE EVER!

I would not want to risk my expensive phone on something which is not the safest method possible - and ziphone is not safe!

jav6454
Apr 15, 2008, 10:49 PM
If you take it back to Apple then they WILL KNOW your bootloader is the wrong type for the phone serial number and see you hacked it EVEN if you put everything back to normal box condition.

The ONLY way to reverse that is with Pwnage. iLiberty's bootloader downgrade can be reversed using iLiberty itself. ZiPhone CAN NOT reverse its bootloader change on your phone.

ZiPhone IS DANGEROUS! I have explained once that it does the unlock and jailbreak at the same time and can break your phone.

Don't be fools.

Be safe.

DO NOT USE ZIPHONE EVER!

I would not want to risk my expensive phone on something which is not the safest method possible - and ziphone is not safe!

I think I made it clear to them about that....ZiPhone = not safe.

phalewhale
Apr 16, 2008, 05:24 AM
Does anyone know the difference between iLiberty+ and iLibertyX?

nomar383
Apr 16, 2008, 09:54 AM
Does anyone know the difference between iLiberty+ and iLibertyX?

iLibertyX = mac
iLiberty+ = windows

that's it

sk8mash
Apr 16, 2008, 10:36 AM
So is iLibertyX the definitive best program for unlocking AND jailbreaking your iPhone?

Also, do you have to worry about downgrading the firmware before the jailbreak process? Or is downgrading to the bootloader the only thing?

Thankssss

nomar383
Apr 16, 2008, 11:08 AM
So is iLibertyX the definitive best program for unlocking AND jailbreaking your iPhone?

Also, do you have to worry about downgrading the firmware before the jailbreak process? Or is downgrading to the bootloader the only thing?

Thankssss
I think we've made things seem complicated :).

Step 1: Buy the phone
Step 2: Download iLibertyX
Step 3: Attach the phone
Step 4: Quit iTunes
Step 5: Run iLibertyX and follow the very self explanatory steps

This all will take under 5 minutes and nearly no know-how

When I started jailbreaking phones it took nearly an hour, now only 5 minutes :)

sk8mash
Apr 16, 2008, 11:12 AM
Yeah, my first ipod jailbreak took a good 40 minutes.

Thanks, going down to the o2 shop soon :p

MacChinoNyc
Apr 16, 2008, 11:51 AM
I think we've made things seem complicated :).

Step 1: Buy the phone
Step 2: Download iLibertyX
Step 3: Attach the phone
Step 4: Quit iTunes
Step 5: Run iLibertyX and follow the very self explanatory steps

This all will take under 5 minutes and nearly no know-how

When I started jailbreaking phones it took nearly an hour, now only 5 minutes :)

I think I'm trying this tonight. What are the chances I'll mess up my brand new iphone :eek:

Just cant wait for winpwn, seems no love for windows users :(

nomar383
Apr 16, 2008, 11:53 AM
I think I'm trying this tonight. What are the chances I'll mess up my brand new iphone :eek:

Near 0. Couldn't be ANY easier :)

rogerw
Apr 16, 2008, 02:02 PM
hi, just got a 8 gig iphone from o2.
hacked it using Liberty seems to have worked etc but. put a sim card in it from my old phone (vodafone)+ doesnt work. No network it says in the settings bit. Anything ive missed
ta for any help

when all else fails, read the instructions!
forgot one of the check boxes on the liberty panel...sorry- re did it and now all ok

auburnfan24
Apr 18, 2008, 09:59 PM
If you take it back to Apple then they WILL KNOW your bootloader is the wrong type for the phone serial number and see you hacked it EVEN if you put everything back to normal box condition.

The ONLY way to reverse that is with Pwnage. iLiberty's bootloader downgrade can be reversed using iLiberty itself. ZiPhone CAN NOT reverse its bootloader change on your phone.

ZiPhone IS DANGEROUS! I have explained once that it does the unlock and jailbreak at the same time and can break your phone.

Don't be fools.

Be safe.

DO NOT USE ZIPHONE EVER!

I would not want to risk my expensive phone on something which is not the safest method possible - and ziphone is not safe!


:eek: well sh**. here i am at home 2 days after jailbreaking with ziphone and i read all of this...i restored last night....what now?? im scared that something may be wrong now...what should i do? iliberty+? will that cover the issues i may have? restore again and wait till the sdk in june?? AHHHH!!! :confused:


**as you can tell, you all have made me a very paranoid iphone owner** :(

nomar383
Apr 19, 2008, 02:07 AM
:eek: well sh**. here i am at home 2 days after jailbreaking with ziphone and i read all of this...i restored last night....what now?? im scared that something may be wrong now...what should i do? iliberty+? will that cover the issues i may have? restore again and wait till the sdk in june?? AHHHH!!! :confused:


**as you can tell, you all have made me a very paranoid iphone owner** :(

Whoa there cowboy, not a big deal. My phone is ziphone jalibroken/unlocked as well. You are not missing out on anything and you shouldn't really be too concerned at this point. If your phone works fine with ziphone, stick with it. Since you said you already jumped the gun and restored it, just use ziphone again and forget you ever read all this :). When iphone firmware 2.0 comes out in June, you will not miss out and can use a different tool to upgrade at that point. This whole thread is a lot of paranoia and mostly to do with sending a broken phone into Apple for repairs under warranty.

b777av8r
Apr 19, 2008, 02:23 AM
Nomar, you're totally correct in your thoughts. I originally jailbroke to 1.1.2. with absolutely NO problems. I kept staring at iTunes, looking at 1.1.4. With all the reading that I'd done, I decided to 'bite the bullet'. I restored my 'broken' phone to 1.1.4 Now I had a 'brick'. I closed iTunes...fired up ZiPhone and one click and 2 minutes later....everything works.

In fact, the phone appears to work better than it did on 1.1.2. The reception seems to be better on several 'sim' cards. The battery life seems to be better. I don't know why, but remarkably so.

I don't care about taking this back to Apple and bringing it back to original condition. I took the risk to do this. All I wanted was a phone that would be usable all over the world (except for parts of Asia) and it does. I've got a load of cute new ringtones on it.

So, if anyone is breaking/unlocking their phone do it with this in mind: You are taking a risk. Apple and its wireless operators don't want anyone unlocking/jailbreaking. If you want to sleep at night with the thought of having a pristine phone, don't do the procedure. If you want to have the ability to use it over a large international platform...go for it! I don't care if the 'bootloader' is changed....I can't see it..all I know is that I've got a good phone that does all and more that I've needed.

OS X Dude
Apr 19, 2008, 08:29 AM
When I did my touch I used the traditional "restore to 1.1.1, navigate to jailbreakme.com" method and took about 15 mins.

I'm probably gonna go with Liberty this time though. Not that I don't know what I'm doing, but anything for a quiet life :)

sundaypapers
Apr 20, 2008, 03:03 PM
Hi - I'm a first timer here!

Just this afternoon bought an 8GB iPhone from Carfone Warehouse. I took it home and tried to unlock it using Ilibertyx. It "prepares jailbreak" then it "executes jailbreak" - and during this section, the text on the iphone screen goes to "bsd root: md0, major 2, minor 0" and won't get off it. I then have to restore the phone, quit iliberty and start again - only for the same thing to happen.

What can I do?? Have I got duff iPhone? How can I complete the unlocking process? Can anyone out there help?

As you can probably tell, I'm not the most technically minded of souls.

AFKMatrix
Apr 20, 2008, 03:43 PM
Have you restored your phone through itunes to the 1.4 firmware? I would personally advise if your on a mac to use Pwnage. Its very simple if you follow the guide on here. I have done it twice now lol, the second time as I wanted a custom boot image and restore image :D

Only prob i had when using Pwnage was that I had not restored my iphone to 1.4 even though it was brand new it seems it didn't have the 1.4 firmware on.