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MacRumors
May 12, 2008, 03:28 PM
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The Mac web has been flooded today with news stories from prominent (http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/288772137/apple-updates-macbook-pros-adds-multitouch-trackpad) blog (http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/12/macbook-pros-grow-up-multi-touch-250gig-hard-drive-etc/) publications (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/12/updated-macbook-pro-gets-touchy) regarding updated MacBook Pros.
The problem is that Apple did not in fact update the MacBook Pro today. Today's MacBook Pros are the same as the ones released February 26th, 2008 (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/26/apple-releases-penryn-based-macbook-pros-with-multitouch/).
Note: Not all outside links above may work, as the stories have been pulled in most cases.
Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/12/no-new-macbook-pros-today/)
longofest
May 12, 2008, 03:30 PM
The story is not necessarily that there isn't new MacBook Pros, but that everyone and their mother was writing stories saying there was, but there wasn't.
Was very confusing getting all the submissions about it :confused:
Tallest Skil
May 12, 2008, 03:31 PM
Well... yeah. It's Monday, not Tuesday. Having said that, they're not coming tomorrow, either.
Sky Blue
May 12, 2008, 03:31 PM
That's ... weird. Why did sites think they had been updated?
kornyboy
May 12, 2008, 03:36 PM
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)
Is it time for another update? If so, that seems awfully quick.
WildCowboy
May 12, 2008, 03:39 PM
My guess: some people were fooled by the 2.6 GHz MacBook (likely) typo (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/11/leak-or-typo-2-6ghz-macbooks/) and got a bit confused. They also noticed the MBP ad advertising 2.6 GHz and multi-touch without realizing that it's nothing new. In the heat of their excitement, Apple's MBP and store pages of course confirmed all of it (as they have since February), so the confused folks started posting about it. Other sites picked up on it without thinking, and boom: viral misinformation.
Jacquesass
May 12, 2008, 03:53 PM
After waiting and waiting and waiting for new MBP's earlier this year (and checking multiple forum thread incessantly), I vote that this thread become a permanent fixture on the forums.
Make it a sticky - and for all the people waiting impatiently for the next-gen MBP's, they have to post to this thread once a day.
bige
May 12, 2008, 03:59 PM
One of the links points to the UK Apple Site was Apple's site updated for the UK just today.?.?.
Does not sound Appleish to me!
People just don't catch on very fast i guess. lol
Zwhaler
May 12, 2008, 04:38 PM
Strange little page 2 story.
Zadillo
May 12, 2008, 04:53 PM
It was odd though; I'm not sure where it originated, but the first place I saw it was Gizmodo, and it was definitely bizarre....... since it treated it as "news" that the MBP's now had multitouch, and mentioned a 16" model.
Gizmodo didn't say the story came from anywhere else, which makes me think they are the originator of it. As near as I can figure, it was just some accidental posting of an old story or something like that.
Eidorian
May 12, 2008, 04:56 PM
My guess: some people were fooled by the 2.6 GHz MacBook (likely) typo (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/11/leak-or-typo-2-6ghz-macbooks/) and got a bit confused.I'm enjoying it though. Can't they check a little more before committing to a story? :rolleyes:
It was odd though; I'm not sure where it originated, but the first place I saw it was Gizmodo, and it was definitely bizarre....... since it treated it as "news" that the MBP's now had multitouch, and mentioned a 16" model.
Gizmodo didn't say the story came from anywhere else, which makes me think they are the originator of it. As near as I can figure, it was just some accidental posting of an old story or something like that.Nice to see you back Zadillo. ;)
EagerDragon
May 12, 2008, 05:05 PM
Not sure what everyone is expecting, the MBP and MB were just recently updated, if anything a sly bump is about all you should expect this year.
Now next year Feb or March that is a different story, expect major design and Nehalem chip. But not this year.
Zadillo
May 12, 2008, 05:16 PM
Not sure what everyone is expecting, the MBP and MB were just recently updated, if anything a sly bump is about all you should expect this year.
Now next year Feb or March that is a different story, expect major design and Nehalem chip. But not this year.
I don't think anyone was expecting anything; it's what made these false "MacBook Pro Updated" stories showing up on Gizmodo, etc. seem really odd.
keenan wolf
May 12, 2008, 06:00 PM
Well... yeah. It's Monday, not Tuesday. Having said that, they're not coming tomorrow, either.
i want someone to tell me of a time apple updated on a monday
Eidorian
May 12, 2008, 06:02 PM
i want someone to tell me of a time apple updated on a mondayYou're digging your own grave. (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/28/apple-releases-new-imacs/)
RedTomato
May 12, 2008, 06:12 PM
In other major news, I didn't win a million pounds today.
ckurowic
May 12, 2008, 06:26 PM
OMG no new MBP's? *THROWS CURRENT MBP AGAINST THE WALL THEN BURNS THE REMAINS, sits down and sucks thumb*
Yeah, get over it.
twoodcc
May 12, 2008, 06:28 PM
that's weird. i wonder if that means that they'll be updated tomorrow then? i highly doubt it
Neutral Gamer
May 12, 2008, 06:32 PM
OMG no new MBP's? *THROWS CURRENT MBP AGAINST THE WALL THEN BURNS THE REMAINS, sits down and sucks thumb*
Haha. Brilliant. :D
I'm scared to ask, but what would your reaction have been if there HAD been new MBP updates? :eek:
wilburpan
May 12, 2008, 07:02 PM
Note: Not all outside links above may work, as the stories have been pulled in most cases.
I hope I'm not alone in thinking that this is the lamest part of this story. If you make a mistake, man up, admit it, and post a correction.
Don't pull the story, unless your name is Josef Stalin.
RedTomato
May 12, 2008, 07:03 PM
i dont' get it
Exactly. There is nothing to get.
You got it.
macfan881
May 12, 2008, 07:06 PM
didnt they just came out with new macbook pros like 3 months ago?
Moonlight
May 12, 2008, 07:28 PM
The news (internet, TV, paper) is broken....
Long live the news !!!!
Neutral Gamer
May 12, 2008, 08:16 PM
i dont' get it
Exactly. There is nothing to get.
You got it.
I think I need to go to bed cos at the moment it feels like I'm watching an episode of South Park. (Either that or I've actually fallen asleep and this whole thread is some kind of surreal dream I'm having.)
Stan: Don't you see, Kyle?? I don't get it! [smiles, then walks up to Token] Token, I get it now. I don't get it. I've been trying to say that I understand how you feel, but, I'll never understand. I'll never really get how it feels for a black person to have somebody use the N word. I don't get it.
Token: Now you get it, Stan. [smiles]
Stan: [smiles] Yeah. I totally don't get it.
Token: Thanks, dude.
:D
The news (internet, TV, paper) is broken....
Long live the news !!!!
You know what they say: No news is good news. Although in this case ... ;)
jonswan
May 12, 2008, 09:41 PM
Nobody in their right minds expected there to be new MBPs today. Take a look at the website for example - newly released iMacs advertised from last week = why would they give up that space to MBPs so soon after? Duh. Time wasting. And even Apple aren't dumb enough to update things every 2 months.
MacBookProJoe
May 12, 2008, 09:45 PM
Well hell, I love my MBP. They can wait until next year for all I care.......
Eidorian
May 12, 2008, 10:29 PM
Slim chance Apple might try to put the uprated Santa Rosa in and get some wacky 0.5 multipliers processors for new "faster" MacBook (Pro).
ohbrilliance
May 13, 2008, 01:41 AM
The title reminds me of a story my friend told me a few years ago. He was in Indonesia at a time that the press was less liberated. Journalists managed to get events by the censorship with stories like 'There was no protest outside the embassy in Canberra today' [unlike the day before]
Anyway. Not to be off-topic, but with a headline like that does it really matter.
Shagrat
May 13, 2008, 03:58 AM
OMG no new MBP's? *THROWS CURRENT MBP AGAINST THE WALL THEN BURNS THE REMAINS, sits down and sucks thumb*
Yeah, get over it.
Yeah, and no new G5 Powerbooks, either...
WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO????
PAC2007
May 13, 2008, 07:06 AM
Now there are updated!
Get this on the front page!!!!
:D
Shasterball
May 13, 2008, 07:16 AM
I guess no news here is.....news?
gcortega
May 13, 2008, 01:31 PM
why the hell is this even an topic before june?
gkarris
May 13, 2008, 01:39 PM
^^^^
Sometimes, just talking about a possible new computer can be liberating... :eek:
Ade-iMac-177
May 13, 2008, 05:47 PM
Huh?!?! - why is anyone surprised by this?
I thought Intel had confirmed that the MBP would get an update in JUNE - this is WWDC and everyone reasonable knows this.
lets hope for more multi-touch gestures on mousepad
Cheffy Dave
May 14, 2008, 08:03 AM
My guess: some people were fooled by the 2.6 GHz MacBook (likely) typo (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/11/leak-or-typo-2-6ghz-macbooks/) and got a bit confused. They also noticed the MBP ad advertising 2.6 GHz and multi-touch without realizing that it's nothing new. In the heat of their excitement, Apple's MBP and store pages of course confirmed all of it (as they have since February), so the confused folks started posting about it. Other sites picked up on it without thinking, and boom: viral misinformation.
I concur oh wild one:cool:
sleepingworker
May 14, 2008, 10:09 AM
Not sure what everyone is expecting, the MBP and MB were just recently updated, if anything a sly bump is about all you should expect this year.
Now next year Feb or March that is a different story, expect major design and Nehalem chip. But not this year.
Actually, some of us are expecting (and hoping for) a major design change this year - before the release of the Nehalem chip.
wr90
May 15, 2008, 08:38 PM
I bet the next updates for the macbook pro won't come until about a month after the montevina release.
ckurowic
Jun 15, 2008, 11:49 PM
Haha. Brilliant. :D
I'm scared to ask, but what would your reaction have been if there HAD been new MBP updates? :eek:
You don't want to know....No, actually, the point I was trying to make was that too many people are dissatisfied with the current technology they have purchased. They whine relentlessly for NEW stuff, when the stuff they've got works just fine!
ckurowic
Jun 15, 2008, 11:51 PM
Yeah, and no new G5 Powerbooks, either...
WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO????
Zim: "GIR, come to the observatory....what have you done to the telescope?"
Gir:"Nothing...."
Zim: "Something is broken and it isn't your fault?"
Gir: "I know, I'm scared too....."
I remember that rumor. I laughed until I cried...but "everyone" was 100% convinced. Rarely are we SHOCKED by new technology....many can't seem to grasp that concept.
28monkeys
Jun 16, 2008, 03:01 AM
There will be an update SOOON !!
jayhawk11
Jun 16, 2008, 03:21 AM
Why is this thread getting resurrected?
Westsider 4 Mac
Jun 16, 2008, 07:45 AM
Why is this thread getting resurrected?
I am not sure as there is no real news about the MBP that I know of. It is clear to me that anything happening in 2008 with the MBP will be a speedbump only.:apple:
Neutral Gamer
Jun 16, 2008, 09:02 AM
The point I was trying to make was that too many people are dissatisfied with the current technology they have purchased. They whine relentlessly for NEW stuff, when the stuff they've got works just fine!
Amen brother! People on these forums keep talking about waiting for Nehalem updates next year as that will be the "real" update but most people ain't gonna notice a damn difference. The previous Santa Rosa, the current Penryn, the forthcoming Montevina and the future Nehalem MBPs will all load Safari quick enough (is clicking on the dock icon and it coming up more or less "instantly" not good enough for people?) and let you browse the web at the same speed.
Ditto for listening to music, using iWork, iPhoto and most importantly of all, Calculator and TextEdit! Unless you're using your MBP for processor intensive tasks, such as video editing or gaming, it just won't matter. I reckon that most people who own a MBP hardly stretch its processing capabilities at all. They just like the idea of having high specs and the latest technology whether they need it or not; the same for many people who put 4GB in their machines.
There will be an update SOOON !!
God, I hope so. All I want is a redesign and hopefully a new graphics card. Any processor speed bumps I couldn't care less over. The fact that they didn't make the touchpad bigger and kept the same keyboard when the multi-touch MBPs came out hopefully means they're saving it all for a proper redesign in the next revision. Just waiting patiently post July 14th to see if anything happens ...
Why is this thread getting resurrected?
Well the title of the thread is: "No New MacBook Pros Today" and as there are aren't any new MBP's today I guess this thread is still valid and will continue to be so until they are released... :D
thepreludedude
Jun 16, 2008, 11:46 AM
i wasn't confused until now.
bassanoclapper
Jun 17, 2008, 11:44 AM
Oh dear, it's like the Monday postings before the iMac refresh again.
It'll be here when it's ready and then folk will moan cos there's no Blue Ray, FW 1600, SSHD, 20" Display MBPs or 15" MBs
Bubba Satori
Jun 17, 2008, 12:01 PM
Oh dear, it's like the Monday postings before the iMac refresh again.
It'll be here when it's ready and then folk will moan cos there's no Blue Ray, FW 1600, SSHD, 20" Display MBPs or 15" MBs
Waiting sucks. Saw a 15" Toshiba laptop in the Sunday ads with a 2.5Ghz Penryn, 400GB drive, 4GB memory, Nvidia 9400GS, card reader and Blu-ray for $999. :eek: Wonder how Service pack 1 has improved Vista ?
SchneiderMan
Jun 17, 2008, 12:28 PM
july is a good month
Zadillo
Jun 17, 2008, 12:53 PM
Waiting sucks. Saw a 15" Toshiba laptop in the Sunday ads with a 2.5Ghz Penryn, 400GB drive, 4GB memory, Nvidia 9400GS, card reader and Blu-ray for $999. :eek: Wonder how Service pack 1 has improved Vista ?
What model is that exactly, and who sells it? Just checked Best Buy and Circuit City and neither of them sell a laptop with anything close to those specs - Toshiba or otherwise - (I haven't even heard of Toshiba already offering a blu-ray drive yet after dropping HD-DVD as an option in their laptops), and certainly not for $999.
-Zadillo
Westsider 4 Mac
Jun 17, 2008, 01:29 PM
Waiting sucks. Saw a 15" Toshiba laptop in the Sunday ads with a 2.5Ghz Penryn, 400GB drive, 4GB memory, Nvidia 9400GS, card reader and Blu-ray for $999. :eek: Wonder how Service pack 1 has improved Vista ?
Which model is this as the specs and price point sound inviting!:)
Neutral Gamer
Jun 17, 2008, 01:41 PM
Which model is this as the specs and price point sound inviting!:)
Mate, you've already got a:
17 inch MBP 2.16
15 inch MBP 2.4 Penryn
12 inch PBG4 867
Clamshell G3
PBG3
How many more laptops dost thou need on this so called "West Side" where you reside? :D
But I agree with Bubba Satori, it's hard waiting for the MBP updates when there's so many enticing PC alternatives, gotta resist the temptation and wait for :apple: ...
phalewhale
Jun 17, 2008, 02:16 PM
Amen brother! People on these forums keep talking about waiting for Nehalem updates next year as that will be the "real" update but most people ain't gonna notice a damn difference. The previous Santa Rosa, the current Penryn, the forthcoming Montevina and the future Nehalem MBPs will all load Safari quick enough (is clicking on the dock icon and it coming up more or less "instantly" not good enough for people?) and let you browse the web at the same speed.
Ditto for listening to music, using iWork, iPhoto and most importantly of all, Calculator and TextEdit! Unless you're using your MBP for processor intensive tasks, such as video editing or gaming, it just won't matter. I reckon that most people who own a MBP hardly stretch its processing capabilities at all. They just like the idea of having high specs and the latest technology whether they need it or not; the same for many people who put 4GB in their machines.
I know what you mean. For the majority, it probably won't be that important. However, it totally depends on what you need to do. I maxxed out my iMac so that I have plenty of RAM available for my virtual machines. I almost considered a Mac Pro so that I'd have more than 4GB at my disposal but I know that for now, I can get away with doing my stuff on the iMac and the PCs I still own. I plan to get a Mac Pro next year with at least 10GB RAM so I can clear out my garage of a few PCs. Therefore, I am hoping that by then a redesigned case and new displays are gonna be on sale. No matter if they aren't though.
Bubba Satori
Jun 17, 2008, 11:53 PM
What model is that exactly, and who sells it? Just checked Best Buy and Circuit City and neither of them sell a laptop with anything close to those specs - Toshiba or otherwise - (I haven't even heard of Toshiba already offering a blu-ray drive yet after dropping HD-DVD as an option in their laptops), and certainly not for $999.
-Zadillo
My bad. It was two weeks ago in Best Buy's ad and it was $1,099, not $999.
Zadillo
Jun 18, 2008, 12:07 AM
My bad. It was two weeks ago in Best Buy's ad and it was $1,099, not $999.
Still, what model though? The specs you describe don't match up with anything I've seen Best Buy selling (nothing currently comes close to it); most of the stuff from Toshiba Best Buy sells right now usually features much lesser processors than 2.5GHz Penryns, especially in the 15" range, and as far as I know, Toshiba hasn't started putting blu-ray drives in their laptops yet (and if they did, $1099 would be an incredibly low price for one).
The closest I can even find is the currently $1249 Toshiba A305 here:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8770582&type=product&id=1203815723071
Which does have a 400GB drive (or specifically one 5400RPM 200GB drive and one 4200 RPM drive), 4GB of RAM, but only a 2.1GHz T8100, a regular multiformat DVD+-RW drive, only a 1280x800 screen, a Radeon HD3470, is 1.5" thick and weighs 6 pounds.
This doesn't quite match up with a similar model with a blu-ray drive and a 9400M GS for only $1099.
ntrigue
Jun 18, 2008, 12:44 AM
Right. The parent of HD-DVD is implementing Blu-ray within 2 months of an estimated half-billion lost in the format wars!
In the future your argument will find better ground in truth.
Bubba Satori
Jun 19, 2008, 08:00 AM
Right. The parent of HD-DVD is implementing Blu-ray within 2 months of an estimated half-billion lost in the format wars!
In the future your argument will find better ground in truth.
It was the ad two weeks ago and it might have been an Asus and not a Toshiba. I don't keep the ads to refer to. I was in error about the price, as I pointed out.
In the future you might be less pompous, but probably not. :rolleyes:
Zadillo
Jun 19, 2008, 09:15 AM
It was the ad two weeks ago and it might have been an Asus and not a Toshiba. I don't keep the ads to refer to. I was in error about the price, as I pointed out.
In the future you might be less pompous, but probably not. :rolleyes:
I think you're thinking of the Asus M50Sv-X2:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8761217&type=product&id=1202650467562
2.5GHz Core 2 Duo T9300, 1280x800 screen, 250GB HD, GeForce 9500M graphics, 2GB of RAM. Currently priced at $1349, so if they had it on sale 2 weeks ago for $150 off, $1099 would make sense.
Note that this does not have a blu-ray drive, it's only got a 1280x800 screen, and it weighs 6.7 pounds and is 1.5" thick. Note the GeForce 9500M is not dramatically better performance wise than the 8600M GT.
For what it's worth, you can find configurations of the Asus M50S with a blu-ray drive online for a simlar price (i.e. http://www.directron.com/m50svb1.html) although they do that partially by dropping the CPU down to a T8100.
Note that Asus is also notorious for terrible battery life on their laptops.
Even at a sale price of $1099, this is a decent laptop, but compared to the much lighter and thinner MBP (with a higher res LED-backlit screen)
Since you brought it up as something that was more desirable than an MBP, I kind of have to wonder what specifically it is about this model that you find appealing.
-Zadillo
Bubba Satori
Jun 19, 2008, 08:21 PM
I think you're thinking of the Asus M50Sv-X2:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8761217&type=product&id=1202650467562
2.5GHz Core 2 Duo T9300, 1280x800 screen, 250GB HD, GeForce 9500M graphics, 2GB of RAM. Currently priced at $1349, so if they had it on sale 2 weeks ago for $150 off, $1099 would make sense.
Note that this does not have a blu-ray drive, it's only got a 1280x800 screen, and it weighs 6.7 pounds and is 1.5" thick. Note the GeForce 9500M is not dramatically better performance wise than the 8600M GT.
For what it's worth, you can find configurations of the Asus M50S with a blu-ray drive online for a simlar price (i.e. http://www.directron.com/m50svb1.html) although they do that partially by dropping the CPU down to a T8100.
Note that Asus is also notorious for terrible battery life on their laptops.
Even at a sale price of $1099, this is a decent laptop, but compared to the much lighter and thinner MBP (with a higher res LED-backlit screen)
Since you brought it up as something that was more desirable than an MBP, I kind of have to wonder what specifically it is about this model that you find appealing.
-Zadillo
Well, I screwed that up, didn't I. Sorry folks. My bad. Nothing intentional.
cherry su
Jun 19, 2008, 08:58 PM
intel hasn't debuted their Nehalem chipset to the public; no surprise here
Eidorian
Jun 19, 2008, 09:30 PM
intel hasn't debuted their Nehalem chipset to the public; no surprise hereAt least their mobile chipset...
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