View Full Version : What do you guys do with your Macbooks?
Natsu
May 14, 2008, 11:12 AM
I just wanted to know and I've been wondering what's the maximum capacity of running some hardcore programs like Aperture or Logic.
XP Defector
May 14, 2008, 11:44 AM
Aperture 2.1 has really addressed the lag one experienced with 1.5, Apple really did do well in making serious improvements to Aperture, an arguably already good program. I'm using a first REV. MacBook with 2GB RAM and it handles Aperture 2.0 without complaint.
Audio software on the other hand is a different ballpark, depending on what exactly your doing. If your channeling in different instruments or mainly doing audio editing and mix downs, then standard MacBook will handle it. However, if you intend on running multiple VSTs, reverbs, compressors and the like, you would really need to have a decent external sound card, preferably firewire. I suppose if you knew a lot about audio you wouldn't be asking this right?
Main advice would be to buy a firewire external soundcard, something from M-audio or the like, throw in as much RAM as possible and you should be fine. I mean everyone talks about specifications these days, but some of the greatest electronic albums were produced on computers over a decade ago, Lunatic Harness by U-Ziq was produced on a Amiga, for example.
Basically MacBooks are fast, but going desktop is probably better for intensive audio applications or video editing etc.
krye
May 14, 2008, 12:24 PM
Think of it this way, if I have 5 or 6 tracks in GarageBand and if the song is about 6-7 minutes long, it complains about "a portion could not be played....." and stops playing and I have to close stuff up. Basically all I can have open is GarageBand.
I have a rev 1 MacBook 2.0 w/2G RAM. Also, I downloaded the Nine Inch Nails GarageBand files from nin.com and the machine sometimes has problems playing a whole track all the way through, never mind authoring something like it. Imagine trying to run Logic? I don't think you could get a lot done with it.
As far as Aperture goes, I don't know. I don't use it. My iPhoto library is 30 gigs and it sometimes chugs trying to scroll through my 300 events. I can only image the diffuculty Aperture would have considering it uses that much more memory.
You need a Pro machine to take full advantage of Pro apps. Sure, you'd save a few hundred bucks, but at the expense of productivity?
bpl323
May 14, 2008, 01:10 PM
Most people report that even Final Cut is running well on a MacBook.
Luzzio
May 14, 2008, 01:21 PM
Just a casual user on the Macbook, surfing, chatting etc.
Most of the intensive stuff like Photoshop and gaming is done on the desktop.
XP Defector
May 14, 2008, 08:12 PM
Think of it this way, if I have 5 or 6 tracks in GarageBand and if the song is about 6-7 minutes long, it complains about "a portion could not be played....." and stops playing and I have to close stuff up. Basically all I can have open is GarageBand.
I have a rev 1 MacBook 2.0 w/2G RAM. Also, I downloaded the Nine Inch Nails GarageBand files from nin.com and the machine sometimes has problems playing a whole track all the way through, never mind authoring something like it. Imagine trying to run Logic? I don't think you could get a lot done with it.
As far as Aperture goes, I don't know. I don't use it. My iPhoto library is 30 gigs and it sometimes chugs trying to scroll through my 300 events. I can only image the diffuculty Aperture would have considering it uses that much more memory.
You need a Pro machine to take full advantage of Pro apps. Sure, you'd save a few hundred bucks, but at the expense of productivity?
Actually Logics very good on a MacBook when running the built in VSTs, they're quite CPU efficient, unlike NI stuff. I doubt there is much difference between a MacBook and a MBP for Audioware so long as you put a 7200RPM internal disk in, and run samples from that or a fast external.
EMILinator
May 14, 2008, 08:36 PM
i use my macbook mostly for media (movies, music, photos), keeping them organized, surfing the web, chatting on ichat, screwing around with photo booth :D , typing papers for school
nothing too intensive.. which i have a gaming rig for haha. ;)
Remoth
May 15, 2008, 10:38 AM
i use mine for media, and some light 3d work. It works fine for light stuff, rendering just sucks the power. BUt I'm sure you could do a lot of 3d stuff with a macbook. I love it. I want a longer battery life though.
Samarium
May 15, 2008, 10:43 AM
Practically, I read my RSS all day long, Adium(MSN, AIM, Skype), watching movies(DVD). Safari for MacRumors.com/MacUpdate.com and Facebook. And a little bit of Photoshop CS3 which runs flawlessly for what I do.
mrklaw
May 15, 2008, 11:14 AM
think about the differences between the desktop imacs, the macbook pros and the macbooks. There really isn't very much - dedicated graphics on the high end imacs and the macbook pros which is useful for games, but processor speeds are similar so a good spec macbook should be capable of most of what an imac or MBP can do.
HDD is a little slow, but you can plug in a firewire drive or upgrade to a 7200rpm internal drive, and max out the ram.
I'm selling my imac24" as I figure I only use it because it has a big screen for photo editing. So I'll sell it and buy a 24" monitor which gives me some money back.
krye
May 15, 2008, 11:35 AM
Actually Logics very good on a MacBook when running the built in VSTs, they're quite CPU efficient, unlike NI stuff. I doubt there is much difference between a MacBook and a MBP for Audioware so long as you put a 7200RPM internal disk in, and run samples from that or a fast external.
Hum, interesting. So you think that a new 2.4G MacBook with 4G of RAM would rock Logic Studio? Or would I be better off with a MBP? I know, as far as the CPU goes, we're only talking about 100MHz and real-estate aside, would the pro apps benefit from the dedicated graphics card? I assume Aperture would. I don't know about Logic though.
LouisBlack
May 15, 2008, 11:54 AM
Hum, interesting. So you think that a new 2.4G MacBook with 4G of RAM would rock Logic Studio? Or would I be better off with a MBP? I know, as far as the CPU goes, we're only talking about 100MHz and real-estate aside, would the pro apps benefit from the dedicated graphics card? I assume Aperture would. I don't know about Logic though.
The onboard graphics will not affect audio pro-app performance whatsoever. You only have to worry about 3D games and a few video pro apps (Motion for example)
XP Defector
May 15, 2008, 12:17 PM
Hum, interesting. So you think that a new 2.4G MacBook with 4G of RAM would rock Logic Studio? Or would I be better off with a MBP? I know, as far as the CPU goes, we're only talking about 100MHz and real-estate aside, would the pro apps benefit from the dedicated graphics card? I assume Aperture would. I don't know about Logic though.
If there is no difference in the way a MacBook or a MacBook Pro utilize the 4GB of RAM, then I really see little difference between the two power wise sparing the fancy GPU in the MBP. I remember when Apple first implemented the intel processors and MacBooks were actually out performing the Pros in certain departments, though I can't produce any links for this. Of course, MacBook Pros offer more screen real estate, but beyond that for audio apps, I think the differences between Macbook and the 'Pro' are marginal, especially in view of the price difference. Main things in audio are a powerful external soundcard, a very fast hard drive and a decent amount of RAM. In anycase, I'd be doing all my production on my Mac Pro and using the MacBook for messing around when your away from your desk or for doing live audio DJing stuff with Ableton LIVE.
The onboard graphics will not affect audio pro-app performance whatsoever. You only have to worry about 3D games and a few video pro apps (Motion for example)
This is not strictly true, some VSTs opt for very complicated UIs, thus pushing some of the demand for the MacBook GPU. Is it not a case that once the GPU is overloaded it starts taking power from the RAM?
asme
May 15, 2008, 02:30 PM
In Boot Camp on a 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM, GMA950 machine, I can run Homeworld 2, the most epic game ever.
It was 4 constant hours of Homeworld 2 that made half of the bottom case of my macbook crack and turn yellow from heat. I'm talking 9 square inches of cracks, not just one or two piddly lines.
Moral of the story? The Macbook cannot withstand manufacturer's intended use.
gkarris
May 15, 2008, 03:09 PM
You don't want to know... ;) :D
:eek:
bigjnyc
May 15, 2008, 03:36 PM
I attempt to take over the world on a daily basis. I'm almost there.
Natsu
May 16, 2008, 08:12 AM
thanks guys, as a high school student, i dont really need all those intense graphic work and I dont plan on playing games too so I'll stick to the macbook series.
iTronz
May 16, 2008, 08:18 AM
I use mine for everything now, its replaced my desktop which was a pretty fast machine for what I did but I prefer OSX so I use the MacBook in clamshell mode.
I use it for.... Web browsing, downloading, adium, itunes, photoshop, dreamweaver, flash, firework, pages and VMware fusion which runs XP and I use powerpoint and excel in unity mode.
Macbook is very good for all this, I just need an external drive. But I plan on buying a Mac Mini if a new one is released any time soon.
Hawkeye411
May 16, 2008, 08:23 AM
I use mine as a computer :confused:
websyndicate
May 16, 2008, 08:53 AM
I use mine for school. I go to technical school and I use Parallels and VMware for my Windows Server 2003 configurations, Windows XP and Linux administration. Work pretty well I use it when I travel to off load pictures from my Rebel. I run Final Cut Express, Aperture 2.0, Lightroom, and Adobe CS3. With a 100GB 7200rpm Hard drive with 16mb cache and 2gb of Ram Its a a Core Duo. It handles fine for me
Natsu
May 16, 2008, 10:55 AM
I run Final Cut Express, Aperture 2.0, Lightroom, and Adobe CS3. With a 100GB 7200rpm Hard drive with 16mb cache and 2gb of Ram Its a a Core Duo. It handles fine for me
You can run aperture 2 on a macbook? I've heard that its impossible to run aperture cuz of the dedicated graphic card.
Qwest905
May 16, 2008, 11:02 AM
You can run aperture 2 on a macbook? I've heard that its impossible to run aperture cuz of the dedicated graphic card.
aperture works fine on my macbook
MacHappytjg
May 16, 2008, 11:44 AM
Just a casual user on the Macbook, surfing, chatting etc.
Most of the intensive stuff like Photoshop and gaming is done on the desktop.
i do it all on my low end 1st gen macbook
krye
May 16, 2008, 12:04 PM
aperture works fine on my macbook
Yeh, but how big is your database?
Qwest905
May 16, 2008, 12:12 PM
12gb worth of pictures
Shadow
May 16, 2008, 12:53 PM
In Boot Camp on a 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM, GMA950 machine, I can run Homeworld 2, the most epic game ever.
It was 4 constant hours of Homeworld 2 that made half of the bottom case of my macbook crack and turn yellow from heat. I'm talking 9 square inches of cracks, not just one or two piddly lines.
Moral of the story? The Macbook cannot withstand manufacturer's intended use.
I dont want to call you a liar, but I've used C&C3 on my MacBook in XP for hours without any damage at all.
ZiggyPastorius
May 16, 2008, 01:04 PM
I dont want to call you a liar, but I've used C&C3 on my MacBook in XP for hours without any damage at all.
+1. I run it in Mac OS X for hours with no problems whatsoever.
XP Defector
May 16, 2008, 11:05 PM
Yeh, but how big is your database?
Touching 15GB here of RAW...
Minimum System Requirements
* One of the following Mac computers:
o Mac Pro
o MacBook Pro
o MacBook Air
o MacBook
o Mac mini with an Intel Core Solo or Duo processor
o iMac with a 1.8GHz or faster PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor
o Power Mac G5 with a 1.6GHz or faster PowerPC G5 processor
o 15- or 17-inch PowerBook G4 with a 1.25GHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor
Natsu
May 16, 2008, 11:20 PM
wow, so if you work on your macbook too much, it heats up and can create cracks? so is there any ways to solve that problem, like buying a cooler or something that cools down the macbook?
XP Defector
May 17, 2008, 01:08 AM
wow, so if you work on your macbook too much, it heats up and can create cracks? so is there any ways to solve that problem, like buying a cooler or something that cools down the macbook?
I think they fixed this with the latest models, can't be sure though. Cracking cases seems quite a common problem for MacBooks as far as technical faults go. Mine cracked after about 5 months of use on aggregate, though it was sitting in a box for a over yea whilst I was over seas.
H$R
May 17, 2008, 03:16 PM
standard stuff: internet surfing, listening to music, storing and watching videos/pictures. editing with photoshop and sometiems cutting a bit video. handles everything pretty good, but I think I still will be upgrading to 4 gb ram sometime.
MacHappytjg
May 17, 2008, 04:19 PM
mine gets hot to fast on xp when im playing a game otherwise on osx runs fine using say flash cs3, itunes, firefox, msn, and possiby word 2008 all on my 768mb of ram :(
websyndicate
Oct 30, 2008, 03:26 PM
You can run aperture 2 on a macbook? I've heard that its impossible to run aperture cuz of the dedicated graphic card.
Yes I can and it runs fine. I use Adobe lightroom and CS3 Photoshop.
I was looking through old post and saw this.
borjasanz
Oct 30, 2008, 03:40 PM
In Boot Camp on a 2.0ghz, 1GB RAM, GMA950 machine, I can run Homeworld 2, the most epic game ever.
It was 4 constant hours of Homeworld 2 that made half of the bottom case of my macbook crack and turn yellow from heat. I'm talking 9 square inches of cracks, not just one or two piddly lines.
Moral of the story? The Macbook cannot withstand manufacturer's intended use.
You think you can show us some pics? Please.
Thanks
sangosimo
Oct 30, 2008, 04:14 PM
I don't do any advanced computing task. playing 720p/1080p is probably the most intensive or running oses in virtual box.
phobic99
Oct 30, 2008, 05:21 PM
I use mine as a computer :confused:
Yeah me too. Actually, I'm going to be using my new macbook as my main computer and obviously for when I'm going on trips. The quad-core gaming monster I have now is going on another desk so I'll still have it if I ever need to go anything "major".
ZDDP1273
Oct 30, 2008, 05:23 PM
I mostly use mine for school, Internet, and listening to music occasionally. Nothing major.
The Samurai
Oct 30, 2008, 05:31 PM
University, e-mail, music, movies... the full lot basically. Its my only machine and its taken everything i've thrown at it so far.
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