Shut downs takes ~20 seconds [Archive]

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 06:40 PM

I wouldn't say my macbook pro is running slow because its only happening in the shut downs. When I start it up, it is unbelievably fast on getting from the gray screen to fully functional. But the shut down is almost painful and after I click shut down I have to wait 15-20 seconds before the computer shuts down. Is there anyway that I can fix this?

kfordham281

Apr 19, 2008, 06:45 PM

My MBP takes about that long too. I don't really care; I just deal with it (it's faster than my work laptop).

bcaslis

Apr 19, 2008, 06:49 PM

This is normal. All Apple laptops in the past couple of years do this. It basically does a hibernation. So even if you remove the battery it will come back. If you open from sleep it looks normal. But if you completely lose power then press the power button, you get a greyed out screen that looks like you screen when you went to sleep and in 15 seconds or so are back were you left off. The downside is that it has to write all the memory contents out to disk before it sleeps. If you have 4GB of memory it takes even longer.

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 06:50 PM

Ok I went to the Apple support forum and one guy had the exact same problem and all he did was eject his Bootcamp partition. I tired it and my MBP shut down after like a second.

So I figured out the problem. It is my Bootcamp partition but what does this have to do with the shut down and what does ejecting it do?

bcaslis

Apr 19, 2008, 08:41 PM

Oops, sorry I misread I thought you were talking about sleep.

Not sure why your shutdown is taking so long. I have one machine with a bootcamp partition and I don't think it takes that long to shutdown.

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 09:45 PM

Really? It can't be just me though. I found lot of users having to wait a lot of time just for the MBP to shut down and if they eject the disc the problem gets solved.

I want to know what ejecting the disc do actually?

oYx

Apr 19, 2008, 09:55 PM

mine (10.5.2 on mbp 17") takes a minute or more to shut down. :(

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 09:59 PM

mine (10.5.2 on mbp 17") takes a minute or more to shut down. :(

Do you have a bootcamp partition?

oYx

Apr 19, 2008, 10:05 PM

Do you have a bootcamp partition?

yeah, i do.

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 10:07 PM

yeah, i do.

Try to eject the partition and see if the shutdown is faster. :)

You eject the partition by going to "Untitled" in the desktop and right clicking it and selecting eject. It always comes back once you restart though so don't worry

oYx

Apr 19, 2008, 10:10 PM

Try to eject the partition and see if the shutdown is faster. :)

You eject the partition by going to "Untitled" in the desktop and right clicking it and selecting eject. It always comes back once you restart though so don't worry

just ejected the boot camp partition via finder (right-click, eject), and restarted. it happened almost instantaneously!

kgeier82

Apr 19, 2008, 10:14 PM

15" MBP penryn 2.4 here, 200gb 5400 drive/4gb ram

while running Firefox, adium, mail, smc fan, istat menu widget:

Once i hit ctrl-alt-option-eject, shutdown takes <10 seconds.

bootcamp partition with XP, 25GB in size. BT keyboard and such.

not sure why you all are having forever times.

10.5.2 as well, all updated.

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 10:15 PM

See!
Told you.
Right now, all I can think of is just ejecting the Bootcamp partition before shutting down. The n I don't have to wait 20+ seconds to shut down.

srl7741

Apr 19, 2008, 10:18 PM

just ejected the boot camp partition via finder (right-click, eject), and restarted. it happened almost instantaneously!

I did the same thing and my MBP shut down instantly. Ejecting the drive does seem to effect shutdown times.

oYx

Apr 19, 2008, 10:20 PM

those with slow shutdowns, do you have ntfs-3g (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/index.html) installed?

gothamm

Apr 19, 2008, 10:37 PM

wesrk

Apr 19, 2008, 10:37 PM

I have boot camp with xp sp2 installed and it doesn't take 20 seconds, it might take like 10, but no more than that...
though, next time i turn it off i will check and see how long it takes...

Watabou

Apr 19, 2008, 10:51 PM

those with slow shutdowns, do you have ntfs-3g (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/index.html) installed?

Yep. and macFuse. Is that what's causing the problem?
I guess I don't really need it right now. Is there a way to uninstall them? They are not in applications or in utilities and I don't want to delete files from the system folders.

oYx

Apr 19, 2008, 10:54 PM

not too sure, but it's worth finding out if those without the slow shutdowns have ntfs-3g installed too.

Me1000

Apr 20, 2008, 12:04 AM

mine takes a good minute or 2 to shut down (of course I only reboot every month or more) I dont have a bootcamp partition or any other partition.

Could it be that it is clearing the stuff out in swap?

uptime - 5 days: Swap - 1.25GB (I need more RAM! :p )

steinlager

Apr 20, 2008, 12:47 AM

I've found that clearing caches has really helped my shutdown times. It used to take me about 30-40 seconds to shut down. Then i got Onyx and cleared all my caches (and I do this almost daily) and it takes about 2-3 seconds to shut down. I don't even see the spinning wheel.

So my recommendation is, get Onyx, clear caches. Run maintenance scripts. You should see an improvement as it did for me.

Watabou

Apr 20, 2008, 12:49 AM

kfordham281

Apr 20, 2008, 09:16 AM

Yep. and macFuse. Is that what's causing the problem?
I guess I don't really need it right now. Is there a way to uninstall them? They are not in applications or in utilities and I don't want to delete files from the system folders.

I'm pretty sure I've got those two installed also.

alphaod

Apr 20, 2008, 11:03 AM

I have verbose mode on and it tells me it has to stop all the VMWare adapters. If I remove VMWare, it's fast.

kgeier82

Apr 20, 2008, 11:17 AM

what annoys me is when a program, such as limewire, transmission, or adium cancels the shutdown...because i haven't closed them individually.

Is there anyway to set it up so it overrides and force quits everything...in other words...it SHUTS DOWN when i click "shut down"

cmd-opt-alt- eject FORCES SHUTDOWN.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106567

my adium and limewire go quietly after that. you can also set limewire to not confirm shutdown in its pref.

Watabou

Apr 20, 2008, 01:14 PM

I tried to force shut down while having the Bootcamp partition un-ejected and it took my MBP 18 seconds exact for it to shut down.

yarinb

Apr 20, 2008, 01:59 PM

I'm almost positive about ntfs-3g causing slow shutdowns.
every time I boot in verbose mode (hole cmd-v while booting), it'll also shutdown in verbose mode, and I always notice a 30 seconds wait for ntfs-3g process to kill itself. Eventually, the system will shut the process forcefully.

I just tried uninstalling ntfs-3g (left bootcamp partition mounted) and my MBP shutdown instantly.

try removing ntfs-3g/macFuse and see if it had any affect on shutdown time.

kfordham281

Apr 20, 2008, 02:35 PM

try removing ntfs-3g/macFuse and see if it had any affect on shutdown time.

Is there an easy way to do this?

Watabou

Apr 20, 2008, 02:45 PM

Isn't there a terminal command that can uninstall ntfs 3g and macfuse?

I don't really need both of these right now since I moved over essential files from mac to windows.

And what about those people who say they have both ntfs3 and macFuse and they don't have any problems with shut downs?

Bobbi Flekman

Apr 21, 2008, 04:01 AM

I have verbose mode on and it tells me it has to stop all the VMWare adapters. If I remove VMWare, it's fast.

It is not a MacBook but an iMac and I have a shutdown of some 20 seconds as well. No ntfs-3g, no Bootcamp, but I do use VMware Fusion... So a few questions:

a. I reckon that starting in Verbose Mode also shuts down in Verbose Mode, or do I interpret your statement wrong?
b. What do you mean with "remove VMware"? Outright uninstall of the program? Then again, Fusion has been on this machine from day one, and the bitbucket shutdown in less than 3 seconds before...

P.S.: I already started a thread in the OS X forum as I doubt this is MacBook or iMac specific (as is demonstrated by this post).

maxus

Apr 21, 2008, 06:38 AM

36 seconds normal shutdown..

5 seconds if I unmount windows vista partition.!!!!!!!!!!!

I also have ntfs-3g installed

elberggreno

Apr 21, 2008, 07:14 AM

I've noticed it to, before I installed bootcamp my MBP shut down instantly, but ever since bootcamp it takes about 1minute, it's a pain in the ass, and ntfs-3g didn't change a thing!

Anyone knows of a way to never mount the bootcamp partition under leopard? I found some threads about it but they did'nt work under leopard..

gnasher729

Apr 21, 2008, 07:26 AM

what annoys me is when a program, such as limewire, transmission, or adium cancels the shutdown...because i haven't closed them individually.

Is there anyway to set it up so it overrides and force quits everything...in other words...it SHUTS DOWN when i click "shut down"

I usually just close the lid...

Why are you actually trying to shut down your MacBook?

Watabou

Apr 21, 2008, 05:06 PM

What is Verbose mode and how do I enter it?

gothamm

Apr 21, 2008, 05:19 PM

I usually just close the lid...

Why are you actually trying to shut down your MacBook?

that is very much besides the point. It should shut down when i tell it to. That means force quitting everything. even windoze does that.

Watabou

Apr 27, 2008, 04:20 PM

Sorry to bump this but anyone know how to uninstall ntfs 3g and macfuse? I searched google but did not find anything.

masse

Apr 27, 2008, 09:21 PM

its 20 seconds.

who doesn't have 20 seconds?

Watabou

Apr 27, 2008, 09:37 PM

its 20 seconds.

who doesn't have 20 seconds?

Me. Time counts. I think its making start up times a bit slower than it used to be too. I just want it to start and shut down faster.

alphaod

Apr 28, 2008, 12:52 AM

I solved mine when I defragmented my hard drive. If you don't have defrag software (which isn't in OSX because defragging is not needed in 90%+ of the time), you can do a back up and restore--Time Machine and then restore computer from Time Machine--if you don't have Leopard it's a good opportunity to get it!

kfordham281

Apr 30, 2008, 12:15 AM

Sorry to bump this but anyone know how to uninstall ntfs 3g and macfuse? I searched google but did not find anything.

If you open the ntfs 3g dmg you'll see a uninstall shell command. Just run that.

Here's a long thread about uninstalling MacFuse (I haven't tried it): http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/issues/detail?id=36&can=2&q=

kfordham281

May 1, 2008, 08:30 PM

After removing ntfs 3g my MBP shuts down in less than 10 seconds.

Lukee

Apr 30, 2011, 06:27 AM

I know this is an old Thread but for people still having this problem try this fix, it worked for me.

In Terminal type.

cd /
sudo chown root:admin /

Hope it works for you :)

DRichard

Oct 26, 2011, 12:02 PM

Have you tried MacPaw's CleanMyMac? I did and it worked wonders for my MBP with SnowLepard:). Easy to install, easy to use... ok you still have to buy a lifetime licence (30$) to gain full use of it, but still if it can solve 500Mb of stuff on the free trial version, it's worth a try. And it saved me the job of reinstalling all the Bootcamp and stuff.:apple: