Apple's Next MacBook Due in Q3 2008?

[CWallace]

The only flaw to this argument is that the brick and mortar Apple stores only service about 5 to 10% of all Apple users. Most of the US and all international users don't have a convenient Apple store near them.

But it's still an option for some folks and it's an option that is well-received by them.


Also Apple charges an additional $250 for 3 years of phone and warranty support where as dell and toshiba generally includes 3 years of support in the price.

On their "business lines", yes. Their "consumer lines" are usually one-year, same as Apple. And that extra support is factored into the higher cost of the "business line" machine, even when it has identical specs (and even components) to the "consumer line" model.


I agree to a point. But for $500 more? I just don't see the value in that. Fortunately there isn't a 50% premium/OSX tax on the Mac Pro desktops which I consider an excellent value and will be purchasing soon.

It is true that value is in the eye of the beholder. In my case, every day I work with Windows is another day I come to appreciate OS X that much more. :)

[gadgetguy08]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but would stainless steel not be like five times heavier than aluminum?

[Davy Rocket]

and this is why apple rocks. :apple:

[Teclis]

In my case, every day I work with Windows is another day I come to appreciate OS X that much more. :)


Agreed. The first time i tried OS X, I could swear I heard angels sing. :rolleyes:
I will never buy a windows machine again. (No offense to windows people. Ignorance is bliss :D)

[marbles]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but would stainless steel not be like five times heavier than aluminum?



And so what if it is ... ...come on !!

Wouldn't you rather have something that is sturdy , well built and most important durable ?

I just don't get the fascination with small and light computers , I'm partially disabled just now ( due to RTA some years ago) but I would definitely have no issue carting round a computer that was a bit heavier ....especially if it was because the materials used where more durable !

[targat]

That is cool. And this would mean our late 2007 MacBook would absolutely obsolete. :(

[Teclis]

And so what if it is ... ...come on !!

Wouldn't you rather have something that is sturdy , well built and most important durable ?

I just don't get the fascination with small and light computers , I'm partially disabled just now ( due to RTA some years ago) but I would definitely have no issue carting round a computer that was a bit heavier ....especially if it was because the materials used where more durable !

I like the aluminum notebooks just the way they are. They're absolutley great! Notebooks are supposed to be portable and nok bulky and heavy. Buy a Panasonic Toughbook.:rolleyes: Apple could sure make a sweet model, but the should definetly not replace the current aluminum models with stainless steel.

[marbles]

I like the aluminum notebooks just the way they are. They're absolutley great! Notebooks are supposed to be portable and nok bulky and heavy. Buy a Panasonic Toughbook.:rolleyes: Apple could sure make a sweet model, but the should definetly not replace the current aluminum models with stainless steel.

I like the look of them too but the sad fact is that they are not very durable .

Yes notebooks are meant to be portable ... an extra couple of pounds for added durability though shouldn't be a problem for anyone..if it is you need to go the gym more ;)

If the toughbook ran OSX I would !

So to recap ....
I personally wouldn't mind what Apple laptops are made of as long as they where more durable than they currently are .

[k2spitfire88]

I like the look of them too but the sad fact is that they are not very durable .

Yes notebooks are meant to be portable ... an extra couple of pounds for added durability though shouldn't be a problem for anyone..if it is you need to go the gym more ;)

If the toughbook ran OSX I would !

So to recap ....
I personally wouldn't mind what Apple laptops are made of as long as they where more durable than they currently are .

I guess you will have to keep waiting for that cast iron macbook than, right? ;) :rolleyes:

[Laco]

I like the look of them too but the sad fact is that they are not very durable .

Yes notebooks are meant to be portable ... an extra couple of pounds for added durability though shouldn't be a problem for anyone..if it is you need to go the gym more ;)

If the toughbook ran OSX I would !

So to recap ....
I personally wouldn't mind what Apple laptops are made of as long as they where more durable than they currently are .

If they were to increase the weight my next mac laptop would be the air for sure. Weight and size are very important to me.

I feel like I'm the only one who likes the design of the Macbook anymore.

[teasphere]

I admit, i overreacted a bit, and I do apologize, and he is entitled to his own opinion. However, I just think that it would not make sense for them to use the Atom processor in the MB, but it may make sense in a smaller, multitouch device (future iPhones, etc.) That seems to be what makes the most sense to me. Again, apologies for over overreacting! :o

Thanks for the apology, yes your reaction was a bit extreme... however in response to the others who came to my defense, I'm certainly not a kid. I have been a system designer for over 14 years and currently run a fairly large University network. I have thick skin.

Look, I could flog the same crap that everyone likes to debate ad nauseum: ~$1k tower, BD, They are too expensive/no they're not, Should I buy/oh, crap I just bought one and now new ones came out, etc.

I didn't. I tried to bring something new up for discussion. Sure, I understand they are single core. Sure Apples doesn't outwardly "care" about price. BUT, Atom is actually very well suited to the average Joe and their needs which is light use, heavy web use, word processing, photos, and very long battery life. All of which Atom could do at a substantial price savings, space savings, etc. Will it happen? who knows. To take it one step further, maybe they will simply make the lowest end MB Atom based, and then step up the middle and top edition to Montevina.

The thing is that right now the product line is becoming to homogenous. So a 15" screen and a video card will now be all that define "Pro." There is a certain point which we are approaching quickly where Apple has to switch focus from a design company who makes computers to a computer company with great design, regardless if they or you differ in opinion. A natural progression will be a lower priced laptop and a lower priced expandable desktop/tower. Sure, right now it doesn't make sense and they do not have the resources to support such an architecture, but they soon will, they will have to regardless if they make the move to lower realms or not.

Everyone is entitled to opinions, I enjoy discussing technology, I don't have a need to be right nor do I feel the need to defend or become fiercely loyal to any company. I am happily looking forward to owning my first OS X Mac, will I ever blindly back or defend Apple? Nope.

[marbles]

I feel like I'm the only one who likes the design of the Macbook anymore.


no your not ... I like it for sure , I owned one a while back ...nice looking machine ...its the durability that I have problems with.

Functionality over form for me ...ie: something strong and sturdy which runs OSX
....I'm just a practical guy & appreciate good build quality and will be happy to pay for it ...(which we do when buying Mac)

...just the BQ is not all that at the moment from what I am reading on the web ......don't bash me!! .

I love Apple machines but something is a bit 'off' at the moment with regards to QC

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I guess you will have to keep waiting for that cast iron macbook than, right? ;) :rolleyes:

hehe yeah :) Don't get me wrong guys I do love Apple and have only ever used OSX !

[Teclis]

I feel like I'm the only one who likes the design of the Macbook anymore.

Of cours, you are not, my friend! personally i love the design too. it's brilliant! Magnetic closing and everything. i love it, although i am looking forward to seeing the new design.

By the way, a little off topic: check out this clip on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cxbstn2IZM :rolleyes:

[MikeTheC]

I guess my question here is who really wants another metal notebook from Apple?

Having owned both an iBook G3/600 and a PowerBook G4/1.5, I really just don't know if I'd ever want to go back to metal again.

Of course, that makes the assumption that my next computer would be a laptop, but that's a whole other story.

By the way, a little off topic: check out this clip on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cxbstn2IZM :rolleyes:

Awesome!

Favorite line: "[Announcer 1]: The PC is still trying to shut down. [Announcer 2]: We may be here all night." Heh heh heh...

[Teclis]

i know :p

MikeTheC I guess my question here is who really wants another metal notebook from Apple?

Having owned both an iBook G3/600 and a PowerBook G4/1.5, I really just don't know if I'd ever want to go back to metal again.



-i agree. i also like the fact that there are two totally different designs to choose between in adittion to specs. i also like the keybord on MB better than MBP.



By the way, a little off topic: check out this clip on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cxbstn2IZM :rolleyes:

You might want to click "view in high quality," below the Views count.

[Digital Skunk]

I have to say that personally, most people that don't like the keyboard on one machine versus another must not type very often. I guess I just get used to them pretty fast.

If I had to take a pick, then it's be the MBP only because it doesn't have cheap plastic keys, but honestly, while everyone else is whining over keyboards, I will say that I want a new Apple notebook that has some true performance in it. And some great battery life.

Bickering over plastic and metal is cute, but I hope Apple stops under-clocking the GFX cards and adds some extra FIREWIRE ports, not USB.

As for those that have had problems with metal cases and WiFi signals, you are in a very small group. There were problems with the PBG4 wifi cards but the reception wasn't that bad. With the MBP Apple fixed it in more ways then one. Getting a metal case from Apple now isn't that big of a deal.

[MikeTheC]

Bickering over plastic and metal is cute, but I hope Apple stops under-clocking the GFX cards and adds some extra FIREWIRE ports, not USB.
Sadly, dear Digital Skunk, you misunderstand my comment.

Metal cases are stylish and all, but having owned one I far prefer a polycarbonate case. It seems more durable (cosmetically, that is), and the whole thing isn't some kind of radiator. There's nothing worse than having a mobile computer and not being able to set it one's lap because it's just too d*mn hot.

[samkupo]

this is doing my head in, I really want to get a mac but if I buy one now and then 1 month later a new design comes out im going to be pissed.

I will have to sell my current laptop after I've ordered a macbook but I don't want my new macbook to be reduced in value when the redesign comes out with maybe better screens and better spec.

is it worth waiting for it or just jumping in now? I'm really impatient but this will annoy me to the point where I end up selling the macbook to get the redesign.

if only I could like... rent a laptop whilst waiting for the new designs to come out? lol

[Teclis]

Metal cases are stylish and all, but having owned one I far prefer a polycarbonate case. It seems more durable (cosmetically, that is), and the whole thing isn't some kind of radiator. There's nothing worse than having a mobile computer and not being able to set it one's lap because it's just too d*mn hot.

I really agree in the temerature issue, allthough I don't know the heat difference in polycarbonet vs. aluminum. But i think we all can say that laptops that go to meltdown teperature at avarage is really irritating.
Once i even borrowed an HP-laptop from a friend that, and it was so hot that you had to take a cooldown pause for your fingers because the mousepad held such an extreme temperature.

[marcg007]

I like the look of them too but the sad fact is that they are not very durable .

Yes notebooks are meant to be portable ... an extra couple of pounds for added durability though shouldn't be a problem for anyone..if it is you need to go the gym more ;)

If the toughbook ran OSX I would !

So to recap ....
I personally wouldn't mind what Apple laptops are made of as long as they where more durable than they currently are .

Speaking as someone with a bad back, who has to carry a textbook that weighs 6 pounds by itself, I would be just as happy if the laptops didn't get any heavier than they are now. One of the great things about the 12inch powerbook was that it managed to stay under the 5 pound mark and it isn't bulky or too wide like and underpowered like the Air. Don't get me wrong, I like the Air but I wish it had a smaller footprint and could take more than 2GBs of RAM. The 12 inch powerbook which I am typing this on is great because it has a full sized keyboard and doesn't take up much space in my book bag. I would love to see an MB, MBP, or MBA in a form factor like this one that could take 3 or even 4GBs of RAM and weighed a pound less than it does which would bring it under 4 pounds. Heck, if the current line of Macbooks weighed less than 5 pounds, I would probably get one but when I think about the fact that they are 5.4LBs, my textbook for just one class is 6LBs, and my actual notebook and other textbooks could mean I am carrying around 20LBs, that is just too much.

[marbles]

Speaking as someone with a bad back, who has to carry a textbook that weighs 6 pounds by itself, I would be just as happy if the laptops didn't get any heavier than they are now. One of the great things about the 12inch powerbook was that it managed to stay under the 5 pound mark and it isn't bulky or too wide like and underpowered like the Air. Don't get me wrong, I like the Air but I wish it had a smaller footprint and could take more than 2GBs of RAM. The 12 inch powerbook which I am typing this on is great because it has a full sized keyboard and doesn't take up much space in my book bag. I would love to see an MB, MBP, or MBA in a form factor like this one that could take 3 or even 4GBs of RAM and weighed a pound less than it does which would bring it under 4 pounds. Heck, if the current line of Macbooks weighed less than 5 pounds, I would probably get one but when I think about the fact that they are 5.4LBs, my textbook for just one class is 6LBs, and my actual notebook and other textbooks could mean I am carrying around 20LBs, that is just too much.


I hear you , I mentioned in a thread ( not sure if it was this one or not) that I had a RTA a few years ago which has left me partially disabled.

The weight does not bother me as I don't have to carry anything else around with me except the notebook
....surely for your situation the Air would be perfect as I imagine it is way more powerful than the machine that you are on currently , even with it's current specifications.

I hope you don't ake me in the wrong way ( I'm not too good at getting myself across using text just yet.The thing is I just want to be able to buy a machine that I can trust not to dent, crack, etc ..that's all :)

[Digital Skunk]

Sadly, dear Digital Skunk, you misunderstand my comment.

Metal cases are stylish and all, but having owned one I far prefer a polycarbonate case. It seems more durable (cosmetically, that is), and the whole thing isn't some kind of radiator. There's nothing worse than having a mobile computer and not being able to set it one's lap because it's just too d*mn hot.

Oh no, I get you and agree about the heat. I am just more worried about Apple taking away more functionality and under-clocking more CPUs then the case. I don't mind the poly cases either, having loved my "stolen" iBook G4, and finding the MBs far more durable than the MBPs.

[SodiumBenzoate]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but would stainless steel not be like five times heavier than aluminum?

yeah, but the computer certainly wouldn't be five times heavier :)

[echosmyron]

this is doing my head in, I really want to get a mac but if I buy one now and then 1 month later a new design comes out im going to be pissed.

I will have to sell my current laptop after I've ordered a macbook but I don't want my new macbook to be reduced in value when the redesign comes out with maybe better screens and better spec.

is it worth waiting for it or just jumping in now? I'm really impatient but this will annoy me to the point where I end up selling the macbook to get the redesign.

if only I could like... rent a laptop whilst waiting for the new designs to come out? lol im in the same situation as this guy.

[teebs]

With this new update that is supposed to be coming in 3Q of this year, will there be a price drop in the macbook and macbook pro lines? Is this common for apple to drop pricing while upgrading systems? If so, approx. what is the average drop?
thanks

[Laco]

With this new update that is supposed to be coming in 3Q of this year, will there be a price drop in the macbook and macbook pro lines? Is this common for apple to drop pricing while upgrading systems? If so, approx. what is the average drop?
thanks

prices never increase or decrease.

[Mal]

prices never increase or decrease.

Correction: Prices rarely increase or decrease. It does happen, but only with major changes or if they introduce a new low or high end model. I wouldn't really expect it this time around, but it'd be nice if it does happen.

jW

[Teclis]

I am kinda disoriented. MacRumors.com says that the new processors on the notebooks will be from 2.26GHz to 3.06GHz.

Appleinsider.com says that that processors will be form 2.26 to 2.8.

Anyone knows which one it is?

[Mal]

Anyone knows which one it is?

No. No one knows yet, because they haven't been released. That's why this site is called MacRumors, not MacNews.

jW

[Teclis]

No. No one knows yet, because they haven't been released. That's why this site is called MacRumors, not MacNews.

Ouch! :p

[CWallace]

According to Intel's roadmaps of upcoming mobile Penryns for the Montevina platform, the fastest dual-core will be the X9100 at 3.06GHz, followed by the 2.8GHz T9600, 2.53GHz T9400/P9500, 2.4GHz P8600 and the 2.26GHz P8400.

There will also be the quad-core QX9300 running at (last I heard) 2.53GHz.

[suprneb]

does this update involve the mbp? or just the regular macbooks?

[marbles]

According to Intel's roadmaps of upcoming mobile Penryns for the Montevina platform, the fastest dual-core will be the X9100 at 3.06GHz, followed by the 2.8GHz T9600, 2.53GHz T9400/P9500, 2.4GHz P8600 and the 2.26GHz P8400.

There will also be the quad-core QX9300 running at (last I heard) 2.53GHz.


interesting , if this is the case I reckon that the 3.06Ghz will go in the MBP with some funky graphics card as standard ,this machine will also have a 17" monitor (glossy or matte choice ) 2Gb RAM .


The2.8Ghz will go in the 15" MBP OR the high end macbook as a BTO option , the 2.53 will be the standard macbook config CPU , the 2.4 slips to the low end macbook which will hopefully ( Oh please) include a superdrive.

the quad will probably go in the MacPro or some new super new MBP on roids


:rolleyes:
obviously i hear you say

[ubercool]

prices never increase or decrease.

I hate to tell you guys but laptops are becoming more expensive. Component prices are rising, i.e. LCDs, batteries, because Chinese factories are charging more due to rising wages.

That explains why ASUS was not able to deliver its Eee for anything near its announced price.

Enjoy these prices, they will definitely not come down. :eek:

[fisforeric]

I believe the a new revamped MBP will be announced/released some time this summer, for the following reasons:

1) Being that this is the largest graduating class of high school seniors in over a decade and that Mac dominates on college campuses, it seems only wise the MBP be released before the start of fall quarter. Wide-eyed, newly admitted, college freshmen will drop thousands in a heartbeat for the latest and greatest. Especially if mommy and daddy see it as an educational necessity.

2) With the 3G iPhone right on the horizon, Mac wouldn't want to drown the sales of their new MBP in the onslaught of iPhone buyers.

That being said, I think it would be a prime time to release a new MBP, maybe during WWDC but definitely before Oct. (which I hope they do!!):D

[NT1440]

I believe the a new revamped MBP will be announced/released some time this summer, for the following reasons:

1) Being that this is the largest graduating class of high school seniors in over a decade and that Mac dominates on college campuses, it seems only wise the MBP be released before the start of fall quarter. Wide-eyed, newly admitted, college freshmen will drop thousands in a heartbeat for the latest and greatest. Especially if mommy and daddy see it as an educational necessity.

2) With the 3G iPhone right on the horizon, Mac wouldn't want to drown the sales of their new MBP in the onslaught of iPhone buyers.

That being said, I think it would be a prime time to release a new MBP, maybe during WWDC but definitely before Oct. (which I hope they do!!):D

hate to break it to you but this is the MACBOOK we are tlkn about here, not the pro

[TechGirl]

hate to break it to you but this is the MACBOOK we are tlkn about here, not the pro


No reason to get riled. :rolleyes: All signs actually point to revisions coming for both at the same time, since both will be getting Montevina implemented at the same time. So talking about one is talking about the other, at least time frame wise.

[Laco]

hate to break it to you but this is the MACBOOK we are tlkn about here, not the pro

Its likely that the Pro will be updated before or at the same time as the Macbook because if it doesn't then the Pro will have a slower processor than the Macbook. That's just my nonexpert opinion.

[atarian90]

I can see that, an aluminum macbook with a 13inch LED display, multi-touch and weighing only 4 pounds will be direct competition to the Air, and the Air wouldn't stand a chance.

I don't think so. Have you checked out the MB's weight line-up?

17" MB Pro = 6.8 pounds
15" MB Pro = 5.4 pounds
13" MB === 5.2 pounds :eek:
13" MB Air = 3.0 pounds

I find it disturbing that the 15" MB Pro with a bigger screen and more power is only 0.2 pounds heavier that the much less powerful and smaller size MB. An ideal lineup would be to have each MB be a pound lighter than the previous, but that is not the case. It shows how FAR BEHIND the MB technology is - it REALLY needs updating. :(

I've been wanting to replace my iBook for a while, but whenever I pickup a MB, it feels like an anvil compared to other 13" laptops out there that weigh around 3.9-4.2 pounds. I was hoping the MB Air was my answer, but that was not to be (no optical drive, too cut down for my tastes compared to other ultraportables on the market).

As you can see, I doubt a 4 pound MB would harm the MB Air market. In fact, it would fit perfectly in the MB lineup. It's the current MB that is the outdated, out-of-place machine.

[CWallace]

American Technology Research analyst Doug Freedman reports the X4500 GPU is suffering failures in OEM notebooks. As such, Intel is having to screen their parts more stridently before they ship them which means a likely delay in shipments.

[schnb]

American Technology Research analyst Doug Freedman reports the X4500 GPU is suffering failures in OEM notebooks. As such, Intel is having to screen their parts more stridently before they ship them which means a likely delay in shipments.


There was more in this post but you took it out..
Whys this?

[luckystriked]

If a new macbook is shown at WWDC, how much time do you think it would be available for sale?

[suprneb]

I was going to buy a mbp about a month ago but then I heard that there might be an update, so I held off buying one. since I plan to go out of the country for about one and a half months in the summer (starting from about June 16) I was debating whether I should buy one before or after my trip. it plan so far was to wait until WWDC and see if a new mbp is announced and buy one hopefully a few days after its announced but before I leave. but now, after todays news about the montevina delay, I dont think there is any chance I'm going to buy a mbp that has the update, so now what I'm worried about is whether I will be too disappointed if i get the current model and the new specs are SIGNIFICANTLY better. so my question I'd what are the biggest and most different changes that could possibly be made in the new mbp.

[rjp]

I can back that WiFi Reception statement up. While waiting in line at Boston's New Store Yesterday, I have a Macbook, 2 people next to me had a MBP and a MacBook Air. Neither of them could connect to the Store's Wifi, and I could get a full 4 bars on the next block :)

Same here. I own both the MB and MBP and the MB wifi performance is vastly better (10dB). Everything I've read suggests the conductive aluminum case is the reason for the poorer performance on the MBP and MBA. Apple has compensated for this putting the antenna in the rubber section on the screen hinge. It works well, but not as good as a MB.

Why this big rush to make everything aluminum at the same time we are trying to make everything wireless? These are contradictory needs.

[Bubba Satori]

If a new macbook is shown at WWDC, how much time do you think it would be available for sale?

51 hours. :rolleyes:

[CWallace]

There was more in this post but you took it out..
Whys this?

Because I was not sure if the CPU's were not certified for US sale or it was the WiFi chipsets. But now it looks like the whole platform is being delayed until mid-July which forces my hand to buy the current MBP as I need it before then.

[SchneiderMan]

i really hope they dont wait for macworld 09 :(

[deputylove8]

All I can say, I just cant wait. Hehehe:):):):eek:

[egghead1993]

is it me or am i the only one annoyed about no new macbook, mac mini, mac tablet being announced at the WDDC

[macwang]

no. you're definitely not alone.:mad:

[dtot]

they REALLY REALLY should time it to be realeased close to the beggining of the school year. I mean I'm gonna need one and it would piss me off to see an majo update come out RIGHT after i bought one.

On the other hane, this may be their strategy to get rid of old one before the new ones come out.

[Laco]

they REALLY REALLY should time it to be realeased close to the beggining of the school year. I mean I'm gonna need one and it would piss me off to see an majo update come out RIGHT after i bought one.

On the other hane, this may be their strategy to get rid of old one before the new ones come out.

Most of the time it has very little to do with strategy. The updates correspond to intel processor releases. So there is a HUGE probability that there will be an update sometime relatively soon after mid july, whether that means just a speed bump or a whole case redesign is a completely different matter altogether.

[bellevegasj]

Most of the time it has very little to do with strategy. The updates correspond to intel processor releases. So there is a HUGE probability that there will be an update sometime relatively soon after mid july, whether that means just a speed bump or a whole case redesign is a completely different matter altogether.

man, I hope you're right. I'm holding out for an update before I buy a MPB. I'd be so disappointed to buy one now to have them updated in a month or 2. :confused:

[techtitan55]

Maybe since intel is having problems with the X4500, the macbooks will get discrete graphics?

Probably not, but it's a nice thought. With the new iphone's back, the macbook could keep using plastic. If they did switch to aluminum, that would be cool if the low-end model came in silver; and the high-end model would be in silver, white, or black.

[Tallest Skil]

On the other hane, this may be their strategy to get rid of old one before the new ones come out.

That's completely wrong. Everyone knows they do the Back-to-School sale to help their customers! The free iPods and cheaper laptops would never be replaced right away! :rolleyes:

[funkdis]

its also not like the macbook is the most up-to-date laptop out there. students can pick up a laptop with higher spec then the mac for the same price.

not all students want an average laptop, they want one that is high-end enough to easily get them through to the end of college.

[CWallace]

its also not like the macbook is the most up-to-date laptop out there. students can pick up a laptop with higher spec then the mac for the same price.

Yes, but those will be running Windows/Linux and not OS X, so Apple doesn't care.

not all students want an average laptop, they want one that is high-end enough to easily get them through to the end of college.

That is why Apple also offers the MacBook Pro. ;)

[Tallest Skil]

its also not like the macbook is the most up-to-date laptop out there. students can pick up a laptop with higher spec then the mac for the same price.

It doesn't run OS X. That will almost always be the final kicker.

[omega21]

Yes, but those will be running Windows/Linux and not OS X, so Apple doesn't care.



That is why Apple also offers the MacBook Pro. ;)

Just for the record, Linux requires even less computer power than OS X. :D
I love OS X and Linux equally- just kinna wanted to defend it a bit. :)

[CWallace]

Just for the record, Linux requires even less computer power than OS X. :D

True, but I didn't want to sleight it via omission since many folks use that OS on PCs "designed" for Windows.

[omega21]

Haha no worries. Long live them both.

[Dustman]

I wonder if it will have a video card in it instead of integrated graphics...

And come with a 15 inch screen? Oh wait.

[skye12]

Bring 'em on!

[JGowan]

yeah... and i for one totally hate silver... silver computers, silver cars, silver phones, silver electronics..... god damn silver!Just think of it as "white gold". :D

[CWallace]

Just think of it as "white gold". :D

I thought that was Platinum. :D

[cg0def]

As nice as it would be to have a TouchBook ( or whatever ) I'd believe this only when I see it. Jobs has said a couple of times before that touch panels and netbooks are more trouble than they are worth so there is a very very slim chance that Apple will add too bad ideas together in hopes to create a great one.