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MacRumors
Apr 17, 2008, 10:17 AM
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A MacRumors reader ran across a very unusual .Mac web page yesterday and was kind enough to forward it on. The page contained promotional images for Apple products, including a couple that are not yet shipping products.


Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/16/aluminum-multitouch-macbook-new-macbook-pro-and-more/)



corrado7
Apr 17, 2008, 10:19 AM
it will be interesting come june, thats for sure

it find it odd that the iphone still looks the same. However those are tiny pics so i could be wrong

Capt Underpants
Apr 17, 2008, 10:20 AM
Still have the tiger desktop, eh?

And if that's the macbook, it seems to be getting bigger. At least it won't have the cracking issue...

flopticalcube
Apr 17, 2008, 10:21 AM
Not a big fan of black keys on aluminum. Maybe it will grow on me but right now I prefer the solid color MacBooks.

vaxt
Apr 17, 2008, 10:21 AM
PowerBook G5s on tuesday?

ergdegdeg
Apr 17, 2008, 10:21 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

stagi
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
I like the current macbook pros better.

xenotaku
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
I hate the black keyboard on alum body.....ugly

Rhuantavan
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
Now, this is what I call a juicy rumor!

Capt Underpants
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
Not a big fan of black keys on aluminum. Maybe it will grow on me but right now I prefer the solid color MacBooks.

It hearkens back to the days of the Titanium Powerbook G4.

Those were good days...

dr_lha
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
Not a big fan of black keys on aluminum.
It's full circle back to the original TiBook.

sunfast
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
Still have the tiger desktop, eh?

That's the big alarm bell for me

AlexisV
Apr 17, 2008, 10:22 AM
Second pic doesn't look like a photo. Can't understand what's with the Tiger backdrops.

Gymnut
Apr 17, 2008, 10:23 AM
I sure hope there'll be more than just a black beveled edge that sets the MBP apart from the MB.

darthraige
Apr 17, 2008, 10:23 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

And how can you see that with an image that small? It's a black border around the laptop. I'm sure its there. In fact, I can confirm it's there. Apple would not get rid of it.

notnek
Apr 17, 2008, 10:23 AM
that's very interesting. now i really can't wait for june.

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:24 AM
WHOA. I freaking love it! *Pre orders even though it doesn't exist yet*

miketcool
Apr 17, 2008, 10:24 AM
Next time finish photoshopping the correct OS. Yeah, these are fake. Id put more money on them being G5s then the up and coming MacBooks and MacBook Pros. I am sure iTunes 8 would be advertised like that as well...

Spongey817
Apr 17, 2008, 10:24 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

It's there. Zoom in...

However, the Tiger desktops do seem to make this report questionable

jaypunkrawk
Apr 17, 2008, 10:24 AM
Hope those aren't "true" images. That MBP is ugly! The rounded border around the LCD screen reminds me of an old TV.

ergdegdeg
Apr 17, 2008, 10:25 AM
And how can you see that with an image that small? It's a black border around the laptop. I'm sure its there. In fact, I can confirm it's there. Apple would not get rid of it.

Yea, but I meant to criticize the authenticity of the pictures, of course not Apple. :p

northernmunky
Apr 17, 2008, 10:25 AM
at a glance....
Apple never advertise the release dates of software (i.e. iTunes 8).
Macbook Pro keyboard looks ugly.
Macbook Pro is photoshopped.
Its running Tiger, not Leopard...
"Pure Beauty, Pure Power" is photoshopped over another caption.
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.

Long story short... its faker than Britney Spears' chest.

anim8or
Apr 17, 2008, 10:25 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

If these are real, then the isight will be in the black rim around the screen much like the current imac.....

miketcool
Apr 17, 2008, 10:25 AM
It's full circle back to the original TiBook.

I think the PowerBook G3s had black plastic keys as well. They were after all BLACK.

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:26 AM
Still have the tiger desktop, eh?

And if that's the macbook, it seems to be getting bigger. At least it won't have the cracking issue...

Yeah, why don't they have the Leopard desktop? But this makes sense in terms of a design change from Apple.

Motley
Apr 17, 2008, 10:26 AM
Really weird if true.

Also, if true, that guy is so fired.

Markleshark
Apr 17, 2008, 10:26 AM
Don't all the screens on the images now have the standard Leopard background?

Edit: Too late.

Virgil-TB2
Apr 17, 2008, 10:26 AM
I sure hope there'll be more than just a black beveled edge that sets the MBP apart from the MB.The designs shown for the MacBook and MacBook Pro seem reasonable enough at first sight, but having Tiger on the screen seems to put the lie to the whole thing.

Also, if the page with the computers pictured is part of a pre-set-up for advertising materials as it seems to imply, why does it have a picture of an "old" RAID array and an "old" (current) model Mac Mini?

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:27 AM
at a glance....
Apple never advertise the release dates of software (i.e. iTunes 8).
Macbook Pro keyboard looks ugly.
Macbook Pro is photoshopped.
Its running Tiger, not Leopard...
"Pure Beauty, Pure Power" is photoshopped over another caption.
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.

I could go on.....

Oh yeah, wtf? I thought there was something wrong at first glance, but that is clearly edited. Well, we will see what goes down, hopefully in June.

jaypunkrawk
Apr 17, 2008, 10:27 AM
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.


Unless you speak British English and then it's aluminium. Haha. ;)

Mac Fly (film)
Apr 17, 2008, 10:27 AM
It's ************ cause if the new consumer MacBook is aluminum (which it will be) its keyboard will be white (i.e. not backlit). The Pro MacBooks will be the only ones black keyboards.

Adokimus
Apr 17, 2008, 10:27 AM
The "pure power" picture with the black bezel is different from the picture of the MBP shown with the iMac and Mac Pro, etc. And by looking at the speakers and size, it's clearly not the macbook in the second picture. While I think these are just mockups, the black bezel is ugly and the one without it is nice looking in my opinion. And of course that's my opinion, because the second one is nearly identical to the mockup I keep posting here.

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:28 AM
Oh by the way, June 10th is on a Tuesday everybody.

tirerim
Apr 17, 2008, 10:29 AM
Interesting. Perhaps some web development mockups that weren't supposed to be in the wild. Which could also mean that these aren't final, just that this is the info that the developers were given to work with (and if some of the stuff is six months old, say, that could explain the Tiger background -- no sense updating that until everything else is final).

Kilamite
Apr 17, 2008, 10:29 AM
Hmmm.

Need a bigger picture and different angles to justify my mind whether I like them or not.

Still, why would Apple be updating their website 8 weeks in advance..?

iZac
Apr 17, 2008, 10:30 AM
... My Sprunger just engorged

miketcool
Apr 17, 2008, 10:30 AM
Oh by the way, June 10th is on a Tuesday everybody.
1 point given to the photoshopper for getting something right in his mockups!

nostaws
Apr 17, 2008, 10:31 AM
looks legit, but something feels wrong about several of the images.

Like an above poster said, the iphone looks the same, and the mac mini form factor looks pretty big. if current rumors are true the mac mini won't look like that.

we will see.

Shasterball
Apr 17, 2008, 10:31 AM
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.

Did someone say it wasn't?

Markleshark
Apr 17, 2008, 10:31 AM
iTunes 8 though. Mmmmmm. :D

starcrossed
Apr 17, 2008, 10:32 AM
This sure is really strange. For an Apple employee to leave that info on .Mac page is fairly unimaginable as that would be immediate grounds for termination and legal woes from Apple. Plus Apple wouldn't have done this purposely as a form of a curve ball since there is no need. The other situation would be that some obtained an employee's user name and password to post pics to their account. Overall it would still interesting to get an update later to see if the page is changed or taken down.

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:33 AM
iTunes 8 though. Mmmmmm. :D

Yeah, that is going to be very interesting. What new features could it bring? But besides from the obvious, that iTunes 8 teaser looks like a Photoshop just because of how easy it is to be done. What do you guys all think?

forafireescape
Apr 17, 2008, 10:33 AM
I find this extremely hard to believe.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 10:33 AM
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.

Why does a correct spelling of a word make you think it is fake? :confused:

Regardless, I agree with the other points - especially the Tiger backgrounds. I'm not doubting that Apple is planning a design overhaul for the MacBooks and MacBook Pros and will probably include mutli-touch technology, however I don't think that this is specifically it. My vote for these images is 'fake'. :cool:

thogs_cave
Apr 17, 2008, 10:33 AM
Not a big fan of black keys on aluminum. Maybe it will grow on me but right now I prefer the solid color MacBooks.

Ditto here, but it looks fake anyway.

phalewhale
Apr 17, 2008, 10:33 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

Could you even see it on the promo pics for the new Alu iMac? Just a thought...

Anyway, I'm pretty certain it's quite easy to phake domain information ;)
The Tiger desktops (which are still there in Leopard btw) are a bit of a strange inclusion though... However, if these are genuine, could that have been done on purpose just to f with the rumour community??

elppa
Apr 17, 2008, 10:34 AM
[1] They're may going back to the aqua backgrounds because they look nicer.
[2] That MacBook looks like a MacBook Pro with a 13" screen.

I think they may sell one or two of those :D

This is exactly the product many wanted when they introduced the Air, a replacement for the 12" Powerbook G4. And the reason we didn't get it is because because it would be coming 6 months later at prices far cheaper than the 12" Powerbook ever was.

Awesome Apple. It is like they plan this stuff!

My only slight sadness is it looks like there will be no black/silver colour choice — only silver. That said I think a few 12" G4 Powebooks will be getting upgraded to intel MacBooks. :D

No iSight in the MBP??

Yes, but a black camera in a black RIM is invisible from a distance. Think Black MacBook.

Edit: I call fake, for the reasons pointed out — there is too much space either side of the keyboard for a 13" MacBook. Unless it is a 15" MacBook, to replace the 14" iBook!

leekohler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:34 AM
Hope those aren't "true" images. That MBP is ugly! The rounded border around the LCD screen reminds me of an old TV.

I hope these aren't right. I want Apple to keep making at least one plastic laptop line. They're just more durable.

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 10:35 AM
This sure is really strange. For an Apple employee to leave that info on .Mac page is fairly unimaginable as that would be immediate grounds for termination and legal woes from Apple. Plus Apple wouldn't have done this purposely as a form of a curve ball since there is no need. The other situation would be that some obtained an employee's user name and password to post pics to their account. Overall it would still interesting to get an update later to see if the page is changed or taken down.

If they are in fact real, that would be a very tough decision, just because of the simple fact that if by removing them, everyone would know they are real. But if Apple doesn't take them down, the speculation will continue, but then more and more people ill see the pictures, not knowing that they are totally real.

forafireescape
Apr 17, 2008, 10:35 AM
Really weird if true.

Also, if true, that guy is so fired.

Seriously...why would you risk it? Think of the legal crap.

jmorrison0722
Apr 17, 2008, 10:36 AM
I worked at Apple a year ago (one of the retail stores) and my @apple.com itunes account is still active. This alone, doesn't proove anything. However, I do hope it's accurate as those new laptops look sweet. Might just have to get me a new MacBook!

mcvaughan
Apr 17, 2008, 10:36 AM
Seems fake to me, but we'll see come June...

jordo
Apr 17, 2008, 10:36 AM
If this is legit... hmm. I was leaning towards a MBP but that MB looks much improved. I'm ready to see the numbers.

thogs_cave
Apr 17, 2008, 10:37 AM
It's ************ cause if the new consumer MacBook is aluminum (which it will be) its keyboard will be white (i.e. not backlit). The Pro MacBooks will be the only ones black keyboards.

Why are you sure it will be Al? That would be a real break from one of the core concepts of the iBook/MacBook, which have the plastic case for durability in rough environments like education.

jaypunkrawk
Apr 17, 2008, 10:38 AM
Ahh...those "rough" educational environments...

Willis
Apr 17, 2008, 10:40 AM
those are some slick designs. clearly the isight and tiger desktops have already been picked up on

but if this is true, then... kudos to apple.

however, it could be a ploy... just like noone saw what the actual iPhone would look like until release.. they had different designs so no one actually knew

Darkroom
Apr 17, 2008, 10:41 AM
i guess we'll all see if it's true if Apple Legal steps in...

cazlar
Apr 17, 2008, 10:41 AM
Why does a correct spelling of a word make you think it is fake? :confused:

I think the point was that Apple, being a US company, would spell the word with the (bastardised) American spelling, rather than the (proper :D) British spelling. However, one of the other images on the page involves welcoming the iPhone to Australia, so IF these images are true (a huge IF) then they are likely designed for the Australian store, in which case the spelling is not a problem.

mashinhead
Apr 17, 2008, 10:42 AM
The "pure power" picture with the black bezel is different from the picture of the MBP shown with the iMac and Mac Pro, etc. And by looking at the speakers and size, it's clearly not the macbook in the second picture. While I think these are just mockups, the black bezel is ugly and the one without it is nice looking in my opinion. And of course that's my opinion, because the second one is nearly identical to the mockup I keep posting here.

yea this is why i call fake

phalewhale
Apr 17, 2008, 10:42 AM
Totally agree.

Taste is so personal... I totally love the black keys. I just wish they'd do a gloss black mighty and black keys on the slim keyboard.

RevolutionOne
Apr 17, 2008, 10:42 AM
This is the sort of thing that was done in new store training. Having to make a mock product and advertise it (using iApps and .mac etc). Just to prove staff had product/application knowledge etc etc

happydude
Apr 17, 2008, 10:42 AM
WHOA. I freaking love it! *Pre orders even though it doesn't exist yet*

funny. i'll throw in my non-existent preorder as well!! i'm looking for a new laptop and am waiting for june. it's going to be a long may!!

offwidafairies
Apr 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
well i got all excited (even though im not in the market for a new computer for at least another 2 or 3 years).

but then after reading a lot of these posts im convinced its fake

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
The menu bar on the top of the pages shown does not match apple.com's bar.

Apple's site: STORE - MAC - IPOD +ITUNES - IPHONE - DOWNLOADS - SUPPORT

FAKED SITE - STORE - ITUNES - SUPPORT

HFD Whalers
Apr 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
I just bought a new 24 inch Imac and love it. However being a college kid laptops are almost essential. I have been looking to upgrade my old macbook pro (bought the day it came out, so about 2+ years old). It has seen better days. I no longer need as much power as the current macbook pros sport with the IMac but don't like the plastic design of the macbooks, especially since its not rare for me to drop and beat up on my mbp. Hope this pans out, an aluminum macbook would be awesome.

jeroensikma
Apr 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
I can see the Macbook being like that on the picture, but no way a Macbook Pro is ugly like that. It is so clearly shopped.

btw. screw all those people who doesn't like the black keys on aluminium!

macnerd77
Apr 17, 2008, 10:43 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

The iSight is hardly visible in the aluminum imac. It is hidden in the black bezel around the screen.

Markleshark
Apr 17, 2008, 10:44 AM
The menu bar on the top of the pages shown does not match apple.com's bar.

Apple's site: STORE - MAC - IPOD +ITUNES - IPHONE - DOWNLOADS - SUPPORT

FAKED SITE - STORE - ITUNES - SUPPORT

I'm going to pretend you didn't post that.

t^3
Apr 17, 2008, 10:44 AM
I would think that the new MBP would get the MB's magnetic latch, but if this is real, it looks like the old latch is still there.

indie1982
Apr 17, 2008, 10:45 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

I'm guessing it would be set into the black surround like it is on the iMac's, if the images are real that is.

gkarris
Apr 17, 2008, 10:45 AM
fake, fake, fake...

and the desktop doesn't even have any icons on it...

probably a high school marketing project...

I guess they don't call this site MacRUMORS for nothing.

lofight
Apr 17, 2008, 10:46 AM
could someone give the link? :D

Chansey
Apr 17, 2008, 10:46 AM
It's BS

Sky Blue
Apr 17, 2008, 10:47 AM
Oh by the way, June 10th is on a Tuesday everybody.

and it's Keynote day.

mashinhead
Apr 17, 2008, 10:47 AM
fake, fake, fake...

and the desktop doesn't even have any icons on it...

probably a high school marketing project...

I guess they don't call this site MacRUMORS for nothing.

the desktop image is not LEOPARD if thats not fake i don't know what is.

Kilamite
Apr 17, 2008, 10:48 AM
MacBook looks like it doesn't have a DVD-drive, unless they kept it at the side.

I hope it does.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 10:49 AM
I think the point was that Apple, being a US company, would spell the word with the (bastardised) American spelling, rather than the (proper :D) British spelling. However, one of the other images on the page involves welcoming the iPhone to Australia, so IF these images are true (a huge IF) then they are likely designed for the Australian store, in which case the spelling is not a problem.

Ah, gotcha, that makes sense. ;)

MacBoobsPro
Apr 17, 2008, 10:49 AM
Apart from the text being clearly photoshopped over something else it worried me that no one else seems to have noticed that the corners on the lid of the MPB are quite rounded where on the base they are infact much less so. If you closed the lid you would end up with the bottom sticking out from the top by some way.

LagunaSol
Apr 17, 2008, 10:49 AM
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.

I think you meant spelled incorrectly.

And Aluminium is clearly an aluminum + titanium alloy. Or is it aluminum + adamantium? Whoa... :D

dr_lha
Apr 17, 2008, 10:50 AM
I think the PowerBook G3s had black plastic keys as well. They were after all BLACK.
I meant of course, the silver body-black keyboard was full circle. :D

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 10:50 AM
I'm going to pretend you didn't post that.

And why is that?

DizzyRose
Apr 17, 2008, 10:50 AM
Well it says on the page with the Mac images that the MBP is on the 'Redesign pillar'...

Maybe it's not the final image?

Best,
Rose.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 10:50 AM
MacBook looks like it doesn't have a DVD-drive, unless they kept it at the side.

I hope it does.

You'd think Apple would keep the MacBook Air as the only machine without a DVD drive - it would be rather pointless to strip it out of the MacBook as well in my opinion.

jaruss
Apr 17, 2008, 10:52 AM
I know we all love to speculate and dream, but this type of posting feels like it would be more appropriate on Page 2. Rather than drive up everyone's expectations.

bobbleheadbob
Apr 17, 2008, 10:52 AM
I'll believe it when I see it. Which is to say, I don't.

techmonkey
Apr 17, 2008, 10:52 AM
Still have the tiger desktop, eh?

And if that's the macbook, it seems to be getting bigger. At least it won't have the cracking issue...

LOL. These were probably fan mockups from a year or so ago. Apple is pretty good at keeping things a secret, I highly doubt they would leak something like this on a .mac account.

gkarris
Apr 17, 2008, 10:53 AM
You'd think Apple would keep the MacBook Air as the only machine without a DVD drive - it would be rather pointless to strip it out of the MacBook as well in my opinion.

Possible - a price drop to $999 and an external drive... or just greater margins for Apple (if it keeps the same price points).

The iMacs went up in base price.

thefunkymunky
Apr 17, 2008, 10:53 AM
I'm gonna say this is all real. Everybody did say that the fat nano pics where fake remember. ;):p

Oh and isn't there meant to be a newer Intel chip out around June time. So a case redesign of the MBP isn't entirely wrong. It is long overdue remember.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 10:53 AM
I think you meant spelled incorrectly.

And Aluminium is clearly an aluminum + titanium alloy. Or is it aluminum + adamantium? Whoa... :D

Um, no, "Aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium)" is indeed a correct spelling of the element in question. It's not a made up alloy or anything else. Did you perhaps incorrectly think that "Aluminum" is the only accepted spelling of the element? If so, consider yourself having learned something today. :D :cool:

izzle22
Apr 17, 2008, 10:54 AM
Who has an $850.00 iTunes store credit?!?!

gkarris
Apr 17, 2008, 10:54 AM
Um, no, "Aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium)" is indeed a correct spelling of the element in question. It's not a made up alloy or anything else. Did you perhaps incorrectly think that "Aluminum" is the only accepted spelling of the element? If so, consider yourself having learned something today. :D :cool:

Is that anything like Liutenant being prounounced "Leftanant"? :eek:

You English need to learn to speak American... ;)

ruckus
Apr 17, 2008, 10:55 AM
it will be interesting come june, thats for sure

it find it odd that the iphone still looks the same. However those are tiny pics so i could be wrong

I'll be surprised if the iphone looks any different. There isn't enough hardware change to require the iphone to be redesigned. If millions can be saved by not redesigning the case, i'm sure they'll opt for that.

I also agree, I really don't want the keyboard on the macbook pros to change. I know they will, but I don't want them to.

bdkennedy1
Apr 17, 2008, 10:55 AM
I think it's interesting that Apple "accidentally" leaks information like this almost every time.

So what are we at now, 8, 10 times they've done this in the past 10 years?

I hope iTunes 8 has some significant changes. It's showing it's age and I'm bored with it.

Creibold
Apr 17, 2008, 10:55 AM
2001 called, and it wants it's Tibook back.

crees!
Apr 17, 2008, 10:56 AM
June 10th, my birthday. Doesn't get better than that!

avigalante
Apr 17, 2008, 10:57 AM
2001 called, and it wants it's Tibook back.

+ 1

Was just going to say that too! But yeah, it does seem as though the old Titanium Book is back.

indie1982
Apr 17, 2008, 10:57 AM
Who has an $850.00 iTunes store credit?!?!

Apple staff ;o)

psychofreak
Apr 17, 2008, 10:57 AM
I'm gonna say this is all real. Everybody did say that the fat nano pics where fake remember. ;):p

Oh and isn't there meant to be a newer Intel chip out around June time. So a case redesign of the MBP isn't entirely wrong. It is long overdue remember.

The new Montevina platform would make it a great time to redesign the MBP.

chabig
Apr 17, 2008, 10:58 AM
No iSight in the MBP??

Of course it has one, just like the current iMac. It's behind the black bezel.

mr.steevo
Apr 17, 2008, 10:58 AM
Um, no, "Aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium)" is indeed a correct spelling of the element in question. It's not a made up alloy or anything else. Did you perhaps incorrectly think that "Aluminum" is the only accepted spelling of the element? If so, consider yourself having learned something today. :D :cool:

Hi,

And "Rumours" vs "Rumors"

s.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 10:58 AM
Is that anything like Liutenant being prounounced "Leftanant"? :eek:

You English need to learn to speak American... ;)

#1 - I'm Canadian

#2 - You Americans need to learn how to spell
(it's "Lieutenant" in case you didn't figure it out...)

:p ;)

Seriously though, back to the topic at hand, although I think these images themselves are fake, I could easily see Apple updating the portable line at WWDC. I just don't think what we're seeing here is what the end result will be. ;)

MacBoobsPro
Apr 17, 2008, 10:59 AM
Is that anything like Liutenant being prounounced "Leftanant"? :eek:

You English need to learn to speak American... ;)

You mean lieutenant?

Darkroom
Apr 17, 2008, 11:00 AM
yeah the tiger desktop is kinda a giveaway... too bad, i really like them... except for the MacBook Pro still having the latch...

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:01 AM
Looks like the ******* mockups that are floating around here. But I remember the rant I made about the messed up Alu keyboard that was rumored, and turned out to be true.

I guess Ive is looking on this forum for his design ideas. Next thing you know we will have a cheese wedge iMac and and a MBP with a rounded screen bezel and a square bottom case, since mockup artists can't keep things consistent.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:01 AM
yeah the tiger desktop is kinda a giveaway... too bad, i really like them... except for the MacBook Pro still having the latch...

Tough to tell if there is a built-in iSight in that image as well....

PowerFullMac
Apr 17, 2008, 11:01 AM
This is fake, its a @apple.com account because its probably a Apple employee messing around, I doubt that is real, especially as its talking about new stuff for 2008 but it has the Tiger background.

tmelvin
Apr 17, 2008, 11:02 AM
I think the idea of an Alu MB makes sense. Apple got rid of the white iMac in favor of a Alu case, so why would they stop there? I think it'll look something like the MBA/MBP; same thickness as now, but all alu. I'd prefer the white keys like their new keyboards instead of black...

Mykbibby
Apr 17, 2008, 11:03 AM
fake, fake, fake...

and the desktop doesn't even have any icons on it...

probably a high school marketing project...

I guess they don't call this site MacRUMORS for nothing.

Didn't you already post that?

I'm honestly not sure. Its possible that this is from an earlier stage in development. However, the "Pure Beauty, Pure Power" being photohopped over other text with the black matte not reaching the edges and not a magnetic latch, and the advertisement for software, and the not redesigned iPhone... ok maybe I am sure.

tba03
Apr 17, 2008, 11:04 AM
ho noes, the MBP got the ****** keys of the MB/MBA, stupid apple

Zwhaler
Apr 17, 2008, 11:04 AM
Does anyone else think that the words behind the top words in the MBP pic say the exact same thing? But just in a different font or something.

Rot'nApple
Apr 17, 2008, 11:04 AM
at a glance....
Apple never advertise the release dates of software (i.e. iTunes 8).
Macbook Pro keyboard looks ugly.
Macbook Pro is photoshopped.
Its running Tiger, not Leopard...
"Pure Beauty, Pure Power" is photoshopped over another caption.
'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.

Long story short... its faker than Britney Spears' breast implants.

"'Aluminium' is spelled correctly." Since your other observations were to the opposite of what is right, did you meant "aluminium' is spelled incorrectly?

If so...

Found this when I googled "define: aluminium". Came back with this, Aluminium: An alternate spelling of Aluminum.

In which case your point is valid and that, "'Aluminium' is spelled correctly.":D

w00master
Apr 17, 2008, 11:05 AM
I personally think these are real and are preliminary mockups. As for "no way Macbooks would go Aluminum," well... check this out:

http://tinyurl.com/5nczdp

w00master

Lonon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:06 AM
Why these are fake.

1) The background image on either laptop is from Tiger, not Leopard.
2) I've already seen the MacBook Pro mockup with the black bezel and it is this.
3) The image about the iTunes 8 teaser... come on. Why on earth would Apple recycle the same image from 2007 an use it for some cheap publicity for iTunes?
4) In the other image, the top bar of the Apple website is too short.
5) The banner of the Macbook Pro picture has letter behind (I see a "p" or something like that)

And even if this was not enough, I think the pictures in the Apple website look always way more cooler than this.

So, no, I don't think this is remotely true. But I do think the next MacBook will be aluminum. Just because the iMac and the iPod are, both consumer products. (Like the Macbook)

twoodcc
Apr 17, 2008, 11:06 AM
wow! and June 10th is my birthday! hope this turns out to be true

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:06 AM
I think the idea of an Alu MB makes sense. Apple got rid of the white iMac in favor of a Alu case, so why would they stop there?

On the one hand it does make sense - as you say, Apple took this design path with the iMac. On the other hand, the MacBook is a portable, and plastic does tend to be a little more durable. On the third hand, the MacBook Pros are portable and non-plastic, so perhaps that isn't an issue after all and we will indeed see Alu across the line. ;)

Aznsensation45
Apr 17, 2008, 11:08 AM
OMG!!! 32GB iphone?!?!??! I would be first in line to buy that!!! hope this is true!

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:08 AM
Does anyone else think that the words behind the top words in the MBP pic say the exact same thing? But just in a different font or something.

It's because the looser designer just pasted an iMac screen on a MacBook Pro bottom case.

And I am noticing all the young, "Cool, a MacBook Pro, iMac Frankenstein monster computer! That's what I always wanted! I don't need performance gains, just a cool looking machine with even more USB ports and Touch features that work for FaceBook!" are around supporting these God awful designs.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:09 AM
wow! and June 10th is my birthday! hope this turns out to be true

One way or the other I'm sure Apple will have some nice things to offer you on your birthday. ;) :)

Memzee
Apr 17, 2008, 11:09 AM
OK.. MacRumors' credibility just went through the floor.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134&page=8

Post #178 ..

We appreciate what you do.. but this'll make me think twice about believing stuff on the site.. and a front page story too! Shameful.

tuc
Apr 17, 2008, 11:09 AM
Has Apple touted "Multi-Touch" in mac ads (not iPhone/iPod ads) before? That doesn't sound right to me.

I hope it's real because I want to see the MacMini form factor survive intact (with improved innards), but it just doesn't look real to me.

The fans are clamoring for an aluminum MacBook, so perhaps this is fan-created. I prefer the plastic ones myself, so if it's real I'm glad I recently bought one.

carlitofox
Apr 17, 2008, 11:10 AM
itunes 8 .........

iphone apps store !!!!

movies & renting international ???? (come on uk )

you tube intergration ?????(down load your fav clips)

BEATLES built in lol:D:D:D

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:10 AM
It's because the looser designer just pasted an iMac screen on a MacBook Pro bottom case.

And I am noticing all the young, "Cool, a MacBook Pro, iMac Frankenstein monster computer! That's what I always wanted! I don't need performance gains, just a cool looking machine with even more USB ports and Touch features that work for FaceBook!" are around supporting these God awful designs.

I hear you, unfortunately like it or not they appear to represent a good chunk of the market these days... :o

shadowmoses
Apr 17, 2008, 11:11 AM
Definite fake's but truth be told the real one's which will surely come out this summer will probably look almost identical....

ShadoW

Mykbibby
Apr 17, 2008, 11:11 AM
On the one hand it does make sense - as you say, Apple took this design path with the iMac. On the other hand, the MacBook is a portable, and plastic does tend to be a little more durable. On the third hand, the MacBook Pros are portable and non-plastic, so perhaps that isn't an issue after all and we will indeed see Alu across the line. ;)

Steve doesn't care... he just wants it to look pretty :rolleyes:

I think they should use aluminum. But not the way they did in this image. I want the cool redesign Apple Insider was describing... with some elements of stainless steel :p

mactester09
Apr 17, 2008, 11:12 AM
I would say that its a fake...why would they even think about using the word "Power"? They quit calling them powerbooks and powermacs for a reason...

MikeTheC
Apr 17, 2008, 11:12 AM
Is it just me, or does that new MacBook remind anyone else here of the TiBook of several years ago?

DizzyRose
Apr 17, 2008, 11:12 AM
Has anyone noticed that the MacBook Air's image has a Tiger wallpaper too?

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 11:13 AM
OK.. MacRumors' credibility just went through the floor.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134&page=8

Post #178 ..

We appreciate what you do.. but this'll make me think twice about believing stuff on the site.. and a front page story too! Shameful.

Maybe it was MacRumors who "invented" so as to attract people to the site.

Bact to 9to5mac.com for me!

KingYaba
Apr 17, 2008, 11:13 AM
Looks hideous with that thick black line around the screen.

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:13 AM
I hear you, unfortunately like it or not they appear to represent a good chunk of the market these days... :o

Tell me about it, they are the market, and Apple knows it and has been marketing to them for a while sans the high end MBP and Mac Pro.

I keep thinking about the iPhone, and how many people bought that even though it couldn't even make voice calls all that well. It was "Cool" looking and fancy.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:13 AM
Steve doesn't care... he just wants it to look pretty :rolleyes:

I think they should use aluminum. But not the way they did in this image. I want the cool redesign Apple Insider was describing... with some elements of stainless steel :p

I agree - I am confident we will see a distinct design change for the MacBooks and MacBook Pros - just not what has been posted in this story. ;)

psychofreak
Apr 17, 2008, 11:13 AM
Steve doesn't care... he just wants it to look pretty :rolleyes:

I think they should use aluminum. But not the way they did in this image. I want the cool redesign Apple Insider was describing... with some elements of stainless steel :p

The Macbook is quite focused on the education market, where users often carry their Macs around a lot in rucksacks and they're quite bashed. This is not so true of the MBP.

ltcol266845
Apr 17, 2008, 11:14 AM
Not a big fan of black keys on aluminum. Maybe it will grow on me but right now I prefer the solid color MacBooks.

Agreed, but I have a feeling Apple would want to make it look the same as the MBA and we wont have a choice.

xUKHCx
Apr 17, 2008, 11:14 AM
OK.. MacRumors' credibility just went through the floor.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134&page=8

Post #178 ..

We appreciate what you do.. but this'll make me think twice about believing stuff on the site.. and a front page story too! Shameful.

Err you do realise that is not actually the same design or picture :confused:, this website is MacRumors and there was a lot more on this website than just a picture of the MBP. And if you read the article no where does it state that it is real, and even suggests that they might just be mockups but the additional information adds some credibility to the website in question.

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:14 AM
Has anyone noticed that the MacBook Air's image has a Tiger wallpaper too?

Not anywhere I go. Even the Cinema displays have a Leopard background.

BRLawyer
Apr 17, 2008, 11:14 AM
PowerBook G5s on tuesday?

In other words, these rumors make absolutely NO sense and are just wishful thinking...Apple has JUST released new MBPs, and in no way we're gonna see anything new in that line until at least January 2009...

Again, it's just good photoshop; no new MBPs anytime soon.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:15 AM
Tell me about it, they are the market, and Apple knows it and has been marketing to them for a while sans the high end MBP and Mac Pro.

I keep thinking about the iPhone, and how many people bought that even though it couldn't even make voice calls all that well. It was "Cool" looking and fancy.

Yep, you hit the nail on the head. Ah well, business is business, and many times the best decisions are not the ones that are ultimately made (either by the company, by the consumer or both!)

hob
Apr 17, 2008, 11:16 AM
OK.. MacRumors' credibility just went through the floor.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134&page=8

Post #178 ..

We appreciate what you do.. but this'll make me think twice about believing stuff on the site.. and a front page story too! Shameful.
I agree. This is pretty low, guys...

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:16 AM
Has anyone noticed that the MacBook Air's image has a Tiger wallpaper too?

No, I have never seen the MacBook Air advertised with Tiger wallpaper - please provide a link.

L3X
Apr 17, 2008, 11:16 AM
It's a ploy to throw us all off. I don't buy it.

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:16 AM
I want to believe it, but Leopard has been out too long for these pictures to be real. I call bluff, based on the screen backgrounds. Other than that, they could be real. But the Apple designers have been using Leopard backgrounds for more than 6 months now. EXTREMELY unlikely these are real on that basis.

Whoever photoshopped these made one critical mistake or I might have believed him.

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:18 AM
No, I have never seen the MacBook Air advertised with Tiger wallpaper - please provide a link.

I just saw the site link. He means on the same pages as the other bad mockups.

But did anyone else note that they had a photo of an Xserve RAID on there, and it was discontinued months ago?

Grimace
Apr 17, 2008, 11:18 AM
Apple discontinued the XServe RAID -- it is pictured.

I too call a fake.

DizzyRose
Apr 17, 2008, 11:18 AM
Not anywhere I go. Even the Cinema displays have a Leopard background.

Look on the second full image of the site. It shows all of the Macs, except for the new Macbook Pro.

On the bottom left image, it's the MacBook Air with a Tiger wallpaper...

tjcampbell
Apr 17, 2008, 11:18 AM
Aluminum sucks. And if they are trying to give us this "Green" BS, then, well it's just BS.

tivoli2
Apr 17, 2008, 11:20 AM
If these designs prove correct, I'm disappointed with the black surround on the MBP - very 70's (and not in a good way... but then again, is there a good way to refer to 70's design? hmmm...) from what I can see in these small pictures.

That said, I think it's a fake, for what it's worth.

audioadrenaline
Apr 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
Another nail in the coffin for this rumor: The MacBook Pro has the shiny black bezel, which means by default, the screen will be glossy: A lot of MPB users favor the matte screen...

akm3
Apr 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
Why are you sure it will be Al? That would be a real break from one of the core concepts of the iBook/MacBook, which have the plastic case for durability in rough environments like education.

That is marketing spiel. They have plastic cases because they liked how plastic cases look and they designed plastic cases. Then a marketing guy came up with a 'functional' reason they have plastic cases - "Durable for your crotch-fruit at school!"

It isn't the other way around at Apple.

With the aluminum (aluminIum for my wife and other Brit friends) case, the marketing people will come up with something like "It is aluminum for light weight and rugged durability, for your crotch-fruit at school!"

lookmark
Apr 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
Man, you people.

Dunno if they're real or not, but people working in making promotional materials swap out desktop backgrounds in and out all the time.

And if someone was making as polished a fake as this one don't you think they'd be be smart enough to drop in a Leopard background?

They look realish to me (the MB and MBP look exactly like what I'd expect the next rev to look like), and the apple.com address that MR notes is at the very least intriguing... but it's hard to know for sure just how in the loop this person at Apple is. We'll find out soon whether Apple shuts down the site ASAP.

What I find most interesting is iTunes 8. iTunes hasn't received a major update for a long, long time - I'd love to see what Apple has been chewing on, and especially if they've been able to come up with a clever way to simplify and unify iTunes' rapidly increasing number of functions (some of which it frankly doesn't handle all that well - like organizing and playing videos) and overall kitchen-sink quality.

A new version of iTunes to go along with the new App Store would be perfect timing.

EagerDragon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
Are you going to get one of those letters from Apple asking you to reveal your sources?

False or not Apple may want to fry this guy and they are likely to want to know his .Mac ID.

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
In other words, these rumors make absolutely NO sense and are just wishful thinking...Apple has JUST released new MBPs, and in no way we're gonna see anything new in that line until at least January 2009...

Again, it's just good photoshop; no new MBPs anytime soon.

Have you forgotten the fairly recent MR front-page posting suggesting that Intel is going to be pushing Apple to upgrade their computers far more often now? For that reason, I think it's highly likely we'll see new MBP fairly soon. There's plenty of suggestions that Intel forced Apple to make the most recent MBP upgrade. A design upgrade in the near future is quite probable.

Again though, I agree with you that these pics are fake, but because of the Tiger backgrounds, and nothing else.

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:21 AM
Whoever photoshopped these made one critical mistake or I might have believed him.

They made much more mistakes than that.

- Bezel inconsistencies,
- Keyboard edge is jacked up
- Bezel is far too large, even for a 17"
- Black IR sensor is in the center ??? (how could they have gotten that one wrong.....? Oh yeah, in their failed attempt to do something different, they just moved the sensor over to the side like the MBP, just because they could and it would look different. :rolleyes:)

HiRez
Apr 17, 2008, 11:22 AM
What seems odd to to me is that they're changing the styling of the pro laptop to look like the consumer desktop, and changing the consumer laptop to look like the previous pro laptop. Apple likes their little product division boxes, so this doesn't feel right to me. Making the MB look like the iMac would make more sense to me.

spooky mulder
Apr 17, 2008, 11:23 AM
I think that the macbook looks good but i would like to see a backlit keyboard for it, what are the chances that they will throw that on and make it that much better? Otherwise i think the black keyboard looks good. I am buying a black keyboard cover for my whitebook in a few days.

but i also have to say that these look kind fake.:eek:

Digital Skunk
Apr 17, 2008, 11:23 AM
And if someone was making as polished a fake as this one don't you think they'd be be smart enough to drop in a Leopard background?

NOPE!

This is why high school students shouldn't use Photoshop to do mockups that should be done on a different program.

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:23 AM
I just saw the site link. He means on the same pages as the other bad mockups.

But did anyone else note that they had a photo of an Xserve RAID on there, and it was discontinued months ago?

Oh yeah, I see - that makes this whole thing even more unlikely since the MacBook Airs would never have had Tiger on them in the first place.

Also, in regards to your second point...

Apple discontinued the XServe RAID -- it is pictured.

I too call a fake.

Yup. :cool:

arn
Apr 17, 2008, 11:24 AM
OK.. MacRumors' credibility just went through the floor.
....
We appreciate what you do.. but this'll make me think twice about believing stuff on the site.. and a front page story too! Shameful.

How do you explain the live iTunes account and password with an @apple.com domain?

I don't claim them to be real, but they were posted by Apple or someone close to Apple.

arn

imwoblin
Apr 17, 2008, 11:25 AM
Spell out and say Aluminum backwards... Munimula!

CaryMacGuy
Apr 17, 2008, 11:26 AM
We shall see what happens...

Of course the debate is on whether or not these are real.
Apple Legal will make that determination.

Another thing is that I have seen a lot of debate over the design. Despite what we think of it now, when Steve gets up there and announces it, we will all think it is cool. After all we are Mac fans (Steve Jobs fans).

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:26 AM
Spell out and say Aluminum backwards... Munimula!

Thanks for that valuable contribution to the discussion... :rolleyes:

:p ;)

Surely
Apr 17, 2008, 11:26 AM
So....um....... if this doesn't qualify as a Page 2 story, what does?:confused:

This shouldn't be a main page article, there is too much evidence that leans towards the fake side. The Tiger backgrounds? That iTunes ad? The iPhone that hasn't changed- design changes aside, wouldn't you think that they would have at least included the App Store icon on the screen? The British spelling of aluminum? Too much wrong to think that it's right.


/I still like it here though :D

Lonon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:26 AM
OK.. MacRumors' credibility just went through the floor.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=467134&page=8

Post #178 ..

We appreciate what you do.. but this'll make me think twice about believing stuff on the site.. and a front page story too! Shameful.

Yes!
That's exactly what I was referring to.

So, yeah, it's obviously fake. Fake Fake FAKE.

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 11:27 AM
How do you explain the live iTunes account and password with an @apple.com domain?

arn

Help me here. Who would email out, to a public website, a website with a live account? Plus, how do you stumble across someone elses live account?

WildCardPix
Apr 17, 2008, 11:27 AM
If anyone at Apple is reading this, I would only ask that you still maintain an anti-glare, true-color monitor option for your MBPs for those of us that rely on them for image/video editing for our businesses. Thank you.

~David

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:27 AM
They made much more mistakes than that.

- Bezel inconsistencies,
- Keyboard edge is jacked up
- Bezel is far too large, even for a 17"
- Black IR sensor is in the center ??? (how could they have gotten that one wrong.....? Oh yeah, in their failed attempt to do something different, they just moved the sensor over to the side like the MBP, just because they could and it would look different. :rolleyes:)

Well, I guess you're right then. ;) Especially the 17-inch MBP screen. As if the MBP-17-inch wasn't big enough. :rolleyes:

Anyway though, these are clearly photoshopped by a single human, or there would have been much fewer mistakes. But the Tiger background mistake stands out most of all. I could tell these images were fake in two seconds flat.

lookmark
Apr 17, 2008, 11:28 AM
How do you explain the live iTunes account and password with an @apple.com domain?

I don't claim them to be real, but they were posted by Apple or someone close to Apple.

++. Give MR some credit here. These aren't some random mock-up images. They're from someone with an @apple.com address.

imwoblin
Apr 17, 2008, 11:28 AM
Thanks for that valuable contribution to the discussion... :rolleyes:

:p ;)

You're welcome! Anything to lighten up the knuckleheads who keep thinking this is a spelling and grammar class!

jarenado
Apr 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
What seems odd to to me is that they're changing the styling of the pro laptop to look like the consumer desktop, and changing the consumer laptop to look like the previous pro laptop. Apple likes their little product division boxes, so this doesn't feel right to me. Making the MB look like the iMac would make more sense to me.

you are spot on with this one, I think this is the most telling indictment of this photo.

Shadow
Apr 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
One way or the other I'm sure Apple will have some nice things to offer you on your birthday. ;) :)
Last year WWDC was on my birthday :)

...as well as a Maths exam :p

My friends birthday was the same day as the iMac aluminium intro.

On topic: probably fake. Are Apple really that stupid to post products on .mac?

mdriftmeyer
Apr 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
Xserve RAID still around, eh?

mox123
Apr 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
i hope the new MBP doesn't look like that....if so, i'm so glad i got the last generation of a classic design...

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:29 AM
How do you explain the live iTunes account and password with an @apple.com domain?

I don't claim them to be real, but they were posted by Apple or someone close to Apple.

arn

Again, these things can be photoshopped. Unless you yourself can verify with surety that this guy is real and at Apple, I'll say it's your average Joe who did some photoshopping. And even if it is by someone at Apple, I don't believe these images.

tivoli2
Apr 17, 2008, 11:30 AM
Despite what we think of it now, when Steve gets up there and announces it, we will all think it is cool. After all we are Mac fans (Steve Jobs fans).

Bah! Steve can tell me it's cool all he wants, I'll still think that black surround is ugly. Were he to give me one, then I'd think it was just as groovy as all get out. ;)

xUKHCx
Apr 17, 2008, 11:31 AM
Again, these things can be photoshopped. Unless you yourself can verify with surety that this guy is real and at Apple, I'll say it's your average Joe who did some photoshopping. And even if it is by someone at Apple, I don't believe these images.

You can photoshop itunes account information :confused:

Virgil-TB2
Apr 17, 2008, 11:31 AM
You're welcome! Anything to lighten up the knuckleheads who keep thinking this is a spelling and grammar class!Just so you won't be disappointed ...

The poster spelled "Aluminium" wrong actually. ;)

rtdunham
Apr 17, 2008, 11:31 AM
Help me here. Who would email out, to a public website, a website with a live account? Plus, how do you stumble across someone elses live account?

for conspiracy theorists: maybe the account owner sent it to Arn, and he's helping conceal the source's role. The missing iSight, btw, is on the grassy knoll.

EagerDragon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:31 AM
the desktop image is not LEOPARD if thats not fake i don't know what is.

They are going back to Tiger, Leopard had too many bugs so they are shipping Tiger 11.4.12 on all new systems.

arn
Apr 17, 2008, 11:32 AM
Help me here. Who would email out, to a public website, a website with a live account? Plus, how do you stumble across someone elses live account?

See this image:

iTunes login/password blurred out. That was/is a valid something@apple.com account on iTunes.

The person who submitted the URL was not the author, but found it.

arn

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:33 AM
You can photoshop itunes account information :confused:

Uhhh... That's what I was saying. :rolleyes:

~Shard~
Apr 17, 2008, 11:33 AM
You're welcome! Anything to lighten up the knuckleheads who keep thinking this is a spelling and grammar class!

Yeah, those bastards.... :D

It is always interesting to see how passionate and defensive people become over stories like this. ;)

++. Give MR some credit here. These aren't some random mock-up images. They're from someone with an @apple.com address.

I agree. Even though I believe these are fake, I am not blaming or dissing MacRumors at all for posting this. These are the types of rumors I enjoy reading about and discussing, and in my mind arn and crew are just doing their job. Let's not become too critical of the site...

jawporta
Apr 17, 2008, 11:34 AM
I worked for Apple, you are not aloud to put anything on your .Mac account that has anything to do with Apple.

Done Deal Pal.

arn
Apr 17, 2008, 11:34 AM
Again, these things can be photoshopped. Unless you yourself can verify with surety that this guy is real and at Apple, I'll say it's your average Joe who did some photoshopping. And even if it is by someone at Apple, I don't believe these images.

You can't photoshop a valid iTunes account with an Apple.com email address.

Please provide me with a valid login name something@apple.com and password for the iTunes Store. If you can, I will agree with you.

arn

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 11:35 AM
See this image:
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/04/16/235503-new3.jpg

iTunes login/password blurred out. That was/is a valid something@apple.com account on iTunes.

The person who submitted the URL was not the author, but found it.

arn


Why not just email the link? How come no one else has found those pictures?

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:36 AM
I agree. Even though I believe these are fake, I am not blaming or dissing MacRumors at all for posting this. These are the types of rumors I enjoy reading about and discussing, and in my mind arn and crew are just doing their job. Let's not become too critical of the site...

I don't think any of us are saying it's MR's problem, we just think these images are fake. I support MR, and if we didn't have rumors like this one, MR wouldn't exist.

xUKHCx
Apr 17, 2008, 11:36 AM
Uhhh... That's what I was saying. :rolleyes:

See the post above yours, for further clarification

The information on the website is not just a picture but verifiable information (text)

From the article

the web page also listed a valid "@apple.com" iTunes Store account and password. Due to the live account information listed, we are not linking directly to the site, but have provided some screenshots below.

Or better explained:

You can't photoshop a valid iTunes account with an Apple.com email address.

Please provide me with a valid login name something@apple.com and password for the iTunes Store. If you can, I will agree with you.

arn

Clive At Five
Apr 17, 2008, 11:37 AM
I guess Ive is looking on this forum for his design ideas...

If that's the case,

http://www.worth1000.com/web/media/25856/G4small.jpghttp://images.smalldog.com/apple/cube_open.jpghttp://images.businessweek.com/di/idea_winners/2001/B9021.jpghttp://www.innoq.com/blog/st/cube.jpg

Need I go on?

-Clive

tivoli2
Apr 17, 2008, 11:37 AM
You can't photoshop a valid iTunes account with an Apple.com email address.

Please provide me with a valid login name something@apple.com and password for the iTunes Store. If you can, I will agree with you.

arn

I apologize for my obtuseness, but I don't understand the significance of the "something@apple.com" & iTunes account.

arn
Apr 17, 2008, 11:38 AM
Why not just email the link? How come no one else has found those pictures?

How many times do I have to say it?

It lists a live, active iTunes account and password. I consider posting someone's username and password to be poor form.

arn

jshbckr
Apr 17, 2008, 11:39 AM
Don't all Apple retail employees get @apple.com e-mail addresses?

Who is to say this wasn't a simple retail employee who made some mock ups and happens to have a ton of money in iTunes credit?

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 11:39 AM
See the post above yours, for further clarification

The information on the website is not just a picture but verifiable information (text)

From the article



Or better explained:


How do you know this is verifiable information? Because MR told you it was?

jonny
Apr 17, 2008, 11:40 AM
All of these new touch devices are going to create a whole new breed of repetitive strain syndromes... They're going to baffle doctors and physiotherapists. On a level similar to the problems those supercool sunglasses caused in The Jerk.

Oh and Arn, I think I'd hold off on purchasing that bidet if I were you...

dambro1978
Apr 17, 2008, 11:40 AM
This time macrumors is close to being hilarious if not ridiculous.

jahsavi
Apr 17, 2008, 11:40 AM
Still have the tiger desktop, eh?

And if that's the macbook, it seems to be getting bigger. At least it won't have the cracking issue...

I completely agree that the "tiger" desktop gives it away to being fake. I have friends that work for apple retail and they have an "apple" email. In fact everyone that works for apple even the small guys have apple emails. Zoom in on the images tell me if you think photoshop was used :)

Shasterball
Apr 17, 2008, 11:41 AM
Um, no, "Aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium)" is indeed a correct spelling of the element in question. It's not a made up alloy or anything else. Did you perhaps incorrectly think that "Aluminum" is the only accepted spelling of the element? If so, consider yourself having learned something today. :D :cool:

You beat me to this response!

Virgil-TB2
Apr 17, 2008, 11:42 AM
I worked for Apple, you are not aloud to put anything on your .Mac account that has anything to do with Apple.

Done Deal Pal.As a .Mac user myself, the most disturbing part about this whole debacle is the idea that "some guy" was able to access .Mac pages of other users that not only display their stuff but also conveniently list their password, iTunes balance, and other personal information.

If that is even possible, then .Mac has a rather serious security problem no? And isn't that more of a page 1 story as opposed to the page 2 story that this "leak" is?

It makes me think the whole story about "finding" these pages is bogus or some kind of cover story.

Beric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:43 AM
You can't photoshop a valid iTunes account with an Apple.com email address.

Please provide me with a valid login name something@apple.com and password for the iTunes Store. If you can, I will agree with you.

arn

I'm sorry, call me blind or something, but after carefully examining that image, I don't see any "@apple.com" blurred out. :confused:

Surely
Apr 17, 2008, 11:43 AM
As a .Mac user myself, the most disturbing part about this whole debacle is the idea that "some guy" was able to access .Mac pages of other users that not only display their stuff but also conveniently list their password, iTunes balance, and other personal information.

If that is even possible, then .Mac has a rather serious security problem no? And isn't that more of a page 1 story as opposed to the page 2 story that this "leak" is?

It makes me think the whole story about "finding" these pages is bogus or some kind of cover story.

The real twist!

Agreed x10.

bananas
Apr 17, 2008, 11:44 AM
Totally fake, but since every body* seems to be making quite the same kind of mock ups, I think there's something to it. The upcoming laptops are probably going to be all aluminium with new keyboards and led displays. And they are going to look sleeker than the current ones, probably bit like MBA.

*including me :)

Heil68
Apr 17, 2008, 11:44 AM
Pretty interesting and surely will cause much speculation.

DanBUK
Apr 17, 2008, 11:44 AM
Fake or no fake, on seeing the Alu MacBook, my veteran 12" PowerBook just sighed a deep sigh.

The kind of sigh a good-looking middle aged woman silently sighs when she catches her husband glancing at a pretty 21 year old across the road.

tMac85
Apr 17, 2008, 11:45 AM
wow those are so bad.

im really surprised macrumors even wasted the time putting up the images.
Clearly a fake.

tveric
Apr 17, 2008, 11:45 AM
How many times do I have to say it?

It lists a live, active iTunes account and password. I consider posting someone's username and password to be poor form.

arn

Easy, boy, sounds like you're getting hysterical.

I think a lot of people are confused about why you consider a "live active iTunes account" significant. Or even what "live active iTunes account" means in this context - was that info plainly listed on someone's .mac page? Did you then log in to that account and start buying music? If so, the question still remains, why is that significant?

The lack of clarification on all these questions is why most people are dismissing these mock-ups out of hand.

Lonon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:46 AM
Thanks for that valuable contribution to the discussion... :rolleyes:

:p ;)

So you call this a discussion.

I thought we were just a bunch of Mac heads with tons of time to waste and a serious attention lacking problem. Oh, well...

tMac85
Apr 17, 2008, 11:46 AM
The real twist!

Agreed x10.

agreeeeeeee

sounds sketch to me!

jahsavi
Apr 17, 2008, 11:47 AM
As a .Mac user myself, the most disturbing part about this whole debacle is the idea that "some guy" was able to access .Mac pages of other users that not only display their stuff but also conveniently list their password, iTunes balance, and other personal information.

If that is even possible, then .Mac has a rather serious security problem no? And isn't that more of a page 1 story as opposed to the page 2 story that this "leak" is?

It makes me think the whole story about "finding" these pages is bogus or some kind of cover story.

Your right .mac is very secure, if you have a password set.. but even if they didn't have a password set to find something on a .mac page randomly.. maybe on google or yahoo would be really hard. I say its a friend or the owner himself.

Chimera
Apr 17, 2008, 11:48 AM
I can't believe this has been posted, I barely ever post in the long time I have been here.

For a start these pictures are exactly the same as the mockups posted on this very site down to the crappy imperfections.

Secondly Apple don't even shoot promo pics for machines until a couple of weeks before a release in order to keep things under wraps.

Finally you don't have to be a high level employee to have an Apple email account. I would like to ask whether Arn could post the direct link to the images (not the page) to see whether they are Apple hosted.

PS. MacRumors is a great site it is very unusual to see such a lack of judgement.

samh004
Apr 17, 2008, 11:48 AM
Looks interesting, the Mac mini looks slightly taller to me. If the apple.com email is live then perhaps it's a leak to throw off exiting rumours. Could all be planned by Apple.

DJJONES
Apr 17, 2008, 11:49 AM
i dont believe it.!! its fake:confused:

Lonon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:49 AM
So....um....... if this doesn't qualify as a Page 2 story, what does?:confused:

This shouldn't be a main page article, there is too much evidence that leans towards the fake side. The Tiger backgrounds? That iTunes ad? The iPhone that hasn't changed- design changes aside, wouldn't you think that they would have at least included the App Store icon on the screen? The British spelling of aluminum? Too much wrong to think that it's right.


/I still like it here though :D

So why complain then?

By the way, never understood that page 2 difference. They are all rumors. Except when a product release happens. So, by that measure, everything except a product release should go to Page 2.

cthomet
Apr 17, 2008, 11:49 AM
im not sure if it has been said, but is it too ridiculous to assume that some hacker stole someones @apple info and then posted these images on someone elses account, thereby making him anonymous and making the pictures seem more realistic?

Lonon
Apr 17, 2008, 11:51 AM
If anyone at Apple is reading this, I would only ask that you still maintain an anti-glare, true-color monitor option for your MBPs for those of us that rely on them for image/video editing for our businesses. Thank you.

~David

Yes, I'm sure Apple is reading MacRumors. Especially since the MacBook Air introduction and our warmed welcome for that product. :rolleyes:

randomuser5
Apr 17, 2008, 11:51 AM
I'm new to this, but I would agree with another post commenting on the Tiger desktop that is shown. That, in itself, would discredit the authenticity of this ad: after heavily marketing Leopard, why put an old OS brand image on the screen? Apple is smarter than that.

tMac85
Apr 17, 2008, 11:51 AM
I can't believe this has been posted, I barely ever post in the long time I have been here.

For a start these pictures are exactly the same as the mockups posted on this very site down to the crappy imperfections.

Secondly Apple don't even shoot promo pics for machines until a couple of weeks before a release in order to keep things under wraps.

Finally you don't have to be a high level employee to have an Apple email account. I would like to ask whether Arn could post the direct link to the images (not the page) to see whether they are Apple hosted.

PS. MacRumors is a great site it is very unusual to see such a lack of judgement.




apple doesnt 'shoot' actual photos of their acutal products. They are all done by design on computer.

Surely
Apr 17, 2008, 11:53 AM
So why complain then?

By the way, never understood that page 2 difference. They are all rumors. Except when a product release happens. So, by that measure, everything except a product release should go to Page 2.

I complain because I can. ;)

From Macrumors FAQ:

Why are some stories on Page 2?
The MacRumors front page is used for confirmed news stories, credible rumors, and other stories of wide interest to the Mac community.

Page 2 is used for less credible rumors, news stories of lesser importance or interest, and stories with fewer supporting details.

The distinction allows visitors to limit their viewing to only the most important news and rumors, if they so choose.

DizzyRose
Apr 17, 2008, 11:53 AM
I would like to ask whether Arn could post the direct link to the images (not the page) to see whether they are Apple hosted.

Any image URLs on a .Mac site will have the .Mac account name in the address. And obviously, the images would be hosted by Apple.

prezninja
Apr 17, 2008, 11:53 AM
If you look in /System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents you'll notice that even on Leopard, all the system icons use the Tiger background. In fact, the Xserve and Mac Pro images you see here are already distributed with Mac OS X.

arn
Apr 17, 2008, 11:55 AM
...

xhambonex
Apr 17, 2008, 11:55 AM
I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but the reflection on the macbook pro looks like the image was just mirrored horizontally and made more transparent. The black keyboard wouldn't be in the reflection directly below the image.

achtung!
Apr 17, 2008, 11:55 AM
no magnetic latch, tiger desktop, black square around lcd, the case corners are too rounded! thank god it's fake, 'cause it's ugly! :p

samh004
Apr 17, 2008, 11:55 AM
wow those are so bad.

im really surprised macrumors even wasted the time putting up the images.
Clearly a fake.

Incase you hadn't noticed, there haven't been many articles lately, so anything that's remotely newsworthy should be considered, and this is, considering the apple.com account.

I think a lot of people are confused about why you consider a "live active iTunes account" significant. Or even what "live active iTunes account" means in this context - was that info plainly listed on someone's .mac page?

Clearly it was listed on the .Mac page in question.

Did you then log in to that account and start buying music? If so, the question still remains, why is that significant?

They probably tried to log into it and found it worked, thus they knew it wasn't just a simple fake, as who creates a fake account loaded with $800+ credit for someone on a mac site to steal ?

The lack of clarification on all these questions is why most people are dismissing these mock-ups out of hand.

Hmm.. I haven't read through the whole thread, but did anyone try log into the developer section of Apple with said account, see what sort of access it had there etc ? Maybe even a private section of Apple that is known about but no one usually can access.

LeviG
Apr 17, 2008, 11:55 AM
Probably going to release some of whats been said but hey.

Images look like they were produced in cad software to me, especially the macbook, the blur is too digital if you get my meaning. However I suppose its possible these are inhouse renders where they're trying things out before physically making them and that the end product will look similar.

As to the designs, quite like the look of the macbook, if it came in a 13" screen.

chrisdazzo
Apr 17, 2008, 11:56 AM
So much fake, so much fail. :( I can't believe people actually believe any of this... Yeah, there may be updates coming, but I doubt any of these are the real deal. Honestly, when has Apple EVER sent out fake images of new products just to screw with our heads? Some people are so DENSE when it comes to stuff like this, I swear. Though, when it's time for new Macs to be released, they'll be released; no use in obsessing over Photoshopped shots of Macbooks and Macbook Pros.

thingamajigidid
Apr 17, 2008, 11:57 AM
Fake or no fake, on seeing the Alu MacBook, my veteran 12" PowerBook just sighed a deep sigh.

The kind of sigh a good-looking middle aged woman silently sighs when she catches her husband glancing at a pretty 21 year old across the road.

can't blame him, all he wants is to put in the old car with to many miles for a brand spanking new one with excellent head lights and a bumper he doesn't have to pretend is still there :)

MoreMaypo
Apr 17, 2008, 11:57 AM
These pics are the real deal folks.... according to prophesy.

viniciusc
Apr 17, 2008, 11:58 AM
I don't think using Glass on a laptop screen border might be a good idea.

brn2ski00
Apr 17, 2008, 11:58 AM
Loving the new MB (if that's what it will look like)! :D

whistlerpro
Apr 17, 2008, 11:59 AM
That's the big alarm bell for me

It could easily be explained as being based off the icons provided in Leopard. All the Mac icons have tiger desktops, even the MacBook Air. By the look of things these graphics aren't exactly finished.

Baron58
Apr 17, 2008, 11:59 AM
Is that anything like Liutenant being prounounced "Leftanant"? :eek:

You English need to learn to speak American... ;)

<sigh>
You misspelled 'Lieutenant'
You misspelled your phonetic attempt at 'Leftenent'

Aluminium is the correct spelling of the element. Most metals are that way - chromium, sodium, titanium, americium, uranium, plutonium, and so forth. There are some exceptions (platinum), and inconsistency in the latin names (plumbium (lead), vs. cuprum (copper)), but al-u-min-ee-um without the 'i' is just the typical American spelling. The rest of the world does it right, with the 'i'.

Chimera
Apr 17, 2008, 11:59 AM
apple doesnt 'shoot' actual photos of their acutal products. They are all done by design on computer.

You got me :)

Any image URLs on a .Mac site will have the .Mac account name in the address. And obviously, the images would be hosted by Apple.

Fair dues didn't know that.

Still the overriding factor is that both these designs have been on this site for around a month, i'd like to see what the original authors think.

cthomet
Apr 17, 2008, 12:00 PM
1 infinite loop mailing address. interesting cuz its apples official mailing address.

achtung!
Apr 17, 2008, 12:01 PM
I don't think using Glass on a laptop screen border might be a good idea.

who said it is glass? ;)

kuebby
Apr 17, 2008, 12:02 PM
Looks good to me. All of products shown are in line with what's expected. But, we do know now that Apple has posted rumors online before.

What really stokes my curiosity is iTunes 8. I wonder what new features it will bring us.

bacaramac
Apr 17, 2008, 12:02 PM
I don't think using Glass on a laptop screen border might be a good idea.

So, you drop your laptop more then your iPhone? Don't see any issue with this. Apparently the glass that Apple uses is more durable then standard plate glass.

samh004
Apr 17, 2008, 12:02 PM
1 infinite loop mailing address. interesting cuz its apples official mailing address.

Yes but anyone can make their address what they like, there aren't any paper invoices...

Viddrumr32
Apr 17, 2008, 12:03 PM
Um, no, "Aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium)" is indeed a correct spelling of the element in question. It's not a made up alloy or anything else. Did you perhaps incorrectly think that "Aluminum" is the only accepted spelling of the element? If so, consider yourself having learned something today. :D :cool:

i definitely did. man i hate being an ignorant american......and in the south

imwoblin
Apr 17, 2008, 12:04 PM
But I'm telling you! :D
In all seriousness, this is going to be an interesting year for us Appleheads. I seem to remember that the Al iMac is going to be redesigned in the near future, and wonder how that redesign plays into the equation.

cthomet
Apr 17, 2008, 12:06 PM
Yes but anyone can make their address what they like, there aren't any paper invoices...

im kinda assuming these images arent from apple, so i think its interesting that whoever put those up took the time and effort to put thought into little details and nuggets of truth like that. just made me smile

firewood
Apr 17, 2008, 12:07 PM
In the alleged MacBook image, the ratio of the width of the LCD to the width of the keyboard is greater than in photos of the Air. What's up with that? Substandard keyboard width or photoshop geometry error?

tMac85
Apr 17, 2008, 12:07 PM
So, you drop your laptop more then your iPhone? Don't see any issue with this. Apparently the glass that Apple uses is more durable then standard plate glass.

can you imagine how much weight that would add.

apple will not use GLASS on a laptop.

gcortega
Apr 17, 2008, 12:08 PM
too good to be true...

achtung!
Apr 17, 2008, 12:09 PM
can you imagine how much weight that would add.

apple will not use GLASS on a laptop.

finally someone clever LOL. glass is not a option. period.

Surely
Apr 17, 2008, 12:10 PM
<sigh>
You misspelled 'Lieutenant'
You misspelled your phonetic attempt at 'Leftenent'

Aluminium is the correct spelling of the element. Most metals are that way - chromium, sodium, titanium, americium, uranium, plutonium, and so forth. There are some exceptions (platinum), and inconsistency in the latin names (plumbium (lead), vs. cuprum (copper)), but al-u-min-ee-um without the 'i' is just the typical American spelling. The rest of the world does it right, with the 'i'.

Except that the spelling that Apple.com (http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/) uses is 'Aluminum', not 'Aluminium'.
Same for the Canadian Apple site (http://www.apple.com/ca/macbookpro/).

DizzyRose
Apr 17, 2008, 12:10 PM
can you imagine how much weight that would add.

apple will not use GLASS on a laptop.

Apple have, what, 6 weeks until WWDC... enough time to make a few changes?

gramtrax
Apr 17, 2008, 12:10 PM
Is anyone else beside me lusting after the $800+ in that guys itunes account? Yikes, now that would be spiffy to have...

Eraserhead
Apr 17, 2008, 12:11 PM
"'Aluminium' is spelled correctly."

He's English its a joke, we spell Aluminum as "Aluminium" ;).

finally someone clever LOL. glass is not a option. period.

Why not? The iPod Touch and iPhone have glass.

MacFly123
Apr 17, 2008, 12:12 PM
FAKE FAKE FAKE!!!

1. When Apple updates the MacBook and MacBook Pro it will be on the main home page billboard not the sub mini bottom billboards underneath. That wouldn't be till the next announcement and then they would move to the bottom billboards.
2. That MacBook is too big to only be 13" with those speakers.
3. That MacBook Pro is so obviously Photoshopped with that ridiculously rounded screen that doesn't even match the shape of the base that it is pathetic. I mean all you have to do is look at it for one second to see that the ugly top is just cut and pasted onto the base.
4. They would all have the Leopard wallpaper.
5. iTunes would not be advertised like that lol.
6. iPhone design is the same as the current.

AMEN lol! People must be really hungry for rumors! I so hope that there is a 32 GB iPhone in June though. I don't wanna finally get my iPhone in June then have to already upgrade before Christmas to get 32 GB.

peterdevries
Apr 17, 2008, 12:13 PM
the fact that the pictures might not be flawless etc does (in my opinion) not mean that they are necessarily fake, or mockups by whoever..

It could be old design tests for the new product line, which would explain that they maybe use Tiger backgrounds. I donīt think they start designing new product lines a few weeks before launch.

Considering the Itunes advert: Apple does not need to change their marketing style every few weeks or months, or do they?

p.s. yay!! I just got promoted to macrumors member!! :D

markopolo1389
Apr 17, 2008, 12:14 PM
it will be interesting come june, thats for sure

it find it odd that the iphone still looks the same. However those are tiny pics so i could be wrong

I was just about to comment the same thing if this rumor is true then the other rumor about the new iphone having a glossy black back must be false

king974
Apr 17, 2008, 12:15 PM
the fact that the pictures might not be flawless etc does (in my opinion) not mean that they are necessarily fake, or mockups by whoever..

It could be old design tests for the new product line, which would explain that they maybe use Tiger backgrounds. I donīt think they start designing new product lines a few weeks before launch.

Considering the Itunes advert: Apple does not need to change their marketing style every few weeks or months, or do they?

If you truely believe this crap to be real, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you!

thingamajigidid
Apr 17, 2008, 12:15 PM
#1 - I'm Canadian

#2 - You Americans need to learn how to spell
(it's "Lieutenant" in case you didn't figure it out...)

:p ;)

Seriously though, back to the topic at hand, although I think these images themselves are fake, I could easily see Apple updating the portable line at WWDC. I just don't think what we're seeing here is what the end result will be. ;)

so, if your canadian.....
why do you think we care what your saying ? :) jk.