Nov 28th Apple Store Event? [Archive]

artistry

Nov 12, 2003, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by bellboy
please be Canadian iTunes... please be Canadian iTunes... please be Canadian iTunes... please be Canadian iTunes...

Wouldn't they launch it in Canada if it was? (Or did I miss something and that's is where it's happening...)

Maybe it's to mark a milestone - x million tunes sold or whatever. Or they've bought Apple Corps!

Or is it the McDonald's deal?

arn

Nov 12, 2003, 01:52 PM

dunno if it's a product launch... Apple's never had an instore event just for a product launch.

Edit: Sorry.... I guess this should read "just a hardware product revision"

arn

DGFan

Nov 12, 2003, 01:53 PM

Maybe it will be a compact flash reader for the iPod that doesn't suck!!

:p

dunno if it's a product launch... Apple's never had an instore event just for a product launch.

Ok, I am confused - so what DO in store events usually happen for?

ITR 81

Nov 12, 2003, 01:56 PM

New partnership deal with Company X or new iTunes Music Store for Canada or that McDonalds deal..I figure it has to be something along those lines.

dubweiser

Nov 12, 2003, 01:58 PM

The day after Thanksgiving is Black Friday - the busiest day of the year. Maybe its just a simple sale at all the stores.

DGFan

Nov 12, 2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by dubweiser
The day after Thanksgiving is Black Friday - the busiest day of the year. Maybe its just a simple sale at all the stores.

sort of

http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/shopping.htm

arn

Nov 12, 2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by DGFan

Ok, I am confused - so what DO in store events usually happen for?

Sorry... yes, clearly for Product launches such as Jaguar and Panther.... but I guess I was thinking not for hardware revisions - such as a new iPod.

arn

Lancetx

Nov 12, 2003, 02:33 PM

They had a special store event for the introduction of the revised iPods (3G) back in April so maybe this will be something similar? Here's just hoping it'll be something exciting, although it does seem a little soon for a 4G iPod already since it's only been 7 months.

SFNE Freak

Nov 12, 2003, 02:57 PM

Don't you guys make me wait to buy my iPod in suspicion. ;)

the_mole1314

Nov 12, 2003, 03:17 PM

If I think it is what I think it is, I think quite a few people with little money will be happy... but hey, that's just me. :p

SiliconAddict

Nov 12, 2003, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by the_mole1314
I think quite a few people with little money will be happy

Dare we utter the words? Cheap. Wow. A cheap iPod. That would send the competition reeling.

Then again Maybe Apple purchased the audio arm of Sony. :D Imagine apple owning a major chunk of the music industry pie. Oooo I think I just got an endorphin rush. :D

pkradd

Nov 12, 2003, 04:00 PM

It will definately be a hardware announcement. Perhaps a new kind of iPod or a lower priced one ($199). Perhaps they will announce that Apple Corps and Apple Computer have made up and Beatles product will be available at the iTMS Store (too far out?). If it was really, really important there would probably be a special event email to the press to come to Cupertino.

JoeRadar

Nov 12, 2003, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Macrumors
Apple is rumored to make a significant announcement over the next week and host a Music related in-store event at their Apple Stores after Thanksgiving (Nov 28th).
<RANT>
I don't think Apple is pushing their iPods and iTunes advantage enough. Apple should really push their gift certificate feature this holiday season. Apple needs to make very clear to parents of Children with Windows systems that Apple's iTunes and gift certificates will work form them.

Apple, make sure every store has a PC (HP, Gateway, whatever) running iTMS sitting in the front window. Draw in those Windows users. Draw in those parents. Draw in those employees who need a gift for the office Christmas party.

With iTunes for Windows working with the music store, a gift certificate could benefit almost everyone. No returns. No "I already have this CD". No sarcastic "I always wanted the Brady Bunch Christmas songs".

If Apple doesn't clean up with iTunes Music Store for this holiday, I will be very disapointend in the.
</RANT>

bennetsaysargh

Nov 12, 2003, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by pkradd
Perhaps they will announce that Apple Corps and Apple Computer have made up and Beatles product will be available at the iTMS Store (too far out?). If it was really, really important there would probably be a special event email to the press to come to Cupertino.

that would be if they were higher than the beatls were when they wrote lucy in th sky with diamonds or yellow sumbarine. :p

anyway, i think it's cheaper iPods, just in time for christmas. it can be much more than that.

cubist

Nov 12, 2003, 05:43 PM

Am I confused, or is there a London Mac Expo next week? Is Apple exhibiting there?

kerryb

Nov 12, 2003, 05:56 PM

Yes, bigger drives, improved battery life, and dare I say cheaper. The iPod-ITMS is the biggest success Apple has had since the original iMac was released. They will not allow the advantage they enjoy in the market of this product and service to slip. Look for very aggressive pricing with the compettion heating up. As a side note any design change (color or material) could be a clue or sneak peek at the future iMac set for 2004. Remember you read it here first.

DanUk2003

Nov 12, 2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by cubist
Am I confused, or is there a London Mac Expo next week? Is Apple exhibiting there?

Yes there is "Mac Expo 2003" in London. Apple is actually the largest exhibitor, but they do not (historically speaking) use this ehibition as a product-announcement platform; merely a show-off-product platform.

Very good expo too!

PowerBook User

Nov 12, 2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by JoeRadar
<RANT>
I don't think Apple is pushing their iPods and iTunes advantage enough. Apple should really push their gift certificate feature this holiday season. Apple needs to make very clear to parents of Children with Windows systems that Apple's iTunes and gift certificates will work form them.

Apple, make sure every store has a PC (HP, Gateway, whatever) running iTMS sitting in the front window. Draw in those Windows users. Draw in those parents. Draw in those employees who need a gift for the office Christmas party.

With iTunes for Windows working with the music store, a gift certificate could benefit almost everyone. No returns. No "I already have this CD". No sarcastic "I always wanted the Brady Bunch Christmas songs".

If Apple doesn't clean up with iTunes Music Store for this holiday, I will be very disapointend in the.
</RANT>
I think that's a great idea. Apple really needs to push sales of iPods and sales on the iTMS. People could actually see how easy they are too use on Windows, too.

the_mole1314

Nov 12, 2003, 07:06 PM

Well, no wintel PCs in the Apple Stores, that wouldn't in the best interest of Apple. I think that having a Now Works With Windows display is good though.

jcook793

Nov 12, 2003, 07:12 PM

Personally I'd like to see the long-rumored revision on the Cinema Displays. But that's just me.

JW Pepper

Nov 12, 2003, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by DanUk2003
Yes there is "Mac Expo 2003" in London. Apple is actually the largest exhibitor, but they do not (historically speaking) use this ehibition as a product-announcement platform; merely a show-off-product platform.

Very good expo too!

No Keynotes, so no new products.

macMaestro

Nov 12, 2003, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by JW Pepper
No Keynotes, so no new products.

Yet. There are still openings which Mr. Jobs could book...

Yeah, like that would ever happen in a million years. :rolleyes:

JoeRadar

Nov 12, 2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by JW Pepper
No Keynotes, so no new products.
The dual 1G processor I have was quietly slipped out about two weeks after MacWorld San Francisco. No keynotes, no fanfare. Just suddenly, "we are shipping dual processor systems."

SiliconAddict

Nov 12, 2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by the_mole1314
Well, no wintel PCs in the Apple Stores, that wouldn't in the best interest of Apple. I think that having a Now Works With Windows display is good though.

G4 Tower running VPC with Windows XP on it running iTunes for Windows?

SoonToGetAMac

Nov 12, 2003, 08:39 PM

Couldn't it just the holiday thing like last year? I remember it started at 8pm and I got my iPod there for like $360+tax instead of $400+tax.

ogun7

Nov 12, 2003, 09:18 PM

everybody get your panties untwisted. this is just the announcement of either the McDonald's or Pepsi iTunes Music Store giveaway.

mproud

Nov 12, 2003, 10:34 PM

Lower price on the iPod!

More iPod accesories!

New iTMS bonus tracks!

iTMS Gift Cards at the Apple Stores!

Kid Red

Nov 12, 2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by SiliconAddict
Dare we utter the words? Cheap. Wow. A cheap iPod. That would send the competition reeling.

Then again Maybe Apple purchased the audio arm of Sony. :D Imagine apple owning a major chunk of the music industry pie. Oooo I think I just got an endorphin rush. :D

How could Apple buy Sony music a few days after Sony merged with BMI?

morlium

Nov 12, 2003, 11:46 PM

don't get too excited ...Apple did this last year too on Nov. 28, with no new products ... just some discounts and giveaways.

stingerman

Nov 13, 2003, 01:17 AM

iChat AV for Windows (pushes iSight) and a iChat AV conferencing software for OS X that allows Intranet mulitway video and audio conferencing for the enterprise, works with OS X Server software only but accepts both Mac and Windows clients.

swissmann

Nov 13, 2003, 02:16 AM

I also would like a display announcement. Lower prices on current models and a new high end model.

AndrewMT

Nov 13, 2003, 03:09 AM

The Apple store in McLean (the first Apple store to open) has been under renovation since late October. The sign in front of the store says "Apple- always changing for the better." and it also said that the store would be open around mid-to-late November. This has to be related.

sethypoo

Nov 13, 2003, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by arn
dunno if it's a product launch... Apple's never had an instore event just for a product launch.

Edit: Sorry.... I guess this should read "just a hardware product revision"

arn

Wasn't the iPod launched in the Apple Store?

sethypoo

Nov 13, 2003, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by mproud
Lower price on the iPod!

More iPod accesories!

New iTMS bonus tracks!

iTMS Gift Cards at the Apple Stores!

And random free song giveaway's!

And an iPod for every child!

And peace on earth!

:rolleyes:

rikers_mailbox

Nov 13, 2003, 03:44 AM

Maybe a move in the storage size and pricing? I must say that I was a bit confused by their last product revision. . . I thought the line up would have been:

10GB - $199
20GB - $299
30GB - $399
40GB - $499

Who could pass up an iPod for $199?! A 10GB is a great entry level 'Pod and any music fanatic will tell you it's easy to fill it up. . . you'd *have* to buy another one sooner or later. Especially with an iTMS addiction :D

pkradd

Nov 13, 2003, 08:25 AM

everybody get your panties untwisted. this is just the announcement of either the McDonald's or Pepsi iTunes Music Store giveaway.

Nope. Apple doesn't make marketing announcements at Apple Stores. There's already a Pepsi logo on the Apple site. The deal starts during the Superbowl, it has already been revealed. Apple Stores are about hardware and software.

Also, VPC running on G4 Towers will not happen as Apple no longer makes the G4 and they have been removed from the Apple Stores. It won't happen until M$ revises (if it decides to do so) VPC to run on the G5.

NNO-Stephen

Nov 13, 2003, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by pkradd
Nope. Apple doesn't make marketing announcements at Apple Stores. There's already a Pepsi logo on the Apple site. The deal starts during the Superbowl, it has already been revealed. Apple Stores are about hardware and software.

Also, VPC running on G4 Towers will not happen as Apple no longer makes the G4 and they have been removed from the Apple Stores. It won't happen until M$ revises (if it decides to do so) VPC to run on the G5.

Apple still has G4 Towers... maybe not in the Apple Retail Stores, but they do sell them...

also, several posters ago, whoever said SONY and BMI merged... do you mean BMG or EMI?

pkradd

Nov 13, 2003, 09:16 AM

I know they still sell G4's on their website but this discussion is about the Apple Stores where G4s are nowhere in sight.

Sony Music and BMG Music are merging (pending government approval).

TGD

Nov 13, 2003, 09:52 AM

iTunes 5

Sol

Nov 13, 2003, 10:03 AM

I would love to see iPods in colour cases. White is so... 2001.

the_mole1314

Nov 13, 2003, 10:23 AM

Don't know what your smoking, but our Apple Store still has quite a few G4s on display.

jayb2000

Nov 13, 2003, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by dubweiser
The day after Thanksgiving is Black Friday - the busiest day of the year. Maybe its just a simple sale at all the stores.

Check out Buy Nothing Day!
http://adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd/

wdlove

Nov 13, 2003, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by the_mole1314
Don't know what your smoking, but our Apple Store still has quite a few G4s on display.

The Apple Store at the Chestnut Hill Mall also still has some Power Macs on display.

I will definitely put this date on my calendar. Sounds like a great day to officially open to Christmas season. Look forward to see what the specials they will offer.

blakespot

Nov 13, 2003, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by jcook793
Personally I'd like to see the long-rumored revision on the Cinema Displays. But that's just me.

I, too, am waiting for this. I am holding on purchasing two 20" Cinemas for this reason - there are rumors that something new on this front will come this month (november).

blakespot

dieselg4

Nov 13, 2003, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Macrumors
Apple is rumored to make a significant announcement over the next week and host a Music related in-store event at their Apple Stores after Thanksgiving (Nov 28th).

No further details yet available.

These might be unrelated things. Who knows. I'd hope for displays, but that doesn't sound like a "significant annouoncement" to me. Wasn't the last Music Event about iTunes? I'd really like it to be an iPod price adjustment (since some compitors are undercutting iPod's price, though during the marketing address they said they weren't looking to change the price points of iPods). Apple makes alot of money on iPods ($175 ono ea. 40 GB sold, according to soem print articles.) Maybe they could drop the price of each by $25 just in time for xmas? Esp. for the computer uneducated gift-buyers (like my folks) who I think are getting me a new iPod, if a salesman says "this is the same thing as the iPod, but its this much cheaper" they wouldn't know that it wouldn't work with iTunes. They wouldn't even know to ask the question.

Then again, my parents burried their fisrt MAC (money access card, wiht the little rainbow on it) in a locked drawer in their desk becaue they were afraid they's lose all their savings with it.

rueyeet

Nov 13, 2003, 01:30 PM

Buy Nothing Day?......heck, it doesn't take activism to keep me away from the malls on the most crowded day of the year, Apple news or no. *shudder*

Think I'll try doing my shopping on Sunday mornings, this year. While at least some portion of people are at church. I absolutely despise malls during the holiday shopping season.

(why not order online, you say? because I'm a dyed-in-the-wool procrastinator, that's why!)

Ja Di ksw

Nov 13, 2003, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by rikers_mailbox

A 10GB is a great entry level 'Pod and any music fanatic will tell you it's easy to fill it up. . . you'd *have* to buy another one sooner or later. Especially with an iTMS addiction :D

You know, I wonder how true this is. I have the original 5 GB iPod, and it easily holds my 761 songs. The 10 GB holds what roughly? 2000 or a little more? That truely seems like plenty. More than 2000 songs and there are some you would never hear. Heck, there are songs I haven't heard on my iPod for months while its on random, and I use it everyday, and I have under a thousand! While some people do have tons and tons of songs, 40,000 or whatever that I'm sure the legally bought *cough cough*, I don't think 10 GB is something "easy to fill" up and that most people will *have* to buy a new one sooner or later.

dieselg4

Nov 13, 2003, 04:30 PM

I tend to agree. I have about 2.5 G of songs. And I'm not buying new ones at a rapid rate either. I'd of bought a 5Gigger if it was avail. in the new form factor. I guess maybe apple can't get a good price on a small 5Gig HD? I can't think of any laptops that still ship with 5 (or even 10) Gig HD's anymore.

daijones

Nov 13, 2003, 09:25 PM

Could this be linked to Jobs' comment at the analyst's meeting in early November about upcoming products?
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=46254
Particularly, the bit where he says:
So, right now we've got an 80%+ share in our music store and we're #1 in units and of course revenue in the iPod. We're investing a lot in that. Got some great stuff coming out over the next... uh... timeframes.
Replace "...uh...timeframes" with "three weeks", which seems to work, and it brings us to the coming week.

Could be good. I want it to be a portable personal video recorder myself, like an Archos AV340 but with Apple elegance and integration.

(EDIT: probably just a coincidence, but the official release of the supercomputer top 500 next week would be a good time to announce a G5 XServe for clustering applications)

CmdrLaForge

Nov 14, 2003, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by Stella
Canadian iTunes...

... think I may be hoping too much.

I mean, Apple actively supporting international markets?!! :-)

No - they don't ! At least not Europe. But why should Apple ? It seems they make enough profit and just focus on the US market.

CmdrLaForge

Nov 14, 2003, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Ja Di ksw
You know, I wonder how true this is. I have the original 5 GB iPod, and it easily holds my 761 songs. The 10 GB holds what roughly? 2000 or a little more? That truely seems like plenty. More than 2000 songs and there are some you would never hear. Heck, there are songs I haven't heard on my iPod for months while its on random, and I use it everyday, and I have under a thousand! While some people do have tons and tons of songs, 40,000 or whatever that I'm sure the legally bought *cough cough*, I don't think 10 GB is something "easy to fill" up and that most people will *have* to buy a new one sooner or later.

I think that the iPods with bigger drives can be used as external backup drives. That would be the main reason for me to get a larger drive.

mdntcallr

Nov 14, 2003, 01:50 PM

we need a music ipod which has a video screen and can be used for dj advanced service.

also great function, WORK WITH TIVO.

have the video ipod be able to save and playback tivo shows and movies.

perhaps even rip dvd to it.

bitfactory

Nov 14, 2003, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by daijones
(EDIT: probably just a coincidence, but the official release of the supercomputer top 500 next week would be a good time to announce a G5 XServe for clustering applications)

they won't have an in store event and announce anything about the XServe... the Apple Stores are for consumers.

bennetsaysargh

Nov 14, 2003, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by mdntcallr
we need a music ipod which has a video screen and can be used for dj advanced service.

also great function, WORK WITH TIVO.

have the video ipod be able to save and playback tivo shows and movies.

perhaps even rip dvd to it.

not a video iPod, but maybe something that can connect to tivo. if that happens, it wont really be music though.

AppleManEric

Nov 14, 2003, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by mdntcallr
we need a music ipod which has a video screen and can be used for dj advanced service.

also great function, WORK WITH TIVO.

have the video ipod be able to save and playback tivo shows and movies.

perhaps even rip dvd to it.

or, what would be cool I think, would have the iPod's have color screen's and everything, and then you could listen to a song while watching it's music video. ITMS could sell songs with videos also. and if a song didn't have a video it could have the visualizer playing. But of course all this would take up a lot of drive space, and also the visualizer would take a lot of procossing power, so the battery would be drained *like that*. unless better more efficient batteries were released, like ultracompact hydrogen fuel cells. but hey, that will probably no happen for many years. A tivo iPod would be awesome. Personally though, I would be satisfied if they released a couple more games. When i am in the car, I listen to my pod and play games. but with 4, gets old real quick.

Fahd

Nov 16, 2003, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Ja Di ksw
You know, I wonder how true this is. I have the original 5 GB iPod, and it easily holds my 761 songs. The 10 GB holds what roughly? 2000 or a little more? That truely seems like plenty. More than 2000 songs and there are some you would never hear. Heck, there are songs I haven't heard on my iPod for months while its on random, and I use it everyday, and I have under a thousand! While some people do have tons and tons of songs, 40,000 or whatever that I'm sure the legally bought *cough cough*, I don't think 10 GB is something "easy to fill" up and that most people will *have* to buy a new one sooner or later.

I have a 20 GB ipod and its currently filled up to 13.8 GB. While I agree with your comment on legality of most users with lots of songs, mine are all from my CDs and most of my tapes. While the quality of the songs on the ipod which are from the tapes is not great, its actually quite decent.

JohnStrass

Nov 18, 2003, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by rikers_mailbox
Maybe a move in the storage size and pricing? I must say that I was a bit confused by their last product revision. . . I thought the line up would have been:

10GB - $199
20GB - $299
30GB - $399
40GB - $499

Who could pass up an iPod for $199?! A 10GB is a great entry level 'Pod and any music fanatic will tell you it's easy to fill it up. . . you'd *have* to buy another one sooner or later. Especially with an iTMS addiction :D
I would love to se low prices, but look at this:
Some wanker commented on CNET that apple makes up to 175 per unit. so, even if 500 for the 40gig - less 175 profit = 325 for that unit. You cant really drop the price by $100 without eroding the profit. After all, (unprofitable) iTMS exists to drive (profitable) iPod sales.

Also, the $199 10gigs (with slim profit margins) would canabilize the sales of the pricier ones (with their hefty profits margins).
That said, if they drop to $199, I'll buy one to replace the one I gave to my sister in law last summer.

MacBandit

Nov 19, 2003, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by CmdrLaForge
No - they don't ! At least not Europe. But why should Apple ? It seems they make enough profit and just focus on the US market.

It's not Apple that isn't trying in Europe. It's the numerous individual countries and their independent licensing that is making it so difficult.