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MacRumors
May 13, 2008, 09:15 AM
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Apple officially announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/05/13wwdc.html) today that "a team of Apple executives, led by CEO Steve Jobs" would kick off Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference (WWDC) with a keynote address starting at 10 a.m. on Monday, June 9th.

This year's WWDC will be showcasing both Mac OS X and OS X iPhone:The five-day WWDC event, which runs from June 9 to June 13, will feature the first ever iPhone track for mobile developers with in-depth sessions and hands-on labs to fully explore the capabilities of the OS X iPhone 2.0 software, including the iPhone SDK and the App Store, a breakthrough way for developers to wirelessly deliver their applications to iPhone and iPod touch users.
Apple is widely expected to introduce a 3G-capable iPhone at this year's WWDC.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/13/steve-jobs-and-apple-executives-to-keynote-wwdc-officially/)



MacDonaldsd
May 13, 2008, 09:16 AM
Anyone think Mac OS 10.6 will get a mention ?

Eidorian
May 13, 2008, 09:17 AM
WWDC looks huge this year even if it's not about OS X. I'm surprised that June is coming so quickly.

Sky Blue
May 13, 2008, 09:17 AM
Urgh, I hate it when Steve doesn't do the whole Keynote.

Anyone think Mac OS 10.6 will get a mention ?


Nope

zelmo
May 13, 2008, 09:19 AM
Maybe not a mention, but at least a reference.:)

Sounds like Steve will be handing off segments again. It's probably a good idea for Apple to put a few other faces out there to see how they do, and to show investors and media that people other than Mr. Jobs can handle the spotlight okay.

That being said, there's still nothing quite like 100 minutes of pure RDF.:p

MacinDoc
May 13, 2008, 09:20 AM
Why bother with a new story for this instead of updating the story from the other day "Steve Jobs to Give Keynote at WWDC on June 9th"?

thefunkymunky
May 13, 2008, 09:22 AM
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Apple officially announced (http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/05/13wwdc.html) today that "a team of Apple executives, led by CEO Steve Jobs" would kick off Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference (WWDC) with a keynote address starting at 10 a.m. on Monday, June 9th.

This year's WWDC will be showcasing both Mac OS X and OS X iPhone:
Apple is widely expected to introduce a 3G-capable iPhone at this year's WWDC.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/13/steve-jobs-and-apple-executives-to-keynote-wwdc-officially/)

Hmm, this makes me think that Stevo will officially announce he is stepping down and Johnny Ive is taking over.

bbplayer5
May 13, 2008, 09:22 AM
Pretty sure the iphone will come out the same day as last year. Selling all phones out and leaving a month to breath increases demand. Brilliant strategy imo.

aLoC
May 13, 2008, 09:24 AM
Probably Steve Jobs will talk for 5 minutes at the beginning and end, with Scott Forstall discussing the iPhone and Bertrand Serlet discussing OS X. Just a guess.

BornAgainMac
May 13, 2008, 09:24 AM
My attention goes down when Steve walks off the stage. I bet 10.6 will get mentioned. Steve mentioned something like 18 months they plan to have an update come out.

(Looks like the iPhone or Mac Mini won't get updated today)

MacinDoc
May 13, 2008, 09:29 AM
Pretty sure the iphone will come out the same day as last year. Selling all phones out and leaving a month to breath increases demand. Brilliant strategy imo.
It may increase demand, but it would decrease overall sales. It would kill the iPhone's momentum, too. It would be a very poor business strategy to have no sales for a month.

Penguinwrangler
May 13, 2008, 09:29 AM
I still don't see how they will go more than a month with ZERO iPhone sales, particularly at a time when competitive (at least on price point) phones have just started to get traction in advertising and recognition with consumers. It seems completely detrimental to their brand, let alone their actual quarterly numbers.

kornyboy
May 13, 2008, 09:30 AM
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

How often has the WWDC keynote been done by several different executives? I know Phil and other have done some things in the past. Just curious.

Santa Rosa
May 13, 2008, 09:33 AM
Hmm, this makes me think that Stevo will officially announce he is stepping down and Johnny Ive is taking over.

That would put a pretty big cloud over the whole event. :(

Pwned
May 13, 2008, 09:33 AM
I think 10.6 will definitely get a mention. My hopes are really fading for a pre-WWDC release of the iPhone, the only thing keeping them up is all they talk about is the software aspect of it in the article.

Project
May 13, 2008, 09:34 AM
Hmm, this makes me think that Stevo will officially announce he is stepping down and Johnny Ive is taking over.


Have you ever seen a WWDC keynote before? It always has other speakers. Because Jobs doesn't know the technical stuff like they do.

callmemike20
May 13, 2008, 09:35 AM
We can't rely on Steve for long. What happens when he leaves? If the company has this much reliance on him to pump up consumers, then the moment he leaves the stock will plummet. From there, no one knows where Apple will end up. Sure, I like it better when he does it, but we have to get some new people in there to make sure the company can survive without Steve. Just look at the 90's.

Whtddhesay
May 13, 2008, 09:38 AM
Because there's some evidence that iPhone firmware 2.0 will have stereo bluetooth, I'd be willing to bet that they will announce their own set of bluetooth headphones. I've always believed that they've been holding back a stereo bluetooth update because they were waiting to release their own hardware to go along with it.

L3X
May 13, 2008, 09:44 AM
I would not take anything from Steve not giving the entire presentation. He's been calling on other people for a while now. It shows that Apple is more than just him, especially when he calls up execs from google, intel, yahoo, etc.

Remember when the SDK meeting was held, he had multiple people talk about different aspects of the SDK and Active Sync. I'm sure he wants the people actually heading up these projects to fully explain them instead of him just glossing over things and forgetting important details.

razorianfly
May 13, 2008, 09:44 AM
Because there's some evidence that iPhone firmware 2.0 will have stereo bluetooth, I'd be willing to bet that they will announce their own set of bluetooth headphones. I've always believed that they've been holding back a stereo bluetooth update because they were waiting to release their own hardware to go along with it.

WWDC is a 'development' focused event. New consumer-focused product announcements are seen at Macworld.

R-Fly

MacGeek Pro
May 13, 2008, 09:46 AM
And June 9th is my birthday! This will be the best birthday ever if he announces new iPhone hardware.

abrooks
May 13, 2008, 09:50 AM
We can't rely on Steve for long. What happens when he leaves? If the company has this much reliance on him to pump up consumers, then the moment he leaves the stock will plummet. From there, no one knows where Apple will end up. Sure, I like it better when he does it, but we have to get some new people in there to make sure the company can survive without Steve. Just look at the 90's.

Jobs has still got a few years left in him, mid-50's is nothing these days.

Akzel
May 13, 2008, 09:51 AM
So it's probably going to be only iPhone 2.0 and OS X 10.5.3? :-(

nick9191
May 13, 2008, 09:54 AM
Is it possible to watch the keynote live? Could the guys take a webcam and ustream the entire thing?

Obi-Wan Kubrick
May 13, 2008, 09:54 AM
Urgh, I hate it when Steve doesn't do the whole Keynote.




Nope

I agree.

I think there is 1 or 2 maximum OSX 10'6 before 11 is announced.

swingerofbirch
May 13, 2008, 09:59 AM
It makes me sad to think of Steve leaving.

Since Apple reminds me so much of Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, I think they should hide five golden tickets amongst five iPods around the globe. The winners of the golden tickets should get a tour of the Apple Campus, but before they get there a mysterious man in the shadows must try to trick the winners into divulging Apple's secrets to Microsoft. Then once in the Apple Campus, greed will overtake four of the five winners, including one who eats all the sushi at the sushi bar and falls gravely ill. The shortest of Apple employees will sing songs with life lessons about not falling victim to these vices.

Alas, one winner, the meekest of them all, most likely me, will be given the golden key to Apple by Steve Jobs and will live happily ever after.

Suddenly, I don't feel so sad about Steve leaving some day!

Whtddhesay
May 13, 2008, 10:00 AM
WWDC is a 'development' focused event. New consumer-focused product announcements are seen at Macworld.

R-Fly

Yeah, but don't you think that a 3G iPhone is going to be announced on that day? Probably at the keynote? And if so, don't you think that bluetooth headphones may also be introduced? I'm just saying it's not out of the question.

MikeDTyke
May 13, 2008, 10:01 AM
So it's probably going to be only iPhone 2.0 and OS X 10.5.3? :-(

It'll be iPhone v2.0 dominated but i fully expect Jobs or Serlet to talk about 10.6 and give a preview of anything developers need to know about. 10.6 is probably on target for a End Q1 or Q2 2009 release. There won't be another WWDC before its released, so anything changed in the core libs will be up for grabs.

M.

CrackedButter
May 13, 2008, 10:01 AM
10.6 wont be mentioned until next year I reckon, Leopard was delayed remember so what makes individuals here think they are on the ball with Lion (or whatever it is called)? Look at it this way as well, we're only on 10.5.2 as well.

thefunkymunky
May 13, 2008, 10:02 AM
Have you ever seen a WWDC keynote before? It always has other speakers. Because Jobs doesn't know the technical stuff like they do.

Yes I usually watch every one. But is hasn't been announced before that "a team of Apple executives" are to attend WWDC with Stevo.

Shasterball
May 13, 2008, 10:03 AM
Anyone think Mac OS 10.6 will get a mention ?

Can we fix 10.5 first?

porky
May 13, 2008, 10:03 AM
Yeah, but don't you think that a 3G iPhone is going to be announced on that day? Probably at the keynote? And if so, don't you think that bluetooth headphones may also be introduced? I'm just saying it's not out of the question.

YES, the 2 bridges on the invitation are 2 different iphones! ... I think....

Project
May 13, 2008, 10:06 AM
Yes I usually watch every one. But is hasn't been announced before that "a team of Apple executives" are to attend WWDC with Stevo.


Yet in reality it is a team of Apple executives, every single year.


I really wouldn't take anything from the wording.

stew278
May 13, 2008, 10:15 AM
Steve Jobs is on the 3-5 years to retirement plan. He'll follow in Bill Gates' footsteps by giving to competitor philanthropic projects of Bill Gates, trying to improve them by making them simpler, sexier, and much more appealing to the consumer recipients. Commercials will follow, letting everyone know how much better his philanthropy efforts are, and will mark the 200th time that Justin Long is cast in one of Steve's commercials. His efforts will be known as "iGive."

Lershac
May 13, 2008, 10:40 AM
Jobs has still got a few years left in him, mid-50's is nothing these days.

Well he is a cancer survivor... added risk there. If I were on the board, developing his successor would be among my top to do items.

fewgraphik
May 13, 2008, 10:46 AM
Me, I just want some little news about "Macintosh". Remember, the old computer ?

Mac Pros : new look ? where is the blu-ray drive ?

MacBook Pros : new look ? blu-ray drive ? new keyboard ? SSD ?

new cinema display models : new look ? integrated webcam ? more (multitouch) ?

I love iPhone, and I work everyday on my Mac as a graphist in France, but Apple's future needs to think more about the computer users side.

Just in case someone forgot that all came from that.

Mykbibby
May 13, 2008, 10:46 AM
Yes I usually watch every one. But is hasn't been announced before that "a team of Apple executives" are to attend WWDC with Stevo.

Probably to brace fanboys like ourselves for the pain. I HATE when Jobs doesn't do the whole thing. Schiller I don't mind, but that Jobs wannabe kid, and Bertrand Solei just make me want to jump off a building. I swear, if one of them announces the new iPhone hardware, I am really going to be upset!!!

MikeDTyke
May 13, 2008, 10:46 AM
10.6 wont be mentioned until next year I reckon, Leopard was delayed remember so what makes individuals here think they are on the ball with Lion (or whatever it is called)? Look at it this way as well, we're only on 10.5.2 as well.

why do you think that. Sure Leopard was delayed due to iPhone, more specifically to get core animation finished. There's nothing yet to imply a similar delay, so i'd say we're back to 12 to 18 months between releases which from Nov 07 = Q1/Q2 2009.

Besides which Apple show's off at least some of the bells and whistles 9 months to a year before release so that developers can get a feel for what they are developing against. They can't just leave it til next May/June and then release it in 1 to 6 months. Thinking either the release is early summer or late Q4.

Lershac
May 13, 2008, 10:47 AM
Steve Jobs is on the 3-5 years to retirement plan. He'll follow in Bill Gates' footsteps by giving to competitor philanthropic projects of Bill Gates, trying to improve them by making them simpler, sexier, and much more appealing to the consumer recipients. Commercials will follow, letting everyone know how much better his philanthropy efforts are, and will mark the 200th time that Justin Long is cast in one of Steve's commercials. His efforts will be known as "iGive."

Uh no. Steve is not exactly a philanthropic guy. Google it and compare his philanthropy efforts with others at his wealth level.

Not criticizing, it is entirely within his domain what the heck to do with his money, but yeah dont expect too much unless he has some sort of personal revelation. Even Pancreatic cancer didnt do that for him.

Baumi
May 13, 2008, 10:49 AM
Hmm, this makes me think that Stevo will officially announce he is stepping down and Johnny Ive is taking over.

Personally, the phrase "a team of Apple executives, led by CEO Steve Jobs" makes me think of some guys in brightly colored spandex suits setting out to kick Steve Ballmer's (aka "The Evil Steve"[tm]) behind. :D

Mykbibby
May 13, 2008, 10:51 AM
iPhone 2.0 Hardware, Software SDK mention (brief), MAYBE OS X 10.6, and, one more thing, updating MacBook Pros (sigh)...

Lershac
May 13, 2008, 10:51 AM
Personally, the phrase "a team of Apple executives, led by CEO Steve Jobs" makes me think of some guys in brightly colored spandex suits setting out to kick Steve Ballmer's (aka "The Evil Steve"[tm]) behind. :D

No, No.... NINJAS, much cooler. and they wield...wickidly sharp edged macbook air units like throwing stars

stew278
May 13, 2008, 10:55 AM
Uh no. Steve is not exactly a philanthropic guy. Google it and compare his philanthropy efforts with others at his wealth level.

Not criticizing, it is entirely within his domain what the heck to do with his money, but yeah dont expect too much unless he has some sort of personal revelation. Even Pancreatic cancer didnt do that for him.

Sorry ... I should have added some [SARCASM] tags ...

Baumi
May 13, 2008, 10:55 AM
MacBook Pros : new look ? blu-ray drive ? new keyboard ? SSD ?


AFAIK, Blu-ray drives are still power hungry, so I wouldn't expect one in an Apple laptop anytime soon. I agree, however, that it should be an option for the MacPros if Apple wants to keep its edge in the media industry.

maxbarros
May 13, 2008, 11:05 AM
I still don't see how they will go more than a month with ZERO iPhone sales, particularly at a time when competitive (at least on price point) phones have just started to get traction in advertising and recognition with consumers. It seems completely detrimental to their brand, let alone their actual quarterly numbers.you can still buy them on att website

Lershac
May 13, 2008, 11:06 AM
Sorry ... I should have added some [SARCASM] tags ...

Probably so, I got into a heated argument with a fanboy on this subject. Well it was heated on his end. Resolved into him hurling epithets and name-calling. I guess it was hard to see that even the best of folks have areas you dont agree with them on.

Meh, me, I am not sure I would be philanthropic either. Maybe it would be fun though,

stew278
May 13, 2008, 11:17 AM
Probably so, I got into a heated argument with a fanboy on this subject. Well it was heated on his end. Resolved into him hurling epithets and name-calling. I guess it was hard to see that even the best of folks have areas you dont agree with them on.

Meh, me, I am not sure I would be philanthropic either. Maybe it would be fun though,

In all seriousness, Steve Jobs' ego is as big as his bank account. One could easily make the argument that he could stand to deflate both a tad. After all, I just had a neighbor who died a few weeks ago due to a heart attack - nobody knew him because he'd never bother to say "hi" to anyone. The moral of the story being that if you can't bother to think of others once in a while, don't expect anyone to think greatly (or even at all) of you after you kick...

bigandy
May 13, 2008, 11:27 AM
Me, I just want some little news about "Macintosh". Remember, the old computer ?

Mac Pros : new look ? where is the blu-ray drive ?

MacBook Pros : new look ? blu-ray drive ? new keyboard ? SSD ?

new cinema display models : new look ? integrated webcam ? more (multitouch) ?

I love iPhone, and I work everyday on my Mac as a graphist in France, but Apple's future needs to think more about the computer users side.

Just in case someone forgot that all came from that.

See here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5429791&postcount=58).

digitalbiker
May 13, 2008, 11:41 AM
Does anybody else think that it is odd that the Apple Online store has stopped taking orders on the iphone?

Even if Apple is phasing out the iphone gen 1 for the iphone gen 2 and there are shortages of iphone gen 1. Why isn't Apple still taking orders? Apple has never had a problem before taking orders for product that was over 2 months from shipping.

With WWDC still 4 weeks away, doesn't it sound like the iphone gen 2 will come out before WWDC?

If that is the case WWDC will focus on iphone sdk, iphone apps, mac OS X 10.6 , and possibly new product announcements such as MBA gen 2, totally re-designed MBP, possible new MP, possible tablet, possible new wii like gamer mac.

Mykbibby
May 13, 2008, 11:50 AM
Does anybody else think that it is odd that the Apple Online store has stopped taking orders on the iphone?

Even if Apple is phasing out the iphone gen 1 for the iphone gen 2 and there are shortages of iphone gen 1. Why isn't Apple still taking orders? Apple has never had a problem before taking orders for product that was over 2 months from shipping.

With WWDC still 4 weeks away, doesn't it sound like the iphone gen 2 will come out before WWDC?

If that is the case WWDC will focus on iphone sdk, iphone apps, mac OS X 10.6 , and possibly new product announcements such as MBA gen 2, totally re-designed MBP, possible new MP, possible tablet, possible new wii like gamer mac.

Possible Cinema Displays, Possible Apple TV, Possible Two Button Mouse, Possible G5 PowerBooks, Possibly going from 10 AM to 7 PM, fulfilling the dreams of fanboys all over the world.

Oh, and Safari possibly will seem snappier.

kajitox
May 13, 2008, 12:26 PM
I think one thing that a lot of people miss is that WWDC is a Developers' Conference...for...developers...this isn't a consumer-based event. It would be logical that Apple would focus on the iPhone 2 software, and maybe just MAYBE release a new iPhone, but they definitely wouldn't release a new iPhone, update computers, add this that and the other thing to hardware, blah, blah, blah. I would be surprised if they released the new iPhone, even, since it is for developers. The only reason they would have to do that is to get people hyped about new SDK possibilities with changed iPhone hardware.

spaz8
May 13, 2008, 12:38 PM
My initial reaction is that yes Steve is weening us off of him being THE face of apple. So when he does retire etc we recognize the next gen, his successor.

CrackedButter
May 13, 2008, 12:38 PM
why do you think that. Sure Leopard was delayed due to iPhone, more specifically to get core animation finished. There's nothing yet to imply a similar delay, so i'd say we're back to 12 to 18 months between releases which from Nov 07 = Q1/Q2 2009.

Besides which Apple show's off at least some of the bells and whistles 9 months to a year before release so that developers can get a feel for what they are developing against. They can't just leave it til next May/June and then release it in 1 to 6 months. Thinking either the release is early summer or late Q4.

First Apple have mentioned they would slow down new revisions of their operating system as the system becomes more stable.

Second, it would make sense that if they didn't have the man power to complete Leopard on time then it obviously has a knock on effect with future projects relating to the operating system.

Third, Apple have also stated they are short on man power and hiring is a slow process because they want to be sure who they take on, given that they said that. It isn't likely that they will rush into 10.6 without doing it with enough staff and properly. Apple have even stated they are not going to lay off anybody during this slow down in the economy because it takes them a while to build up their talent. They'd be hurting themselves in the long term and we all know Apple likes to think about the long term.

Fourth, what is the rush for 10.6 anyway?

gkarris
May 13, 2008, 12:43 PM
With the popularity of OS X Touch devices, I think they may add another touch device - iPad or iTablet (with 3G?)

Since the Macs are getting pretty popular, maybe introduce a redesigned Mini, if not then, maybe in the fall.

Ade-iMac-177
May 13, 2008, 01:19 PM
I Can't think of a time, besides obviously when he didn't worked at NeXt, that Steve hasn't done the keynote - but they are always great, insanely great you could say:p

I reckon that it will cover:

first views of OS X 10.6
New iPhone and applications and other phone stuff
New Portable Macs
And the One More Thing:- PDA/tablet thing


YAY! - go WWDC

MacinDoc
May 13, 2008, 01:47 PM
I can see SJ saying "we're already working on 10.6, and you won't believe what we're doing with it", but nothing more specific than that, since 10.6 is probably still 18 months away.

As far as speculation that SJ is stepping down goes, keep in mind that other Apple execs almost always share in the keynote presentation. So their inclusion says nothing about SJ's plans. Remember, he is a notorious control freak, so he will likely to continue to head Apple as long as he has the ability and the interest to do so.

BornAgainMac
May 13, 2008, 01:55 PM
Probably 10.6 will include some new top secret wallpapers and a mouse gesture to remove your files with the Dock cloud animation.

lostngone
May 13, 2008, 02:27 PM
It makes me sad to think of Steve leaving.

Since Apple reminds me so much of Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, I think they should hide five golden tickets amongst five iPods around the globe. The winners of the golden tickets should get a tour of the Apple Campus, but before they get there a mysterious man in the shadows must try to trick the winners into divulging Apple's secrets to Microsoft. Then once in the Apple Campus, greed will overtake four of the five winners, including one who eats all the sushi at the sushi bar and falls gravely ill. The shortest of Apple employees will sing songs with life lessons about not falling victim to these vices.

Alas, one winner, the meekest of them all, most likely me, will be given the golden key to Apple by Steve Jobs and will live happily ever after.

Suddenly, I don't feel so sad about Steve leaving some day!


That is freakin hilarious!

MidiMonk
May 13, 2008, 02:50 PM
Can we fix 10.5 first?

+1 --10.5 is a mess and probably going to down as the Win98 ME of OSX.

twoodcc
May 13, 2008, 03:03 PM
well i think we all knew that this was true. this just confirms it i guess. can't wait for wwdc though

gormond
May 13, 2008, 03:30 PM
+1 --10.5 is a mess and probably going to down as the Win98 ME of OSX.

What?

My first mac experience is 10.5 with my iMac and everything works great, all my devices work and I have had no crashes.

Me and my partner have had iMacs since 10.5 came out and both use them multiple hours a day with no problems.

I have had one error where time machine doesn't tell me any more when the last backup was but apart from that it still in fully working order as i use it often.

viniciusc
May 13, 2008, 04:26 PM
I expect the keynote not to be entirely about iPhone, I want something Mac new!

MidiMonk
May 13, 2008, 05:47 PM
What?

My first mac experience is 10.5 with my iMac and everything works great, all my devices work and I have had no crashes.

Me and my partner have had iMacs since 10.5 came out and both use them multiple hours a day with no problems.

I have had one error where time machine doesn't tell me any more when the last backup was but apart from that it still in fully working order as i use it often.

On my MBP, which has been overall solid till 10.5 turned it into a POS!!

1. The wireless is useless, it just drops when it pleases, requires a reboot sometimes to even get back on my network.10.4.9 is guilty too, don't have time to track down which update is causing this.

2. Launchd has been whirring in my console at full cpu usage, this occured
after the .2 upgrade and this has me fuming.When watching youtube or any flash based material the temps rise and the computer will lock or freeze.

3. My external monitor will cause sudden lock ups with no warning, requiring a hard reboot-This never happened with 10.4, and maybe 10.5.1 IIRC

Apple has become, to me, a disappointingly arrogant company with no concern for customer relations.I could careless about the iphone, and the secret society mentality is frankly getting old.I have sent bug reports, feedback, and just like countless others only to be ignored.

What would make me happy is for Steve Jobs to "open up" more at this WWDC and get the fixes out asap.

Prom1
May 13, 2008, 05:57 PM
Maybe not a mention, but at least a reference.:)

Sounds like Steve will be handing off segments again. It's probably a good idea for Apple to put a few other faces out there to see how they do, and to show investors and media that people other than Mr. Jobs can handle the spotlight okay.

That being said, there's still nothing quite like 100 minutes of pure RDF.:p

Yah man RDF keeps me going for another year ;!

However it IS a smart move that others show their expertise within the company for two main reasons. It doesn't wear out el Jobso keeping him at teh helm longer, and strengthens the brand, stock performance outlook that this company CAN & WILL do well when he does leave amicably and by his OWN accord! You don't want your favorite computer company to once again fall into the hands of imbecile's and the talent leave again, do we ?! HELL NO!

That said this tells me more of Apple pulling out ALL the stops and show us something SERIOUSLY amazing & strong for the OS, coders, fans, & stock value!!

Johnathan Ive at the helm? Gads no his voice is too mello, almost borderline a British electorate stoner. I respect him, even love him & his talents but I couldn't stand hearing his chilled out voice in a whole conference. However that new kid that showcased TimeMachine?! That dude I'll bet will host shows if STeve leaves. He just has that performance nack - even if he was a bit nervous, he really captivated all of us in a REAL user point of view showing us how software should work seemlessly, elegantly, and powerfully.

MacFly123
May 13, 2008, 06:45 PM
YES, the 2 bridges on the invitation are 2 different iphones! ... I think....

I am so sick of hearing this ridiculous comment. It is plainly and obviously as stated over and over in many many places OS X and OS X iPhone aka Apple's two platforms, the Mac and the iPhone.

Yes, there may be a surprise iPhone Nano or something, but that will still be the same OS and platform as the iPhone.

It is like you people have blinders on and only see what you want to see lol!

MattInOz
May 13, 2008, 09:43 PM
First Apple have mentioned they would slow down new revisions of their operating system as the system becomes more stable.

Second, it would make sense that if they didn't have the man power to complete Leopard on time then it obviously has a knock on effect with future projects relating to the operating system.

Third, Apple have also stated they are short on man power and hiring is a slow process because they want to be sure who they take on, given that they said that. It isn't likely that they will rush into 10.6 without doing it with enough staff and properly. Apple have even stated they are not going to lay off anybody during this slow down in the economy because it takes them a while to build up their talent. They'd be hurting themselves in the long term and we all know Apple likes to think about the long term.

Fourth, what is the rush for 10.6 anyway?

Well first, yes they are slowing down the time between but even 2 year cycle is only 18months away

Second. don't the core teams stay on the same project more or less, maybe with attack teams to move round and add capacity as needed. Even so all the platforms are related the teams would be always working towards version +1 and +2.

Third, but it depends what they are short of. You would expect a lot of what will be in 10.6 is already in 10.5 but undocumented, if the past is anything to go by. So the Tech writers might be needing some work while the programmers are too busy to look sideways.

Fourth, we have no idea what's in there so we can't know if there is a rush.
No doubt part of what is in the next will be new or improved API's so even if it's 18months off 3rd party dev's will want that amount of time to plan thier own feature paths and how they can use those feature, then of cause implement so their 10.6 target version is released not long after 10.6.

Maybe not a full preview, a few teasers of new features and API's really, and the all important cat name of choice. Is all we are really talking about this year.

zync
May 13, 2008, 09:54 PM
It makes me sad to think of Steve leaving.

Since Apple reminds me so much of Willy Wonka's chocolate factory, I think they should hide five golden tickets amongst five iPods around the globe. The winners of the golden tickets should get a tour of the Apple Campus, but before they get there a mysterious man in the shadows must try to trick the winners into divulging Apple's secrets to Microsoft. Then once in the Apple Campus, greed will overtake four of the five winners, including one who eats all the sushi at the sushi bar and falls gravely ill. The shortest of Apple employees will sing songs with life lessons about not falling victim to these vices.

Alas, one winner, the meekest of them all, most likely me, will be given the golden key to Apple by Steve Jobs and will live happily ever after.

Suddenly, I don't feel so sad about Steve leaving some day!

Nice, but I think you'll end up in a work by Robert Frost instead, while I win the challenge. If I were Apple, I'd do this in a heartbeat because it'd be hilarious and fitting.

Heezay
May 13, 2008, 09:56 PM
I want to buy a macbook very soon. Thought I do not know when to do so since they may be presenting new laptops at the WWDC. So when should I get a laptop?:confused:

joeshell383
May 13, 2008, 11:58 PM
Probably to brace fanboys like ourselves for the pain. I HATE when Jobs doesn't do the whole thing. Schiller I don't mind, but that Jobs wannabe kid, and Bertrand Solei just make me want to jump off a building. I swear, if one of them announces the new iPhone hardware, I am really going to be upset!!!

I mostly agree. While I do understand that Apple needs to move away from a one man show, I personally don't like any of the other execs.

The young guy is extremely cocky. Schiller isn't a very good public speaker. The others I never care for either. There is definitely a certain excitement and confidence when Steve gives the presentation.

awgoo
May 14, 2008, 12:14 AM
I want to buy a macbook very soon. Thought I do not know when to do so since they may be presenting new laptops at the WWDC. So when should I get a laptop?:confused:

i'm with you bro. i've been waiting for redesigned mb/mbp's for almost two years now. i just recently bought a new mini to keep me occupied for the moment. there have been rumors of redesigned mb/mbp's that apple may unveil @ wwdc. as far as your question goes, i'd wait it out as long as possible till the new ones come out unless you absolutely need one now. who knows, if apple doesn't announce a redesign in june, they may incorporate faster processors, larger hd's or more memory. you never know. well, those are my 2 cents.

Applepi
May 14, 2008, 12:43 AM
Can't wait. I like to see Phil because he adds humor to his presentation usually. However Bertrand needs subtitles and Scott needs to go work on his nervous leg and speaking in public skills.

danubecities
May 14, 2008, 02:02 AM
I registered for WWDC '08 and I'm looking forward to the keynote with Steve. I heard last year it was tough to get a seat and people had to arrive quite early. Anyone go last year? How early did you arrive prior to the keynote?

lostngone
May 14, 2008, 02:46 AM
I registered for WWDC '08 and I'm looking forward to the keynote with Steve. I heard last year it was tough to get a seat and people had to arrive quite early. Anyone go last year? How early did you arrive prior to the keynote?

I would recommend no later then 2 hours before to get a good seat.

Here is a tip.. After you go up the escalator and they funnel you into the auditorium immediately go left or right to the wall and rush to the front, you can normally get all the way to the front, well that is just behind the Press, Apple employees and VIPs.

Two years ago I was able to sneak into the Apple employees sections.

jons
May 14, 2008, 02:56 AM
+1 --10.5 is a mess and probably going to down as the Win98 ME of OSX.

I manage about 35 macs of various types, and I have had very few problems. Leopard is faster than tiger, and more robust. I can't see the comparison to ME.

- js

MidiMonk
May 14, 2008, 04:40 AM
I manage about 35 macs of various types, and I have had very few problems. Leopard is faster than tiger, and more robust. I can't see the comparison to ME.

- js

Leopard does feel faster, i agree to an extent...at a cost of far too many bugs and looking at al the radical changes in the OS since its release, Do Apple even know what direction its headed???

The reference to 98ME is based on the fact that 98SE was considered by many to be the best version of M$ OS.98ME was basically a premature OS wrapped in legacy and win2000 code with features that didn't even warrant its release IMHO.By comparison, Tiger while slower in feel is far more stable in my application, audio production, so it is a big YMMV.Updating was necessary because I needed my keyboard(the ELP issue) to work and the fix was only for 10.5 users.I had no intention to upgrade and to have a functioning laptop had to plunk down $129.Apple will never live this one down with me, because now I have more problems despite one fix that should have been available to all.