Photo of 3G iPhone?

[NextTuesday]

So Engadget is reporting (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/02/next-gen-iphone-spotted-in-the-wild/) that the French blog, iPhon.fr recieved two pictures of a new iPhone, its all black and its shape seems to match what the latest rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/30/iphone-accessory-makers-detail-3g-iphone-design/) have been saying.

Thing is, I find it rather horrendous.

Link to the engadget story: http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/02/next-gen-iphone-spotted-in-the-wild/

Original (translated from French) iPhon.fr story: http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iphon.fr%2F&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

What do you guys think? Real or Fake?

[Hudzilla]

Engadget are showing a picture that is allegedly the next gen iphone.

Ill let you decide, but if true its dissapoiting in my opinion

[thejadedmonkey]

10 times better looking, I'd actually consider buying one if it looks like that!

[Hudzilla]

Wow, 3 threads about the same picture?!

mods please delete if appropriate

[abrooks]

That is nasty looking! :eek:

[Hudzilla]

That is nasty looking! :eek:

I agree, there is something about the current iPhone that makes it stand out, this just looks like any other phone to me.

[touchman]

Wheres the 3G camera?

[mrowl]

fake.

[zedsdead]

Not sure if I like the asymmetrical look.

Either way, this picture is what most of the recent rumors have suggested. Could be true, or not. We shall see if the Apple attorneys get on this.

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/02/090323-iphone-next-gen-fr.jpg

A French blog (http://www.iphon.fr/post/2008/05/02/iPhone-2-en-photos-Vraies-ou-fausses) posted these photos purporting to be the upcoming 3G-capable iPhone. The appearance roughly matches circulating rumors of a plastic backed iPhone.

The original article claims the photos were sent in from an anonymous source and that they have no idea if they are true or not. Typically "leaked photos" are rarely legitimate.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/02/photo-of-3g-iphone/)

[Eidorian]

Must fight urge to buy one...

When they come out of course. :D

[Chaszmyr]

It matches the description of the supposed 3G iPhone we heard a couple days ago, and it looks real in every way except that it's supposed to be an Apple product...

I call FAKE. It is a huge step backwards in design from the current iPhone, imo... Particularly because it is obviously so incredibly scratch-prone.

[t0mat0]

That back cover looks like it's had lots of use, considering how old it would be...

Why can't it just be a laser etched back of another phone?
Seeing as the SGOLD3H is reported to have the same limitation of screen resolution then it'll have the same ratio of length and width of screen as current iPhone. Simple enough to check that.

130mm across
75mm at 300%
that's a ratio of 1.73 Assuming a bunch of things (e.g. resolution up to edge of display).
iPhone is currently 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi with a ratio of 1.5

Not out enough given my margins of error.

[FullGaz]

Well, the pictures are not of the best quality...
I don't see the legendary front camera either, so either the pics are genuine and the next iPhone won't have Video iChat, or they are fake and we still have to wait and see...
I'm really not enthusiastic about the black back, it looks cheap and not very 'Apple' like...
I don't buy it. But I WILL buy the next gen iPhone!

[iNeko]

Hmm, it looks to have a bigger screen than the original iPhone (well, from that perspective) or it's actually smaller and the hands are smaller than they look too...

I'm not sure if I like it, I think I'd have to get a look at it first hand

[zedsdead]

That back cover looks like it's had lots of use, considering how old it would be...

Why can't it just be a laser etched back of another phone?
Seeing as the SGOLD3H is reported to have the same limitation of screen resolution then it'll have the same ratio of length and width of screen as current iPhone. Simple enough to check that.

130mm across
75mm at 300%
that's a ratio of 1.73 Assuming a bunch of things (e.g. resolution up to edge of display).
iPhone is currently 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi with a ratio of 1.5

Not out enough given my margins of error.

1.73 is close to 1.78, which is 16x9. That would be great if we get a true widescreen ratio on the next iPhone.

[bigmc6000]

I'm thinking with all these leaked photos all being the same thing that probably means it *isn't* going to look like that.

Of course I'm hoping it doesn't look like that as, despite my love for apple products, there's no way in hell I would buy that chunk of ugly plastic (same reason I won't buy a MacBook).

[jtm235711131719]

The Apple logo and the word iPhone look more pixelated than the rest of the phone. Also I don't see the volume buttons. Fake.

[earnjam]

U-G-L-Y, that ain't got no alibi. (unless it's a fake)

[guzhogi]

Looks pretty cool to me, just a little on the small side IMO, though. I like the current size of the iPhone. It fits well in my hand. Plus, videos will be easier to watch on a bigger screen. I wonder if Apple will up the DPI of the screen?

[zedsdead]

The Apple logo and the word iPhone looks more pixelated than the rest of the phone. Also I don't see the volume buttons. Fake.

Good point. Apple really can't drop those buttons...at least they better not, one of my favorite features for the ipod part of the phone.

[aardwolf]

The biggest tell to me of how this isn't a 3G iPhone is how scuffed up the back is. Unless you're really rough on phones, it takes quite a while to get the back of a phone looking like that. Are we supposed to assume whoever got ahold of the phone this early has had it for several months?

[kdarling]

It would look much better in black and gold:

Goldstriker iPhone (http://www.goldstriker.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=178)

[cal6n]

fugly & fake!

[SirOmega]

No sir, I dont like it.

Doesn't look Apple enough. Doesnt have the lines of an Apple product. Reminds me of a LG Voyager phone.

[Buschmaster]

I'm going to call fake, not because it's good looking or ugly. It just looks nothing like a Johnny Ive.

[colinmack]

Doubt it's real - but even if it is, it looks smaller so could be a lower-end cheaper model (there were some rumours about the line being split into 2 or 3 separate products like with iPods)...

So this could be the 'teenager' model, and the pro/business/high-end model could have all that shiny-aluminum-stylish goodness the rest of us want ;)

[Eidorian]

All about the looks and I'm about the hardware...

[bacaramac]

I don't think it looks apple, but I do like it. If real I would be happy to buy it because it would still have the the goodies that make an iPhone an iPhone. Touch screen, interface, etc.

[miketcool]

Would have been nice if the phone was on. But that is always so much harder to photoshop correctly.

[stagi]

fake

[xUKHCx]

I think it looks very good, pulled out my iPhone to compare and it does seem like a progression in the positive direction. Will be pleased if the new iPhone looks like that (not that I will be getting one)

[blindzero]

There's some noticable pixalation/darkening around the logo as well as the front button etc...

Definately photoshopped.

[daveman235]

i dunno man..... that back is pretty scuffed up looking already..... plus the screen looks bigger..... I don't think i buy this rumor!

why must these people put out these fake pictures? Why are you messing with us?

All we want is a sneak peak.... not a fake! Damn you! :mad:

[mac2mac]

Its fake it looks to cheap and its so scratched:confused:

[wiseguy]

First, the home button on the front doesn't have the right angle.
Second, the iPhone typo on the back is too pixelize
Three, the scratches on the back and also a step at the bottom of the phone, probably when they superimpose the back of the real one on top of this picture.

I knew I saw that before, it's the back modified of an LG Chocolate, exactly the same curve

[k2spitfire88]

That is nasty looking! :eek:

I agree, there is something about the current iPhone that makes it stand out, this just looks like any other phone to me.

That looks really bad! I don't like the look of it at all! The current iPhone looks way better! And like someone said, it looks a lot like the LG Voyager, which is bad! Hope it doesnt look like this.

[chr1s60]

Not a fan. It looks more like something Motorola or BlackBerry would release.

[Dagless]

Now I like that. It's a lot more phone-like than the current iPhone.

Will buy. Hopefully with a 2nd camera in the front for video calls.

[Lepton]

I think it's a mockup of the phone, not made of the real materials, but merely accurate in size, shape, and positioning of elements, to help get the feel of it and design cases, etc. I can see Apple giving a few of those out to trusted (oops!) manufacturers.

So strictly looking at the shape of it, that looks nice. A little narrower, a little shorter, nice.

[LiveForever]

If its real Jonny Ive has lost his touch. It looks totally hideous.

If it does really look like this, forget it I won't buy one. call me superficial but the touch screen can't make up for this.

Please no. It looks like any other phone out there only a lot worse.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[metooplease]

Sorry Guys.
This is a photoshopped LG Chocolate KG800.

The shape, curves, the approx size, the back, the look of the plastic including its reflections - even including how scratches look on a worn phone match the LG Chocolate for 100%. You can even see the small silver border in one shot when you look closely.

Do a google image search for "LG Chocolate hand".
http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/799-44f4c2c055746.jpg
Or better search on eBay, where people show their own non-glossy/non-presskit photos.

Even with mediocre photoshop skills one would be able to achieve this in just about 1-3 hours.

[johnnyjibbs]

I agree, there is something about the current iPhone that makes it stand out, this just looks like any other phone to me.

If its real Jonny Ive has lost his touch. It looks totally hideous.

If it does really look like this, forget it I won't buy one. call me superficial but the touch screen can't make up for this.

Please no. It looks like any other phone out there only a lot worse.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


Exactly! I'm calling BS on this. It looks cheap and nasty and un-Apple like. It doesn't look anything like the design that Apple has been going towards (which the iPhone kicked off) and I would be embarrassed if I was Jonathon Ive and I'd have designed that.

It looks hideous. :eek: If it looks like that, I'm going to cry for not picking up one of the 8GB current models with the £100 off promotion!!!! :(

I think it's a mockup of the phone, not made of the real materials, but merely accurate in size, shape, and positioning of elements, to help get the feel of it and design cases, etc. I can see Apple giving a few of those out to trusted (oops!) manufacturers.

So strictly looking at the shape of it, that looks nice. A little narrower, a little shorter, nice.
But the shape looks nasty as well. The MacBook Air may be tapered, but this thing looks so un-Apple like. All of Apple's products have striaght lines and round corners. This doesn't fit at all with that.

[LiveForever]

I hope your'e right. Somebody had a HTC touch at my work and I could get one now but I just couldn't live with its industrial design.

Not many companies REALLY understand industrial design and thank god apple does. LG, Samsung certainly don't (they put curves on the side and think that's it). Nokia and Motorolla aren't bad but apple is the absolute pinnicle. Take it from me, ID departments the world over have apple products all over there studio walls and wish they worked for apple.

The current iphone is perfection and anything less than this won't do now, for me anyway.

[studiomusic]

First, the home button on the front doesn't have the right angle.
Second, the iPhone typo on the back is too pixelize
Three, the scratches on the back and also a step at the bottom of the phone, probably when they superimpose the back of the real one on top of this picture.

I knew I saw that before, it's the back modified of an LG Chocolate, exactly the same curve

Plus the line about half way down the side in both pictures.

[syklee26]

doesn't all Apple items have engraved serial numbers and trademarks and stuff on the back?

the photo seems to be missing this...

[LiveForever]

IF it is real we will know in a few days (if not sooner) when apple demand that the photos are taken down.

I don't think the apple legal guys will have their weekend ruined for this somehow.. We will wait and see.

[iStefmac]

v.1 = Aluminum

v.2 photos = plastic?






1 + 2 = FAKE

[rockstarjoe]

I think the worst part of the image is the Apple logo itself. First of all as mentioned earlier it is more pixelated than the rest of the photo. Second of all it seems to be level while the phone is being held at an angle. To see what I mean, check this out. I grabbed an image of the back of the iphone and inverted the colors, then laid it on top of this image.

[johnnyjibbs]

The more I look at it, the more I think it's just some other crappy phone with the iPhone buttons and logos Photoshopped onto it. I'm certainly praying that that is the case! Plus the screen looks matte, not glossy and the plastic looks like nasty bakerlite or something! Prizes for the first person to find out what phone that is...


I think the worst part of the image is the Apple logo itself. First of all as mentioned earlier it is more pixelated than the rest of the photo. Second of all it seems to be level while the phone is being held at an angle. To see what I mean, check this out. I grabbed an image of the back of the iphone and inverted the colors, then laid it on top of this image.
and I think you've just proved it! Brilliant!

[bretm]

That back cover looks like it's had lots of use, considering how old it would be...

Why can't it just be a laser etched back of another phone?
Seeing as the SGOLD3H is reported to have the same limitation of screen resolution then it'll have the same ratio of length and width of screen as current iPhone. Simple enough to check that.

130mm across
75mm at 300%
that's a ratio of 1.73 Assuming a bunch of things (e.g. resolution up to edge of display).
iPhone is currently 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi with a ratio of 1.5

Not out enough given my margins of error.

Well that would just be awesome! If you look, the top earpiece area and home button area are thinner, meaning the screen is wider given the same phone size. And your 1.73 is pretty close to 16:9 screen proportions which are 1.778. The old 1.5 aspect was a total butt - f... of a screw up. Doesn't match any video resolution whatsoever.

So I don't know what people dont' like about it. Screen, bigger and 16:9. Phone stays same size. Adds 3G. Non scratch easy silver back. Less chrome.

[crees!]

Sorry Guys.
This is a photoshopped LG Chocolate KG800.
Or Zune :D:eek:

[ttopp]

i think its fake..

the reason for it is the size has changed the pic is the same size as a viewity fi LG my iphone is bigger or the guy in the photo has MASSIVE hands

[mcorange]

No, a 3G iPhone will most certainly have a front-sided camera. ALL 3G phones do and Apple isn't going to fail on that.

[johnnyjibbs]

i think its fake..

the reason for it is the size has changed the pic is the same size as a viewity fi LG my iphone is bigger or the guy in the photo has MASSIVE hands
Actually, good point. It's way too small. It's blatantly an old mobile phone that someone has shoved Apple logos onto.

[Hard-Hat-Mac]

I was wondering... do you think Apple will make the camera rotating camera? Similar to the LG, but Applfied?

http://www.lifewithlg.com/lg-phones/AT&T/CU500v

[thefunkymunky]

The front-mounted camera on the new iPhone will be behind the touch screen. You heard it hear first. ;)

[born4sky]

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q312/iScion_photos/iphone.jpg?t=1209740648

http://www.iphon.fr/public/2008/Q2/iphone-2-photo-1.jpg

Quick one min job, I guess it's fake, but you never know.

BTW about front camera, if it will be there I think it will be probably not visible, under the glass the same way as you can see you proximity sensor, camera will be hidden this way. Just because everybody else have it this way and apple must have something different...

[g8bo]

a metal frame (as the current iphone has) would be nice, gives more contrast!

it's most likely just a fake and the back doesn't look as solid as it will be^^ plastic is the wrong material for apple...

[bmcgrath]

That phone looks rubbish compared to the current iPhone! I know for sure I wouldn't buy that one even if it is 3G!

[Eduardo1971]

Umm, kinda diggin' it (it is in fact, a legit iPhone v2.0).

Not as bulky and slimmer-the plastic is kinda also growing on me.

[BigD58]

Come on! it has to be fake i have owned apple products all my life and have never seen something this ugly. Come on its fake dont worry.

[ThinkGeek]

I think that this is an iPhone nano, not the real 3G iPhone. Coz Apple stated that they are gonna split the iPhone into three models rite?

[QCassidy352]

I could see apple making that. I think it's too generic, but it does have the rounded edges and sleek look they've been going for lately.

[kontheur]

http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/600/landmark_600.jpg

[G58]

Fake

Apple would never build anything as ugly and cheap as this. It's clearly a well worn, cheap plastic thing that could have been made by any 'me too' copycat maker. I'm not even convinced it's even a phone though.

Steve said: "Aluminum and glass." If it ain't got aluminum and glass, it ain't a real Apple product.

As to whether it's a spoiler FROM Apple... the jury's out imo.


So Engadget is reporting (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/02/next-gen-iphone-spotted-in-the-wild/) that the French blog, iPhon.fr recieved two pictures of a new iPhone, its all black and its shape seems to match what the latest rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/30/iphone-accessory-makers-detail-3g-iphone-design/) have been saying.

Thing is, I find it rather horrendous.

Link to the engadget story: http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/02/next-gen-iphone-spotted-in-the-wild/

Original (translated from French) iPhon.fr story: http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iphon.fr%2F&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

What do you guys think? Real or Fake?

[kornyboy]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

Engadget are showing a picture that is allegedly the next gen iphone.

Ill let you decide, but if true its dissapoiting in my opinion

I agree. Very disappointing if true. Not to mention that asthetically I think the current iPhone looks better.

[slicecom]

It's clearly a photoshopped LG Vu, and a poorly done photoshop at that.

[G4R2]

The comments on this thread remind me of those made when the pics of the iPod Nano were released, a product that went from condemnation on the web as being unfashionably and fugly to praise when it actually was released.

I'm not saying that this is the final product for the 2nd gen 3g iPhone, that it's not a mock up, or that it's not even digitally enhanced. It's just not clear one way or another what it is or what has or has not been done to this photo. It's not even clear that the device is ugly or not until it is actually released.

Also, regarding the back side- The prototypes for the iPhone had a plastic screen which Apple replaced during development with glass in order to prevent scratching. If it is an actual Apple product and given its history of both experiencing and replacing scratchable surfaces, I'm sure that Apple would probably take this into account in a final product.

My conclusion with this photo is that I can't draw a conclusion or form an opinion about a device that hasn't even been released. We'll know for sure next month if Apple really does intend to release a 3 g iPhone and what it will look like.

[coolfactor]

This would go directly against Apple's mission to be environmentally-sensitive. They prefer to use quality materials such as metal and glass. That's what makes their products feel more solid and also last longer. A plastic iPhone... that would be very disappointing to me, and would only strike me as a desperate move to get the phone adopted as much as possible.

Apple, keep your high values, and don't release a cheap, plastic phone.

[G58]

Nice try.

And I can't see the joins, but pixel for pixel, the corners are identical. That just doesn't happen unless the same photographic image source is used for both final images.

Might happen if the thing was being 100% 're-engineered' in CGI using all the same values, but unlikely to be genuine.



http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/600/landmark_600.jpg

[G58]

"a desperate move to get the phone adopted as much as possible."??

Huh? Is there anything about Apple's design or sales strategy that strikes you as desperate?

They famously release what the market often generally regards as under equipped [all be it actually very advanced] first generation products, exceed sales expectations every time, and then wait as long as they possibly can before releasing new versions.

They'd lose every core buyer if they released this pile of *****.

Worry not pilgrim, all will be revealed in good time.


This would go directly against Apple's mission to be environmentally-sensitive. They prefer to use quality materials such as metal and glass. That's what makes their products feel more solid and also last longer. A plastic iPhone... that would be very disappointing to me, and would only strike me as a desperate move to get the phone adopted as much as possible.

Apple, keep your high values, and don't release a cheap, plastic phone.

[fabian9]

haven't read the entire thread yet but if it looks like this, I'll be in the market for the old iPhone rather than the new one, because this one is just fugly!

Secondly, it seems to me like the screen isn't aligned with the edge properly... it's not parallel! Or is that just me..

look like a bad photoshop to me.

[Sky Blue]

Coz Apple stated that they are gonna split the iPhone into three models rite?

nope

[johnnyjibbs]

Umm, kinda diggin' it (it is in fact, a legit iPhone v2.0).

Not as bulky and slimmer-the plastic is kinda also growing on me.
Um, with respect, on what grounds is it a legit iPhone? There are so many good reasons on this thread as to why it is obviously a fake. And it looks too old-fashioned to grow on me.

I could see apple making that. I think it's too generic, but it does have the rounded edges and sleek look they've been going for lately.
It looks nothing like Apple's design aesthetic. Not to mention it looks like a cheap phone from a few years ago with a large screen and Apple logos shoved on it.

Nice try.

And I can't see the joins, but pixel for pixel, the corners are identical. That just doesn't happen unless the same photographic image source is used for both final images.

Might happen if the thing was being 100% 're-engineered' in CGI using all the same values, but unlikely to be genuine.
I don't think he was trying to pretend it was true. It's a pretty good effort though - I like it! :cool:

[Xavier]

that looks like a FAKE

[jmooring]

A Photoshop job to be sure (just check out proportions of the Apple logo) but even if the execution were better, Ive and his team would never release something so pedestrian. Can't imagine Steve getting too excited about this. Quite the reverse. He'd probably sack anyone who brought in a prototype like that.

I believe (and hope) we'll get a somewhat streamlined version of the current minimalist design. Nothing fussy at all.

[JoshHawn]

I think it looks like a photoshop-ed Samsung Blackjack.

http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/4/samsung-blackjack-468.jpghttp://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/02/090323-iphone-next-gen-fr.jpg

[studiomusic]

This one has the same line half way down the side... in between the pinky and ring finger.
http://www.mobilport.hu/files/image_5/size_460/21819.jpg

Eh, maybe not.
Naaaa. Too big.

[Telp]

It's not that bad looking, however, i would call fake on this one. We'll find out in a months time.

[Applepi]

I'm hoping that's fake, I don't want a murdered-out iPhone.

[Brianstorm91]

Yey I like scratches.

[EagerDragon]

Fake - bottom left of the screen shows some incusion of the screen color into the area of the black case, like a touchup that went too far.

regardless of fake or not, above the iPhone word in the back looks like a screw or something metallic that was partially edited out, the words below iPhone are blurred as expected but then there is a second circular object that was also blurred out, like a second screw or something.

[jacobhb]

I am a bit surprised that no one is seeing the obvious... Look at the bottom where the flash lets alot of light in (Edit: the right image). You can clearly see the line of where the aluminum back stops and where the plastic on the current iPhone begins.

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/02/090323-iphone-next-gen-fr.jpg

I will post the picture tonight when I get home from work.

[stevearm]

No, a 3G iPhone will most certainly have a front-sided camera. ALL 3G phones do and Apple isn't going to fail on that.

You mean like they failed to put MMS when every other phone in the world had it?

[mac 2005]

Particularly because it is obviously so incredibly scratch-prone.

As opposed to every other similar Apple product? :rolleyes:

Personally, I want an iPhone that doesn't scream "iPhone." As a Mac user for the past 20 years, I'm sick of the posers who think they're cool because they have an iPhone.

[TitoC]

Total Photoshop. Yes, the Apple logo is pixelated, the home button is not level with the screen , etc. as well as other factors. But what stood out to me was just plain bad retouching work with the hand. Look at the lower part of the hand . . . in the original left picture, they Photoshopped part of the phone out, so it it looks like the phone is half as think on one side compared to the other. The shadow on that phone should not be as dark or as sharp as it looks. The reflection on the phone in the right photo also does not look real. And if you look at both of these images, they appear to be of different thickness. As Elaine from Seinfeld would say, "Fake . . . Fake . . . Fake."

http://liquidoak.com/clients/macrumors/iphone_fake.jpg

[Robbadore64]

If only these pics were taken inside an elevator I might bite :)

I must be really bored at work today if I read all these posts when this thing is so obviously a fake. Couldn't be more fake if Bill Gates was holding the thing.

Seriously though, good job guys picking this thing apart.

[tothelimit]

looks like a photoshop job on the LG Vu

example:

[jtm235711131719]

You mean like they failed to put MMS when every other phone in the world had it?

What is with this MMS thing? Are we loving backward technology that much? :confused:

[xUKHCx]

What is with this MMS thing? Are we loving backward technology that much? :confused:

broken record but it is free and automatically setup on phones where as receiving emails is not free and requires setup. Why are people so against MMS, is it because apple told them that it is not needed because it really is, how does it affect you if it is included and you don't use it.

In reference to the nay sayers about this picture specifically because it is scratched we all know the original iPhone saw widespread testing before release and was even refined because of it. Therefore is it that much of a strectch to say that this picture phone has been subject to months of testing and is scratched because of it.

Probably not real but I still like the design.

[earnjam]

broken record but it is free and automatically setup on phones where as receiving emails is not free and requires setup. Why are people so against MMS, is it because apple told them that it is not needed because it really is, how does it affect you if it is included and you don't use it.

It isn't "needed". I have never once in my entire life sent an MMS.

[michaelsviews]

Gosh I hope its not real, if it is , apple lost my two iPhone purchases for sure, not that it would hurt them at all.

Thats one FUGLY looking imitation iPhone

[earnjam]

Gosh I hope its not real, if it is , apple lost my two iPhone purchases for sure, not that it would hurt them at all.

Thats one FUGLY looking imitation iPhone

It would if a lot of people think like you.

I wouldn't worry though. What from the current line of Apple Products looks bad from a design standpoint? Nothing IMO, so I would bet the new iPhone will look nice too.

[xUKHCx]

It isn't "needed". I have never once in my entire life sent an MMS.

:rolleyes: you != everyone in the world

[earnjam]

:rolleyes: you != everyone in the world

True.

I agree that it is something they should have included, since it seems like something pretty standard on most phones these days. (There has to be a good reason other than they just didn't want to...)

I'm just saying that I've never used it, so it isn't "needed". A numeric keypad is needed on a phone. An earpiece and microphone are needed. But something adds extra functionality that not everyone uses isn't necessarily "needed".

(Part of the reason I've never used it is the fact that I have an iPhone, but I never used it before that either.)

[jtm235711131719]

As opposed to every other similar Apple product? :rolleyes:

Personally, I want an iPhone that doesn't scream "iPhone." As a Mac user for the past 20 years, I'm sick of the posers who think they're cool because they have an iPhone.

Did the iPhone scream iPhone before we first saw it? Not according to the myriads of mockups that completely missed the mark. Like a good movie ending or a novel, each new Apple product keeps us on our collective seats' edge. It's like Moore's law, except applied to design and function. I don't mind mass-acceptance of Apple products and the true poseurs will quickly move on to the next shiny toy because they will not or cannot appreciate the nuance.

[jlanuez]

This is probably a solid plastic mockup, so case manufactures can get started - nothing more.

[xUKHCx]

True.

I agree that it is something they should have included, since it seems like something pretty standard on most phones these days. (There has to be a good reason other than they just didn't want to...)

I'm just saying that I've never used it, so it isn't "needed".
(Part of the reason for that is the fact that I have an iPhone, but I never used it before that either. )

European market is quite different to the American market MMS are used very frequently over here and have been for a long time. If this almost standard feature (I don't know of a phone in the last 3 years that hasn't supported MMS except the iPhone in the UK) isn't in the phone then it is major point. For example someone actually laughed that my phone couldn;t do MMS. Also there are loads of people who are using SwirleyMMS to get around it. There is no logical/technical reason for apple to not include it.

how does it affect you if it is included and you don't use it.

I have never used exchange support or stocks so why is this included, because it benefits some. MMS will benefit lots of people and so it is rather confusing as to why it wasn't included.

I wasn't going to buy an iPhone until it supported MMS (I got given one in the end)

[jtm235711131719]

broken record but it is free and automatically setup on phones where as receiving emails is not free and requires setup. Why are people so against MMS, is it because apple told them that it is not needed because it really is, how does it affect you if it is included and you don't use it.

In reference to the nay sayers about this picture specifically because it is scratched we all know the original iPhone saw widespread testing before release and was even refined because of it. Therefore is it that much of a strectch to say that this picture phone has been subject to months of testing and is scratched because of it.

Probably not real but I still like the design.

I am against it because it is yet another way for the wireless companies to premium charge for what should be priced as a commodity. AT&T charges $0.30 per MMS.

See this article.http://equityprivate.typepad.com/ep/2008/04/the-five-circle.html

By not including it, perhaps Apple is forcing the issue, I don't know.

[Willis]

Fake.. its all scratched on the back!

even if it was to look like that, still wouldnt buy one. I like the aluminum back cover.

[JBaker122586]

broken record but it is free and automatically setup on phones where as receiving emails is not free and requires setup.

Uh... what?
MMS plans cost money.
And receiving emails IS free. :confused:

[xUKHCx]

I am against it because it is yet another way for the wireless companies to premium charge for what should be priced as a commodity. AT&T charges $0.30 per MMS.

See this article.http://equityprivate.typepad.com/ep/2008/04/the-five-circle.html

By not including it, perhaps Apple is forcing the issue, I don't know.

Again UK market is very different. I don't pay a premium for sending an MMS and those that are it is part of their free limit usually in the region of 1 MMS = 4 SMS. But still this arguemnt isn't really an argument as to why not including it.

Fake.. its all scratched on the back!

even if it was to look like that, still wouldnt buy one. I like the aluminum back cover.

As I said it is conceivable that this phone has been testing for quite some time and is scratched.

Uh... what?
MMS plans cost money.
And receiving emails IS free. :confused:

Data rates on phones means it is not free to receive (and requires setup on the phone) where as it is free to receive MMS.

Again UK market is different to the US. MMS (plans) are either free or very cheap as it is usually s scalar on SMS rates.

[earnjam]

You make good points xUKHCx. I definitely agree it's something they should have included.

I was simply saying not everyone would need it, but you're right. Not everyone needs exchange support. Hell, I never use the stocks app. So much so that I relegated it to a screen by itself!

[DeuceDeuce]

ALL black is SEXY!!! I want an all black iPhone :D

[mikes63737]

Fake. The perspective of the Apple logo is off a bit. It's like the left side of the logo is engraved deeper than the other side. Plus, it's just not Apple-like because the top looks more round than the bottom.

[Zwhaler]

I agree, there is something about the current iPhone that makes it stand out, this just looks like any other phone to me.

Idk, I just hope the next iPhone keeps the chrome rim. That's my favorite part of the design really. Other than the screen, of course.

[termite]

Has anyone pointed out it's an absurd fake yet? Because it is.

[earnjam]

Has anyone pointed out it's an absurd fake yet? Because it is.

Yes, 5 pages worth...

[Robbadore64]

Within this May/June/July timeframe three cosmic events in my world coincide:

1) iPhone w/ 3G
2) US Gov Stimulus
3) Sprint contract ends

hmmmmmm

If the rumors have some basis in truth as to how the new iPhone's appearance will be I doubt I'll be disappointed. Just like those Nano rumors/mockups, they looked sorta fugly. Then the REAL Nanos came out and looked a little better viewing them online. Then I played with one and thought it was pretty slick.

[Full of Win]

The front shot look OK, but the back, with a thin line under the 'iPhone' name gives it all away. The change in contrast says fake.

[earnjam]

hahaha, Robbadore64...love the title...

"I really doubt the "new iPhone" will be anything like "New Coke""

[muldul]

I hope it is fake, that is a terrible desgin

[drewhp89]

if you asked me, it looks eerily familiar to the blackberry's current design, just extended and having "iPhone" photoshopped in...

[igglepuff]

as been pointed out its fake, and not a very good job. if you zoom in on teh back you can clearly see where the apple was cut out (square, ontop fo tha tlul) of another picture. not sure form what, could be a real iphone that had levels adjusted or somethign else, but you acn clearly see where teh black of the vu and the apple square meet, all around. you can also see the blending on the front from teh button area and the real vu bottom part. its not a fake, its a pretty bad fake:P

[Benjamindaines]

Looks like a shopped Blackberry Pearl. Fake.

[true777]

It's so obviously fake and non-Apple I don't know why we are even discussing it. Looks like some random Prada phone or the like with the Apple logo slapped on it.

[jtm235711131719]

The front shot look OK, but the back, with a thin line under the 'iPhone' name gives it all away. The change in contrast says fake.

I think the thin line is supposed to be "Designed by Apple in cali . . .". I noticed that your sig line is pretty thin too.

[Bdx33]

ugly, it looks horrible!

[AutumnSkyline]

For all of you calling BS because of the scratches on the back, Let me show you my ipod after four months. Let me tell you, it looks exactly the same as it did at four weeks. My iPod did nothing but rest in its case for the first 4 weeks of his glorious life.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/Antaries/Photo28.jpg

It is scratched up and down the back.

I call BS too, just not for the same reasons.

[MacNut]

I like it, the shiny back is to hard to keep looking clean. My iPod was scratched within hours. I think the all black looks nicer.

[camarobh]

Fake.

[stevearm]

True.

I agree that it is something they should have included, since it seems like something pretty standard on most phones these days. (There has to be a good reason other than they just didn't want to...)


ALL phones these days, and for the past few years.

ALL the latest phones have MMS built in, except the iPhone.

[kymac]

its been said multiple times here already.. its an altered image of the lg vu.. but people still keep trying to think they know what it is :confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3mJbho7lnI

[puckhead193]

i'm not a fan.... it looks just a black rectangular box if they were real apple legal would have been all over it already...apple is probably laughing at us right now

[gceo]

Step One: Get pic of LG Vu + Photoshop
Step Two: .....
Step Three: Profit



That French blog must have a ton of theoretical dollars....

[mojohanna]

fake.

Oh for christ's sake.

[Zwhaler]

I like it, but I vote altered Vu.

[ntrigue]

That being said. It does have the tapered edges that iLounge has obtained from third-party case manufacturers.

It is however, a fake as anyone that has zoomed to pixel level can see. Furthermore, they omitted the serial no/IMEI below iPhone.

This design would replace mine on day one.

[SkippyThorson]

It would look much better in black and gold:

Goldstriker iPhone (http://www.goldstriker.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=178)

Medontwants tacky Goldmember phone. Too bling-y.

Oh for christ's sake.

lol :p Short, sweet, and to the for-the-love-of-god point.

[mathiasparks]

If it was not plastic and it was scratch proof then I would really like this design. Maybe something like metalic black back...whatever just not plastic

[needthephone]

Why so many threads on this.

The comparison photos show its just like the LG VU/Chocolate/Voyager or whatever.

It has the same profile curves and is remarkably similar, if not the same phone but photo shopped.

SO, do you honestly think apple with probably the most revered Industrial Design department in the World, headed by multi award winning, acclaimed, plaudited and god like genius Jonny Ive, would choose a current L G phone as the basis for the much hyped and anticipated 3G iphone???? I really don't think so.Think of the bragging rights, not to mention possible design infringment case, this would give LG. Apple copy our beautiful design for their blatant rip off which is the 3g Iphone 2.

NO NO NO, people get real. This is just stupid. What has macrumors become, I like a good rumour as much as the next man but to carry on this charade is idiotic.

[twoodcc]

i doubt they are real, but you never know...

[needthephone]

As someone said this french blog is probably making a lot of money from this so there is method in their madness,

Iv'e not been to the site but I bet its plastered in Google adsense links.

If this is the real iphone I will not buy one and probably never buy another apple product again. I would rather a Zune.

Incredible the appetite for iphone 2 rumours that this O B V I O U S hoax has been given so much coverage.

[bpa1093]

Apple would never take a step in the wrong direction and say, "Hmm. Let's make it look more like a blackberry." That being said, people also said "Apple will NEVER call their new notebook 'macbook air'". So I really don't know. The only thing I do know is that the real 3G iphone will completely blow us away, just like the first one did!

[sjw]

I like that the screen dimensions relative to the size of the phone are larger in this 'mock-up' - but I'm 99% sure it's fake and would have an easier time believing it was a prototype design for the original (that would explain why it looks so darn beat up).

It just doesn't look like an Apple product to me, it's completely lacking the typical finesse we expect from their designs.. It's too boxy and generic looking.

[achtung!]

It just doesn't look like an Apple product to me, it's completely lacking the typical finesse we expect from their designs.. It's too boxy and generic looking.

indeed. fake. period. move on.

[csweatt]

The original iPhone design with the brush aluminum backing is definitely my favorite. It is totally unique and matches the "apple" format.

Please Steve - alter only slightly!!

[kloppenator]

acutally, i believe any claim that apple will use plastic is fake, as El Jobso promised the world:

Apple plans to completely eliminate the use of polyvinyl chloride (PVC) and brominated flame retardants (BFRs) in its products, and arsenic in the glass of flat-panel displays by the end of 2008.
source: http://www.apple.com/environment

umm... folks, this is 2008. PVC is by far the most durable of the plastics used in electronics and in plumbing even, and i believe apple will stay away from all plastic from an environmental standpoint. thats only my opinion though...

this also tells us that the macbook case will need to be redone, but thats a different thread all together/

[Niiro13]

I like the current iPhone design =(. Even the idea of glossy black backing (not necessarily this pic) sounds ugly.

[LTtrack]

I already own an iPhone and it says in the March 6 event video that the 2.0 software update will be shipped in June. Does that mean I'll get a cool new phone or just an another update on my computer?

[k2spitfire88]

I already own an iPhone and it says in the March 6 event video that the 2.0 software update will be shipped in June. Does that mean I'll get a cool new phone or just an another update on my computer?

It's just a software update, hence, it will be on your computer. Way too expensive to give out new phones, and not really smart for apple either.

[CountPollen]

Looks lika an HTC phone to me…

[Skibsted]

Guys, look at the apple logo on the back side of the phone. It just doesn't look right. I'm pretty sure this is photoshopped!

[batchtaster]

I already own an iPhone and it says in the March 6 event video that the 2.0 software update will be shipped in June. Does that mean I'll get a cool new phone or just an another update on my computer?
It's just a software update, hence, it will be on your computer.

... for which you will pay money. Like the iPod touch apps package. However, to clarify, the software update will be delivered via iTunes, not via the iPhone itself.

You bought your phone, you own it. They don't take back your old MacBook Pro when they release a new one, why on earth would they take back your phone? You want a new generation iPhone? You're going to have to palm the old one off on someone else, ditch it, or hang onto it as a spare. Just like your computer.

P.S. Fake. And ugly. And very cheap looking. Screen looks more like plastic than glass, although that could just be the swirling/scratches. Apple is far better than this.

[iHarry]

A Photoshop... and a BAD ONE too...

They didn't even bother to put in the effort to align the apple logo right and "clean" the "iPhone" logo.

I bet J. Ive laughs his arse off:D

That, plus given the fact that Steve is THE most demanding SOB in existence AND an industrial design MANIAC he would have kill Ive on the spot for such a plain, non - industrial design like that.

More over, in case you didn't notice apple follows a specific brand marketing of "greener" products. LED mercury free screens, aluminum, glass and generally, the "greener" your products are the better you can market them.

Don't worry it's just the usual before launch mock-ups that go around until apple once more kicks some serious butt...
:apple::apple::apple:

[k2spitfire88]

... for which you will pay money. Like the iPod touch apps package. However, to clarify, the software update will be delivered via iTunes, not via the iPhone itself.

You bought your phone, you own it. They don't take back your old MacBook Pro when they release a new one, why on earth would they take back your phone? You want a new generation iPhone? You're going to have to palm the old one off on someone else, ditch it, or hang onto it as a spare. Just like your computer.

P.S. Fake. And ugly. And very cheap looking. Screen looks more like plastic than glass, although that could just be the swirling/scratches. Apple is far better than this.

Steve Jobs said at Macworld '08 that the iPod Touch apps upgrade is $20, but the iPhone upgrade is free.

[mongoos150]

If its real Jonny Ive has lost his touch. It looks totally hideous.


Completely disagree. It looks beautiful.

[DMann]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2008/05/02/090323-iphone-next-gen-fr.jpg

A French blog (http://www.iphon.fr/post/2008/05/02/iPhone-2-en-photos-Vraies-ou-fausses) posted these photos purporting to be the upcoming 3G-capable iPhone. The appearance roughly matches circulating rumors of a plastic backed iPhone.

The original article claims the photos were sent in from an anonymous source and that they have no idea if they are true or not. Typically "leaked photos" are rarely legitimate.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/02/photo-of-3g-iphone/)

Amateur mock-up, at best. No chrome volume buttons, Apple logo and name are more pixelated than phone itself - looks like a paste job, rainbow highlights reveal a plastic front instead of glass - J Ive would not allow the iPhone design to be so cheap looking.

[LiveForever]

Apple plans to completely eliminate the use of polyvinyl chloride (PVC) and brominated flame retardants (BFRs) in its products, and arsenic in the glass of flat-panel displays by the end of 2008.

No big deal all manufacturers HAVE to do this as there are new ROHS guidelines for Europe which restrict what materials you can use. They aren't being proactive here, its a compliance thing.

http://www.rohs.gov.uk/

[kontheur]

http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/600/iphone_air.jpg

[k2spitfire88]

http://www.frankreinders.nl/foto/600/iphone_air.jpg

Why would they???????? And it's way too tapered IMHO.

[iStefmac]

This reminds me of the 100001 comments from people who laughed at the idea of the "MacBook Air" and said NOPEZ< FAKEZ < NEVERZ GONZA HAPPENZ.


Well it did. This might too.

[Headhunter26]

It actually looks alot like what I have seen about the new Blackberry that is to be released in August. Their response to the iPhone/Voyager. I agree, that this verison looks fake esp. b\c no buttons on the side for volume. Apple has always managed to keep a general format with their products, a radical change like this doesnt seem right esp. on a second version....

[Consultant]

That is just picture of the LG VU, resized, and POORLY PHOTOSHOPPED.

With all the iPhone wannabe touchscreen phones being released, I won't be surprised if we see more of these fakes.

[dawnraid]

hi i just submitted this, I dont know what it is.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=481144