View Full Version : Apple's New Digital Device

Oct 17, 2001, 03:52 PM
Mike Ryder (mailto:mryder@biggs-gilmore.com) wrote in to tell us of a Yahoo News article (http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20011017/tc/apple_to_launch_music_device_1.html) describing "the
unveiling of a breakthrough digital device," by Apple on Oct. 23. And according to Apple, "hint: it's not a Mac."
Very interesting. Sources near the company claim it's likely a digital music device. Portable MP3 player? Component CD-RW / MP3 player?
Quite the intriguing report.

Oct 17, 2001, 03:53 PM
please be a Newton :)


Oct 17, 2001, 04:14 PM
According to uk2.net and a whois / trace-root search. Apple has re-registered newton.com as of the 16th of October.



Oct 17, 2001, 04:29 PM
Wow. That would be INSANE if they came out with a new Newton. Christ. But, I dare not let myself get hopeful for such a device. I would throw my iPAQ on eBay so fast it would make your head swim, if a new Newton was released.


Oct 17, 2001, 04:32 PM
Did http://www.newton.com always point to http://www.apple.com?

Oct 17, 2001, 04:40 PM
yep, newton.com always pointed to Apple - every since Newton was killed.

... and Apple never let Newton.com expire... they've held onto it. They probably just reregistered it because it was expiring. But... who knows.

I have my doubts they would use the Newton name again...


Oct 17, 2001, 04:59 PM
May it be that this GigaWire technology could like the "New Digital Device" to your mac???




Oct 17, 2001, 07:29 PM
My guess is it's an airport-enabled MP3 player that looks like an audio component.

Oct 17, 2001, 09:46 PM
Can you imagine me with a Newton? in place of carry the Pismo every where, even the TiBook still too heavy. A Newton with a firewire port would be long way too nice.

From Win to Mac
Oct 17, 2001, 10:03 PM
right... a FireWire Newton

Oct 17, 2001, 10:52 PM
It is a music device, but not what you think! God its so AWESOME!

Its WAY better than any MP3 player because it plays ANY QUICKTIME FILE FORMAT!

It looks like a TiBook/iBook (squared, clean lines, muted tones, metallic) only like small-ish. It runs on batteries or bus powered (yes, bus powered when plugged into a Mac).

When plugged in it mounts like a drive, drag 'n' drop to from it (on OS X only, 10.1 includes secret support for it, read the release notes they mention it). Unplug it, its standalone. RCA audio out stereo, phono plug stereo out, small LCD screen some controls to see file names and play/stop/skip features.



Oct 17, 2001, 11:47 PM
lets hope it is not a mp3 player! There are enough of them out there! However, PDA's are are there also, but all not close to a newton! I have had all ipaqs,visors, and palms!

Apple has a chance to bring to the market a better pda just by updateing the newtons tehnology up to todays current standards. If handspring can converge PIMS and cell phone/data in their treo line without a OS behind it then Apple with its OS X theme of digital hub and converging audio,PIMS,wireless etc......

We will see a PDA from Apple soon........they know no one has hit a homerun yet.....


Oct 17, 2001, 11:48 PM
Sorry but I'm a little unconvinced by Insider's post. Who in their right mind would post on a rumors site while at work???? Let's just say I remain skeptical, although those things do sound reasonable.

Oct 17, 2001, 11:50 PM
How about a little info here? The Newton was a little before my time. What exactly is it that's so great about them? What do they do that others today don't?

Oct 18, 2001, 12:15 AM
shhh, don't tell anyone.

it's a smartphone on steroids. complete with pda, music and video.

Oct 18, 2001, 12:17 AM
where to start?

You'll hear a lot of flak about the early newtons...

Newton OS 2.1 on the MessagePad 2000/2100 was awesome. There were limitations, sure... (mostly connectivity to desktop PC's) but overall, an insanely fine package.

First, the OS was designed to be a handheld OS. It tried to throw out the desktop metaphor because it didn't apply.... things like crossing out text erased it. To copy text, you just dragged it to the side of the screen where it "stuck". Then to paste, you just drag it back. The handwriting recognition was excellent. I've heard rumors that only now Calligrapher 6.0 is surpassing Apple's handwriting recognizer.

The entire system/OS was very unique. All data was stored in "soups" - which were sort of commonly accessible data structutes...

the beauty of this is all apps had access to other app's data... as well, they could easily extend the data sets.

As a result - NO information should be entered twice. I want to call my friend 'Fred'. I can write 'Call Fred' in the notepad, tap on Assist, and it will go to my addressbook, get Fred's phone number and bring it into the Call application....

Or, if a new app comes out that does anything - prints mailing labels, it just pulls address data from the addressbook.

anyway.... the biggest advantage of the Palm was size.


Oct 18, 2001, 12:26 AM
Sounds like a very intelligent design. I wish I had one. Anyone else want to add some thoughts?

Oct 18, 2001, 12:51 AM
Does anyone know the codename of this "new digital device"?

Thanks! :)

Oct 18, 2001, 03:08 AM
Check out this link.
Maybe Apple will use this in there new "device"


Would be great

Archie A. Poole
Oct 18, 2001, 03:47 AM
If they are using c-cube, counld't it be something that allows you to use your imac/desktop mac to record TV programs on DVD-R? or to hard disk?

Oct 18, 2001, 07:02 AM

especially this paragraph

Recently, I read an article suggesting that Apple is developing an IEEE 802.11 (Airport™ in Apple-glish) enabled portable thin client, built on a low power-consumptive x86 chip (hello, Transmeta!). The device will allegedly simply run an OS X shell; the actual processing and storage will occur back at the family/office PowerMac. Hmm, does it seem plausible that Apple is slowly and slyly shifting from a "Single/Multiple-User PC" paradigm to a "Server Appliance/Thin Client" paradigm to anyone else? I wondered what Jobs meant by his obscure reference to the Macintosh becoming the "Digital Hub" for our new "Digital Lifestyles" over the next coming years in his second-to-last keynote address. It seems Apple might have to get on this new "tablet" bandwagon, as Microsoft surely seems to be pushing the notion--though MS wants your entire system on-board, and Apple's alleged strategy would enable much cheaper hardware than a standalone Tablet PC from "the competition" with its onboard storage media.

Oct 18, 2001, 09:35 AM
I don't really know what Apple will Release this next week, but I sure know I am excited. For once we know something big is coming, and so it puts everyone on edge. All I know is whatever it is, Apple will make the best product it can.

I just love Apple

Oct 18, 2001, 10:29 AM
Hmmm... wasn't it a month or two ago that Steve's was making some comment about no new hardware for the rest of the year... nahhhhhh, must be thinking of someone else =)

Oct 18, 2001, 10:50 AM
It doesnt seem logical to me for apple to make a music device.
Still be kool seeing as this is really apples first big move towards their digital hub dream.

Oct 18, 2001, 11:02 AM
<a href="http://www.slimdevices.com">Slim Devices</a> has the Slashdot'ed network MP3 player. New Apple product, assuming that it IS a music device, might be something like this. Also, after they reported that the serial# 0001 machine had rolled out, they disappeared. Could they have been bought out by Apple?

Oct 19, 2001, 07:25 AM
i remember when my wife went to computer repair school and the teacher fortold of a time when computer companies would shift their emphasis slowly but totally to non desktop computers, perhaps small handheld gadjets...apple may take that first step

hey, woz invented the real first personal computer and now someone will be noted in history as spearheading the beginnig of the end of desktops being the dominant income stream for a company...apple switched their legal name from apple computers to apple this year

Oct 19, 2001, 10:26 AM
I don't have any insider sources, and I don't know that much about the industry. What I do know is that it would be a bad idea for apple to make a PDA just like everyone else, and they know that. Apple also knows that there's the mp3 market is cluttered with dozens of mp3 players, so making just another mp3 player wouldn't be a good idea.

But it seems to me that were apple to combine the two industries (which hasn't been done yet) to create a PDA/Advanced MP3 player with a scaled down version of iTunes on it, it could do quite well. Stick in a totally revised Newton OS under a completely different name, plus an ultraslim form factor, then you've got yourself one kick-ass product.

Just my two cents.

Oct 22, 2001, 05:34 PM
Guys - it will just be good service in Europe.
That's it.
And MacOS X.1-Updates will be available (they burn CD-ROMs now...)

Oct 22, 2001, 08:11 PM
i am anxious but what about cost i don't want a really expensive thing i want something that is available for everyone and inexpensive

Oct 22, 2001, 08:54 PM
Apple knows this. They'll try to keep the cost down.