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alam
Apr 28, 2008, 08:57 AM
i think some of us is disappointed with the new imac improvment :(
what i've just seen in the new imac is just speed improvment and graphic changes, what i really was expecting to see is:-
1_ bigger storage.
2_ change in the design, at least a bigger screen size (28-32 inch) so i can replace my tv in my room.

so why should buy the new imac, i can just wait until they sell the upgraded graphic card just like what they did to the macbook pro, and buy a new storage :confused:

there is no good damn reason to buy and waist my money for the new imac :confused:

does any body agrees with me here?? :p hope that i'm not the only one who thinks in this whay???



edesignuk
Apr 28, 2008, 08:59 AM
1TB is still the biggest drive you can get, what do you expect Apple to do about this?

The current design is a recent one, they've done a nice little bump in speed and graphics, and dropped the price in some places.

What more do you want?

You can't upgrade the graphics yourself on an iMac either, so good luck with that :rolleyes:

tizod
Apr 28, 2008, 09:10 AM
My only disappointment is in the fact that the only real "upgrade" is to the top of the line model.

Even if I had waited instead of buying the 20" refurb I would not have jumped to the 24" top end model.

The difference between the 20" 2.4 of old and the new 20" is negligible if that making the refurb an even more attractive buy IMO.

alam
Apr 28, 2008, 09:13 AM
1TB is still the biggest drive you can get, what do you expect Apple to do about this?

The current design is a recent one, they've done a nice little bump in speed and graphics, and dropped the price in some places.

What more do you want?

You can't upgrade the graphics yourself on an iMac either, so good luck with that :rolleyes:

lool man 1 tb is great, but they should at least change the 24 inch(1799us dollar) to 750 Gb, and the big fellow (2199 us dollar 750gb jumps to 1tb :cool: ) now were talking :cool: and if ur thinking about buy the 1tb it's gonna coast money :( it's not for free u know :)

and i'm not angry for apple i'm just disappointed because apple always surprise us with there new product, for example: iphone, macbook air :o
but the new imac is not that surprise, not like what they always do :(

edesignuk
Apr 28, 2008, 09:16 AM
and i'm not angry for apple i'm just disappointed because apple always surprise us with there new product, for example: iphone, macbook air :o
but the new imac is not that surprise, not like what they always do :(The iMac isn't a new product, it's an update. You can't possibly expect a full redesign every time Intel hand them a speed bump.

Queso
Apr 28, 2008, 09:16 AM
Firstly you waste money, not waist it, which sort of means you wear it on a belt or something ;)

My iMac is from the generation just replaced. This, like all the Macs I've owned before, means it has a good few years worth of use in it yet. So I'll keep my money invested and let others boost AAPL profits :D

ditzy
Apr 28, 2008, 09:17 AM
I wasn't expecting any more than has been given. In fact I was expecting less than has been delivered. So put it this way my credit card has been used today.

gleaner
Apr 28, 2008, 09:37 AM
well...well...well...

In a way I am glad I didn't wait for this upgrade and got a 20' refurb 2.4GHz instead.....

I am a bit disappointed that Apple didn't really upgrade the other models other than the 24'

tizod
Apr 28, 2008, 10:18 AM
DOH! Anyone else notice that they dropped the price on the refurbs another $200?

PlaceofDis
Apr 28, 2008, 10:21 AM
The iMac isn't a new product, it's an update. You can't possibly expect a full redesign every time Intel hand them a speed bump.

exactly.

this is a speedbump, not an overhaul. no need to redesign something that doesn't need it. and for a minor update its pretty solid. for those waiting or for those about to purchase this is great, but no need for most people to update

Sky Blue
Apr 28, 2008, 10:26 AM
and i'm not angry for apple i'm just disappointed because apple always surprise us with there new product, for example: iphone, macbook air :o
but the new imac is not that surprise, not like what they always do :(

It's an update. There was a new iPhone when they increased the storage to 16GB. If there was a redesign Steve would show it off to the press.

PCNot
Apr 28, 2008, 10:53 AM
I am happy with the upgrade in Video and Processor. This is what I was waiting for so, my order is in :)]

To me, it was worth the wait! :D

nuckinfutz
Apr 28, 2008, 11:03 AM
Redesign? For what? There have been no architectural changes that really warrant a redesign.

Apple may not even redesign with the next major Intel chip Nehalem when it hits later on this year. I don't see many sweeping changes that need to be made anyways.

pilotError
Apr 28, 2008, 11:08 AM
I wish there were a wait and see option. We really don't know which screen the new iMac's ship with right now.

Other than that, I think it's a nice upgrade. Not enough to get me to see my current iMac though.

Bokes
Apr 28, 2008, 11:23 AM
Why is almost every upgrade greeted with posts of disappointment?
Has there ever been an update that's been received with universal joy?

PlaceofDis
Apr 28, 2008, 11:32 AM
Why is almost every upgrade greeted with posts of disappointment?
Has there ever been an update that's been received with universal joy?

no. this is impossible. the universe would simply implode on itself

ditzy
Apr 28, 2008, 11:32 AM
Why is almost every upgrade greeted with posts of disappointment?
Has there ever been an update that's been received with universal joy?

Can't please all of the people all of the time. Best you can go for is some off the people some of the time.

ryannel2003
Apr 28, 2008, 11:35 AM
Why is almost every upgrade greeted with posts of disappointment?
Has there ever been an update that's been received with universal joy?

Apple can't please everybody. There is always gonna be people who don't like a certain thing (ex. aluminum or glossy screens). People are already complaining about the 8800GS being an outdated chip, even though it kills the standard 2600HD.

It's just life. All I know is that the update was more than I expected.

MatWith1T
Apr 28, 2008, 11:41 AM
Already ordered mine - but then again I am upgrading from my 1.2 ghz PowerPC PowerMac, so 'how large' a bump it got from the last generation is kinda a moot point for me.

I was waiting for a GPU upgrade and it's here, so I am pulling the trigger.

nick9191
Apr 28, 2008, 11:52 AM
Why is almost every upgrade greeted with posts of disappointment?
Has there ever been an update that's been received with universal joy?
No theres always some idiot that wants a quad core, quad sli, blu ray macbook pro, for under $2k, and 1" thin.

lugesm
Apr 28, 2008, 11:52 AM
How much is a 7 month old 24" iMac @ 2.4Ghz & 3GB worth? :rolleyes:

alam
Apr 28, 2008, 12:01 PM
well the poll judges that most of the users choose to stick to there old imac and not throw it away :o

if there was a really big difference then they would chosen the first option: "buy the new imac and throw the old imac"

am i right about this........
i'm not saying that the new imac sucks, nooooooo it really cool, i can finally play some really good games with it :rolleyes: , but it's not worth to pay 1799$ or if i want the 8800gs nvidia then i should pay 150$ so it's 1949$ and without nvidia crysis game will sucks :p
i can keep my old imac and stick to my xbox, and here i'm, didn't waist a dollar for it :D

i'm i right or wrong???? :rolleyes:

Already ordered mine - but then again I am upgrading from my 1.2 ghz PowerPC PowerMac, so 'how large' a bump it got from the last generation is kinda a moot point for me.

I was waiting for a GPU upgrade and it's here, so I am pulling the trigger.

know that what i call a worth to buy :D
good luck my friend ;) but for me, i think i'm gonna stick to my imac 24 inch 2.4 ghz, until maybe in the future after 4 to 5 years a new processor will be evented :rolleyes:

i hope that they will call it the apple inside processor :D lloooooll

Queso
Apr 28, 2008, 12:09 PM
I can't speak for everyone, but for me you're definitely wrong. I amortise my computer purchases as depreciable assets, so each one has to last me four years whatever else comes out in the meantime. So the only way I'd get one of these new babies is if my current one developed a fault and AppleCare replaced it.

Besides, always chasing the latest and greatest leads to repeated disappointment. MatWith1T has the right idea. Upgrade when you realise you need to, not just because you want to.

iPhil
Apr 28, 2008, 12:21 PM
How much is a 7 month old 24" iMac @ 2.4Ghz & 3GB worth? :rolleyes:



Did you check here (http://www.mac2sell.net/) for a price on the iMac ? :rolleyes:

Zwhaler
Apr 28, 2008, 12:46 PM
My old 2006 iMac is fine... I don't need to "waist" any money on a new one. And what were people expecting? They upped the CPU speed, upped the FSB speed, and introduced a better 24" model.

Alloye
Apr 28, 2008, 01:11 PM
This is a nice update, but my nine-month-old 24" iMac is fine for now.

psychofreak
Apr 28, 2008, 01:15 PM
Just to clarify, do we know if this is Montevina?

My mum is saving to buy one, but if its Montevina at least I'll know that its the latest tech, that will last her a very long time (no way she needs more specs than the old model, but we get the HE discount on the new one and it needs to last a long time). Either way, she's desperate for a new computer, and her Dell is basically finished.

saltyzoo
Apr 28, 2008, 01:20 PM
You forgot the "I wouldn't buy an integrated monitor / cpu ever, ever. Ever." option.

D4F
Apr 28, 2008, 01:25 PM
The last update is a great improvement.
the 3.06 + nVidia power and you got yourself a awesome graphic design machine.
I returned my 2.4 24" today and got the 3.06 ans **** the difference is big :D
Rendering times are faster and the nvidia is doing awesome job.
I'm happy. No.. Actually I am very happy :D

JayLenochiniMac
Apr 28, 2008, 03:05 PM
I like to get a new computer, run it down to the ground, and replace it every few years (same thing with cars). The 2.8 I got last year was actually more computer than I needed especially for home (I maxed the processor speed maybe only once during the whole time I owned it), but I bought it new and with Applecare. Also charged it to Amex so it'll get a total of four years of protection. So I'm unconcerned about any updates in the next three years, although I'm happy that the iMac got a nice boost for those who need to buy it now.

CWallace
Apr 28, 2008, 03:07 PM
Just to clarify, do we know if this is Montevina?

(See Below)

bobr1952
Apr 28, 2008, 03:15 PM
I guess I'll keep my "old" 3-month iMac--LOL I could have waited of course, but then I would be 3-months behind on my transition from PC to Mac--so I'm pretty happy with the iMac I have. :)

James Howlett
Apr 28, 2008, 03:29 PM
Upgrading from a 2.08 Ghz single core AMD with integrated graphics, 80 gig HDD running windows on a 15" monitor..

so yeah, this is a huge update for me.

Stratus Fear
Apr 28, 2008, 04:47 PM
My only disappointment is in the fact that the only real "upgrade" is to the top of the line model.

Even if I had waited instead of buying the 20" refurb I would not have jumped to the 24" top end model.

The difference between the 20" 2.4 of old and the new 20" is negligible if that making the refurb an even more attractive buy IMO.

This was my opinion on it. And if you like the 24" display, the 24" 2.4 is $1400 refurb now, from what I saw on the Apple store. $100 less than the new 2.66 20". Seems like a deal to me.

Achiever
Apr 28, 2008, 04:53 PM
This was a pretty solid upgrade considering it was only "speedbump" update and not a redesign. A bit surprised the standard HD space wasn't increased, but still a quality upgrade. Not at all surprised Blu-Ray is still not an option, either. People need to get a grip with that.

Achiever
Apr 28, 2008, 04:55 PM
Yes. The new CPUs use a 1066MHz FSB and the memory speed is now 800MHz. Both of these are available only with Montevina.

You know, I've heard people speculate that this is Montevina, but I've read a few articles where folks in "the know" claim that it is still Penryn. I personally don't know but just wanted to report that reasonable minds are still differing on this issue.

ROFISH
Apr 28, 2008, 04:56 PM
Yes. The new CPUs use a 1066MHz FSB and the memory speed is now 800MHz. Both of these are available only with Montevina.

No. As has been reported on the front page of this website, it's just an overclocked Santa Rosa/Penryn combo to Montevina/Penryn speeds. It does not provide the new Montevina toys. (Like WiMax.)

OZMP
Apr 28, 2008, 06:25 PM
the new machine should be nice, 25% increase in FSB

alam
Apr 29, 2008, 01:30 AM
wish to every one good luck for the new imac, but i'm gonna wait until a really big change with the imac.
like a new redesigned imac. :cool:
a new type of processor in the few next 2-3 years ;), maybe they will call it "apple inside" lool :p

and for the games..... i'll stick to my xbox :p

good luck for anyone who's gonna buy the new imac ;)

harcosparky
Apr 29, 2008, 05:28 AM
Our current iMacs are from the last variation.

Both are 24", 2.4Ghz.

Would I sell one of them to buy one of the new ones?

No, that would not be wise.

What I might do is buy one of the new ones, the high end model and retire one of our older G4 Powermacs. I'd keep the new one for me and pass one of the 2.4Ghz one down to one of my children.

G4DP
Apr 29, 2008, 05:54 AM
You guy's need to stop bitching about the iMac updgrade, it was a lot better than the last Mac Pro one.

You get the same amount of Ram and the same or bigger HD, stop biatching.

Be grateful Apple cares more about consumer machines than it does it's pro business.

amiga
Apr 29, 2008, 06:26 AM
I thought it was a good update... so good infact I rushed straight out and got the top of the lone one and very pleased I am with it :D Though I was I was at home with my mits on it rather than stuck at work.

ukmacmonster
Apr 29, 2008, 08:57 AM
I think it's a reasonable update and the top line 24" is a pretty big update if you're a gamer or 3D designer.

Let's be realistic here. If you already owned the previous gen alu iMac from Aug 2007, it would not be cost effective to upgrade now to this tweaked version. But if you have a much older gen iMac eg. G4 / G5, this is as good a time as any to upgrade to the latest spec.

Anyway it was enough of a step to finally convince me to retire my G5 iMac.

edesignuk
Apr 29, 2008, 08:59 AM
well the poll judges that most of the users choose to stick to there old imac and not throw it away :o

if there was a really big difference then they would chosen the first option: "buy the new imac and throw the old imac"

am i right about this........
i'm not saying that the new imac sucks, nooooooo it really cool, i can finally play some really good games with it :rolleyes: , but it's not worth to pay 1799$ or if i want the 8800gs nvidia then i should pay 150$ so it's 1949$ and without nvidia crysis game will sucks :p
i can keep my old imac and stick to my xbox, and here i'm, didn't waist a dollar for it :D

i'm i right or wrong???? :rolleyes:



know that what i call a worth to buy :D
good luck my friend ;) but for me, i think i'm gonna stick to my imac 24 inch 2.4 ghz, until maybe in the future after 4 to 5 years a new processor will be evented :rolleyes:

i hope that they will call it the apple inside processor :D llooooollThis is such a spectacularly stupid thread. You don't seem to grasp the concept of an update to a product line verses a full refresh/new product. Your poll doesn't prove squat.

:confused: :rolleyes:

TBi
Apr 29, 2008, 08:59 AM
I chose "My old imac is great for me, no need to waist any money " only because waste was spelt wrong :D

ukmacmonster
Apr 29, 2008, 09:08 AM
This is such a spectacularly stupid thread. You don't seem to grasp the concept of an update to a product line verses a full refresh/new product. Your poll doesn't prove squat.

:confused: :rolleyes:


I agree. Whether or not it's worth upgrading depends entirely on how out-dated your existing machine is. I'm upgrading from a 3+ year old G5, so this is now clearly a good time to go for it. Certainly a better time than last week!

PCNot
Apr 29, 2008, 11:37 AM
Who cares what the poll says ... My new IMAC will be at my doorstep on Friday! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

D4F
Apr 29, 2008, 11:40 AM
Who cares what the poll says ... My new IMAC will be at my doorstep on Friday! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

And I'm pretty confident you'll love it:D

:apple:

ucfgrad93
Apr 29, 2008, 12:12 PM
I got my iMac in August 2007 when they introduced the aluminum ones. It is way to soon for me to even consider getting rid of it. I might pick up a new one later this year, if I can afford it financially.

jlchee
Apr 29, 2008, 01:17 PM
It sure sounds pathetic to hear what some of these posts are complaining about. One gets speed bumps, better video card, more memory, faster bus speed and all for the same price range. Just goes to show why some species eat their young. I would consider selling m,y new iMac for around the same price I paid and purchase a new one just for the experience of "keeping up" with the product. I couldn't be happier.

jessica.
Apr 29, 2008, 01:21 PM
i think some of us is disappointed with the new imac improvment :(
what i've just seen in the new imac is just speed improvment and graphic changes, what i really was expecting to see is:-
1_ bigger storage.
2_ change in the design, at least a bigger screen size (28-32 inch) so i can replace my tv in my room.

so why should buy the new imac, i can just wait until they sell the upgraded graphic card just like what they did to the macbook pro, and buy a new storage :confused:

there is no good damn reason to buy and waist my money for the new imac :confused:

does any body agrees with me here?? :p hope that i'm not the only one who thinks in this whay???

Fact: With every new update people will always find the negative.
Solution: If it doesn't suit your needs don't buy it. There are MANY other computers out there that should serve your purposes.

alam
Apr 29, 2008, 01:22 PM
This is such a spectacularly stupid thread. You don't seem to grasp the concept of an update to a product line verses a full refresh/new product. Your poll doesn't prove squat.

:confused: :rolleyes:

i'm really confused :confused:
so my poll doesn't mean anything now :p it's a joke right, cause i didn't answer all these answers
i wrote the quasetion only and the answers came from the other users right :confused:

i don't understand, there are some people defend imac or apple like it's a god or somthing :p take it easy ;)

you don't have to be an apple biatch :p

and i didn't say that the new imac sucks it's just not necessary to buy it now

but for old imac users, i mean really old, then it's the best deal available, and i admit it

D4F
Apr 29, 2008, 01:37 PM
i think some of us is disappointed with the new imac improvment :(
what i've just seen in the new imac is just speed improvment and graphic changes, what i really was expecting to see is:-
1_ bigger storage.
2_ change in the design, at least a bigger screen size (28-32 inch) so i can replace my tv in my room.

so why should buy the new imac, i can just wait until they sell the upgraded graphic card just like what they did to the macbook pro, and buy a new storage :confused:

there is no good damn reason to buy and waist my money for the new imac :confused:

does any body agrees with me here?? :p hope that i'm not the only one who thinks in this whay???


1 - I am not sure what's the issue people talking about bigger storage.
You can get external 500GB for cheap these days and it's actually a better choice as you can put a 10K RPM drive there and enjoy better performance.

2 - iMac will not be bigger (or not in the near future for sure) as it will challenge standalone Apple Screens.

By your theory iMac didn't change much but what you fail to see is that from a regular desktop this update transformed it to a very good machine that can handle some serious applications without any issue. It's power went double in many cases and price remained the same.

Now i have a awesome designing tool and quite badass gaming system.
People that complain must be true pessimist as this is by far the best iMac update ever.