Sexual Orientation

[catfish743]

After a trip in the photo section of macrumors I was prompted to start this thread and poll. As a homosexual guy I was curious to see who else out there has gone through the same things as I have in regards to sexual orientation. And if you're not gay, feel free to post that too. I would just like to see people on another side, more than just an icon and screenname.

Two request: One, please respect everyone regardless of their sexual orientation. I want this to be a non hostile environment for other people to express who they are, gay, straight, or whatever. Two, if you have any questions about sexual orientation, need help, are suffering from harassment, need someone to talk to, or are EVER in danger of hurting someone else or yourself, please contact me. I will be more than glad to listen and if I can't help, I will try to put you in contact with someone who can.

Please feel free to post about your sexual orientation, your experiences, single or with someone, whatever you want that pertains to this topic.
Thanks again.

And BTW I'll be the first to say that I'm gay. (and single)

[wordmunger]

Just curious: what's the difference between "not sure/undecided" and "questioning"?

[leekohler]

After a trip in the photo section of macrumors I was prompted to start this thread and poll. As a homosexual guy I was curious to see who else out there has gone through the same things as I have in regards to sexual orientation. And if you're not gay, feel free to post that too. I would just like to see people on another side, more than just an icon and screenname.

Two request: One, please respect everyone regardless of their sexual orientation. I want this to be a non hostile environment for other people to express who they are, gay, straight, or whatever. Two, if you have any questions about sexual orientation, need help, are suffering from harassment, need someone to talk to, or are EVER in danger of hurting someone else or yourself, please contact me. I will be more than glad to listen and if I can't help, I will try to put you in contact with someone who can.

Please feel free to post about your sexual orientation, your experiences, single or with someone, whatever you want that pertains to this topic.
Thanks again.

And BTW I'll be the first to say that I'm gay. (and single)

Uh-oh, this could end up being another "Gayway Thread" disaster. To the OP, there was a thread such as this that existed a few years ago. It got out of control and was shut down, resulting in a lot of hurt feelings and many members leaving. Not saying that has to be the case here, but just be careful.

[Gray-Wolf]

Wouldn't this be more sutied for the restricted forum above, The religion/politics/soicial issues?

[newappleboy]

I'm a single gay male in the Dallas area. Began to question myself in middle school and knew by 7th grade what I was. Took me until 10th grade to truly accept it and begin living my life, but I can't change the past.

As I'm sure is the case with many teens, especially homosexuals, suicide was a very common thought when I was younger. Never sure of myself and always in fear of what others thought and said about me, I didn't want to deal with it. Nobody does. I found someone online when I was 13 and almost took a bus to meet this stranger just because he was nice and friendly and pretty much the only person who showed any interest in me. My parents caught me at the bus station and saved me from myself. Such is merely one drama of my crazy experiences in life thus far.

[Abstract]

Why have all non-straight people been clumped into a single group?

You spent the time spelling all that out, so why not just spend the extra 30 seconds to make them individual options?

[Father Jack]

Married and straight.

[Krafty]

Single & Straight.

[j26]

I'm straight, but shirt-lifting (;)) activity has never bothered me. I have some friends who are gay and my cousin is a lesbian who has recently had a baby (through IVF) with her life partner. It's not an issue for me.

The one thing that surprises me is the level of promiscuity that i see among some (but not all) of my friends who are gay. I would have thought that in this day and age a slightly more careful attitude would be the order of the day. I have to say I don't know any straight people who are as promiscuous as one or two of the sausage jockeys (;)) I know.

[newappleboy]

The one thing that surprises me is the level of promiscuity that i see among some (but not all) of my friends who are gay. I would have thought that in this day and age a slightly more careful attitude would be the order of the day. I have to say I don't know any straight people who are as promiscuous as one or two of the sausage jockeys (;)) I know.

I agree, which is one of the reasons I'm still single. I believe in monogamy when in a relationship, and at least a little discretion when not. I just can't bring myself to date someone who has to have an excel spreadsheet to keep up with past intimacies and gets tested numerous times a year "just to be sure". Promiscuity is a common theme in the gay community, that's for sure.

[calculus]

shirt-lifting

sausage jockeys

Could we have separate categories for these two groupings as well. I think it would help ...

[swingerofbirch]

I don't identify as gay or straight.

I'm coy. :rolleyes:

[Queso]

Promiscuity is a common theme in the gay community, that's for sure.
That's because the gay scene is nearly completely geared towards sexual behaviour. I think many young gay people start to think that this is the way they fit in, because the scene is their only outlet for meeting other gay people. In those areas where there is a larger gay population you're much more likely to find gays who are more comfortable around monogamy and form friendships amongst themselves based on other criteria. Not saying their aren't monogamous gay relationships out there away from the cities, just that percentage wise I think there's more in the metropolitan areas.

[Father Jack]

Could we have separate categories for these two groupings as well. I think it would help ...

Yes that would be a good idea.

[jimN]

Have you ever been to a night club? Straight people can be pretty promiscuous too. It all depends on where you choose to observe the behaviour of your different groups. You can subscribe to the notion that gay men meet in toilets and that straight men just have sex within marriage or you can recognise that both groups will have their more promiscuous elements.

[ucfgrad93]

Married, straight, 2 kids.:D

[newappleboy]

That's because the gay scene is nearly completely geared towards sexual behaviour. I think many young gay people start to think that this is the way they fit in, because the scene is their only outlet for meeting other gay people. In those areas where there is a larger gay population you're much more likely to find gays who are more comfortable around monogamy and form friendships amongst themselves based on other criteria. Not saying their aren't monogamous gay relationships out there away from the cities, just that percentage wise I think there's more in the metropolitan areas.

I agree to a certain extent. I believe a large portion of it is right along those lines, but I think there's something psychologically deeper to it as well.

The gay population is nowhere near as vast as the 10% people seem to think is real. We'd be lucky if it's 2% or 3% - that's just realistic. Out of that small population of the world, the chances of finding someone you can connect with on an emotional level and developing a lasting relationship with are incredibly slim. Because of this, I think gay people (more specifically the men) resort to just accepting life for what they can get, and having sex. They may not get the emotional fulfillment, but they get sexual satisfaction and the brief feeling of being special.

[nomar383]

Straight with a beautiful girlfriend, to each his own I guess

[Raid]

This thread reminds me of my bi friend; whenever she was asked "What is your sexual orientation?" She'd always say "South, cause sooner or later that's where I'm goin'!" :) She's hilarious, and quite aggressive...
For me I'm straight, married and supportive of my friends with 'other' orientations. :cool:

[j26]

Have you ever been to a night club? Straight people can be pretty promiscuous too. It all depends on where you choose to observe the behaviour of your different groups. You can subscribe to the notion that gay men meet in toilets and that straight men just have sex within marriage or you can recognise that both groups will have their more promiscuous elements.

True, I was no angel myself, but some of the people I know take it to a far higher level than I ever took it to when I was on the singles scene. I've been to a couple of gay clubs with my mates and the atmosphere is far more sexually charged than any "straight" night club I've been to.

Maybe I just know some absolute tarts, but what I've seen does indicate to me a more promiscuous atmosphere. Of course, on the other hand I do know people with long term relationships, and people who are single, but not into that scene, but on balance I'd say it's more promiscuous.

[Santa Rosa]

Driving down the road with no corners, although I do fancy SJ :)

[riscy]

East

[NotFound]

I'm gay and in a very monogamous relationship. It's never interested me in having multiple partners not only because of the risk of disease, but because I know my thoughts of people I personally know who choose that. I would never want someone to not consider me qualified for... well... anything because of a decision.

I'll be the first to tell you too that finding a partner who is as strongly opinionated about monogamy as you are can be difficult. But the wait is well worth it. Don't ever settle for anything less than what you absolutely want. :D

[muldul]

I'm Straight. I'm currently in secondary school (High school). I hear of people who were beat up or bullied for being Homosexual or bisexual when they went to school, but i find it is a different case at my school. There are many openly gay people and instead of being teased they are repected for being open. Is this a normal thing in all schools now or is my school just special.

[NotFound]

I'm Straight. I'm currently in secondary school (High school). I hear of people who were beat up or bullied for being Homosexual or bisexual when they went to school, but i find it is a different case at my school. There are many openly gay people and instead of being teased they are repected for being open. Is this a normal thing in all schools now or is my school just special.

As compared to my high school experience, I wish I had gone to your high school. I wouldn't say I was 'bullied' as much as made fun of behind my back and rarely to my face.

Safety among young homosexuals is something that concerns me. And I'm only 19! I know of several girls who went to my high school who were lesbians and were constantly teased and harassed by other girls. It's sad, but truthful.

These kind of cases are what truly scare me to death:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMEL3_YsVI

[Macaddicttt]

In response to the promiscuity question, the single biggest complaint I have with the LGBTQ group here on campus is that they seem to only have two functions: "lectures" about sex, or crying "hate crime" the moment a slur is uttered. The first "function" is so prevalent on campus here that I think the group does far more harm than good to promote LGBTQ tolerance, especially since I am on a Catholic (albeit liberal) campus that values monogamy very highly. It seems to give homosexuals a bad name.

To be fair, though, the Catholic environment could be thought of as so stifling (although I don't really see it as stifling here, but actually quite open), that the reactions against it are that much stronger.

[Teh Don Ditty]

I'm kinda curious where this thread his gonna end up heading. I hope we can all be civil here and not judge or bash a person simply by their sexual orientation.

I'm single and straight FTR.

[newappleboy]

I'm Straight. I'm currently in secondary school (High school). I hear of people who were beat up or bullied for being Homosexual or bisexual when they went to school, but i find it is a different case at my school. There are many openly gay people and instead of being teased they are repected for being open. Is this a normal thing in all schools now or is my school just special.

It really just depends on the school. I went to two high schools due to moving around. At one I was respected and treated as a human being, and at the other I went back "into the closet" due to the intensely homophobic views of practically everyone in the school, administration included. I wasn't ready for that after such an accepting environment, so I hid part of who I was. It was a miserable year.

[ghall]

I'm straight, but my girlfriend is bi. It's actually kind of fun. :p

[leekohler]

In response to the promiscuity question, the single biggest complaint I have with the LGBTQ group here on campus is that they seem to only have two functions: "lectures" about sex, or crying "hate crime" the moment a slur is uttered. The first "function" is so prevalent on campus here that I think the group does far more harm than good to promote LGBTQ tolerance, especially since I am on a Catholic (albeit liberal) campus that values monogamy very highly. It seems to give homosexuals a bad name.

To be fair, though, the Catholic environment could be thought of as so stifling (although I don't really see it as stifling here, but actually quite open), that the reactions against it are that much stronger.

You're also dealing mainly with young people who are going to be pretty sensitive and react a lot more strongly to any given situation. Look at it that way and maybe it'll make more sense. Also, most of them have probably recently come out. And that is like going through puberty all over again, trust me. It's a very tough time.

[MacNut]

It would be nice to have this discussion stay civil.

Straight and single here.

Ok not to stir the put here but is bisexual sometimes considered confused? I know people can like both but is there an underlining deciding factor and they are just saying both to use as an excuse. If it is 50/50 fine but if the scale is tilted what is that considered.

[nomar383]

I'm straight, but my girlfriend is bi. It's actually kind of fun. :p

Didn't I read a thread recently where you were gonna take a break from posting? Maybe that was someone else... lol :)

[raggedjimmi]

Straight as something straight!


I went out with a lesbian once, that wasn't fun.

[MacNut]

Straight as something straight!


I went out with a lesbian once, that wasn't fun.Did you meet any of her friends.

[raggedjimmi]

Did you meet any of her friends.

In a way. It's a nice little story suitable for a Mills and Boon. In a nutshell

Chapter I
Boy goes out with lesbian for a month. They split up and he started seeing a fit as hell girl, but fit as hell girl already has boyfriend. They mess around a little and it's all fun and joy but knows it can't carry on. Fit as hell girl then introduces you to her best friend, who just so happens to be your own best friends cousin. Go out with girl for a week before dumping her after a gig* as the fit as hell girl wants you back again. Nothing works out and school relationships are then doomed.

Chapter II
Boy meets girl at college and they've been going out 5 and a half years.

*lowest point.

[Xfujinon]

Straight and married.

I've evaluated carefully the prospect of being bi, but it eventually turns out that although I seem to build stronger friendships with men, I really have no kind of sexual fascination whatsoever for me, despite several of my bi friends being very forward in the past.

I dated a bisexual girl for awhile, and I DID ONE TIME I SWEAR TO GOD NO BS NOT LYING SERIOUS HONEST I made out with both of them at once, but it was frightfully awkward. Never again.

No trouble with anyone, never really was overly concerned with the "moral controversy" BS. I've always had gay friends and coworkers, I don't think much about it.

[Jaffa Cake]

I'm a boy and I like girls. It's a simple system but one that's held me in good stead over the years. :)

[BrianDavid0523]

I'm gay - single and free to a good home!

BTW - I'm looking to recruit straights! Watch out!

[RedTomato]

Ok not to stir the put here but is bisexual sometimes considered confused? I know people can like both but is there an underlining deciding factor and they are just saying both to use as an excuse. If it is 50/50 fine but if the scale is tilted what is that considered.

Bi with a preference for one or the other.

Oh, and me personally? Hmm. I don't fit into any of the categories above :)

[leekohler]

Bi with a preference for one or the other.

Oh, and me personally? Hmm. I don't fit into any of the categories above :)

I thought tomatoes were asexual. :)

[question fear]

I am a big ol' lesbian, with the world's greatest girlfriend.

As for this thread, I remember how messy things got in the past with these...for now I am going to watch and wait. Hopefully we can all be mature.

[Dustman]

I'm gay - but tend to make out with the odd girl if alcohol is present.

Odd as in not often, not as in.. odd.

[BigPrince]

My feelings are straight, but I choose to lead an asexual lifestyle.

[Macaddicttt]

You're also dealing mainly with young people who are going to be pretty sensitive and react a lot more strongly to any given situation. Look at it that way and maybe it'll make more sense. Also, most of them have probably recently come out. And that is like going through puberty all over again, trust me. It's a very tough time.

I have no doubt it's a tough time, and I give them the benefit of the doubt. The problem is, I don't think most people do.

[skunk]

Ok not to stir the put here but is bisexual sometimes considered confused? I know people can like both but is there an underlining deciding factor and they are just saying both to use as an excuse. If it is 50/50 fine but if the scale is tilted what is that considered.It's a full spectrum from 100% hetero to 100% homo and everything in between, but people tend to label themselves as one thing or another even if they have variable orientation, because both they and others tend to feel more comfortable and secure that way.

[Foxglove9]

What about a choice for Bisexuals? How about Asexual?

And you can be straight AND Transgender, so maybe it should say "click all that apply"

Me, I'm bi, but mostly straight.

[Keebler]

straight, married, 2 kids and loving it.

i love watching lesbians for some reason :) lol i guess it's 2 of everything...some weird fantasy I imagine.

let's hope this thread does stay nice.

imho, there's enough violence and tyranny in the world that i don't think it matters who loves who, as long as they do and they respect each other. the world would be a much better place if we just accepted each other for who we are.

i would get into by saying that i think it's ironic that the bible doesn't appreciate homosexuals yet the main historic area/birth of the bible, is constantly in war, but i'm not going to say it. :)

[leekohler]

I have no doubt it's a tough time, and I give them the benefit of the doubt. The problem is, I don't think most people do.

Of course not. And that's too bad.

[Macaddicttt]

Of course not. And that's too bad.

Yes it is.

[catfish743]

I'm so glad to have so many responses and so much interest thus far.
I as well hope we can remain civil and we seem to be doing a good job thus far.
As for why I grouped the options as such: Historically, they are listed as such. There are not separate groups and movements for each of the individuals subgroups, though such groups might pop up eventually. Sexual orientation is usually classified as normal and then otherwise. Though I can see a different and better way to organize such terms and if I can rework the poll then I will. I am sorry it caused some grievances.

As for the rest of the post, let us try to keep an air of civility as we have been doing. It is interesting to see the poll results thus far.

[sycho]

That's because the gay scene is nearly completely geared towards sexual behaviour. I think many young gay people start to think that this is the way they fit in, because the scene is their only outlet for meeting other gay people.

It is totally like that where I live. I know it is not right, but I still can't help to think that is the only way I will meet other gay people. Thankfully I have be able to control myself for the most part and have only had one **** **** up.
I do regret remaining in the closet for so long, because most of my close friends that I now have did manage to have at-least one successful relationship, but like you said, it seems like most gays start being slutty to fit in.

Anyhow... Single and have the gay here.

[tMac85]

straight ...girlfriend. soon to be engaged. ( and broke!:D)

[iTattoo]

And we have one child via surrogacy and in the process of creating #2. Children to be linked genetically via surrogate, and we will each be the bio father of one of them.

[mogzieee]

I am taken and straight,

however, i was surprised to see that amount of non straight votes. I think this was an interesting thread - thanks for bringing it up.

[iTattoo]

I am taken and straight,

however, i was surprised to see that amount of non straight votes. I think this was an interesting thread - thanks for bringing it up.

Maybe an Apple computer is the modern day toaster oven. ;)

[leekohler]

And we have one child via surrogacy and in the process of creating #2. Children to be linked genetically via surrogate, and we will each be the bio father of one of them.

Good for you guys, man! Congrats!

[iTattoo]

Good for you guys, man! Congrats!

Thank you - it's been a long time coming. 12 years so far.

[Flenz]

straight and bent...! :D

[nomar383]

straight ...girlfriend. soon to be engaged. ( and broke!:D)

I think being broke is one universal thing when talking about a relationship :)

[LeahM]

I have a boyfriend but I don't believe in marriage (for myself)

[Mr Skills]

I'm gay - single and free to a good home!

BTW - I'm looking to recruit straights! Watch out!

Do you get a free toaster?

[leekohler]

Do you get a free toaster?

Oh yes, of course! There's a whole catalog that you get to choose your free gift from. It's called The Gay Agenda Gift Catalog®. Perhaps you've heard of it? :)

Oh- plus free one year membership in The Gay Agenda Club®. :D

[paleck]

Gay and Single looking for a boyfriend and not a hookup. :D

[iJohnHenry]

Do you get a free toaster?

Something will pop up.

So, this is confirming what I suspected in my failed attempt at a similar poll last week. Got my knuckles rapped for it. :mad:

We are way over the national average of gays/lesbians per population, which confirms my suspicions. :D

Macs are for self-assured people (as outed gays/lesbians have to be), with a creative bent (usually very intelligent), and a taste for adventure (I won't go there). ;)

[ipodtoucher]

I'm gay and single...but I'm not out to my parents...they would murder me...well my mom told me that she would kick me out of the house and my family would disown me....so i live a secret life:( which isn't fun, despite what people think.... I'm single and ready to mingle, so send me a message, we can talk it out haha This sounds like a personal ad....

Referring to other people's posts (i just didn't feel like quoting), I went to a rich, preppy high school, even though i wasn't rich, where no one in the whole school was out, for fear or ridicule and persecution...hence why I wasn't out haha...but when I graduated last year, two girls came out and lived life as it was just any day...partially because they were so tough they could beat anyone down...

God this is long, I'm sorry...well in conclusion, I'm gay, single and ready to mingle...thats all for now haha

[BillyBobBongo]

Straight, Married...no kids...and no intention of having any either! ;)

[maxrobertson]

In response to the promiscuity question, the single biggest complaint I have with the LGBTQ group here on campus is that they seem to only have two functions: "lectures" about sex, or crying "hate crime" the moment a slur is uttered. The first "function" is so prevalent on campus here that I think the group does far more harm than good to promote LGBTQ tolerance, especially since I am on a Catholic (albeit liberal) campus that values monogamy very highly. It seems to give homosexuals a bad name.

To be fair, though, the Catholic environment could be thought of as so stifling (although I don't really see it as stifling here, but actually quite open), that the reactions against it are that much stronger.

Well, how many Catholics do you know that are abstinent or even non-slutty? I'm only going from personal experience, but I've only met one catholic (and she was only considered Catholic because her parents were) that wasn't an extreme slut, guys included.

But yeah, it definitely seems like gay guys are really promiscuous and girls are really monogamous, especially in the media.

[Prof.]

I'm gay and single but you all knew (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=456575) that already.:D:cool:

http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/gay-flag.jpg
^ I just had to post that.:D

[CalBoy]

And we have one child via surrogacy and in the process of creating #2. Children to be linked genetically via surrogate, and we will each be the bio father of one of them.

Congrats! That's so cool! :)

When I'm ready to have kids, I might want that or adoption, but it's nice to know that the option is out there and waiting for me and anyone else who wants it.

Gay and Single looking for a boyfriend and not a hookup. :D

Ain't that the truth.

It's surprisingly hard to find even if you're straight, and when you're gay it's ten times harder.

Oh yeah, I'm gay and single.

[Prof.]

I'm gay and single...but I'm not out to my parents...they would murder me...well my mom told me that she would kick me out of the house and my family would disown me..
Awww... you could come live with me!:p:D

[leekohler]

Straight, Married...no kids...and no intention of having any either! ;)

Don't you get penalized for that? Isn't there some rule that you must procreate? ;) ...counting the minutes til this thread ends up in the political forum...

[/B]
Awww... you could come live with me!:p:D

Give it a few years boys. It takes time. Don't worry, you'll find somebody.

[Prof.]

Give it a few years boys. It takes time. Don't worry, you'll find somebody.
We should listen to Lee, he's the real gay god.:D:cool:

(I say "Real" so that no one is confused with this gay god (http://www.myspace.com/gaygod))

[PlaceofDis]

straight... dating a wonderful person. :)

[leekohler]

straight... dating a wonderful person. :)

Yes, you are!

We should listen to Lee, he's the real gay god.:D:cool:

(I say "Real" so that no one is confused with this gay god (http://www.myspace.com/gaygod))

I am? :confused::eek::D

[PlaceofDis]

Yes, you are!

she says:

"awwwwww" which translates to thank you. :D

[leekohler]

she says:

"awwwwww" which translates to thank you. :D

Tell her to get on here and post that herself! :)

[blackfox]

Straight and recently single.

I do get mistaken as gay, however, as I tend to:

(a) Take care of my grooming/personal hygiene rather noticeably (eg. copious amounts of hair-product in bathroom)
(b) Dress rather fashionably
(c) I am a slight-build with a "pretty" face.
(d) Very interested in design, and my home is neat, modern and reflects a large amount of effort and money spent on aesthetics.

I realize the above are stereotypes - but I guess people still subscribe to them...

[ms.gio]

straight... dating a wonderful person. :)

Aw, thank you dear. I'm blushing.

Yes, you are!

Thanks Lee.


she says:

"awwwwww" which translates to thank you. :D
Yup, it does!

[BillyBobBongo]

Don't you get penalized for that? Isn't there some rule that you must procreate? ;)


I'm happy to put in the practice! ;) ;)

[leekohler]

Aw, thank you dear. I'm blushing.



Thanks Lee.



Yup, it does!

There she is! :)

Straight and recently single.

I do get mistaken as gay, however, as I tend to:

(a) Take care of my grooming/personal hygiene rather noticeably (eg. copious amounts of hair-product in bathroom)
(b) Dress rather fashionably
(c) I am a slight-build with a "pretty" face.
(d) Very interested in design, and my home is neat, modern and reflects a large amount of effort and money spent on aesthetics.

I realize the above are stereotypes - but I guess people still subscribe to them...

Haha! Yep- I just looked at your pics in the MR pics thread and my gaydar went WAY off! :)

[ms.gio]

There she is! :)
Haha! Yep- I just looked at your pics in the MR pics thread and my gaydar went WAY off! :)

Hi Lee!

[leekohler]

Hi Lee!

Are you kids behaving yourselves? ;)

[FoxyKaye]

Definitely Queer here. Though I've been pretty open about it on MR.

I guess I don't immediately jump to Bi or Lesbian since each term carries some baggage.

I also tend to use Queer to describe myself because of its roots in Queer Nation, ACT-UP, the Lesbian Avengers, and Dyke March, all of which I've participated in at one time or another. Plus, I see it as a less assimilationist term, which is where I feel unfortunately the greater Gay movement is headed.

[zap2]

I'm straight...honestly I think people make a huge deal our of orientation.

Give everyone same legals rights and protections, and who the heck cares?


(I had a friend of mines parent ask me onceif any gays had "tried to convert me"...that question caught me off guard!)

[NotFound]

(I had a friend of mines parent ask me onceif any gays had "tried to convert me"...that question caught me off guard!)

Heh, who let the cat out of the bag?

[FoxyKaye]

(I had a friend of mines parent ask me onceif any gays had "tried to convert me"...that question caught me off guard!)
To like, Buddhism or something? :D

[Cassie]

I'm Bi, realized it about two years ago. I'm single, but for right now, I'm happy with that.

[sycho]

To like, Buddhism or something? :D
My good friends told me to try to find out if another one of our good friends was gay. I was told that if he wasn't, that I was to make him gay. :p

[iJohnHenry]

Like taking a pill, or something?? :D

[sycho]

Like taking a pill, or something?? :D

Nah, I'm sure he would be pretty easy to seduce. :P

[mikelcroft]

gay. (:

[ipodtoucher]

gay. (:

heehee nice and simple post....:cool:

[Surely]

Straight and married.

We used to live in Toronto, and it made us very proud to be Canadian when same-sex marriage (finally) became legal in Canada.

[mikelcroft]

heehee nice and simple post....:cool:
Hah, guess I'm just a simple kinda guy. xD

[ipodtoucher]

Hah, guess I'm just a simple kinda guy. xD

I need you in my life....wOw thats a little forward hahahaha:cool:

[sycho]

gay. (:

I'll be honest, the cute pink shoes gave it away. :p:)

[mikelcroft]

I need you in my life....wOw thats a little forward hahahaha:cool:
haha, Just a tad. xD

I'll be honest, the cute pink shoes gave it away. :p:)
Duude.
My hot pink vans rule. xD
They get lots of attention. lol

[sycho]

haha, Just a tad. xD


Duude.
My hot pink vans rule. xD
They get lots of attention. lol

I know. :p Just mine are kind of uncomfy and fell apart after a few days. :( Last set of Vans I'll get.

[ipodtoucher]

haha, Just a tad. xD

Yeah sorry 'bout that....Let's start from square one...

Hi, my name is Wes

How are you doing today?

:p

[mikelcroft]

I know. :p Just mine are kind of uncomfy and fell apart after a few days. :( Last set of Vans I'll get.
Those are kinda wicked.
My vans are the most comfortable pair of shoes I own.
I refuse to ever toss them out. xD

I suppose I should take my OT maundering out of this thread. lol

edit: nevermind.

Yeah sorry 'bout that....Let's start from square one...

Hi, my name is Wes

How are you doing today?

:p
No worries. xD

Hello Wes, pleased to meet you. I'm Mikel.
It's pronounced like Michael, people often mispronounce it, I really don't understand why. It's simple, really.
Anyway, I'm doing fine, today has been extremely uneventful, I guess I should get off my arse and get a job if I'd like to change that, but hey. lol
How about you? xD

[sycho]

Those are kinda wicked.
My vans are the most comfortable pair of shoes I own.
I refuse to ever toss them out. xD

I suppose I should take my OT maundering out of this thread. lol
It's not like the thread was going much further anyway. Talking about shoes and see you get hit on over a forum is much more fun. :P
I do believe we three also claimed the Pic with Significant Other thread. hehehe

[JNB]

Straight, but more gay/lesbian friends then most, I suppose. I've always been more of a "who the hell cares" kind of person, never gave one's sexual predilections much thought or concern. Never offended, sometimes flattered, never interested nor even curious, really.

I like MR for the reason that "most" of us are able to discuss relationships & experiences pretty openly (with some fairly collegial teasing/bantering), and nobody--for the most part--is threatened by another POV or preference. If they are, they're generally good enough to just keep it to themselves.

[Prof.]

I'm gonna make a chat room on AIM for the three of you. How's that sound?:p:D

[sycho]

I'm gonna make a chat room on AIM for the three of you. How's that sound?:p:D

AIM... Come on, we are better then AIM, at least I am, since AIM isn't too popular in Canada.

[mikelcroft]

It's not like the thread was going much further anyway. Talking about shoes and see you get hit on over a forum is much more fun. :P
I do believe we three also claimed the Pic with Significant Other thread. hehehe
Ha, 'tis pretty entertaining indeed. xD
Serious, meaningful discussions are completely overrated. :rolleyes:
I'm gonna make a chat room on AIM for the three of you. How's that sound?:p:D
Exciting.

*dies*

:p

[CalBoy]

I'm amazed to see that MR has such a strong and well represented gay community. :)

I suppose it's the clean aesthetics and sexiness of Macs that makes the difference. :p

[Sutekidane]

gay.

[Abstract]

I must be straight. I'm sitting at the uni library right now, and I can't stop staring at all the hot girls here. It's crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy horny. I don't know what I am. Is the library usually this full of hot girls?

[mcarnes]

I must be straight. I'm sitting at the uni library right now, and I can't stop staring at all the hot girls here. It's crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy horny. I don't know what I am. Is the library usually this full of hot girls?

Photos?

[Xfujinon]

pics or it didn't happen.





(the weather is getting nicer, and all of the breasts are emerging from their winter hibernation to emerge back out into the open spring air. While riding my bike home today, I almost crashed three times. Do you ever have that moment when you see someone whose looks force you to lock on, even for a moment? Don't do it in traffic.


...oh, and so I don't seem like a total hoser, my wife is very hot, and I lurv it when she wears sun dresses, which are coming into season soon!).

[iMacZealot]

Straight and recently single.

I do get mistaken as gay, however, as I tend to:

(a) Take care of my grooming/personal hygiene rather noticeably (eg. copious amounts of hair-product in bathroom)
(b) Dress rather fashionably
(c) I am a slight-build with a "pretty" face.
(d) Very interested in design, and my home is neat, modern and reflects a large amount of effort and money spent on aesthetics.

I realize the above are stereotypes - but I guess people still subscribe to them...

Same here (well, I don't use that many hair products), but I find it amusing when people try and guess my orientation or tell other people I'm gay. Though there are times when it is frustrating...

[.Andy]

I must be straight. I'm sitting at the uni library right now, and I can't stop staring at all the hot girls here. It's crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy horny. I don't know what I am. Is the library usually this full of hot girls?
You're overcompensating abstract ;).

[todd2000]

Im Gay, I've known it for at least 10 years now, but just came out in Sep. at least to my Friends. It felt sooo good to finally tell somebody. Holding it in for sooo long was killing me. Of corse it helped that 2 of my friends are also Gay. Haven't told the Family yet. My Mother passed away in 05, before I could tell her (I suspect she knows now where ever she is), and my Father left when I was born. But I still have to tell the rest of the Family. I think they should take it well, but I just don't want to tell them for some reason.

Im single, I haven't dated anyone yet, mainly because It took me sooo long to finally accept who I am, and even now I don't have an immediate desire to start dating. Im sure I'll start looking at some point :)

[Abstract]

Your friends probably knew you were gay, right? How could they not know?

You're overcompensating abstract ;).

The hell I am. Any straight guy who sees a LOT of hot university girls walking by every minute and doesn't get the teeniest bit excited probably has some sort of hormonal imbalance. I think my reaction is just right for the situation. ;)

[vniow]

I'm Bi, realized it about two years ago.


You and every other bored Midwestern teenage girl I know.


Me? Its too bad that there isn't a "I'll **** just about anything human that moves if it weren't due to medical issues out of my control" option. Otherwise I guess I get tagged with the "Bi" label.

[todd2000]

Your friends probably knew you were gay, right? How could they not know?

Well I think my best friend who I've known for 16 years probably knew, especially since he was too, but Im not sure about the rest. When I say friends I mean like 5 people. :) I really don't have too many people I consider true friends.

[dukebound85]

I must be straight. I'm sitting at the uni library right now, and I can't stop staring at all the hot girls here. It's crazy. I'm crazy. I'm crazy horny. I don't know what I am. Is the library usually this full of hot girls?

whats worse is when it happens at the swimming pool..........


btw im straight all the way

[Abstract]

Or a children's hospital.

[asrmatt]

Straight, and in love with a beautiful girl :)

But at a certain point of my life my father and grandparents thought I was gay, and I did nothing to make them believe the opposite!
Just loved to see them uncomfortable :p

[me_94501]

To be fair, though, the Catholic environment could be thought of as so stifling (although I don't really see it as stifling here, but actually quite open), that the reactions against it are that much stronger.
The former pastor at my church came out in front of the entire congregation. He got a standing ovation at one mass. Of course I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area, so go figure. ;)

As for me, I'm more or less asexual. I've never exactly been sexually attracted to men or women. I can judge beauty to some extent on both sides, and as far as relationships go, I prefer women, but the sexual component is completely missing. Always has been. It's lead to plenty of confusion, as you might imagine.

[newappleboy]

Or a children's hospital.

This is just asking to lead the thread (or start a new one) in a whole new direction...

"Most inappropriate place you've unavoidably stood up and saluted the whole room." :eek:

[iTattoo]

Congrats! That's so cool! :)

When I'm ready to have kids, I might want that or adoption, but it's nice to know that the option is out there and waiting for me and anyone else who wants it.

Thanks. Many from here actually go to California to work with a surrogate - you live in the right place, it will just cost you about the same as 50ish 24inch iMacs. :(

[Mord]

I'm about as bent as a 9 bob note.

[wongulous]

This does remind me of the GayWay disaster.

What was the reason for that, anyway? Anyone remember?

[PlaceofDis]

This does remind me of the GayWay disaster.

What was the reason for that, anyway? Anyone remember?

thread became a glorified chat room, which is a no-no. at least i think that was the problem, or the only one i was aware of.

[newappleboy]

thread became a glorified chat room, which is a no-no. at least i think that was the problem, or the only one i was aware of.

Is there a section of this site that allows for personal chit-chat and so forth without having to PM? It'd be kinda nice to have an area where we can find out if we live in the same area as some people and try to make connections in the real world instead of just within the MR confines. If there isn't one, perhaps a section should be added to the Forum board to allow for this.

[Gasu E.]

Straight, married guy w/kids. But oddly enough, most of my best buds are lesbians. I think it's cause I actually like women, and it's nice dealing with them without even the remotest possibility of sex lurking. But is there a name for this? What's the male equivalent of "Fag Hag"? "Dike Mike"?

[killmoms]

"Dike Mike"?

I think that'd mean you had an affinity for earth-based walls that keep the sea out of below-sea-level areas. Have you ever been to the Netherlands, perchance? ;)

[newappleboy]

What's the male equivalent of "Fag Hag"? "Dike Mike"?

Absolutely hilarious sir. Bravo.

[wongulous]

thread became a glorified chat room, which is a no-no. at least i think that was the problem, or the only one i was aware of.

Ah. Well, I suppose it doesn't help that it was all about gay stuff, if anyone or any forum group was opposed to it, I'm sure the complaining would be louder because of that.

So what is using it as a chat room? When the thread contents are like "Hey, good morning" or when it veers off topic and talks about shoes or their date last night? Isn't that kind of related to being gay? I guess I could see how that should be in a thread titled "Had a gay date last night, have questions" or "What do you think of these stylish shoes?" or "Anyone ever been to Eagle (gay bar in SF)?" etc...

How can we avoid this happening again? This thread is already way off topic and was vague to begin with...

[leekohler]

Ah. Well, I suppose it doesn't help that it was all about gay stuff, if anyone or any forum group was opposed to it, I'm sure the complaining would be louder because of that.



Bingo- and what PoD said. I don't wish to see a repeat of what happened as a result. There are a lot of cool members who are no longer here because of it.

[PlaceofDis]

Is there a section of this site that allows for personal chit-chat and so forth without having to PM? It'd be kinda nice to have an area where we can find out if we live in the same area as some people and try to make connections in the real world instead of just within the MR confines. If there isn't one, perhaps a section should be added to the Forum board to allow for this.

there is a MR IRC channel that is available.

http://www.macrumors.com/2003/06/08/macrumors-irc-channel-macrumors/

Ah. Well, I suppose it doesn't help that it was all about gay stuff, if anyone or any forum group was opposed to it, I'm sure the complaining would be louder because of that.

So what is using it as a chat room? When the thread contents are like "Hey, good morning" or when it veers off topic and talks about shoes or their date last night? Isn't that kind of related to being gay? I guess I could see how that should be in a thread titled "Had a gay date last night, have questions" or "What do you think of these stylish shoes?" or "Anyone ever been to Eagle (gay bar in SF)?" etc...

How can we avoid this happening again? This thread is already way off topic and was vague to begin with...

its not that the content was offensive, its that people were just posting to chat rather than really doing anything else. i agree that its a fine line between chat and regular posting, but its common sense really.

feel free to use the IRC channel for chatting or even PM a member and set up an external way to chat with them. but posting back and forth just in the daily 'chit-chat' type of stuff is kinda frowned upon, especially in extreme cases where it goes on for a long time.

Bingo- and what PoD said. I don't wish to see a repeat of what happened as a result. There are a lot of cool members who are no longer here because of it.

i don't either, but we also shouldn't stifle conversation. like i said its a fine line. it was a shame to see so many people leave.

[CalBoy]

Thanks. Many from here actually go to California to work with a surrogate - you live in the right place, it will just cost you about the same as 50ish 24inch iMacs. :(

Yeah I can imagine.

Is it possible to shoot for fraternal twins with one procedure?

Either way, I'd just save for longer to do it I suppose. :o

[iTattoo]

Yeah I can imagine.

Is it possible to shoot for fraternal twins with one procedure?

Either way, I'd just save for longer to do it I suppose. :o

Multiples are the "expected" outcome statistically speaking. This is a long story and I'd be happy to share with you in direct correspondence.

BT

[aerove]

straight nd madly in luv wit my beautiful girlfriend.. :)..

[Prof.]

19.21% of the ppl so far are gay!?!?!? wow! go us.:D:D

EDIT: I guess Apple does have a gay element to it. :p

[newappleboy]

19.21% of the ppl so far are gay!?!?!? wow! go us.:D:D

Eh. Fun is a relative view.

[Queso]

Me? Its too bad that there isn't a "I'll **** just about anything human that moves if it weren't due to medical issues out of my control" option. Otherwise I guess I get tagged with the "Bi" label.
Hi vniow, long time no see. Hope you're well and all :)

Having read all the above I just realise I never declared. I'm as bent as an nine-bob note, and married according to la ley de España (UK CP notarised as a marriage in Cataluña). No kids, no plans for kids, just a dog who is spoiled rotten.

[Melrose]

Straight and recently single.

I do get mistaken as gay, however, as I tend to:

(a) Take care of my grooming/personal hygiene rather noticeably (eg. copious amounts of hair-product in bathroom)
(b) Dress rather fashionably
(c) I am a slight-build with a "pretty" face.
(d) Very interested in design, and my home is neat, modern and reflects a large amount of effort and money spent on aesthetics.

I realize the above are stereotypes - but I guess people still subscribe to them...

This is just me as well. I'm glad I'm not alone in the world. I'm neat, orderly, have a sense of self-style and fashion and love wild ties.

Straight as a dime, with a beautiful friend who just by pure chance happens to be female; What are the odds?! OMG I'm.... I'm.... STRAIGHT! Phew got that off my chest!

[BanjoBanker]

And we have one child via surrogacy and in the process of creating #2. Children to be linked genetically via surrogate, and we will each be the bio father of one of them.
Congrats on the pending #2!! Take the advice of the father of three and stop at two. With three, the parents are always out numbered!!:eek: That said, I would not trade my youngest for the world.
As for the topic, I am straight. I have a great many Gay friends ( I know, that sounds sooo stereo type ) and I have never considered anyone's sexual orientation as any of my business. I have always chosen my friends by who they are, not who the sleep with.

[Abstract]

This is just asking to lead the thread (or start a new one) in a whole new direction...

"Most inappropriate place you've unavoidably stood up and saluted the whole room." :eek:

Um.....that would be the Great Ormond Street Hospital for Sick Children. :o

[vniow]

Hi vniow, long time no see. Hope you're well and all :).


Life is good. Improved dramatically after I left this forum 8 months ago due to senseless and useless drama. Now I only visit when I'm bored and have free time, which is not very often at all anymore. Good thing I think. Glad to see not all demis still hate me. ;)

[ReanimationLP]

I'm straight, and am getting up the courage to express my feelings to someone. :p

[iJohnHenry]

Glad to see not all demis still hate me. ;)

But you're a 603. How could that be?? :rolleyes:

[vniow]

But you're a 603. How could that be?? :rolleyes:


How could that be? Cause.

[Teh Don Ditty]

But you're a 603. How could that be?? :rolleyes:

She was a former demi.

Glad to hear your time off was well utilized vniow.

[xodonniedarko]

I didn't read all pages of this, so I'm not sure if it's still a serious blog anymore. But since this is about sexual orientation!...



As a Christian I believe our higher power designed two genders so they can be together. The sexualy reproductive parts and the hormones were really designed for opposite sexes. I'm not totally sure what really makes people gay because... I am not gay. I'm not sure if it's a hormone imbalance (because really, that honestly can make you believe you're gay) or if it's something you're born with (I don't know if I really believe that) or it's just something that happens. Kind of like I'm extremely in love with the BMW 3 series while my mom tells me to like Mercedes better. I can't help that I'm in love with BMW! That's just what I love! Homosexuality is nothing new under the sun, at all. There were entire homosexual cities mentioned in the Bible. And just as a person has a mouth and can gossip with it, a person has a body to put towards homosexuality. It is not a surpirse to anyone. Now days, homosexuality is just broadcasted.

However, as a good loving person, I don't judge a gay person because they are gay! That's not what I should do, because if homosexuality is a sin, and I'm not going to like the homosexuals because they're sinners, then I guess I really just can't like anyone. I also am not saying that you can't be a gay Christian. That discussion is a whole different forum. So to end this blog... I am straight and quite in love with my boyfriend :). Oh, and if you're gay, that is REALLY okay with me. I have gay friends! :) All is good in the neighborhood.

[vniow]

Kind of like I'm extremely in love with the BMW 3 series while my mom tells me to like Mercedes better. I can't help that I'm in love with BMW! That's just what I love!


Worst. Comparison. Eeeeeeevar.

[yg17]

Straight as an arrow, but really don't give a crap what someone is. I don't judge based off what 2 (or more, if you're into that thing ;)) people do in their private lives, and I don't think their life style is any less moral than mine.

[njmac]

straight, married, 2 kids.

Speaking of the gayway... where is Scem0?

[CalBoy]

xodonniedarko I think your post deserves an honest answer, and that's how I'm going to write my response to you. I'm not trying to be argumentative, standoffish, or anything else; I'm just trying to answer some questions that you raised yourself in the hopes that you will take them to heart. :)


The sexualy reproductive parts and the hormones were really designed for opposite sexes.
They were also designed for waste removal and can be used in any way you imagine them to be. There are no "rules" for the usage of your body; one might use a thumb to hitchhike or to press a space bar.

Many species (the bonobo for example) engage in various sexual activity ranging from male-male to female-female.
I'm not totally sure what really makes people gay because... I am not gay.
No one really knows. There are many studies that have been done and are currently being done to find this out, but with each completed study a dozen new questions arise.

The current consensus is that genetics makes a huge difference (more than 50%) but beyond that, it's really anyone's guess. Conditions of the womb might be an effect, and there is potential that a mother's hormone stability might also play a part. Again though, it's largely conjecture.


I'm not sure if it's a hormone imbalance (because really, that honestly can make you believe you're gay)
Hormones regulate your levels of metabolism, activity, etc, but they do not control whom you are attracted to. No matter what time of day it is, what I've eaten, done, listened to, etc, I don't find women sexually attractive.

Sexuality is not something that can be controlled by a switch.

or if it's something you're born with (I don't know if I really believe that)
Like I indicated before, that's currently the largest component of the explanation (add the conditions of the womb in there, and you're pretty much a fruit by the time the doctor slaps you! ;) :p).

I don't know if there's anything more I can explain here, but if you think of a question, feel free to ask it; there's no sense in having you feel shunned when you're just posting about your personal thoughts.

or it's just something that happens.
Yeah, that's a good summary. The only thing is, we don't know what exactly causes it yet. Until then (and even when we do) we just need to move past it.

Kind of like I'm extremely in love with the BMW 3 series while my mom tells me to like Mercedes better. I can't help that I'm in love with BMW!
That's hardly the same thing at all. We all have tech/car lust; that's just consumerism at its worst.

Loving a human being is entirely different. It's something no one can explain and yet everyone understands. It is the eternal mystery, the eternal truth.

That's just what I love!
You don't "love" it in the sense you would a person. You like it like a product that can be replaced, repaired, etc.

Oh, and if you're gay, that is REALLY okay with me. I have gay friends! :) All is good in the neighborhood.

I'm glad you've decided to judge individuals rather than stereotypes.

However, all is not "good in the neighborhood" if you make false comparisons and assumptions. Please take the time to consider what I've written to you. :)

[leekohler]

straight, married, 2 kids.

Speaking of the gayway... where is Scem0?

Well, after the gayway ended and he and I broke up after two years, he kind of left altogether. We still talk and are on very good terms and he has a very nice new BF.

[skunk]

Is a Mercedes straight and a BMW 3-series gay, or is it the other way around?

[leekohler]

Is a Mercedes straight and a BMW 3-series gay, or is it the other way around?

They're both gay. :)

[Queso]

They're both gay. :)
Only on Wednesdays though. Monday and Tuesday the designated gay cars are Hondas, and from Thursday through the weekend Jeeps are the gayest thing you can drive.

Range Rovers are never gay, unlike Hummers which are gay for two hours every morning just before lunch.

[leekohler]

Only on Wednesdays though. Monday and Tuesday the designated gay cars are Hondas, and from Thursday through the weekend Jeeps are the gayest thing you can drive.

Range Rovers are never gay, unlike Hummers which are gay for two hours every morning just before lunch.

Don't forget the Toyota Prius- GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!!!!!:D

[question fear]

Don't forget the Toyota Prius- GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!!!!!:D

Only on Wednesdays though. Monday and Tuesday the designated gay cars are Hondas, and from Thursday through the weekend Jeeps are the gayest thing you can drive.

Range Rovers are never gay, unlike Hummers which are gay for two hours every morning just before lunch.

Is a Mercedes straight and a BMW 3-series gay, or is it the other way around?

And if you're a lady, nothing is gayer than a subaru.

[Queso]

Don't forget the Toyota Prius- GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!!!!!:D
Oh yes. Asphalt actually turns rainbow coloured as a Prius drives over it.

[Karstan]

Don't forget the Toyota Prius- GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!!!!!:D

I kinda always thought the prius and the mini coup were soul mates...as for the honda, i wasn't aware they had the earlier part of the week as they seem to always fall behind the pack...

[psychofreak]

I'm straight.

I never had any kind of 'moral' problem, but after hanging around with more gay people I have gotten over what problem I had seeing gay guys kissing. I dunno why, it just used to weird me out. I currently have no gay friends (that I know of, all though there are some possibilities), but thats not a choice, just happenstance. Unfortunately I think being in an all-boys school makes people somehow more worried to come out.

[leekohler]

I'm straight.

I never had any kind of 'moral' problem, but after hanging around with more gay people I have gotten over what problem I had seeing gay guys kissing. I dunno why, it just used to weird me out. I currently have no gay friends (that I know of, all though there are some possibilities), but thats not a choice, just happenstance. Unfortunately I think being in an all-boys school makes people somehow more worried to come out.

If I were in an all boys school I'd be terrified to come too. That is a really scary situation to be in.

[Queso]

If I were in an all boys school I'd be terrified to come too. That is a really scary situation to be in.
I would expect it to be, for all involved :D

[leekohler]

I would expect it to be, for all involved :D

Oh quit. ;) I guess it would just depend though. The vast majority of my friends are straight males, so maybe it wouldn't be so bad. I don't know though, at that age people are so worried about how they're perceived. It would be really scary to even think about coming out.

[psychofreak]

I would expect it to be, for all involved :D

Fortunately our school is predominantly moderate to liberal and pretty much non-religious (something I believe is not commonplace or even existent through much of America, correct me if I'm wrong), so it hasn't been, AFAIK, a big deal when the one or two guys who have come out have done so. The news spreads through the school in about a day with "Did you know --- came out?", and then is pretty much forgotten the next day.

[lamina]

Uh-oh, this could end up being another "Gayway Thread" disaster. To the OP, there was a thread such as this that existed a few years ago. It got out of control and was shut down, resulting in a lot of hurt feelings and many members leaving. Not saying that has to be the case here, but just be careful.

Listen to Lee. He is wise.

BTW: I am straight and have been hit on by 2 gay guys before. I wasn't offended, actually flattered... but I like girls. Asian girls. But that's another story.

[GradientMac]

I agree to a certain extent. I believe a large portion of it is right along those lines, but I think there's something psychologically deeper to it as well.

The gay population is nowhere near as vast as the 10% people seem to think is real. We'd be lucky if it's 2% or 3% - that's just realistic. Out of that small population of the world, the chances of finding someone you can connect with on an emotional level and developing a lasting relationship with are incredibly slim. Because of this, I think gay people (more specifically the men) resort to just accepting life for what they can get, and having sex. They may not get the emotional fulfillment, but they get sexual satisfaction and the brief feeling of being special.

You can't even prove that. I'm a homosexual 14 year old, and I'm not attracted to females at all. There is NO attraction. But males, there is a lot of attraction. It's my biggest pet peeve when people just assume that because a younger person self identifies as gay it makes them wrong because of their age. I don't want to just fit in, you make it sound like people like me WANT to be gay. What a STUPID idea! Get ridiculed and hurt for it, get disowned and risk getting killed!

I would rather be straight! I could BE myself! But I'm NOT and nothing will change that because it is the way it is! And I know many gay people my age that wouldn't agree with you.

If I read your post out of it's intentions then I'm sorry, but whether or not it relates to what you were stating, I stand by what I said.

[iJohnHenry]

I could barely pick my nose at 14.

Good for you.

:)

[leekohler]

You can't even prove that. I'm a homosexual 14 year old, and I'm not attracted to females at all. There is NO attraction. But males, there is a lot of attraction. It's my biggest pet peeve when people just assume that because a younger person self identifies as gay it makes them wrong because of their age. I don't want to just fit in, you make it sound like people like me WANT to be gay. What a STUPID idea! Get ridiculed and hurt for it, get disowned and risk getting killed!

I would rather be straight! I could BE myself! But I'm NOT and nothing will change that because it is the way it is! And I know many gay people my age that would agree with you.

If I read your post out of it's intentions then I'm sorry, but whether or not it relates to what you were stating, I stand by what I said.

Yeah, it can be tough, especially at your age. Hang on my friend, it will get easier, believe me. Remember that in about four years, you'll be in college. Life will be much easier for you there.

[GradientMac]

Yeah, it can be tough, especially at your age. Hang on my friend, it will get easier, believe me. Remember that in about four years, you'll be in college. Life will be much easier for you there.

Thank you so much. I needed that, life's not going too great right now. [For this and other reasons.]

[newappleboy]

You can't even prove that. I'm a homosexual 14 year old, and I'm not attracted to females at all. There is NO attraction. But males, there is a lot of attraction. It's my biggest pet peeve when people just assume that because a younger person self identifies as gay it makes them wrong because of their age. I don't want to just fit in, you make it sound like people like me WANT to be gay. What a STUPID idea! Get ridiculed and hurt for it, get disowned and risk getting killed!

I would rather be straight! I could BE myself! But I'm NOT and nothing will change that because it is the way it is! And I know many gay people my age that wouldn't agree with you.

If I read your post out of it's intentions then I'm sorry, but whether or not it relates to what you were stating, I stand by what I said.

Wow. You really read what I said out of context. lol What I was explaining was one possible explanation as to why the stereotype of the homosexual community is promiscuity. I am a 21 (almost 22) year old gay male. I am sexually attracted to men and not women. That is not to say women are not attractive to me, but I never look at one and fantasize her without a top and so forth. The physical attraction is there, but not the sexual attraction. And deep down, any honest straight male will admit, that even if to a lesser degree, he has occasionally looked at another man and thought of him as handsome. We all do it. It's natural. But your sexuality is determined by your sexual attractions. Enough said.

I feel your paid though. I was your age when I realized who I was. I was told many things, one of which being that I couldn't possibly have any idea I was gay simply because I happened to be a young teenager. Just take it in stride and stand up for yourself. It'll pass and people will eventually come to accept that it isn't a phase. They may not like it, but it's really hard to tell someone they've simply been going through a "phase" for a decade. Be strong.

[aLoC]

I am straight. I like hanging out and relaxing with other guys but it's a completely different feeling from sexual attraction around women.

I live in a very gay-friendly city with a large gay population (Sydney, Australia). In my team at work there are 3 people who are openly gay (2 male, 1 female) and there's no discrimination that I've ever seen.

I don't have any hostile feelings towards gay people and I think people that do are probably either deeply religious or just busybodies who aren't happy with their own lives and so try to control other people's. That said I want to be careful not to lump all religious people together either, because there are 2 born-again Christians at my job who are perfectly friendly with the gay people, there's no icy atmosphere or anything.

[Prof.]

Don't forget the Toyota Prius- GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!!!!!:D
I really want a prius. :o:D

[xodonniedarko]

LMAO.


The whole BMW/Mercedes thing was a jokkeee guyyysss.
Although I dunno, my mom has a Benz and while I'm sure their interior parts are probably higher quality than BMW, is till like the 3 series better...


haha hm.
anyways.
thank you Calboy.

But I wasn't making false assumptions or comparisons.
Well, I wasn't trying to.

[Cassie]

I really want a prius. :o:D

Me too. But, that's because I'm an environmentalist.

Well ok, It might also be that, but it's mostly environmentalism. :)

[CalBoy]

anyways.
thank you Calboy.

But I wasn't making false assumptions or comparisons.
Well, I wasn't trying to.

I wasn't sure what you were joking about and what you weren't so I figured a thorough approach would be better.

I hope you can take some of what I wrote to you to heart.

GradientMac, I know how you feel. Take solace in the fact that things will get better and that you're not the only one going through this.

Things will get better, just remind yourself of that when you're feeling down. In the meantime, just be a regular teenager and come out when you're ready (be it at 18 or 21 or whenever). I think you'll find that when you do, most people will react in a generally positive way. Only a handful of people will really be terrible about it.

[CanadaRAM]

I don't identify as gay or straight.

I'm coy. :rolleyes:

... or stray ....

I thought tomatoes were asexual. :)

... where's your biology 10, Lee? In the flora world, all fruits are female. 'Course there are some varieties that are self-fertile but that's a whole 'nother story.


You don't "love" it in the sense you would a person. You like it like a product that can be replaced, repaired, etc.

IIRC there's a term for the 'love' which is attraction to a thing -- cathexis.
<goes off to check his cathexis thesis.... >
Woo hoo ! the old memory cells still work
"the process of investment of mental or emotional energy in a person, object, or idea."

[MBPchef]

Gay. Recently single. Out & Proud. :)

[skunk]

I really want a prius. :o:DNo. what you want is a Priapus.

[raggedjimmi]

After all that was said and done I had a friend at college who "came out" and I absorbed some mannerisms. Haha bit silly really, I'm a right chameleon like that. Even pick up mannerisms from TV shows... Alan Partridge and Vince Noir come to mind.

So much was the influence from this gay chap, and the purchase of an orange laptop/man-bag that my dad asked if I was gay :D

Meh I think it's all great. I love seeing people just doing what they want since I'm a pretty conservative chap. That's one mannerism I can't beat :o

And I hate willies. Willies were not made to look good. Just scrag ends thrown around a bit by a gruff blind pizza chef, picking up his thick chest hair as he molts away over the resulting mess, resembling an artistic rendition of diarrhea and nightmares and years of frustration.

[arkitect]

And I hate willies. Willies were not made to look good. Just scrag ends thrown around a bit by a gruff blind pizza chef, picking up his thick chest hair as he molts away over the resulting mess, resembling an artistic rendition of diarrhea and nightmares and years of frustration.

Yikes! :eek:
That doesn't sound too good. You might want to have a doctor take a look at that… it doesn't sound normal. ;)

But then again… I like willies. :D:D

[alFR]

I like MR for the reason that "most" of us are able to discuss relationships & experiences pretty openly (with some fairly collegial teasing/bantering), and nobody--for the most part--is threatened by another POV or preference. If they are, they're generally good enough to just keep it to themselves.

Since I joined I have to say that I've been consistently impressed with the overall level of tolerance on MR. Live and let live, I say.

Straight and married BTW (thought I'd better put that in to keep the thread vaguely on-topic!). :)

[CalBoy]

IIRC there's a term for the 'love' which is attraction to a thing -- cathexis.
<goes off to check his cathexis thesis.... >
Woo hoo ! the old memory cells still work
"the process of investment of mental or emotional energy in a person, object, or idea."

Why thank you. :D

I'd say that's just about the perfect word to describe the love of a German sedan...:p

[leekohler]

... where's your biology 10, Lee? In the flora world, all fruits are female. 'Course there are some varieties that are self-fertile but that's a whole 'nother story.




EEK! You're right. The fact that I haven't been in a biology class for 20 years is really showing, isn't it? :eek:


And I hate willies. Willies were not made to look good. Just scrag ends thrown around a bit by a gruff blind pizza chef, picking up his thick chest hair as he molts away over the resulting mess, resembling an artistic rendition of diarrhea and nightmares and years of frustration.

That sounds like a disease, not a willy. :eek: Willies are awesome!

[newappleboy]

EEK! You're right. The fact that I haven't been in a biology class for 20 years is really showing, isn't it? :eek:

It feels like it's been that long since I've had a chance to do some hands-on biology studying. *innocent whistle*

[CalBoy]

EEK! You're right. The fact that I haven't been in a biology class for 20 years is really showing, isn't it? :eek:

And yet you've clearly been keeping up on your anatomy based on what I've seen. ;):D

[/bad flirting]

[leekohler]

And yet you've clearly been keeping up on your anatomy based on what I've seen. ;):D

[/bad flirting]

Well, there's a certain amount of maintenance that has to be done. ;)

[Prof.]

Me too. But, that's because I'm an environmentalist.

Well ok, It might also be that, but it's mostly environmentalism. :)
Me too! I'm somewhat of a tree hugger.:cool:

No. what you want is a Priapus.
Come again?

EDIT: I looked that word up and i got... "a god of fertility, whose cult spread to Greece (and, later, Italy) from Turkey after Alexander's conquests. He was also a god of gardens and the patron of seafarers and shepherds."

You know what? That just made me even more confused. :(

[Much Ado]

Yet to come out.

I see the context sensitive ads are doing their thing ;)

[Prof.]

Yet to come out.

I see the context sensitive ads are doing their thing ;)
I'm seeing ads for HP and "The Real Gay Community Fitness Club":D

[Gelfin]

EDIT: I looked that word up and i got... "a god of fertility, whose cult spread to Greece (and, later, Italy) from Turkey after Alexander's conquests. He was also a god of gardens and the patron of seafarers and shepherds."

You know what? That just made me even more confused. :(

Yeah, try a Google image search instead. You'll get it.

skunk, well done, sir. :)

[Prof.]

Yeah, try a Google image search instead. You'll get it.

skunk, well done, sir. :)
Ahhhhh... I got it... i got pwnd:(

[raggedjimmi]

That sounds like a disease, not a willy. :eek: Willies are awesome!

They can't be that awesome, they cry easily. The cowards.

[leekohler]

They can't be that awesome, they cry easily. The cowards.

Some do, some don' t. ;)

[Cassie]

Gotta love the Google ad's....

[Hawkeye411]

My preferred sexual orientation is on top. :D

[bigandy]

Gotta love the Google ad's....

What Google ads?

:p

[Eric Lewis]

who doesnt?

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[Cassie]

What Google ads?

:p
I hate you.:p;)

[oblomow]

I hate you.:p;)


Good for you. You hate the ones with money to spend, not the ones with
another sexual orientation.... Let's all fight the people with spending power! :)

[iDAG]

I'm straight with a beautiful girlfriend who I have been with for over five months. :D BTW I'm in high school and this kind of relationship is just unheard of these days. :cool:

[Neil321]

Me i love women,so that makes me straight

[skunk]

Me i love women,so that makes me straightYou might be a lesbian.

[iToaster]

Straight here, but I've got a lot of gay friends (and a lot of not gay friends too).

[Neil321]

You might be a lesbian.

Na,im definitely a bloke,or at least i was the last time i looked

[skunk]

Just checking. :cool:

[ThomasShaped]

I'm gay :)

Out to friends but not family though I think my mum knows..
I was in the car on the way home from a party and I was having a few friends over to stay. One of them was a girl so my mum was saying things like "I'm not so sure about you having a girl staying in your room." My friend then comes out with "Oh no! It's ok! I'm gay, Euan's gay and so is- ..oh." I was rather intoxicated though so I don't remember much of it :3

She hasn't said anything to me about it yet so I presume it's all ok.

[raggedjimmi]

I'm straight with a beautiful girlfriend who I have been with for over five months. :D BTW I'm in high school and this kind of relationship is just unheard of these days. :cool:

Awesome :) I remember back at college when I met Caroline, everyone thought we made a good couple but that we wouldn't last through college. Then through uni (she went to a different university half the country away). Especially since we only met at 16. Been together 6 years this November!
Still it's great you're staying together.

[McGarvels]

Wow, my airport decided to stop working while I was editing my post...

That being said, not all gay men are promiscuous.

I am a gay male who just entered into a domestic partnership with my boyfriend. We are lucky that we live in California and that our union is actually recognized. Regardless, please don't stereotype all homosexuals as being promiscuous...

[catfish743]

I am really happy to see a thread about this actually...

I see a lot of people saying that all gay men%2

You must remember mac users, while I hate to be stereotypical, are usually more out-of-the-box people who don't keep to certain social norms. I'm not to say that all of them are like that, but in my mind it makes sense to see such a high percentage. Just MPO.

[CalBoy]

You must remember mac users, while I hate to be stereotypical, are usually more out-of-the-box people who don't keep to certain social norms. I'm not to say that all of them are like that, but in my mind it makes sense to see such a high percentage. Just MPO.

That's part of it.

I think the reason is actually partly due to the high correlation between education/income and Mac usage. The gay community is also better education and has a higher income than the average individual, so their propensity to use Macs is already higher.

When you add the clean aesthetic design of Macs, your odds of attracting gay men increases even more.

[OMgLaZeRsPeWpEW]

straight, single....and maybe lookin :rolleyes:

[vniow]

You know, one of the best parts about being more on the bi side of things is that I get to play the lesbian card when I encounter a guy who is waaaaayy more into me than I am him. Hey, its mostly true...

[njmac]

Well, after the gayway ended and he and I broke up after two years, he kind of left altogether. We still talk and are on very good terms and he has a very nice new BF.

I'm glad to hear you guys left things on good terms but its too bad he doesn't visit MR anymore... his "adventures" seriously cracked me up - he seemed confident yet very naive and sincere :)

[OMgLaZeRsPeWpEW]

You know, one of the best parts about being more on the bi side of things is that I get to play the lesbian card when I encounter a guy who is waaaaayy more into me than I am him. Hey, its mostly true...

Hahaha, can't tell you how many times i've encountered that...although i won't lie, if i get an ugly gal hitting on me i'll just act gay and hope i'm convincing enough lol

[Mackilroy]

Straight all the way, no girlfriend atm. Oddly enough, I don't know anyone who's actually come out as gay around here (where I live, not on MR). Nobody even acts remotely gay, though that might be because they're afraid of what people would do to them if they came out. *shrugs*

I don't get homosexuality, and if any of my good friends were gay that would really surprise me, but if I met someone who was gay, I'd try to judge them for who they are, not what their orientation is. People can be interesting/creative/intelligent/funny/whatever no matter their orientation.

[NotFound]

Straight all the way, no girlfriend atm. Oddly enough, I don't know anyone who's actually come out as gay around here (where I live, not on MR). Nobody even acts remotely gay, though that might be because they're afraid of what people would do to them if they came out. *shrugs*

I don't get homosexuality, and if any of my good friends were gay that would really surprise me, but if I met someone who was gay, I'd try to judge them for who they are, not what their orientation is. People can be interesting/creative/intelligent/funny/whatever no matter their orientation.

I'm sure you know someone who is gay.

You just don't know it (yet).

[leekohler]

I'm glad to hear you guys left things on good terms but its too bad he doesn't visit MR anymore... his "adventures" seriously cracked me up - he seemed confident yet very naive and sincere :)

Trust me, he's still having adventures. ;)

[njmac]

Trust me, he's still having adventures. ;)

haha :D tell him to post them!

[Mackilroy]

I'm sure you know someone who is gay.

You just don't know it (yet).

There might be someone at school who is, but out of my close friends, virtually nobody is gay. At all.

[Gelfin]

There might be someone at school who is, but out of my close friends, virtually nobody is gay. At all.

"Virtually?"

Otherwise, it's cute how you think you can tell. Somebody's going to surprise you in a few years.

[McGarvels]

Nobody even acts remotely gay, though that might be because they're afraid of what people would do to them if they came out. *shrugs*

I don't get homosexuality

Just so you know, we don't all act like flaming queens as the masses like to call it (and please pardon the term). Contrary to popular belief but gay guys can like sports and beer and action movies. When I came out all of my friends were completely surprised because I don't act how the media likes to portray us. Also, we don't need you to "get" homosexuality, there is nothing to get, it's just a fact of life. Learn to live with it. That is all.

[CalBoy]

There might be someone at school who is, but out of my close friends, virtually nobody is gay. At all.

Doesn't that mean that statistically you are the gay one in your group? ;):p I kid, I kid.

Seriously, there's someone you know that's gay (whether male or female), they just haven't told you or you haven't figured it out.

Like someone else mentioned, stereotypes are not useful in most cases.

I don't quite understand your comment of "I don't get homosexuality," so I hope you'll be willing to elaborate that. You might find that your questions can be answered here, so what's the harm in asking them?

[Mammoth]

Straight and single, because girls don't like me. :o

[todd2000]

There might be someone at school who is, but out of my close friends, virtually nobody is gay. At all.

I agree with Gelfin what do you mean by "Virtually?" That must mean somebody is, or at least you suspect someone is?

Also like McGarvels said, it isn't as easy as you would think to pick us out of a crowd. I would say the vast majority of us don't fit the stereotypes that you are probably expecting. Chances are that you know someone who is, they just haven't came out yet. Some estimates say that at least 1 in 10 people are gay. Im not so sure about that number, but even if it's 1 in 20, there is still a good chance that at least 1 person you know, possibly more is gay.

And as for you comment " I don't get homosexuality" what exactly don't you get? Seriously? There's really nothing to "get" It's just the way we are. That would be like me saying "I don't get heterosexuality." Like CalBoy said I hope you can elaborate on that.

I know it seems like were all jumping on you, because we are, but I believe I speak for all of us when I say were not "mad" at you just curious, and trying to help you understand.

[leekohler]

Straight and single, because girls don't like me. :o

You have to stop pulling their ponytails. :)

[Teh Don Ditty]

You have to stop pulling their ponytails. :)

But I thought they were handlebars :confused:

[iJohnHenry]

That would depend on the service being performed.

[donmei]

Whats that saying. Straight but not narrow minded?
1 wife, 1 child. Baby Grace, the love of my life.

Macs are firmly rooted in the creative community. The creative community has a large representation of homosexuals. It just kindof makes sense.

Hey, back when I was single and I needed to get some color ideas to paint my house, who do you think I called? Bob my friend the roofer? or Bruce my friend the interior designer? (He also laid out my perennial garden and helped me with landscaping. Every straight guy should have at least one gay friend. I help him fix his car. He comes clothes shopping with me.

To all you guys who are still in the closet, my heart goes out to you. I have gay friends who span the spectrum from closeted to "I'm here I'm queer get used to it". And the closeted guys are generally stressing under the weight of their secret. Good luck.

Don

[newappleboy]

Whats that saying. Straight but not narrow minded?
1 wife, 1 child. Baby Grace, the love of my life.

Macs are firmly rooted in the creative community. The creative community has a large representation of homosexuals. It just kindof makes sense.

Hey, back when I was single and I needed to get some color ideas to paint my house, who do you think I called? Bob my friend the roofer? or Bruce my friend the interior designer? (He also laid out my perennial garden and helped me with landscaping. Every straight guy should have at least one gay friend. I help him fix his car. He comes clothes shopping with me.

To all you guys who are still in the closet, my heart goes out to you. I have gay friends who span the spectrum from closeted to "I'm here I'm queer get used to it". And the closeted guys are generally stressing under the weight of their secret. Good luck.

Don

Wow. Very insightful and genuine. You sound like the kind of guy who would be a great friend. Your friends, both Bob and Bruce, are lucky to have you.

[leekohler]

Whats that saying. Straight but not narrow minded?
1 wife, 1 child. Baby Grace, the love of my life.

Macs are firmly rooted in the creative community. The creative community has a large representation of homosexuals. It just kindof makes sense.

Hey, back when I was single and I needed to get some color ideas to paint my house, who do you think I called? Bob my friend the roofer? or Bruce my friend the interior designer? (He also laid out my perennial garden and helped me with landscaping. Every straight guy should have at least one gay friend. I help him fix his car. He comes clothes shopping with me.

To all you guys who are still in the closet, my heart goes out to you. I have gay friends who span the spectrum from closeted to "I'm here I'm queer get used to it". And the closeted guys are generally stressing under the weight of their secret. Good luck.

Don

Unfortunately, I have to teach my straight guy friends how to fix their cars too. ;) You're right- you guys do need us, especially when it comes to how to treat women. And yeah, there's always the clothing thing. :D

[NotFound]

Whats that saying. Straight but not narrow minded?
1 wife, 1 child. Baby Grace, the love of my life.

Macs are firmly rooted in the creative community. The creative community has a large representation of homosexuals. It just kindof makes sense.

Hey, back when I was single and I needed to get some color ideas to paint my house, who do you think I called? Bob my friend the roofer? or Bruce my friend the interior designer? (He also laid out my perennial garden and helped me with landscaping. Every straight guy should have at least one gay friend. I help him fix his car. He comes clothes shopping with me.

To all you guys who are still in the closet, my heart goes out to you. I have gay friends who span the spectrum from closeted to "I'm here I'm queer get used to it". And the closeted guys are generally stressing under the weight of their secret. Good luck.

Don

Well, at least you are man enough to admit that there is give and take and that two worlds can live in harmony when tolerance and understanding are used.

And yes, you do need us for shopping. The first time I took my boyfriend to meet my sister and brother in law they were suit shopping for my brother's in law new job. Some of his choices were atrocious.

[OMgLaZeRsPeWpEW]

Straight and single, because girls don't like me. :o

Hah you and me both bro :D

[CalBoy]

Whats that saying. Straight but not narrow minded?
1 wife, 1 child. Baby Grace, the love of my life.

Macs are firmly rooted in the creative community. The creative community has a large representation of homosexuals. It just kindof makes sense.

Hey, back when I was single and I needed to get some color ideas to paint my house, who do you think I called? Bob my friend the roofer? or Bruce my friend the interior designer? (He also laid out my perennial garden and helped me with landscaping. Every straight guy should have at least one gay friend. I help him fix his car. He comes clothes shopping with me.

To all you guys who are still in the closet, my heart goes out to you. I have gay friends who span the spectrum from closeted to "I'm here I'm queer get used to it". And the closeted guys are generally stressing under the weight of their secret. Good luck.

Don

I love this post, and so like Lee, andrewxps, and newappleboy, I'm going to quote it. :)

And let's face it, if you're married, having a gay guy around can only be good from a husband's vantage point. ;):D

[mkrishnan]

But I thought they were handlebars :confused:

Yes, and you only use the handlebars while you're riding the cycle.

My gods, did I actually just post in this thread? :o

[CalBoy]

My gods, did I actually just post in this thread? :o

Yes, and with full innuendo to boot. :eek::p

[Teh Don Ditty]

Yes, and you only use the handlebars while you're riding the cycle.

My gods, did I actually just post in this thread? :o

Something needs to get ridden...

Yes, yes you did. Glad to drag you in here.

[vniow]

But I thought they were handlebars :confused:

That would depend on the service being performed.


I like you.

[iJohnHenry]

I like you.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g158/MouseMeat/Smilies/54.gif

[nineteentwelve]

I'm a bi-sexual guy and proud of it! I'm 'out' to my close friends and to my Mum, Brother and Sister but nobody else. A few people at work suspect I have inclinations towards other guys, but I'm leaving them hanging with an acknowledgement. I've had a couple of serious relationships with guys, but none with women. Plenty of one night stands with the female of the species though, of which I'm not particularly proud of anymore. At 21, I'm not in a rush to get into a relationship with either 'he or she', but hey, if the right person comes along then I'm game.

I'd also like to say that as you can tell from my profile, I've been a member here for 11 months and I've only posted 22 times (this being my 23rd). So you could class me as lurker. I visit the forums near enough every day, and after reading this thread it has surprised me at how nice and civilised the members of MacRumors are. So I'm making a vow to myself to become part of this great community. I look forward to crossing your paths again soon!

BTW, I'm Ryan, 21, from Shrewsbury (UK). Nice to meet you. ;)

[newappleboy]

BTW, I'm Ryan, 21, from Shrewsbury (UK). Nice to meet you. ;)

Nice to meet you Ryan. Welcome.

[vniow]

Anyone else feel that this thread has a hookup kind of undertone to it? What is it with teh gheys and always thinking about sex. :rolleyes:




Oh, before I forget, Ani/F/23/San Francisco.

[newappleboy]

Anyone else feel that this thread has a hookup kind of undertone to it? What is it with teh gheys and always thinking about sex. :rolleyes:

Everyone is always thinking about sex. Stereotypically, we're just more vocal. :eek:

[nineteentwelve]

Oh, before I forget, Ani/F/23/San Francisco.

Uh oh. This reminds me of being on chat rooms all those years ago... "ASL???!?!?"

[vniow]

Uh oh. This reminds me of being on chat rooms all those years ago... "ASL???!?!?"


Well strap me down and **** me silly, I never knew there was a term for that before those few seconds ago.

[Teh Don Ditty]

Well strap me down and **** me silly, I never knew there was a term for that before those few seconds ago.

I'm sure somebody out there will take you up on that offer.

[vniow]

I'm sure somebody out there will take you up on that offer.

Calling dibs are we?


Anyway, since I live in one of those wacky liberal gay infested cities, there's much discussion of identity politics, like identifying as queer vs GLB or T, identifying as something else or sometimes not preferring to be identified at all. There's a gay and lesbian studies minor at SF State, so there's a lot of people discussing stuff like this. I'd like to hear from the people who feel that they don't quite fit into that all encompassing acronym, or hear thoughts on identity politics, etc.

[newappleboy]

Anyway, since I live in one of those wacky liberal gay infested cities, there's much discussion of identity politics, like identifying as queer vs GLB or T, identifying as something else or sometimes not preferring to be identified at all. There's a gay and lesbian studies minor at SF State, so there's a lot of people discussing stuff like this. I'd like to hear from the people who feel that they don't quite fit into that all encompassing acronym, or hear thoughts on identity politics, etc.

I identify as gay, but am by no means an "out and proud" kind of guy. Those who are important to me know, but I don't broadcast it. As the wise Brian Kinney once said on "Queer as Folk" - "Unless I'm *$*#ing you, it's none of your business." Harsh, but true.

Being gay is just one piece of me. It's what I am, not who I am. It in no way really "identifies" the kind of person I am. I don't like to style hair, interior design is not my dream job, I don't hit the raves twice a week, I don't conduct in promiscuity, I've never done drugs, etc. The list of things that people link to being gay is lengthy, and I might be able to be linked to a small few of those items. As I'm sure is the case with more of the homosexual community than most would believe.

The world is quick to judge and throw everyone in a category, and this only causes more and more problems. There shouldn't be a need to identify. Sexuality shouldn't be the kind of thing that comes up in a day-to-day discussion simply because it shouldn't be what you feel defines you. If you're defined by who you have sex with, I feel sorry for you and what kind of life you're likely living.

[Teh Don Ditty]

Calling dibs are we?

Depends if you like a straight man. :p

[Ugg]

I'm gay :)

Out to friends but not family though I think my mum knows..
I was in the car on the way home from a party and I was having a few friends over to stay. One of them was a girl so my mum was saying things like "I'm not so sure about you having a girl staying in your room." My friend then comes out with "Oh no! It's ok! I'm gay, Euan's gay and so is- ..oh." I was rather intoxicated though so I don't remember much of it :3

She hasn't said anything to me about it yet so I presume it's all ok.

Yeah, your Mom's probably figured it out! I just about spewed all over my keyboard when I read your post. That's what friends are for, to tell our parents what we're afraid to.



Civil and clean (ish) thread so far. BTW, I'm gay.

Also, there was a really good article on the NYT Sunday, called Young Gay Rites (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/magazine/27young-t.html?em&ex=1209614400&en=476fc2ba87e673dc&ei=5070).

It was well written and about gay marriage for 20 somethings. Well worth a read

[Grey Beard]

Civil and clean (ish) thread so far. BTW, I'm gay.

Also, there was a really good article on the NYT Sunday, called Young Gay Rites (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/27/magazine/27young-t.html?em&ex=1209614400&en=476fc2ba87e673dc&ei=5070).

It was well written and about gay marriage for 20 somethings. Well worth a read

Yes, the New York Times article was a really well written and made a good read. I sent it on to scemO who enjoyed it as well. Oh, he and Jack are doing well and scemO's right back into study mode.

For those that may not have spent a day or two reading the old and infamous 'GayWay' thread I'm gay, and I did cast my vote in the first day or so of this thread.

Play and stay safe, Kevin.