Can This Non-Mac Laptop Run OS X??

[alexxb14]

I recently had a thread with this comment in it but it was closed/deleted so yeah. Anyways, the question is if my Sager 5760 can dual boot OS X. I read that you have to have a mac to run OS X (Which I find ultra lame) but I remember something about if it has intel support or something like that it can. Anyways, is it possible to dual boot OS X on my Sager 5760?? If you need its specs then they are the following:

Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime)

Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz
2GB RAM
17" 1440x900
250GB HDD
Nvidia 7900 GTX

I want to dual boot it because I plan to sell it here when I am eligible for the marketplace and I know this is a mac site so having OS X is a + vs. having XP on this site which is a -, but having both is a ++ I guess.

[PlaceofDis]

no you can't. OS X is only for Apple hardware at this point, anything else goes against the EULA.

btw, this has been asked hundreds of times.

[alexxb14]

Thats kinda um....Hypocritical.... on Apples part.

I mean, how are you guys gonna have/give the option of allowing other OS to be installed on your machines professionally (meaning no hacking/modifications needed) with Leopard, but other computer companies can't use your OS, since they need to be a apple computer.

This is the only thing I don't like about Apple.

[flopticalcube]

Its not really hypocritical as Apple is the only one that manufactures both hardware and software. Its their license agreement. If you want help, go to insanelymac, they are the experts.

[PlaceofDis]

its their business model of an integrated system.

there are plenty of threads on this topic, no need to go into another debate.

look here for plenty of discussion on the whole issue: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=470797

[Trip.Tucker]

I read that you have to have a mac to run OS X (Which I find ultra lame)

Then don't run it and don't whine about it.

[Trip.Tucker]

I want to dual boot it because I plan to sell it here when I am eligible for the marketplace and I know this is a mac site so having OS X is a + vs. having XP on this site which is a -, but having both is a ++ I guess.

So you want to do this just to make more money?

You are lame.

[G4DP]

Why is that hypocritical?

Apple designed OSX they get to decide which hardware it runs on, if you don't like that then that's your problem. If you want OSX buy a Mac.

As PlacofDis has said, this stupid and pointless question is asked almost every week, please do a search and you'll find more than enough answers to the question.

[JNB]

1. The closing of the original post should have been a major clue.
2. Multiple attempts after closing the same thread will result in release of the Ban Hamster™, so I wouldn't worry about getting enough posts to gain access the the Marketplace.
3. What the hell is a Sager, and why would anyone on a Mac forum be particularly interested? Try Craigslist.

Not trying to dump on ya', but trying to bring a bit of reasonableness to the thought process here...

[MacNut]

If you try to sell a hacked clone Apple could come after you.

[madmaxmedia]

Why not just google for this instead of posting here again, you'll find other web sites and forums on this. The short answer is maybe, but it typically takes some work. It's especially troublesome with notebook computers because you can't just install a PCI ethernet card if the built-in ethernet isn't supported, etc.

BTW, installing OS X on it won't help you at all trying to sell it here. You might have picked up that vibe already...

[MacNut]

Just because you can doesn't make it legal.

[SLC Flyfishing]

Thats kinda um....Hypocritical.... on Apples part.

I mean, how are you guys gonna have/give the option of allowing other OS to be installed on your machines professionally (meaning no hacking/modifications needed) with Leopard, but other computer companies can't use your OS, since they need to be a apple computer.

This is the only thing I don't like about Apple.

I believe it was Microsoft who allowed Apple to create bootcamp so people could install windows on their Macs. I think that's lame but that's another thread. The point here is, Microsoft doesn't sell computers so it's in their best interest to allow anyone and everyone who will by a copy of their pile of an OS install it on whatever machine they want. Apple on the other hand, doesn't exactly have the OS that everyone in the world uses at work and so they need people to buy a computer along with it in order to stay profitable. That's the basic idea, plus with a Mac, you get a machine which has been optimized to run with the OS, with windows you just get whatever the computer builder can give you and still make a handsome profit. It's in Apple's best interest to make sure that every machine that runs OS X can run it well. I've never used an Apple that had a hard time just running the OS, but with PC's, nearly every one I've owned had some trouble with even some basic OS tasks.


If apple allowed everyone to install OS X on their non apple machines, we'd have a lot more malware since more people would likely be giving it a try.

I'd just sell your laptop for whatever you can get for it with just XP on it. You'd do much better to leave this OSX 86 business alone.

SLC

[TH-Gunner]

I believe it was Microsoft who allowed Apple to create bootcamp so people could install windows on their Macs.

I don't know about that. Why would apple have to clear anything with m$? No one is modifying the windows OS. Apple simply created a BIOS emulator to allow windows to run on their EFI-based hardware and created drivers for the windows product, just like any 3rd party does (creative makes windows drivers, nVidia, ATI, etc.) Apple had to probably pay to get their drivers "windows signature verified," though.

[alexxb14]

Why is that hypocritical?

Apple has bootcamp which allows them to install other OS's.
Other companies can not install/dual boot OS X because its not a Mac.

Get the point there??

So you want to do this just to make more money?

You are lame.

Um, I think thats point when selling products....

3. What the hell is a Sager, and why would anyone on a Mac forum be particularly interested? Try Craigslist.

A Sager is a laptop. They are mainly used for gaming (specs wise). I don't expect you to have known what it was since I suppose that your a mac only tpe of person.

[Trip.Tucker]

Apple has bootcamp which allows them to install other OS's.
Other companies can not install/dual boot OS X because its not a Mac.

Get the point there??



Um, I think thats point when selling products....



A Sager is a laptop. They are mainly used for gaming (specs wise). I don't expect you to have known what it was since I suppose that your a mac only tpe of person.

I think you took a right when you meant to take a left just before the intersection of Macrumors and osx86 street. If you back up the way you came in, then take the second on your left....

[donmei]

The original poster clearly has no clue.

A better question would be whether it could be done, just for fun. As a hobbyist.

Lets face it, if I've purchased 2 macs, paid a total of over $4000 to apple and I want to just play around with trying to get it to work, its one thing.

Probably not ethically pure, but not too bad.

If I want to sell those machines, well than its a different story. I'd also be screwing my customers, because the next time apple puslishes an OS update, my computers could be off line.

[soms]

Apple has bootcamp which allows them to install other OS's.
Other companies can not install/dual boot OS X because its not a Mac.

Get the point there??



Um, I think thats point when selling products....



A Sager is a laptop. They are mainly used for gaming (specs wise). I don't expect you to have known what it was since I suppose that your a mac only tpe of person.
Its totally different though. You would need some type of emulator for your mobo, as its not designed to boot specific apple software.
Just buy a mac if thats what you want.

[Mock Turtleneck]

Apple has bootcamp which allows them to install other OS's.
Other companies can not install/dual boot OS X because its not a Mac.

Get the point there??

I think that is what we call, in the real world, a selling feature.

Apple can keep their software only on their own platform just like Microsoft could very easily change their own license and code to support their own Microsoft Platform if they wanted.

If you want to run Mac OS X, buy a Mac.

The Mock Turtleneck

[NC MacGuy]

Even though this is an Apple site, any advise about a user circumventing an EULA, no matter what it's for isn't appropriate.

Debating an EULA is a different matter.

I'm surprised the eye in the sky hasn't zapped this thread yet...:rolleyes:

[Cromulent]

Apple simply created a BIOS emulator to allow windows to run on their EFI-based hardware

It is isn't an emulator. You don't even need to use Bootcamp to install Windows on a Mac. Macs have a BIOS compatibility layer which runs natively.

[nick9191]

Yes it can be done. However OS X was made to run on Apple hardware, if you run it on anything else it will run poorly, due to lack of drivers etc. And no if you sell it on here it will not increase the value, it will decrease it if anything.

[benpatient]

Just because you can doesn't make it legal.

Just because someone writes it in an EULA doesn't make it illegal.

[Mock Turtleneck]

Just because someone writes it in an EULA doesn't make it illegal.

I think we're going to find that out before to long, but for now, yes, if it's in the EULA then it's legal.

The Mock Turtleneck

[Cromulent]

I think we're going to find that out before to long, but for now, yes, if it's in the EULA then it's legal.

The Mock Turtleneck

Sorry but when was the EULA put into law in the my country or any others? As has been mentioned many times before on this forum installing OS X on a PC in itself is not illegal. What is illegal is breaking the contract you agreed when you clicked I agree when you installed Mac OS X.

So the illegal activity is breach of contract, not installing OS X on a PC.

[alexxb14]

I don't want to buy a Mac just to experience/see if I would even like OS X. Hence the reason if I could dual boot it....

[iPhil]

I don't want to buy a Mac just to experience/see if I would even like OS X. Hence the reason if I could dual boot it....



If you wanna try Mac OS X before you buy ..Try this lil site (http://computerrentals.com/products/Mac/MacBook/MacBook_rentals.php)...

[mkrishnan]

I think perhaps the fact that your first post was closed or deleted should have been a clue towards some course of action other than making your second post....