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ezekielrage_99
Apr 21, 2008, 08:21 PM
I'm getting back into web development and was wondering if anyone could recommend a good CSS book or resource.

Cheers :apple:



tschoftner
Apr 22, 2008, 03:00 AM
I'm getting back into web development and was wondering if anyone could recommend a good CSS book or resource.

Cheers :apple:

Hello!
I have been (and still are) finding the following site as quite useful:
http://www.dynamicdrive.com

or if you're more into Javascript, I found the following quite useful as well:

http://script.aculo.us/

Best wishes and greetings,

Thomas

tominated
Apr 22, 2008, 04:38 AM
welovecss.com = forum thing about css
smashingmagazine.com = the best webzine

InLikeALion
Apr 22, 2008, 08:15 AM
I sent you a PM about sending you some links.

Also, before you get wrapped up in script.aculo.us, look into some other libraries as well, like jQuery, which are faster and more streamlined.

jng
Apr 22, 2008, 09:42 AM
Learn CSS: http://w3schools.com/css/default.asp

That is a great place to start for beginners. But the real learning comes when you build sites, come into problems and resolve those problems.

Tilpots
Apr 22, 2008, 10:32 AM
Learn CSS: http://w3schools.com/css/default.asp

That is a great place to start for beginners. But the real learning comes when you build sites, come into problems and resolve those problems.

I'm trying to teach myself how to build a website using W3 Schools' site. They tutorials are thorough, but I agree that the real test will be when I actually build a site. It's hard to learn without asking questions, IMO.

Has anyone gone this route, and how did it work out for you?

angelwatt
Apr 22, 2008, 12:21 PM
I'm trying to teach myself how to build a website using W3 Schools' site. They tutorials are thorough, but I agree that the real test will be when I actually build a site. It's hard to learn without asking questions, IMO.

Has anyone gone this route, and how did it work out for you?

I'm self taught. I've used various resources from the Internet including the W3 Schools site. I think it does very well to lay out the basics for you, but you'll want to find other resources afterwards as it lacks in real world examples. I also like how it covers so many languages for the web. I've gone through nearly all of them and always learned some good things.

The CCS Zen Garden (http://www.csszengarden.com/) is a great place for inspiration as to what CSS is capable of. I don't generally look at the CSS people are using, but just seeing what has been done gives me a ton of ideas.

You're already off to a good start by asking questions. When I first started I was using MS Word as I saw it could save as HTML, but quickly found that it was a wolf in sheep's clothing more than anything. Luckily I was willing to learn to hand code and that's when things really started moving forward. Unfortunately at the time table designs were the norm so learned things the bad way first until I discovered CSS.

macsrules
Apr 22, 2008, 10:28 PM
This is a really good resource.

1. http://www.alistapart.com/

They have a really good article with the code for inserting flash into a page by hand.

jng
Apr 24, 2008, 09:01 AM
I'm trying to teach myself how to build a website using W3 Schools' site. They tutorials are thorough, but I agree that the real test will be when I actually build a site. It's hard to learn without asking questions, IMO.

Has anyone gone this route, and how did it work out for you?

Worked out great. Ran into problems, posted the problems and someone would give me the answer and in that way I slowly learned to do websites entirely in CSS/XHTML.

It also requires patience though, more than designing in tables did. I think CSS/XHTML is more technical than table layouting was and for that reason, many people give up pretty quickly. But many try it again after a while.

Tilpots
Apr 24, 2008, 09:24 AM
Glad to hear people have had success with the W3Schools. I'm still plugging away and haven't run into major issues, but when I do, I'll know where to post!:D

Photomax
Apr 24, 2008, 12:07 PM
There are a lot of technical people that can build sites...

There are a lot of people who can design...

There are far fewer who can do both.

I stumbled around with doing sites and always struggled with the code. Then I discovered CSS and really liked it. So much so I sort of switched gears and now do sites for a living.

Building sites is about three main things (for me at least): creating the design (usually with Photoshop) and then being able to look at the design and "see" what the markup needs to be. Then comes the CSS...

Part of getting good with CSS is to write good markup (XHTML). A lot of frustration that comes with browser issues is not with the CSS but with the markup. If you have well structured markup that validates then the CSS is SO much easier.

Reading books and taking tutorials helps but at some point you have to practice making the cake "from scratch..."

Good Luck!

Max

macsig
Apr 24, 2008, 12:17 PM
Below the 2 websites I usually look at when I need some CSS references

http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/

http://reference.sitepoint.com/css


Hope this helps