New Version of MetaX Issues

[DJAKO]

I opened MetaX today to be prompted with an update which I downloaded. I tried tagging a few movies I had on my computer.

Once completed I dragged the movie to iTunes to add to my library, but when I played the newly tagged movie, I got no sound. I tried this with three other movies with the same result. Picture was OK, but no sound.

I then tried to play the files VLC and to my shock got the normal sound.

Can you guys think of anything that could be causing this? I never had this problem with previous versions

[Kilamite]

Well, I've got a problem where MetaX will keep telling me it has finished tagging my files even after I click "OK".

As for your issues - are the .mp4 files playing fine before you tag them?

[Oilbrnr]

I tagged four files today, and one of them also has no audio. I'm going to do some more investigation.

[almostinsane]

This new version sucks. I've had numerous crashes already just trying to write 1 file.

[Oilbrnr]

I just confirmed that the VOB file HAS audio, so it does appear that MetaX did something to the file...

I'm had to run the VOB through VH again. This time I'm going to copy the mp4 before I have MX do the tagging.

I also have been getting an error dialog box on launch, "Persistent store migration failed, missing mapping model." This happened two revs ago, but up until now, seemed to have no impact.

UPDATE: Well the second .mp4 doesn't have audio straight out of VisualHub either...

[ault45]

I'm having the same problem. tagged 3 movies-no sound. tried without tagging-perfect. tagged again-no sound. wish i would have never updated.

[NightStorm]

I think there are some growing pain issues with the automated tagging service. For example, for whatever reason it could not connect to the service last night so instead of failing gracefully, it froze MetaX and killed the process... leaving me to retype all of my tags again. Hopefully a more graceful approach can be found so that even if it doesn't transmit the info to tagchimp, it still tags the files.

FYI, I have not noticed any issues with sound missing since upgrading, and I have run 15-20 encodes through since upgrading.

[Oilbrnr]

I'm on v. 2.4.0 and have not had any issues other than the dialog box popup noted above.

[nando2323]

Just updated mine this morning but have not tried it yet. One thing though the update that came out a day or so ago that added the TagChimp stuff now it takes forever to tag movies like 4x the time that it did before. I don't know what is causing this performance decrease but it really sucks. Maybe the chapters thing that was added did this, I don't know.

[Darth.Titan]

I've had some issues with the new version as well. I have to turn off the option to share my tags with TagChimp otherwise the program crashes. I can still get information from TagChimp, it's when I try to transmit to them that I have problems.
Seems to be much slower also. Updates seem to be coming frequently to MetaX over the past few days so I'm confident that these issues will be resolved.

[Kilamite]

They just released 2.4.3 - which fixes certain issues that the update yesterday caused.

[eschulist]

For the last couple versions its been really unstable when adding more than a few movies at a time.

One thing I noticed that I never saw is a warning on startup that said my Archive was over 100MB and that it should be backed up and deleted. So I tried this but saving the data crashes MetaX. So I just tried to clear everything to free up the program which helps, but if the program crashes or restarts all that archived information is back. So deleting it really isn't doing anything.

[Oilbrnr]

What do you need the archive for anyway? :confused:

I too disabled TagChimp. Don't really see the benefit.

[thunderclap]

What do you need the archive for anyway? :confused:

I too disabled TagChimp. Don't really see the benefit.

MetaX constantly crashed with the latest version when trying to tag. It turned out this happened when it was trying to "share" the tags. Like you I disabled this and it fixed the problem.

[emt1]

MetaX has been nothing but problems for a long time. I wish there was an alternative.

[DJAKO]

I found out why I was getting no audio. I was hitting the toggle button to select all the tags.

I guess this new version also allows you to edit the chapters of the movie, which was causing no audio when it was toggled for some reason?

Unchecking this box while tagging the movie did the trick. Hope this helps some of you.

Is it me or is MetaX trying to do too much stuff? Stick to simply tagging your movies/tv shows.

[rodneyok]

Be sure to let me know when you are having problems with MetaX. Sending crash logs will also help me track these gremlins down. I'm usually pretty good about getting things fixed when I know about them. Enjoy!

[Oilbrnr]

MetaX has been nothing but problems for a long time. I wish there was an alternative.

This is the first problem I've had in over a year...

:confused:

[Bickity]

Very weird issue, two of my movies have no sound but when they are synced to my Apple TV they have sound.

[Oilbrnr]

Very weird issue, two of my movies have no sound but when they are synced to my Apple TV they have sound.

So are you saying that there is no sound when streamed to :apple:TV or no sound when played back on your (assuming) Mac?

[tagChimp]

Hi,

There was a bug in MetaX that caused a crash when posting to tagChimp. The newest version has the fix.

Some people were experiencing 'problems' when doing an automated lookup in tagChimp. The lookup was returning results, but taking a long time because the search was quite broad. Some people assumed that they weren't getting results. they were, it just took a long time so they exited. A specific cause for this was the size of the cover art. Some people were uploading files that were very high-res, which made the search take forever, because each image had to be downloaded to MetaX before the search returned any results.

The search is faster and more refined. :)

Tim

[Bickity]

So are you saying that there is no sound when streamed to :apple:TV or no sound when played back on your (assuming) Mac?

I am not streaming these, I have it set to sync all. To clarify, when I played the movies in directly in iTunes I get no sound, but the same synced version plays with sound on AppleTV. Very whacked. Thank god for Time Machine, I got all the movies back before I tagged them.

[Oilbrnr]

I am not streaming these, I have it set to sync all. To clarify, when I played the movies in directly in iTunes I get no sound, but the same synced version plays with sound on AppleTV. Very whacked. Thank god for Time Machine, I got all the movies back before I tagged them.

So this is not a 5.1/Perian issue?

[mwp98223]

I am not streaming these, I have it set to sync all. To clarify, when I played the movies in directly in iTunes I get no sound, but the same synced version plays with sound on AppleTV. Very whacked. Thank god for Time Machine, I got all the movies back before I tagged them.

I had the same problem. I created the file using Handbrake and ran the resulting mp4 and it worked in iTunes. I tagged the file with MetaX and lost the audio track. I did this twice with the same results. Previous versions of MetaX did not do this. This is the update. I will send a bug report.

[nando2323]

Dammit. Yesterday I updated then tagged all of Family Guy Season 1 no problem. Tried to do Family Guy Season 2 and it gave me some 0 byte errors on all of the files. Went into the folder and all the season 2 files were deleted gone forever deleted too not even in the trash. So I re-ripped it this morning and will try again later and see what happens.

[DJAKO]

I had the same problem. I created the file using Handbrake and ran the resulting mp4 and it worked in iTunes. I tagged the file with MetaX and lost the audio track. I did this twice with the same results. Previous versions of MetaX did not do this. This is the update. I will send a bug report.

Don't use the toggle like you did on previous versions, because it also now toggles the 'chapters' check box. Which for some reason will rewrite the chapters with no audio. I had the same issue you did.

I now just check the few boxes I need and it works fine now from iTunes and my ATV

[tinydancer]

Don't use the toggle like you did on previous versions, because it also now toggles the 'chapters' check box. Which for some reason will rewrite the chapters with no audio. I had the same issue you did.

I now just check the few boxes I need and it works fine now from iTunes and my ATV


So, if I am getting no audio and therefore need to re-tag my file, will I have to re-encode the file and then tag it without toggeling anyting? Or, can I just re-tag in MetaX without toggeling?

[Sean Dempsey]

Hi,

There was a bug in MetaX that caused a crash when posting to tagChimp. The newest version has the fix.

Some people were experiencing 'problems' when doing an automated lookup in tagChimp. The lookup was returning results, but taking a long time because the search was quite broad. Some people assumed that they weren't getting results. they were, it just took a long time so they exited. A specific cause for this was the size of the cover art. Some people were uploading files that were very high-res, which made the search take forever, because each image had to be downloaded to MetaX before the search returned any results.

The search is faster and more refined. :)

Tim


Cool man. Anything to make tagging easier, I am for.

[Bickity]

Don't use the toggle like you did on previous versions, because it also now toggles the 'chapters' check box. Which for some reason will rewrite the chapters with no audio. I had the same issue you did.

I now just check the few boxes I need and it works fine now from iTunes and my ATV

Good find, but this still doesn't explain the fact that after tagging I can play through QuickTime with audio and once I throw it into iTunes no audio. Plus the fact that if copied to AppleTV, they play fine also. Just an iTunes problem.

[rodneyok]

I want to drop you guys a note and let you know that I have fixed this chapter writing-audio issue. By fixing this bug the write time has been reduced as well. My thanks to all who submitted bug reports on this one. I hope to release the fix today.

[Bickity]

I want to drop you guys a note and let you know that I have fixed this chapter writing-audio issue. By fixing this bug the write time has been reduced as well. My thanks to all who submitted bug reports on this one. I hope to release the fix today.

rodneyok, thanks for the update. Can't wait to try later, I will post my results.

[DJAKO]

Good find, but this still doesn't explain the fact that after tagging I can play through QuickTime with audio and once I throw it into iTunes no audio. Plus the fact that if copied to AppleTV, they play fine also. Just an iTunes problem.

I know, I had the same issue. File would play fine with VLC, but not in iTunes. Wasn't too sure why this was happening, but doing what I described above fixed it.

I had to use the clean copy of my encode, I tried using the already tagged one and it did not work.

[omni]

Got the last 2 new updates 2.43 and 2.44 and this annoying error message still won't go away:

Persistent store migration failed, missing mapping model.

Pops up on start up.

[Bickity]

Good news! 2.4.4 fixes the audio issue, thanks rodneyok. I have tagged three movies with the newest version and MetaX is back. Not only is the audio issue taken care of, tagging seems to take half the time.

[DJAKO]

Good news! 2.4.4 fixes the audio issue, thanks rodneyok. I have tagged three movies with the newest version and MetaX is back. Not only is the audio issue taken care of, tagging seems to take half the time.

Do you click toggle all still with 2.4.4 or are you just making sure the tagging of the chapters isn't selected?

[CrisK]

Got the last 2 new updates 2.43 and 2.44 and this annoying error message still won't go away:

Persistent store migration failed, missing mapping model.

Pops up on start up.

Shut down MetaX and then move or delete the file in Library/Application Support/Metax. That should take care of the error message.

[Bickity]

Do you click toggle all still with 2.4.4 or are you just making sure the tagging of the chapters isn't selected?

I actually did both, I first used toggle to select all and then deselected the ones I didnt want.

[omni]

Shut down MetaX and then move or delete the file in Library/Application Support/Metax. That should take care of the error message.

Solved. Thanks!

[bacaramac]

Just a question on how MetaX actually works. Does it somehow reprocess the entire movie, etc? The reason I ask is as follows:

I originally had a Mac Mini and hard wired to Time Capsule where I store all my media content. I now have an iMac that I just connected via wifi since it has wireless N. It now seems that everything is really slow when tagging in MetaX. Is it my wireless or the new version of MetaX?

[NightStorm]

Yes, it has to rewrite the entire file when tagging.

[rotarypower101]

DONT WRITE ANY TV TAGS UNTILL YOU READ THIS!!

hey i think i might have found a BUG...or at least intended usability has changed.

the "Title" tag in the "Info" tab at the top used to just use the name of the file if you left it blank when toggling all settings.

now under 2.4.4 if you leave this field empty to pick up the episode name when writing a TV show, and toggle all settings, it overwrites the data and leaves the Title blank when adding the track to iTunes.

i know this "new" way of doing it sounds logical, but it is very detrimental the the tagging process and i would like to know if it will continue to stay this way of if it is simply an oversight?



other small things that have changed, but are not of the caliber of importance as the former issue are :

the "X" button on the search bar doesn't seem to delete the text in the box anymore.

i have noticed when locking the "Video Kind" tab, it now reverts to "movie" under certain conditions instead of holding the locked type as before.

i have an issue that may be just me (i haven't figured out any rhyme or reason to its actions), but the Genre action/adventure seems to bounce back and forth between 2 separate distinct choices, and a combined choice? anybody else experience this?



these are more requests than issues...

the search title box is now always visible (yah!) but it seems to be of a larger font and now does not display the full title when a search has been performed. this would not be an issue except the bar can not be expanded to show all the criterion.

also can there be a small checkbox that will bring back the functionality or cloning the short and long descriptions please?

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I've now tried the latest MetaX for both Leopard (my MBP) and Windows (for tagging M4V AppleTV encoded movies) and I have the same problem with both. Either I get no audio or no video with the resulting files about 80% of the time. If I change something and rewrite, sometimes I'll get video back but still no audio, etc. in iTunes. MetaX is clearly screwing something up in the file and by the dates in this thread, this has been going on for some time and they're doing nothing about it.

A tagging program that cannot reliably tag movies without destroying them is not worth using period. Sadly, iTunes own "get info" method will not reliably add movie artwork for some unknown reason, which results in the poster being shown on AppleTV, but that is preferable to no sound or video. I'm now going to try the older version for Tiger and see how it fares.

[downinitjr]

I've been using meta-x to tag my files for as long as I can remember (including the latest version), and apart from maybe the initial release, I've yet to have a problem tagging any .mp4, or .m4v file I've created. I don't think this is a clear issue that your having, might want to have a look at the files your trying to tag to see whats up.

[REBELinBLUE]

I am having a similar issue, it seems to only occurs with videos created with handbrake. Those created by VisualHub can be tagged and retagged without issue, those created by handbrake always end up corrupted (some you can just hear the audio but some you get no audio or video and the chapter list in QuickTime just displays a load of random characters) if you attempt to tag them a second time.

I'm going to try the previous version of handbrake and/or the legacy presets tomorrow to see if using them has any effect but it is really annoying as I've lost 5 movies and 3 seasons of American Dad today to this problem and now I have to rerip them again >_<

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I am having a similar issue, it seems to only occurs with videos created with handbrake. Those created by VisualHub can be tagged and retagged without issue, those created by handbrake always end up corrupted (some you can just hear the audio but some you get no audio or video and the chapter list in QuickTime just displays a load of random characters) if you attempt to tag them a second time.

I'm going to try the previous version of handbrake and/or the legacy presets tomorrow to see if using them has any effect but it is really annoying as I've lost 5 movies and 3 seasons of American Dad today to this problem and now I have to rerip them again >_<

I've had no luck with the latest Leopard OS X Intel version of MetaX in producing successful tags, but the Windows version OFTEN (not always) seems to get a usable file on the first write attempt. If you screw up (easy to do since many tags require editing to be what you want them to be in AppleTV) and try to write to the file a 2nd time, it has thus far corrupted it 100% of the time.

It just seems hard to believe that such an easy to reproduce problem (especially across platforms for goodness sake; it's not just the Mac or Windows version that has this problem) hasn't had more attention or notice by the developers. Perhaps it IS some kind of interaction between the latest Handbrake and MetaX, but from my perspective that's almost beside the point since there aren't a lot of other choices around to work with that I'm aware of (and Visual Hub isn't even available anymore).

And to answer downinitjr, the files before MetaX (I maintain a backup drive so no I don't have to re-rip them again) work perfectly fine in both iTunes and AppleTV. iTunes, however, seems unable to add artwork to all movie files which is the main reason I'm looking at MetaX in the first place. The poster frames are usually terrible substitutes for movies (showing a Paramount logo or something equally drab or even black screens) and well, you tend to want AppleTV to provide a nice professional looking menu system to impress guests with, etc.

Edit:

Here's a good example of how odd this all is. I just added tags to Back To The Future Part 3. The first time I did it, the output file was corrupted. It would not play in iTunes. I copied a backup from my PowerMac across the Network to the Windows PC and did the EXACT same operation again (same tag) with the same machine and this time the output file works fine (shrug).

[downinitjr]

I understand that you want everything to be correct and tagged with HQ artwork. Just might not be as clear cut of an issue as you think. I've tagged, and retagged literally hundreds of movies ripped with handbrake, added changed, updated tags and have yet to have a problem with meta-x. I've also used CLI programs such as mp4v2 to add the new hd tags, and retagged with meta-x, all with no issues. Being as meta-x is really the only good option for tagging files, I think you would see quite a few more people complaining if there was that widespread of an issue. And of course remember it is a freely offered program, so development/enhancement is completely at the whim of the developer.

Where exactly are the files that you are having issues with coming from? What container/format are they in .m4v, .m4p, .mov? Have you made sure to enable 64bit support in the preferences if you are trying to tag files larger than 4gigs? Delete meta-x preferences?

You can also try using a program such as squeegify (http://lostify.com/download/) to remove all of the metadata from one of your corrupted files, to see if it is playable again.

[downinitjr]

Here's a good example of how odd this all is. I just added tags to Back To The Future Part 3. The first time I did it, the output file was corrupted. It would not play in iTunes. I copied a backup from my PowerMac across the Network to the Windows PC and did the EXACT same operation again (same tag) with the same machine and this time the output file works fine (shrug).
Are you tagging the files locally, or are you tagging files located on a remote volume? When you add them to itunes, is itunes copying the files to its library? Just checking to make sure there isn't an issue with the files becoming corrupted when they are being copied across the network, either by you, or by itunes.

[REBELinBLUE]

hmm, interesting. Seems enabling support for large files solves the problem I am having, even though the files were less than 4GB.

Just made 2 copies of a 150MB video, retagged one with Large file support enabled and it worked, then retagged the other with large file support disabled and it resulted in a corrupt file.

Will do some more testing tomorrow.

I had already tried using squeegify to remove the meta data and some files it made no difference, others it restored the video but not the audio. AtomicParsley also complained when I tried to do metaEnema on some files I got the following output

MacBook-Pro:Desktop stephen$ AtomicParsley "Pirates of the Caribbean - Curse of the Black Pearl.m4v" --metaEnema -o "cleaned.m4v"
You must be off your block thinking I'm going to tag a file that is at LEAST 18446744071702612930 bytes long.

Pretty sure the file wasn't 16,384 petabytes in size ;)

[downinitjr]

hmm, interesting. Seems enabling support for large files solves the problem I am having, even though the files were less than 4GB.


I don't personally know of any downside to enabling 64 bit support, so as long as it works, right... :)

[MagnusVonMagnum]

I don't see any 64-bit option in the Windows version of MetaX. None of my files are over 4GB (most aren't over 2GB). I've had a few more bad encodes, but the Windows version seems much more reliable than the OS X version for me thus far. I was even able to re-tag a mistake and the file was still OK.

My iTunes setups do not copy or organize on their own (save imports from CDs). The files are all M4V created using the AppleTV preset in Handbrake 0.93 modified to detelecine and decomb (default). Most have AC3 soundtracks and commentary tracks are included when available. Multiple soundtracks are set with the -A option in the windows version OR edited with Muxo on the Mac version (I encode with both my MBP and PC to double my output capacity; my PowerMac is too slow to bother with and runs Tiger most of the time anyway,a although I wouldn't mind getting an Elgato Turbo stick for it, but I hear its software has its own problems).

My PowerMac is the server for two AppleTV units and all three of my computers are connected via Gigabit Ethernet (MBP when docked; it has 802.11N when used around the house). Thank goodness for Gigabit or it'd take forever to move these giant files around in quantity.

[JonHimself]

So I'm having problems as well. TV show DVDs that I have ripped and then added tags in MetaX have no sound or video. I'm using an intel mbp with Leopard and the latest versions of metax and handbrake. I've tried playing them in Quicktime and iTunes.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

So I'm having problems as well. TV show DVDs that I have ripped and then added tags in MetaX have no sound or video. I'm using an intel mbp with Leopard and the latest versions of metax and handbrake. I've tried playing them in Quicktime and iTunes.

After tagging over 200 movies, I've learned a few things. One is that Handbrake in Leopard will USUALLY write the tag correctly the 1st time only. It will corrupt the files 100% of the time if you try to write to a file a 2nd time. It also fails on the first try about 8% of the time and corrupts the file so ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS have a backup of the file you're tagging before you attempt to tag it (or set MetaX to leave the original alone and create a 2nd file). If you screw up the tag, you're going to have to do it over again with the backup file because it CANNOT currently rewrite a file. Some kind of bug is causing 100% corruption here on a rewrite.

So I'm extra careful at verifying that the information I'm going to write is what I want and that there aren't things missing like the rating, etc. I usually look for a tag that has the correct track labeling first, lock that in with a click and then pick the description I like best or add my own and lock that in and then look for the best artwork (or add my own if they all suck) and make sure titling is consistent with multi-volume titles like Star Wars, etc.

The Windows version of MetaX is a little better, but seems to write much slower to the file (i.e. tag writing seems about 3x longer to me). On the other hand, I HAVE successfully rewritten tags with the Windows version. It'll also still sometimes corrupt both first writes and rewrites and is far from perfect, but if you bungle a tag and don't have a backup, you could at least make a backup of the bungled tag and ATTEMPT to rewrite it with the Windows version of MetaX. Don't even bother with the Leopard one, IMO (unless this problem is limited only to certain OS X setups or something, but my MBP is was pretty much stock at the time running the latest versions of Leopard, etc. I've since gone to 4GB of ram, though, not that it made any real difference).

[skidoomn]

Ok I have the following issue with MetaX. I just started using it this morning. I have tried to tag about 6 -M4v files made thru Handbrake.
I use the Apple universal setting, as I want to watch the file on Apple Tv.

For example: I tagged the movie "Any Given Sunday". I seemed to tag it correct. I have an alias in itunes movie file pointing to the external HD. When I watch it on the Macbook it is fine. But, If I try and watch it on Apple TV Front Row, I have audio and NO VIDEO.

Also, when trying to tag other M4v Handbrake files I get this MetaX error.
"MetaX could not find a suitable audio track to use as a chapter reference" it then stops tagging.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Ok I have the following issue with MetaX. I just started using it this morning. I have tried to tag about 6 -M4v files made thru Handbrake.
I use the Apple universal setting, as I want to watch the file on Apple Tv.

For example: I tagged the movie "Any Given Sunday". I seemed to tag it correct. I have an alias in itunes movie file pointing to the external HD. When I watch it on the Macbook it is fine. But, If I try and watch it on Apple TV Front Row, I have audio and NO VIDEO.

Also, when trying to tag other M4v Handbrake files I get this MetaX error.
"MetaX could not find a suitable audio track to use as a chapter reference" it then stops tagging.

Did you try the file BEFORE you tagged it? It sounds like there might be a problem with the file to begin with since I've never gotten an 'error report' from Handbrake when it screws something up. It always says completed without issue and then I find it's screwed up.

I'd recommend starting with the AppleTV setting in Handbrake (make sure your presets are updated) and then modify it for Detelecine and Decomb (no de-interlace) and then save this with a new name. This will consistently produce the best quality picture. There might be a DVD or two where Detelecine needs to be turned off (not sure why one I have fools it into using it when it shouldn't which screwed the video up), but otherwise, Decomb is VASTLY superior to de-interlace. The videos pretty much look as good or in some cases better than the DVD did on my progressive DVD player.

There's also an audio menu and you'll want to make sure you select the Dolby 5.1 with PASSTHROUGH *plus* a regular dolby surround/stereo AAC track (make one FROM the 5.1 track if needed as a 2nd audio track) if you want 5.1 sound. Without the extra AAC track, the Dolby Digital 5.1 track won't play on the latest (2.3) version of AppleTV software. If there's only a dolby surround track or you don't care about 5.1, you can just use one stereo/surround AAC track for audio.

If the movie has forced sub-titles (e.g. Star Wars movies), you'll want the subtitle menu under audio set to Auto/Forced only. This will normally add hard titles to such movies. Optional sub-title tracks are a lot more involved and require extra software (e.g. Muxo) to add it. The latest 2.3 ATV software can select optional sub-title tracks finally, though.

[Rich1963]

Funny this came up. I had a similar problem last night and have been able to duplicate it in the past. For instance, I handbraked a movie using AppleTV preset and took the resultant file and fed it through to MetaX. I tagged it and dropped it into iTunes. A few months later I noticed I had tagged it with the wrong genre.

So I right-clicked "Get Info", changed the genre, and clicked OK. iTunes says writing tag, and just sits there forever. I finally forced-quit iTunes, relaunched, but now the video, while still showing the proper size, bit-rate, and FPS in movie inspector, has no video or audio. It's annoying to say the least. Anyone have any ideas?

And I did try squeegify, but no luck. And this is on a mac.

[Cuthbert]

Funny this came up. I had a similar problem last night and have been able to duplicate it in the past. For instance, I handbraked a movie using AppleTV preset and took the resultant file and fed it through to MetaX. I tagged it and dropped it into iTunes. A few months later I noticed I had tagged it with the wrong genre.

So I right-clicked "Get Info", changed the genre, and clicked OK. iTunes says writing tag, and just sits there forever. I finally forced-quit iTunes, relaunched, but now the video, while still showing the proper size, bit-rate, and FPS in movie inspector, has no video or audio. It's annoying to say the least. Anyone have any ideas?

And I did try squeegify, but no luck. And this is on a mac.

For some reason, once you tag with MetaX and place that file into iTunes, it takes forever to make additional changes to the tags. I found this out when trying to change my artwork - changing took about 5 minutes per file. I had similar problems with changing any other tag (name, genre, etc.)

[Rich1963]

So you're saying if I had left it alone, it would have sorted itself out? It almost seemed like it was stuck, and my paranoia is that with such a large library, I get nervous iTunes might go wonky and corrupt everything. Not that I'm a newbie at this, but I do get concerned when iTunes does something differently.

It's interesting that some files get tagged instantly then and some take 5 minutes when you're changing one thing. I was always under the impression that iTunes didn't actually "tag" the file with metadata, but just stored it "alongside" the file.... Any thoughts? Always like to learn.

[MagnusVonMagnum]

So you're saying if I had left it alone, it would have sorted itself out? It almost seemed like it was stuck, and my paranoia is that with such a large library, I get nervous iTunes might go wonky and corrupt everything.

That is why you ALWAYS have a backup drive and back it all up.

[Rich1963]

Yeah, but I'm already at 3+ TB on a Drobo, so I'm currently looking at doing an off-site back-up system, like backblaze, or having a secondary Drobo at a different location using something like Crashplan. Anyways, thanks for the help all.