Left Wing Of The Democratic Party “Kind Of Admires American Terrorists"

[solvs]

So sayith the Newt (http://www.newshounds.us/2008/04/19/newt_gingrich_left_wing_of_the_democratic_party_kind_of_admires_american_terrorists.php)

During his interview with Gingrich, Hannity described Obama as “The number one liberal in the Senate.” The race-obsessed Hannity also mentioned Obama’s visit to Louis Farrakhan’s Million Man March as one of the “controversies” that “don’t seem to hurt (Obama) in the Democratic nominating process.”

Gingrich replied, “The left wing of the Democratic Party, frankly, kind of admires American terrorists. They don’t mind at all that Farrakhan’s anti-Semitic. They shrug off Jeremiah Wright.”

Hannity, laughing, said, “Right!”

This on top of:

Karl Rove Offers Mind-Bending Take On 'Flag Lapel Pin' Issue (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/20/karl-rove-offers-mind-ben_n_97637.html)

WALLACE: Let me ask you about that. Some liberal commentators say that Clinton has been using the Rove playbook going after Obama on values like guns and religion. Does what you have heard from her last week sound familiar?

ROVE: Well it's not what I would have done. There are democrats who are troubled by some of the things that Obama says and why she has not made this an issue earlier, particularly framing it up as an issue that would be raised in the general election and what's his answer now has eluded me. For example, he very early on made the comment about true patriotism consists not of wearing a flag lapel pin but speaking out on the issues. You can be a true patriot and speak out on issues AND wear a flag lapel pin. He sort of questioning the patriotism of people who might put on a flag lapel pin, but disagree with his opinion.

I like Bob Schieffer's take on Face The Nation (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/20/face-the-nation-schieffer-reminds-us-that-its-the-patriotism-not-the-lapel-pin/):

Finally, today, I watched the ABC debate the other night when that question came up again about why Senator Obama doesn’t wear a flag pin in his lapel. Since no one asked me, here is my thought on all that. I think it’s a nice thing if people want to wear a flag on their lapel. But I believe it more important to keep the flag behind our lapel in our hearts. I feel the same way about wearing my religion on my sleeve. It just fits me better on the inside. When I go to see our local baseball team, I do wear my Washington Nationals baseball cap. But am I less a fan if don’t wear it to work? The truth is I have been known to wear a red, white and blue stars and stripes tie on the Fourth of July. But am I less patriotic when I trade it for my Santa Claus tie at Christmas? Patriotism is no more about signs or pins than religion is about reminding others how pious we think we are. No, the proof in these puddings is not the signs that we wear, but how we act. Wouldn’t that also be a better way to judge our presidential candidates than by the jewelry they wear?

To be fair Obama and Hillary have been going after each other too:

"Slash-And-Burn" Vs. "The Kitchen Sink" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/20/slash-and-burn-vs-the-kit_n_97667.html)

Any way we can get back to the issues anytime soon? :rolleyes:

The Difference Between Tough and Inappropriate Questions (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-difference-between-to_b_97595.html)

[it5five]

In 2004, Kerry was "the most liberal senator". Now in 2008, it's Obama who's "the most liberal senator". I'd have thought that a self described Democratic Socialist, Bernie Sanders, would be "the most liberal senator", but apparently I'm wrong.

If Hillary somehow gets the nomination, I have no doubt that she will be described as the most liberal senator by the right-wing.

[solvs]

If Hillary somehow gets the nomination, I have no doubt that she will be described as the most liberal senator by the right-wing.
And still hit with voting for the Iraq war and Patriot Act. Funny how that happens. Also been told they're both ant-gun, despite all evidence (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/additional/Obama_FactSheet_Western_Sportsmen.pdf) to the contrary (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/12/hillary-becomes-a-gun-lov_n_96396.html). They've both said they'll fight back (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/07/obama-swiftboating-cant_n_85588.html) against the swiftboating (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/05/john-kerry-obama-wont-be_n_95261.html) this time around, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[Thomas Veil]

In 2004, Kerry was "the most liberal senator". Now in 2008, it's Obama who's "the most liberal senator".My exact thought when I read that. Sorry to see they're re-running the same tired old BS, but I guess that's better than new BS.

BTW, this feeds into my contention, held for a while now, that it's time for liberals to take back the name and re-frame it as what it is: something positive, something to be proud of.

[leekohler]

My exact thought when I read that. Sorry to see they're re-running the same tired old BS, but I guess that's better than new BS.

BTW, this feeds into my contention, held for a while now, that it's time for liberals to take back the name and re-frame it as what it is: something positive, something to be proud of.

Exactly. I'm sick of Newt Gingrich and his obvious lies. Why the Dems let him get away with it is amazing to me.

[solvs]

Why the Dems let him get away with it is amazing to me.
Why do they? Anyone know? I used to think it was taking the high road, not wanting to dignify it with a response or something, but now I can't help but think it's not quite as noble. When liberals do stuff like this, the GOP usually slams them. The GOP actually seems to slam them even when they don't (see Kerry's bad joke).

[solvs]

You know, this is just... well, I'll just post it:

Hillary Clinton Ad Features Osama Bin Laden (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/21/campaign-adwatch-panic-on_n_97767.html) :rolleyes:

And Obama's camp's response:

When Senator Clinton voted with President Bush to authorize the war in Iraq, she made a tragically bad decision that diverted our military from the terrorists who attacked us, and allowed Osama bin Laden to escape and regenerate his terrorist network.
This is why people hate both parties. What is wrong with you people? I mean, come on, seriously? :mad:

[LouisBlack]

This is why people hate both parties. What is wrong with you people? I mean, come on, seriously? :mad:

Douche Vs Turd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche_and_Turd) anybody?

[leekohler]

You know, this is just... well, I'll just post it:

Hillary Clinton Ad Features Osama Bin Laden (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/21/campaign-adwatch-panic-on_n_97767.html) :rolleyes:

And Obama's camp's response:


This is why people hate both parties. What is wrong with you people? I mean, come on, seriously? :mad:

I can't really disagree with Obama's response.

[skunk]

I was not aware that the Democratic Party had a left wing. :confused:

[leekohler]

I was not aware that the Democratic Party had a left wing. :confused:

They don't. But there's always Ralph Nader. :rolleyes:

[zioxide]

I'm really getting sick of all of this ********. They just need to end this election already.

[leekohler]

I'm really getting sick of all of this ********. They just need to end this election already.

Yes they do. But Hillary won't ever quit! She probably won't even if she doesn't get the nomination. Mark my words. She'll take down the whole party if she has to.

[yojitani]

Yes they do. But Hillary won't ever quit! She probably won't even if she doesn't get the nomination. Mark my words. She'll take down the whole party if she has to.

Did you catch John Stewart's joke about this last night? Something along the lines of 'will she still be campaigning when you're in the White House?'

[Virgil-TB2]

If you want to wear a button on your lapel that has a flag on it, fine. If you want to wear one that says "George Bush sucks!" ... fine again. But when you *have* to wear a particular pin or label to merely be considered a normal human being, then you're in trouble.

This is exactly what Hitler did in the WWII days. If you have the swastika "label" you are okay. If you have the pink triangle or the star of david ... Watch out!

What's next? Beating people up who don't wear the flag? How about religious pins so we can pick out the atheists?

Bleh. The USA makes me sick sometimes.

On top of that, has anyone noticed the intense irony of the fact that the very same people who would probably shoot someone for burning the flag, or wearing flag-design clothing, are those saying that everyone should wear the pin?

I mean where is the reasoning there? The US flag is sacrosanct, so the government should prosecute people for wearing it, but on the other hand, all US citizens should wear it to show how patriotic they are??? WTF? :confused:

[solvs]

I can't really disagree with Obama's response.
I don't necessarily disagree, but the way it was phrased was kinda dickish when I expect better for some reason (it wasn't him who said it though, it was someone on the campaign).

I was not aware that the Democratic Party had a left wing. :confused:
They do kinda, it's just smaller and less an important (or even cared about) part of the party than the far right is to the GOP (less heard from too).

I mean where is the reasoning there? The US flag is sacrosanct, so the government should prosecute people for wearing it, but on the other hand, all US citizens should wear it to show how patriotic they are??? WTF? :confused:
Doesn't have to make sense. Most of them don't wear it either anyway. But it's like having a yellow flag somewhere that says support the troops, while not actually doing anything to support them. Often supporting the people who vote against things like the new GI Bill, or vote for funding for companies that have already been convicted of selling them faulty equipment, continuing to refuse to support any oversight.

[solvs]

Colorado House Rep. Doug Bruce barred from speaking after 'illiterate' remark (http://origin.denverpost.com/rapids/ci_9003612)

Disparaging remarks aimed at migrant workers got resident House rabble-rouser Douglas Bruce banned from speaking on a temporary-worker bill today.

"We don't need 5,000 more illiterate peasants in the state of Colorado," Bruce, R-Colorado Springs, told the chamber to an audible gasp.

Rep. Kathleen Curry, leading the House at the time, immediately barred Bruce from speaking at the podium, an uncommon maneuver.

"How dare you?" she asked Bruce, before House members moved back to discussion of a bill aimed at helping seasonal farm workers from other countries enter the state legally on a temporary basis.

The pilot program, which sets up liaisons in Mexico to assist foreign workers, would allow up to 5,000 laborers into Colorado
over five years.

Ind. congressional candidate speaks at meeting honoring Adolf Hitler (http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/04/congressional-c.html)

A congressional candidate appeared last Sunday at a birthday party for Adolf Hitler.

Yes, that Adolf Hitler. The one who brought us World War II and the Holocaust.

"I told (WNDU-TV in South Bend, Ind.) in the beginning that I'd speak to any group that wanted me to speak," Tony Zirkle, a candidate for the Republican nomination in Indiana's 2nd district, tells The News-Dispatch, adding: "I'm keeping my promise. I'll speak to any group. (The National Socialist Workers Party) was interested in the targeting of white people for prostitution."

The lawyer addressed 56 "white activists" at a meeting in Chicago, according to the paper, which published a photo that shows him standing in front of a large portrait of Hitler.

We counted at least three swastikas in the photograph.

The Associated Press says Zirkle compared his decision to address the American National Socialist Workers Party to George Bush's decision to speak at Bob Jones University during the 2000 presidential election.

"Some people are going to impute motives and say things that I mean, but many of these people have never even talked to me. So their ability to say what I intended is not very credible," Zirkle tells the wire service.

Asked if he agrees with the Nazis' racist ideology, the News-Dispatch reports that Zirkle demurred, saying "he didn't know enough about the group to either favor it or oppose it."
Classy.