Non Mac Setup related banter

[bluedoggiant]

I think I'm addicted. Anyway, I'm really comfortable with this layout, and I finally figured out how to use the blinky thing on my camera!

Still the powerbook, E248WFP, MX Revolution, and Aluminum keyboard.

Comments are more than welcome.

Get Leopard.


Get Intel.

[iMpathetic]

Get Leopard.


Get Intel.

Leopard is trash.

No.

[bluedoggiant]

Leopard is trash.

No.

Why do you run it on your iBook and PMG4?

And why? Its only better.

[Brianstorm91]

What? Another thread? I thought the last one'd just died down.
I believe this is was you call a "convulging series".

[Aranince]

Hey, I was thinking of getting the E248WFP. How do you like it?

2X. I'm wondering how easy it is to run two windows side by side at 1900x1200.

[iMpathetic]

Why do you run it on your iBook and PMG4?

And why? Its only better.

Tiger is on the iBook now. It's on the PMG4 cause I'm selling it and it'll make it worth more.

No, no it isn't. Horribly bloated. Far too much eye candy.

[iMpathetic]

2X. I'm wondering how easy it is to run two windows side by side at 1900x1200.

It's an awesome display. It looks nice and has great color.

Two windows at 1920x1200 are pretty much two MR forum pages with no side scrolling.

[Me1000]

Tiger is on the iBook now. It's on the PMG4 cause I'm selling it and it'll make it worth more.

No, no it isn't. Horribly bloated. Far too much eye candy.

Leopard has been nothing but faster for me!
the eye candy is only in moderation, and doesnt really affect the speed of it at all... (on my intel macs anyway)

[iMpathetic]

Leopard has been nothing but faster for me!
the eye candy is only in moderation, and doesnt really affect the speed of it at all... (on my intel macs anyway)

Yeah, but I'm still slogging along on PPC. Ah well, I like Tiger, so it's not a huge deal.

[Brianstorm91]

Yeah, but I'm still slogging along on PPC. Ah well, I like Tiger, so it's not a huge deal.

I'm on Leopard on a PPC and have had no problems.

[iMpathetic]

I'm on Leopard on a PPC and have had no problems.

All right then, maybe I'll install Leopard on this 1.67GHz Powerbook, think it'll run okay?

[Cassie]

O_O its almost the same aspect ratio as on cinema screens (2:35:1)

I think you are mistaken...

She probably meant 1080x1480

It still isnt 4:3 aspect ratio her monitor has.

either way, the res is terrible...i bet
Ok, I actually got my PC working, and the real resolution is 1024 x 768. There, happy?;)
Get Leopard.


Get Intel.

Leopard is trash.

No.

Why do you run it on your iBook and PMG4?

And why? Its only better.

Tiger is on the iBook now. It's on the PMG4 cause I'm selling it and it'll make it worth more.

No, no it isn't. Horribly bloated. Far too much eye candy.
Calm down there guys, you have your opinions. bluedoggiant, many people on these forums (Such as iMpathectic and me) prefer PPC over Intel, and Tiger over Leopard, for a number of reasons. You think Intel and Leopard are better? Awesome, have fun, but don't force your views on ours.
All right then, maybe I'll install Leopard on this 1.67GHz Powerbook, think it'll run okay?

Perfectly. I run it on 1.33 Ghz and 512 MB RAM, and It runs fairly well, so it should run even better on your PowerBook.

[iMpathetic]

Perfectly. I run it on 1.33 Ghz and 512 MB RAM, and It runs fairly well, so it should run even better on your PowerBook.

True, but do you remember how I tried to install it on my iBook G4? Not a pretty sight.

[Cassie]

True, but do you remember how I tried to install it on my iBook G4? Not a pretty sight.

Actually, no, I have a terrible memory, (as everyone should know at this point) but maybe you could refresh me on that?

[ryannel2003]

The thread clearly states "Post Your Mac Setup" so I will break the mold and actually post something interesting; Bluedoggiant and iMpathetic, get a room.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6053/img3674pg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[iMpathetic]

The thread clearly states "Post Your Mac Setup" so I will break the mold and actually post something interesting; Bluedoggiant and iMpathetic, get a room.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6053/img3674pg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sorry! :p I really like these setups where laptops are on bedspreads. It looks really nice!

iPromise iWon't get into aRguments anymore.

[bluedoggiant]

Tiger is on the iBook now. It's on the PMG4 cause I'm selling it and it'll make it worth more.

No, no it isn't. Horribly bloated. Far too much eye candy.

i was talking about intel in the second line, its only better.

Yeah, but I'm still slogging along on PPC. Ah well, I like Tiger, so it's not a huge deal.

You had a blackbook, no idea why you sold it

[iMpathetic]

i was talking about intel in the second line, its only better.



You had a blackbook, no idea why you sold it

Okay I understand what you meant now.

I sold the blackbook cause I got $1200 for it and I couldn't resist.

Now, please, don't distract me anymore! :p

[ryannel2003]

Sorry! :p I really like these setups where laptops are on bedspreads. It looks really nice!

iPromise iWon't get into aRguments anymore.

Admitting mistakes makes you the bigger person...

Congrats, you earned yourself one of these: :cool:

Haha.

[ryannel2003]

In that case, I'd have to disagree. PPC is far more efficient and the price markups they have put on the Intel machines are unreal...

Anyway, yeah, here's my iBook G4.

PPC more efficient? How? If you mean heating your house, then it might be more efficient. Intel's are clearly more efficient processors, and much faster as well.

Price markups? The last iBook G4 was only $100 cheaper than the MacBook and it lacked the widescreen display, webcam, faster processor, and more HD space. That's not really insane; used prices on early MacBook's continue to fall. I've seen a few going for $700. The last gen iBook's still sell for $500-$550 in good condition. It's worth every penny spent.

[iMpathetic]

PPC more efficient? How? If you mean heating your house, then it might be more efficient. Intel's are clearly more efficient processors, and much faster as well.


Now THAT was funny, yet somehow true. :D I had a broken Quicksilver that would just sit there and run at 100% load forever. I put it in the spare room to use as a space heater. And I'm not even joking.

Admitting mistakes makes you the bigger person...

Congrats, you earned yourself one of these: :cool:

Haha.

I am touched, good sir. Anyway, I'll post some pictures that shift focus to the Windows side of the equation. Currently, I'm serving as the general tech person for a guy in South Dakota. He came to buy one of my laptops off Craigslist when he was visiting family here in NC. He ended up leaving his laptop with me because it was getting really slow, and wanted to know if I could make it any faster.

I agreed, but then I began selling him on a new computer. He had used Macs in the past, but had gone back to PCs because Virtual PC was too sluggish on his iBook G3. He was going to buy a thinkpad, but on my say-so, he agreed to buy a brand new 2.4GHz white MacBook. In exchange for the help I'm giving him as he switches to Mac for the second time, I'm earning his old computer at the rate of $15 an hour. I think I'm at $125 now, and I need to get to $200.

Anyway, yeah, a long-winded post, and you probably don't care anyway. Basically, I've ended up with an A-list fatty. it's an HP zv5320us. Whoopee. I actually like it though. It's running a 2.2GHz Athlon XP-M, with a decent 512MB RAM and an 80GB hard drive. It's gigantic. But, I like 'em big, assuming you can count "big" for a lappy as 9 pounds, which I am adamantly sure is possible.

Here's a craptastic picture of it.

[iMpathetic]

STFU

dorm setup:


Wow! That's amazing! Attention spans have finally shortened to the point where people frown upon intelligent conversation!

Just kidding! :p

Seriously, a little more tolerance in this thread would be nice.

[ryannel2003]

dorm setup:

Whoa, somebody is a little crabby tonight. I'm going to continue with my blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

I hope you continue having a blah blah wonderblah ful evening. Blah.

[kflook]

Now THAT was funny, yet somehow true. :D I had a broken Quicksilver that would just sit there and run at 100% load forever. I put it in the spare room to use as a space heater. And I'm not even joking.

I used to leave my Dual 867 G4 MDD and the Mitsubishi CRT I had hooked up together on overnight if it was really cold in my room...:D

[iMpathetic]

I used to leave my Dual 867 G4 MDD and the Mitsubishi CRT I had hooked up together on overnight if it was really cold in my room...:D

Well, of course you'd notice the heat of a 'puter up there. However, mine got so hot, it actually made the room hotter in North Carolina. That's down South, folks. Great state, but a bit mundane. Except for teh Triangle, of course. Glad I live there! :D

[Cassie]

I've been feeling kind of blah lately, how about you?

Blahtastic.

Just FYI, there's a Windows setup thread. :P

[iMpathetic]

Blahtastic.

Just FYI, there's a Windows setup thread. :P

This one is more exciting. I don't actually like looking at glowing neon boxes all day.

Ugh, the stupid keyboard backlight- makes me feel all dizzy and stuff.

[janey]

You think Intel and Leopard are better? Awesome, have fun, but don't force your views on ours.
I just hope that should tiger reach its EOL that you eventually upgrade to Leopard for security updates, at the minimum. Right now, Apple's providing security updates for Tiger and software on Tiger, but that's not going to be the case in the future.

Personally, from an admin standpoint (small network though :( ) if someone's not doing at the minimum security updates for the software they use, I lecture them on security and kick them off the network and provide zero support until they update. Too much of a headache dealing with old OSs and old software with swiss cheese security. :D

...PPC is far more efficient...
I'd like to know what you consider efficient? I mean, IBM were stagnating with lower-voltage chips for laptops. That alone was a huge reason..the G5s in the desktops were hardly doing better. Intel has no problems, and in fact I'd prolly say they're a bit too arrogant about their pretty decent lower voltage and ultra-low voltage products. So no, from that point of view PPC was far from efficient.

[puke]

Is it only me who love when Cassie and iMpathetic are discussing something? Haha, sometimes I wish this thread was instant. :)

Will post setup soon.

[tr0jan]

my living room:
http://thomi.apfelcouch.de/bilder/cache/macintosh/IMG_1653.jpg_700.jpg



What Toshiba is that? I am in the market for the 37 regazza (sp)... how is it?

hi this is a 42 X 3000 P!
its a very good TV with good colours/contrast and of course FULLHD!
works very good with my mac mini and the ps3..

the only thing, which is very annoying is when you shut off the TV and later you turn it on, the signal from your mac doesnt receive the TV.. so you have to send your mini into the sleepmode or unplug/plug in the hdmi-cable..

best regards,
t-

[zap2]

many....prefer PPC over Intel,



Why? Intel is faster and uses less power.

The only this is the iBook, since Apple has yet to replace it with a 12'' laptop....but even then, its not the PPC that is good, its the design.

[techlover828]

god, this thread is getting ridiculous, can we try to stick to mac setups please... thanks

[Cassie]

I just hope that should tiger reach its EOL that you eventually upgrade to Leopard for security updates, at the minimum. Right now, Apple's providing security updates for Tiger and software on Tiger, but that's not going to be the case in the future.

Personally, from an admin standpoint (small network though :( ) if someone's not doing at the minimum security updates for the software they use, I lecture them on security and kick them off the network and provide zero support until they update. Too much of a headache dealing with old OSs and old software with swiss cheese security. :D
I already have Leopard on my iBook G4, I just prefer Tiger.

I'd like to know what you consider efficient? I mean, IBM were stagnating with lower-voltage chips for laptops. That alone was a huge reason..the G5s in the desktops were hardly doing better. Intel has no problems, and in fact I'd prolly say they're a bit too arrogant about their pretty decent lower voltage and ultra-low voltage products. So no, from that point of view PPC was far from efficient. It's probably just my mind believing what it wants to believe, but it seems to me that my 1.33 GHz G4 loads things a lot faster then my 1.83 GHz Intel machine, with the same amount if RAM. The G4 seems to boot faster, load apps faster, and not lag nearly as bad as the Intel. But maybe that's just me.

[iMpathetic]

I already have Leopard on my iBook G4, I just prefer Tiger.

It's probably just my mind believing what it wants to believe, but it seems to me that my 1.33 GHz G4 loads things a lot faster then my 1.83 GHz Intel machine, with the same amount if RAM. The G4 seems to boot faster, load apps faster, and not lag nearly as bad as the Intel. But maybe that's just me.

You know, it's probably because your hard drive doesn't have as much clutter on it from use. You've only had the iBook for a few weeks, right?

[zap2]

It's probably just my mind believing what it wants to believe, but it seems to me that my 1.33 GHz G4 loads things a lot faster then my 1.83 GHz Intel machine, with the same amount if RAM. The G4 seems to boot faster, load apps faster, and not lag nearly as bad as the Intel. But maybe that's just me.

Well, its either your mind(which really means you're wrong) or some other outside source.

Either way, I'd try to find the reason, so you can have a faster Mac

[daneoni]

Maybe its the Velocity Engine or AltiVec or whatever. Also Cassie's mini only has 512MB of RAM which is shared with the GMA 950...that pegs performance significantly. Meanwhile the G4 has a dedicated GPU which helps a little.

IMHO you need at least 2GB of RAM to run things decently in both Tiger & Leopard. Only in Panther or earlier can you really get away with even 256MB

PS i'm also a fan of Tiger...its still the main OS i use.

Also this should be the point where i post my setup but i already have in previous threads so...

[iMpathetic]

Maybe its the Velocity Engine or AltiVec or whatever. Also Cassie's mini only has 512MB of RAM which is shared with the GMA 950...that pegs performance significantly. Meanwhile the G4 has a dedicated GPU which helps a little.

IMHO you need at least 2GB of RAM to run things decently in both Tiger & Leopard. Only in Panther or earlier can you really get away with even 256MB

PS i'm also a fan of Tiger...its still the main OS i use.

Also this should be the point where i post my setup but i already have in previous threads so...

I disagree. My Powerbook has never had less then 800MB to spare out of its 1.5GB. Leopard requires maybe 1GB for normal use.

Most people tend to underestimate the ability of the Mac OS to conserve memory.

Also, doesn't the iBook also have 512MB? This is a little odd for sure, but calling a G4 faster clock-for-clock than, say, a Core Duo is ridiculous. I think, based on Geekbench tests, that the Pentium M can toast a G4 as well. :p

Kinda embarrassing....

[Mackilroy]

Hm, I typically have about 1.5 GB of the 2 GB of RAM in my MacBook free, unless I have a ton of Safari windows open or a bunch of programs running. But if it's a fresh boot, or I've only been running, say, Word and iTunes, it uses barely any more RAM on my system than Tiger did.

[Brianstorm91]

This isn't the right place for a long conversation, please.

[iMpathetic]

i reported the posts. hopefully we can get this thread back on track! I want to see more setups not useless offtopic conversation! :mad:

Yeah, telling us to STFU is really going to make the mods bend over backward to satisfy you.

[daneoni]

I disagree. My Powerbook has never had less then 800MB to spare out of its 1.5GB. Leopard requires maybe 1GB for normal use.

Most people tend to underestimate the ability of the Mac OS to conserve memory.

Also, doesn't the iBook also have 512MB? This is a little odd for sure, but calling a G4 faster clock-for-clock than, say, a Core Duo is ridiculous. I think, based on Geekbench tests, that the Pentium M can toast a G4 as well. :p

Kinda embarrassing....

The iBook doesn't have to share its 512 with the GPU though like the mini. I'd agree that a G4 can run Tiger with 1GB since my Hi-Res PB did back in the day decently

Wow...so 2GB for Tiger, but Panther was good with 1/8th of that? Come on!

I run 10.5 with 1.25Gb and 512Mb and both are fine. My iBook will have trouble with 10.6, with such little RAM, but for now its works(not crazy fast, but enough for Pages and Safari)


To say you need 2GB to run 10.5, let alone 10.4, is just nuts.

Im just speaking from my personal experience. My 12 incher ran panther well at 256MB and it was even better when i upped it to 512MB. I installed Tiger on the same system and well...it just wasnt happening.

My iMac came with 1GB RAM stock and Tiger. I used it that way for a week before my RAM upgrade came. During that week whilst things worked generally, i was experiencing beachballs and lots of pageouts frequently and found myself trying not to open more than two three apps at a go.

It was even less pleasant on my BlackBook which came with Leopard but also 1GB. Things were jerky and laggy in addition to the beachballing. Then again maybe its was just new OS syndrome

Upgrading to 2GB in both cases made my life easier.

Maybe i'm just not an 'average'/'basic' user, maybe its the Intel OSes that are hungrier than their PPC counterparts buti've learned that anything less than 2GB...doesn't work well...for me anyway.