Verizon says I can use an Iphone?

[Cocles]

Just called Verizon to ask them a few questions about my account.

At one point I mentioned the iPhone and the lady said, "If you want, you can buy an iPhone and activate it on your Verizon account."

I replied, "Let me get this straight. I go out, buy an iPhone, and you'll let me use it on my Verizon account? I don't need to switch to AT&T?"

She said, "That's correct."

I asked, "What about visual Voice Mail? I heard that only works through AT&T?"

To that she said, "I'm not sure about that one. So far I've only activated one iPhone for someone since we started doing it, and that wasn't mentioned."

Okay so here's my question to you guys. Anyone know the latest details on this? Would all of the iPhone's features still be intact? If this true, then this could be amazing for people who still have some time to go on their Verizon contracts.

Thanks.

[steveza]

Lies and more lies :)

[Diode]

Verizon uses a completely different cell phone technology then what the iphone uses that is NOT compatible.

I think the rep might be confusing the iphone with something else.

[avaloncourt]

Okay so here's my question to you guys. Anyone know the latest details on this?

No, you can't activate on Verizon. You should have asked how much it would cost you to get a SIM card from Verizon. CDMA doesn't use SIM cards.

Apparently she really wanted you to buy a phone from AT&T and switch carriers. You ended up with a CSR with an IQ below room temperature.

By the way, this is now the second "Will an iPhone work on Verizon?" thread in less than 90 minutes and the most recent reply to the other thread was 8 minutes before you started this one.

[atszyman]

Just called Verizon to ask them a few questions about my account.

At one point I mentioned the iPhone and the lady said, "If you want, you can buy an iPhone and activate it on your Verizon account."

I replied, "Let me get this straight. I go out, buy an iPhone, and you'll let me use it on my Verizon account? I don't need to switch to AT&T?"

She said, "That's correct."

I asked, "What about visual Voice Mail? I heard that only works through AT&T?"

To that she said, "I'm not sure about that one. So far I've only activated one iPhone for someone since we started doing it, and that wasn't mentioned."

Okay so here's my question to you guys. Anyone know the latest details on this? Would all of the iPhone's features still be intact? If this true, then this could be amazing for people who still have some time to go on their Verizon contracts.

Thanks.

Completely and utterly false. Verizon uses CDMA for it's networks not GSM. There is no version of the iPhone that will work on a CDMA network. So actually none of the features (aside from wifi) will work on Verizon's network.

[Applejuiced]

wow cell phone company reps are completely clueless.....

[wildcardd]

Completely and utterly false. Verizon uses CDMA for it's networks not GSM. There is no version of the iPhone that will work on a CDMA network. So actually none of the features (aside from wifi) will work on Verizon's network.

And technically WiFi isn't Verizon's network.

And, the phone would be locked....so you wouldn't be able to use that either (not including jailbreaking).

[AdamWhite]

Some rumors floating out there that Apple may only have a 2 year exclusive agreement with AT&T...which is due to expire in 2009. If that's the case, Verizon will have already hopefully started testing the 4G LTE network (with 3G GSM Backward compatibility) ... so the iPhone could theoretically work on the future Verizon Network.

ON the other hand, it's also quite possible Apple will create a CDMA version considering there still is quite a market for CDMA throughout the world ...

My bet is that Verizon will start the migration towards 4G LTE and grow into the next model of iphone. http://www.3gIphoneInfo.com

Good day all!

[atszyman]

And technically WiFi isn't Verizon's network.

And, the phone would be locked....so you wouldn't be able to use that either (not including jailbreaking).

Well the question was if any of the features on the iPhone would work if it was activated on Verizon. Wifi features would still work... but that is all.

[killmoms]

Well the question was if any of the features on the iPhone would work if it was activated on Verizon. Wifi features would still work... but that is all.

Except you can't activate on Verizon's network at all in the first place.

[Applejuiced]

Yes maybe in 2015, keep waiting though.
it might happen one day :)

Some rumors floating out there that Apple may only have a 2 year exclusive agreement with AT&T...which is due to expire in 2009. If that's the case, Verizon will have already hopefully started testing the 4G LTE network (with 3G GSM Backward compatibility) ... so the iPhone could theoretically work on the future Verizon Network.

ON the other hand, it's also quite possible Apple will create a CDMA version considering there still is quite a market for CDMA throughout the world ...

My bet is that Verizon will start the migration towards 4G LTE and grow into the next model of iphone. http://www.3gIphoneInfo.com

Good day all!

[avaloncourt]

ON the other hand, it's also quite possible Apple will create a CDMA version considering there still is quite a market for CDMA throughout the world ...



Really? What are the other major CDMA markets?

[FDX]

Verizon Wireles---from cnet.com for what its worth

Verizon may offer a vast network in the United States, but because it's a CDMA carrier, its coverage abroad is much less extensive than that of Cingular or T-Mobile. Using a Verizon CDMA handset, you can roam to China and Taiwan, Guam, Guatemala, Indonesia, Vietnam, Israel, India, New Zealand, Thailand, Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Peru, South Korea, and a few Caribbean islands, though a software upgrade may be required for some countries.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3504_7-6253284-5.html

[NeoMayhem]

Really? What are the other major CDMA markets?

Canada, Korea, China...

[Cocles]

No, you can't activate on Verizon. You should have asked how much it would cost you to get a SIM card from Verizon. CDMA doesn't use SIM cards.

Apparently she really wanted you to buy a phone from AT&T and switch carriers. You ended up with a CSR with an IQ below room temperature.

By the way, this is now the second "Will an iPhone work on Verizon?" thread in less than 90 minutes and the most recent reply to the other thread was 8 minutes before you started this one.

Avalon - I didn't ask about the SIM card, although (on a side note) I did ask if I would need a data plan and she said, "Yes you would. Unlimited data plans are $44.99."

As for posting a similar thread. I did a ctrl+f search, as well as used the forum's own search function for the word "Verizon" and I saw nothing pop up that answered my question. I apologize for upsetting you.

[Applejuiced]

Wow $45 a month for data? They charge an arm at verizon


[QUOTE=Cocles;5332826]Avalon - I didn't ask about the SIM card, although (on a side note) I did ask if I would need a data plan and she said, "Yes you would. Unlimited data plans are $44.99.

[kdarling]

Wow $45 a month for data? They charge an arm at verizon

Verizon just introduced a non-business unlimited data plan for $30, but it's taking a few weeks to make it available for all their PDA phones.

[alansmallen]

Just called Verizon to ask them a few questions about my account.

At one point I mentioned the iPhone and the lady said, "If you want, you can buy an iPhone and activate it on your Verizon account."

I replied, "Let me get this straight. I go out, buy an iPhone, and you'll let me use it on my Verizon account? I don't need to switch to AT&T?"

She said, "That's correct."

I asked, "What about visual Voice Mail? I heard that only works through AT&T?"

To that she said, "I'm not sure about that one. So far I've only activated one iPhone for someone since we started doing it, and that wasn't mentioned."

Okay so here's my question to you guys. Anyone know the latest details on this? Would all of the iPhone's features still be intact? If this true, then this could be amazing for people who still have some time to go on their Verizon contracts.

Thanks.

The customer service rep said the exact same thing to me. Also, I went into a Verizon store and the manager said not to switch to AT&T because the iPhone is coming to Verizon in September.

This is when I said "multi-year exclusive contract" and stormed out.

[TXCraig]

Who is dumber? The CSR for giving you a bad answer to your question or you for even asking it?

[kdarling]

This is when I said "multi-year exclusive contract" and stormed out.

As if anyone here has actually seen the contract :rolleyes:

The whole "five year" thing started with one USA Today reporter making a guess.

Personally, I still think it's only for two years or less, and is somehow tried to the rushed introduction before July 1st of last year.

[Applejuiced]

You really think Apple will be switching from carrier to carrier every few years along with changing from gsm to CDMA like that.
nonsense....


As if anyone here has actually seen the contract :rolleyes:

The whole "five year" thing started with one USA Today reporter making a guess.

Personally, I still think it's only for two years or less, and is somehow tried to the rushed introduction before July 1st of last year.

[alansmallen]

Who is dumber? The CSR for giving you a bad answer to your question or you for even asking it?

I didn't ask that. I wanted to know if I could get my early termination fee pro rated. And she asked me why I was leaving. So I told her and she gave me her answer.

[Cocles]

Who is dumber? The CSR for giving you a bad answer to your question or you for even asking it?

You for your remedial reading skills. Neither the above poster nor myself said anything about asking them about the iPhone.

[Applejuiced]

some idiot at best buy the other day was trying to tell me that with a software update Apple will make the iPhone compatible with verizons network
LOL :)

[Zwhaler]

some idiot at best buy the other day was trying to tell me that with a software update Apple will make the iPhone compatible with verizons network
LOL :)

Man it is amazing what comes out of peoples mouths that they just make up. Unless the software has morphing properties that can change GSM to CDMA... then... nope.

[Applejuiced]

I dont know if some of those reps are that dumb or they just straight out lie in order not to lose a customer. Countless of storys where verizon and sprint people tell folks not to switch cause in a few months the iphone would be available on their network.

[kdarling]

You really think Apple will be switching from carrier to carrier every few years along with changing from gsm to CDMA like that. nonsense....

I didn't say that. I said I think their exclusivity is probably less than five years.

Meaning: not switching carriers, but adding more of them.

[ScottFitz]

2 years seems reasonable for the contract. I've never figured that it was a 5 year deal.

ATT is laying off a butt-load of folks. But, as much as I hate Att, I'll be switching over from TMO as soon as the new 3G model comes out.

[Applejuiced]

I doubt it but if anything the only other GSM US company is Tmobile and their network is crap. Why bother?
I think they'd keep it exclusive to one network at each country they make the Iphone available at.


I didn't say that. I said I think their exclusivity is probably less than five years.

Meaning: not switching carriers, but adding more of them.

[jav6454]

The customer service rep said the exact same thing to me. Also, I went into a Verizon store and the manager said not to switch to AT&T because the iPhone is coming to Verizon in September.

This is when I said "multi-year exclusive contract" and stormed out.

Really.... iPhone in Verizon in September? I honestly doubt Apple will go with Verizon much after Verizon initially turned down the iPhone. Apple will play with people who already accept their ends. Verizon never bows down to anyone much especially handset makers; hence why they have mediocre service.

Also on a side note, CDMA is not compatible with iPhone (GSM); gosh some costumer service reps need to get some brains in them, honest.

[jonzey231]

Verizon uses a completely different cell phone technology then what the iphone uses that is NOT compatible.

I think the rep might be confusing the iphone with something else.


The representative did say the had a successful iPhone activation in the past. So maybe that person hacked in a way to not have to utilize the SIM Card.

[zap2]

The representative did say the had a successful iPhone activation in the past. So maybe that person hacked in a way to not have to utilize the SIM Card.

He lied

Or was mistaken

[matperk]

Verizon owns some GSM towers mainly to make some money off other carrier's roaming charges. IIRC, Verizon also has some GSM plans, at least, that's what I've been told. So if you unlocked the iPhone you could get a Verizon plan, but they won't like it. They're trying to get people off their GSM stuff and go to CDMA. They're probably also very expensive plans.

[zap2]

there still is quite a market for CDMA throughout the world ...


And by that, you mean in North America?

Maybe a little in Asia

[swingerofbirch]

I know Verizon is planning to open up its network to third party phones, so that you can buy your own phone anywhere and use it with a Verizon service plan. Verizon has told me that this should give users the motivation to call Apple and ask for a CDMA iPhone that could be used with Verizon.

I hope we get a European model of service soon!

[zap2]

I know Verizon is planning to open up its network to third party phones, so that you can buy your own phone anywhere and use it with a Verizon service plan. Verizon has told me that this should give users the motivation to call Apple and ask for a CDMA iPhone that could be used with Verizon.


Haha, tell Verizon that they should have taken the iPhone when they had the chance!

[kdarling]

Haha, tell Verizon that they should have taken the iPhone when they had the chance!

Verizon doesn't care.

Heck, they had less customer churn, percentage wise, than ATT did last year. Plus they didn't have to give up a lot of income or power to Apple.

Pretty good decision to pass on the iPhone, from their standpoint !

By the time Apple breaks out of their self-imposed suicidal ATT exclusive, rumored to end in 2012, Verizon (and ATT) will be selling WM7/8 4G LTE phones... without giving up anything.

[Applejuiced]

yeah good decision my ass.
thats why they lost tons of customers to the iPhones AT&T and every company out there is trying to copy the iPhone.

[zap2]

Pretty good decision to pass on the iPhone, from their standpoint !
.

Which is why they(atleast some of their stores) suggest people call Apple asking for a CMDA model?


By the time Apple breaks out of their self-imposed suicidal ATT exclusive, rumored to end in 2012, Verizon (and ATT and Sprint) will be selling WM7/8 4G LTE phones... without giving up anything.
Umm...if AT&T will be selling those WM7/8 phones 4G, what did they lose? Plus they have the iPhone. You're comparing Apple and Verizon...the are different markets.

Sprint is going Wimax.

[cheekybobcat]

Wow $45 a month for data? They charge an arm at verizon


[QUOTE=Cocles;5332826]Avalon - I didn't ask about the SIM card, although (on a side note) I did ask if I would need a data plan and she said, "Yes you would. Unlimited data plans are $44.99.

It's $45 in addition to a base plan from AT&T. Say you have a plan that has 1000 minutes and unlimited texting for $50. The texts in the base plan don't apply to the iPhone so to get unlimited texting with the iPhone, you would have to add that $45 to your original $50.

[kdarling]

thats why they lost tons of customers to the iPhones AT&T

That's not what each company's year end results showed. Verizon ended up with a greater number of contract customers, which gives them the edge in income. And they had fewer customers leave than ATT did.

and every company out there is trying to copy the iPhone.

Thank goodness they're not doing that. Copying would be too easy, considering the fairly primitive (though flashy) iPhone UI and its lack of user customization and advanced user features.

Others ARE trying to match the browser UI and depth, which is great.

Others are creating far more interesting home page paradigms.

Others are NOT making phones that require a computer to activate, thank goodness. There is a HUGE market coming for smartphones that just work out of the box.

[zap2]

ATT is laying off a butt-load of folks. But, as much as I hate Att, I'll be switching over from TMO as soon as the new 3G model comes out.


What?

They layed off some people, then hired that same number back, to a different part of the company.

[Applejuiced]

who cares what verizons year end numbers claim.
just by calling most of their techs youll know that they took a big hit by AT&T and the iPhone. They all told to lie to consumers telling them in a few months they'll have the iPhone available :D. Dont switch just wait a little......
LOL

[JLew]

Wow $45 a month for data? They charge an arm at verizon




[It's $45 in addition to a base plan from AT&T. Say you have a plan that has 1000 minutes and unlimited texting for $50. The texts in the base plan don't apply to the iPhone so to get unlimited texting with the iPhone, you would have to add that $45 to your original $50.

Huh?

The iPhone data plans with AT&T are:

$20 - Unlimited Data and 200 Text Messages
$30 - Unlimited Data and 1500 Text Messages
$40 - Unlimited Data and Unlimited Text Messages

Let's get our facts straight.

[zainjetha]

What a stupid sales rep... You should have asked her how she activated it....

this makes me laugh.. im british in UK and i know that CDMA and GSM are not compatible...