Confirmation of June 9th 3G iPhone Launch?

[thaitillidie]

Digging yourself deeper, huh? go get yourself a GoldVish and then you can be THAT cool guy (aka THAT a$$hole). So sorry that you're in the lower echelon of society that can't afford a GoldVish.

Like it or not, Apple's plan is to put an iPhone in the hand of every person who has a cellphone. They don't make it to only sell to a handful of individuals (but GoldVish does!), but rather want to make as much $$ as possible from it. Furthermore, ALL new phones go through the same process. Look at the RAZR and Blackberry. Alpha consumers and business users picked them up first, not caring about the high price (I had a day 1 RAZR and paid $600 for it); at this point, supplies are still low because of high manufacturing costs. Once the phone becomes popular, the company ramps up production, manufacturing costs go down, so they lower the price. Everyone wants it and everyone buys it. Meanwhile Mr. Alpha consumer buys a newer phone (I had a day 1 iPhone and paid $600 for it) and the circle of life continues.

A word of advice: Don't be so smug, arrogant, and self-absorbed...it will only hurt you in the future, whatever path of life, and GUARANTEES flaming on these forums.

PS: as far as jailbreaking is concerned...Apple was founded by 2 guys whose first business venture was phone hackery products...Apple encourages this kind of behavior (note Apple's response to jailbreaking was releasing an SDK).



You're overanalyzing, dude. My original and subsequent posting and replies have been fairly superficial. You're taking this to a level that is unwarranted.

Apple makes it money because they make EXCLUSIVE products that appeal to an EXCLUSIVE market; thusly, they can charge EXCLUSIVE prices for those EXCLUSIVE products to that EXCLUSIVE market. Go to their website. Compare their prices. CLEARLY this is what they do, have done, and will continue to do.

In this way, they don't need to appeal to a mass market or put an iphone or ANY of their products for that matter into the hands of every Tom, Dick and Harry on the planet (and at this point, of those three, I'm assuming you're a 'Dick') because they're making their money from the elevated prices they charge for their products. Or at least that's how I see it. I'm not an economics or marketing guy so I'm unable to translate this into "dollar-speak" that I'm sure would make more sense. But you get my drift.

Do you think a Macbook Pro is in the hand of every laptop owner? Do you think a Mac Pro is in the hand of every desktop owner? Moreover, do you think it was EVER Apple's intention to put these products in the hands of every aforementioned Tom, Dick and Harry? They don't need to.

Apple's loyal customers are practically willing to pay ANY price for their products because of a proven track record of quality, dependability and performance. They don't need to make their products cheaper so that more people will buy them!!

Bottom line: Apple doesn't need the stinkin' filthy money of the masses!! They've managed just fine without it so far!!! We Apple faithful shall sustain them forever and forever and forever...bwhahahaha!!!!

[Santa Rosa]

Bottom line: Apple doesn't need the stinkin' filthy money of the masses!! They've managed just fine without it so far!!! We Apple faithful shall sustain them forever and forever and forever...bwhahahaha!!!!

A fair few people have bought that iPod thing they do...

[Aznsensation45]

Wait a minute...Apple made a phone?!?!?!:confused:

[D4F]

Wait a minute...Apple made a phone?!?!?!:confused:

Well... technically no. They made a small computer than can make phone calls.

[Elsewhere]

My, that's quite an accurate GPS system you envision! In order to "pragmatically assemble" photos into a panoramic view, it'd need to know the precise location, angle of the camera, etc. Keep dreaming big, though!

It's already been done and a proof-of-concept has been demonstrated. ;)

By stitching together different images and comparing the slight angular differences, all of that information can be computationally extrapolated.

Check out this TED demo from 2007 (fast forward to 2:45):
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129

[TuffLuffJimmy]

Well... technically no. They made a small computer than can make phone calls.

and how is that not a phone? You really need to learn the definition of computer...

[jimleszczynski]

I am all for $200 cheaper!! :)

[SnakeXs]

So any guesses on if Apple's gonna have new measures against jailbreaking, and more importantly, unlocking?

Also, maybe slightly O-T, but does the current state of unlocking allow all features (visual voicemail, mainly) on all U.S. networks?

[UWSpindoctor]

It's already been done and a proof-of-concept has been demonstrated. ;)

By stitching together different images and comparing the slight angular differences, all of that information can be computationally extrapolated.

Check out this TED demo from 2007 (fast forward to 2:45):
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129

Still doesn't change the fact that GPSII can only pinpoint location to within about 9 feet.

[sananda]

So any guesses on if Apple's gonna have new measures against jailbreaking, and more importantly, unlocking?

Also, maybe slightly O-T, but does the current state of unlocking allow all features (visual voicemail, mainly) on all U.S. networks?

visual voicemail is only available with the official networks.

[Philberttheduck]

With the GPS your photos will have GPS coordinates imbedded in the metadata of your pictures. As you post them on you website Google will be able to index your photos, and everyone else's, and then pragmatically assemble all of the photos into one large panoramic view that will include the ability to extrapolate the 3D structure of builds, roads and any other landmark. People could then go to Google maps and "fly" through an area. All of this stitched together from everyone posting their pictures anywhere on the web.

There is SO much more the new iPhone will be able to do with GPS and 3G. I can't wait to see what all people come up with using the SDK!!!

Sounds like Microsoft's Photosynth (http://labs.live.com/photosynth/video.html) which is no doubt one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

[Stately]

We know . . .

[winterspan]

I'll be the prognosticating cloud of gloom. :)

Sure, 3G certainly has an overall throughput that spanks EDGE, but the existing 3G networks have HORRIBLE latency. The 3G iPhone will be a marked improvement and will continue to be the best portable internet device, but I predict a legion of whiners saying, "Not fast enough!".

Apple usually gives users what they, want; the problem is that a lot of users don't know what they want. :)

This is WRONG. Compared to EDGE, one of the PRIMARY benefits of HSDPA is a huge DECREASE IN LATENCY, in addition to the much faster speeds. Nearly every place in N. America, Europe, and Asia where UMTS is rolled out, HSDPA (and HSUPA) is also present. Quit spreading BS!

[winterspan]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

Are you 13? If you honestly believe you are "special" or "exclusive" because you own ANY product, I pity your intellect.

[Tallest Skil]

Wait a minute...Apple made a phone?!?!?!:confused:

Quit trolling. And posting pointless posts. You've only posted in iPhone threads.

[i.mac]

Wait a minute...Apple made a phone?!?!?!:confused:

This was funny the first hundred times... it is old and annoying by now.

[Mackan]

If it indeed now gets cheaper with subsidy we can only conclude that the people who bought it in the first year were kinda ripped off.

[stephenli]

This is the end.

The major whines of most iPhone haters were no 3G and no GPS. if it has both, it's game over. There simply won't be a better phone.

For GPS, it is not necessary to built-in a GPS module.
I have tried a game on PSP using "Place Engine" (Wi-fi) for positioning. Its quite accurate actually.

but to think, what would make iPhone to be a better phone?
hardware spec? 8MP camera? LED photo light? WVGA screen? Yes but it would charge you over $900...
Let see if iPhone OS 2.0 have any giant leap...

[SodiumBenzoate]

Interesting. Should be a great phone, but I probably won't buy it.

Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I have an iPod touch and a perfectly functional phone, so I don't see the point of getting one.

[aswitcher]

I wonder how long before real pics and specs appear...

[keenan wolf]

It will probably ship to be on sale on a Friday at 6:00pm. Perhaps as far as 2 weeks after the Keynote to let the hype engine roar.

umm... are you high? yeah right iphone is :apple: big boi right now. it will ship the day after its introduced! i would put my life on it!

[keenan wolf]

For GPS, it is not necessary to built-in a GPS module.
I have tried a game on PSP using "Place Engine" (Wi-fi) for positioning. Its quite accurate actually.

but to think, what would make iPhone to be a better phone?
hardware spec? 8MP camera? LED photo light? WVGA screen? Yes but it would charge you over $900...
Let see if iPhone OS 2.0 have any giant leap...
personally im hoping for a OLED light mostly because its picture is bomb and its great on battery. also i would like 3g video confrncing and 5 mp camera thats all i need.

[Peace]

If it indeed now gets cheaper with subsidy we can only conclude that the people who bought it in the first year were kinda ripped off.


I got mine on the first day and I don't feel ripped off. Having that new toy was a joy.

And I'll feel the same when I get the 2.0.:)

[SkippyThorson]

Wait a minute...Apple made a phone?!?!?!:confused:

What the hell is this eye phone?

My sincerest apologies to civilization.

[PK56]

It's already been done and a proof-of-concept has been demonstrated. ;)

By stitching together different images and comparing the slight angular differences, all of that information can be computationally extrapolated.

Check out this TED demo from 2007 (fast forward to 2:45):
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129

Wow. I stand corrected! That is pretty astounding, and opens up all sorts of possibilities. It's gonna be down the road a few years for wide-scale adoption, but still. Thanks for the pointer to the TED demo!

[Guitar geek]

While I'm really glad that Apple's finally going to update the iPhone, I'm not going to be upgrading my current iPhone just yet. Quite excited to see what changes they make in addition to 3G, GPS, and whatnot though.

However...I just hope that the whole WWDC keynote is not all about the updated iPhone. This is what I've been worrying about. I really want to see some other upgrades to the current lineup, or if we're lucky, some new products. Hopefully this new iPhone doesn't steal the whole show, and leaves room for the Macs. :)

[xSeanZx]

So your current iPhone which you have paid in full for breaks down or gets stolen. Sorry, your going to have to get a new contract out to get a new one. Just doesn't work like that. I see where you are coming from with your argument, but looking at it like that it seems you could just get the new 3G iPhone and carry on with your contract after a soft activation.


In your first bit of your post to be a smartass , you failed.

The fact is, his idea is right. I know this because it happened with me. I had to swap my iphone out for a new one, and when I did, my 2-year contract started over from that day I activated my new one. Yes, I used the same SIM card.

This is why I think that if you were to get a new 3G iPhone, your contract would not be terminated really, just be started over from that day of activation. It makes sense.

[PowerFullMac]

I hope they sell it on pay as you go and on contract, too, then it can be like all other phones, free on contract and £200 on pay as you go, or Apple may sell it unlocked if the carriers give it for a reduced price or for free.

[fuzzielitlpanda]

June 9 will be the release date. A friend of mine works at AT&T corporate

wahoo i posted this on april 28th! anyways, the news doesn't really affect me since i don't and probably won't be owning an iphone anytime soon.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:


Ummm.... have you ever been to these forums when a new product is released and people just bought the older model a few weeks/days previous?

It's like Apple can't please you fanboys. They sell an old product right up to the DAY of a major update without warning, and you all get the torches and pitchforks demanding refunds and saying how it's "unfair" apple sold you the old model when a new one was just hours away.

So now, they drain their stock of an obsolete iPhone so they can't sell any just weeks/days before a TOTALLY new model comes out, and you cry again? They try to prevent people from buying iPhone1 when just around the corner iPhone2 will be out for the same or lower price, and you're confused?

Sounds like this forum needs a spray to the crotch of "sandy-vag-be-gone."

You missed the point of my post. Here read it again -

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:


That was the point. Apple has never done anything like this before. I m confused if this was intentional or a screw up. Hard to believe it was intentional. A couple of weeks might have been understandable but this is more than a month. I was hoping new iPhone to be released last tuesday or atleast this tuesday. But now it seems we`ll be waiting 3 more weeks before any sign of iPhone.

And BTW any fanboy who buys an apple product which is anticipated to be refreshed very soon DOES NOT deserve to be called Apple Fanboy. :o

[Santa Rosa]

Sounds like this forum needs a spray to the crotch of "sandy-vag-be-gone."

The forum has a crotch :confused:

[michaelsviews]

wahoo i posted this on april 28th! anyways, the news doesn't really affect me since i don't and probably won't be owning an iphone anytime soon.


Gee my AT&T rep still says May, wonder if he's referring or confusing the release of the BB9000 3G model thats coming out.

I like the 200 dollars off deal with AT&T, yea you have to do the 2 yr or you could do the pay as you go which a co-worker is doing right now and it works for him

[tallyho]

You missed the point of my post. Here read it again -

That was the point. Apple has never done anything like this before.
This has been mentioned before...iMac G4 -> G5 Summer 2004. You must have a short memory...


And BTW any fanboy who buys an apple product which is anticipated to be refreshed very soon DOES NOT deserve to be called Apple Fanboy. :o
If you can't remember the great summer-of-no-imacs, then you ain't no fanboy either :rolleyes:

[Santa Rosa]

This has been mentioned before...iMac G4 -> G5 Summer 2004. You must have a short memory...


If you can't remember the great summer-of-no-imacs, then you ain't no fanboy either :rolleyes:

Served!!!

The Great Summer Of No Imacs: Thats brilliant, conjures up images of people sunbathing, eating ice creams all with an expression of confusion as to where all the iMacs have gone to :)

[gmoney550]

This has been mentioned before...iMac G4 -> G5 Summer 2004. You must have a short memory...

Wow your comparing imacs from 4 years ago to today's iphones. Today's iPhones are selling much more than imacs from 4 years ago. Apple is losing a lot of money and iphone sales that Apple would have generated if they hadn't intentionally caused this shortage. That said, Apple is building up hype for the 2nd gen iPhone, and I think they will make up what they had lost for the month of May shortly after the new iPhone is launched

[earnjam]

In your first bit of your post to be a smartass , you failed.

The fact is, his idea is right. I know this because it happened with me. I had to swap my iphone out for a new one, and when I did, my 2-year contract started over from that day I activated my new one. Yes, I used the same SIM card.

ummm...no.

I had mine replaced back in November. It still says contract ends on 6/29/2009.

Thanks for playing though.

[Pwned]

I have noticed there have been no statement retractions since the story broke yesterday! The more time that passes without a retraction the more we can put a small amount of stock in it IMHO.

[djcj]

Perhaps the 3G iPhone is being hyped even more than the original was. At the cost of poorer battery life, a thicker bezel, and other features, I think the 3G iPhone might not have the same appeal. It will be interesting to see what they have developed for the 2nd generation iPhone.

[Nym]

Humm, ok, new iPhone coming in June...

Off Topic
Where would you guys go if you wanted to sell a barely used 32Gb iPod Touch?

I never sold anything online so if you can give me some pointers I'd be very much appreciated :)

Anyway, moaners and whiners spent the last year complaining about what the iPhone "doesn't have" and putting it down compared to their "Nokias". My opinion is: they missed the point.

Look at it this way, it only took Apple one phone to shake the industry more than Nokia ever shook in 20 years of making cellphones. IMO The first iPhone was a market test. It's the new version that will surely cause some serious competition.

[Pwned]

Nym:
I'd go with Craiglist and stay away from Ebay. Obviously this is just my opinion but I have had horrible Ebay experiences and good craigslist ones.

[rtsnatrts]

"Apple hasn't lost any sales really"...well actually they have. i work with teens and i can tell you the number that are getting new phones for graduation = A LOT. had apple planned on releasing the 3G iphone say, early May, they would have cleaned up. this isn't the wii where folks are simply waiting for that exact product. parents aren't sold on or can't find the iphone, so they go buy a smartphone. can you imagine the sales if during the last month of school the big buzz around the hallways was everybody's new iphone?? astronomical!!!

this was not smart buildup. no iphones to sell is no iphones to sell. while there are those, ahem, who are waiting for the iphone such that their treo700 can get thrown against a brick wall, not everybody is fully sold on the superiority of apple products (for the most part).

and let's look at apple's history...they've only goofed when ego affected product development or ego affected business direction, otherwise they are amazing. i love them to death, but that doesn't mean they do everything right. this one was a goof, i have to think even apple thinks so...maybe they just couldn't get it all rolling in time, for circumstances beyond their control.

[GutBomb]

Humm, ok, new iPhone coming in June...

Off Topic
Where would you guys go if you wanted to sell a barely used 32Gb iPod Touch?

I never sold anything online so if you can give me some pointers I'd be very much appreciated :)




Use ebay, and set buyer restrictions such as: Buy it now must be paid for immediately, require all bidders to have a paypal account attached to the account, and require bidders to be in one of the countries you mark that you ship to. Other than the bidding restrictions mentioned, also make sure to only ship to COMFIRMED paypal addresses (the email you get when the buyer pays will tell you if the address is confirmed or not. If it is not confirmed there is a chance this person was able to get access to someone else's paypal account and put their own address in there.)

The bad parts of selling electronics on ebay are the scammers that try to fool you into thinking they have paid and trying to get you to ship to nigeria. Those 3 buyer restrictions (which are simple checkboxes on the sell item page) weed out 99% of ebay scammers.

Craigslist on the other hand can be very sketchy. You never know who you could be dealing with, and while the same can be said for ebay, craigslist transactions usually end up with some face to face exchange, and there's just too much that can go wrong in a situation like that. Plus there's no buyer or seller protection, no 3rd party (such as paypal and ebay) logging the transaction. It's just less safe all around.

[Quillz]

I personally thought it may have been released early. It's just strange that Apple would go for so long being out of stock of iPhones.

[txr0ckabilly]

ummm...no.

I had mine replaced back in November. It still says contract ends on 6/29/2009.

Thanks for playing though.

i just got off the phone with at&t (small business so i don't know if that effects anything).

i lost my iPhone 3 weeks ago in a bar fight and had to call at&t and suspend the number. (too bad the "wipe feature" wasn't installed from the beginning) i asked the rep then if i would have to restart a contract when i purchased my new iPhone. he said no, and to go through normal activation through itunes, then call small business back and have them update the sim card info over the phone.

i found about the new iPhone and decided to wait and see (3 weeks without an iPhone has been torture) what and when they would be coming out. (3 more weeks of torture?)

i decided to call back today to make sure the info i received before was accurate. once i again i was informed to activate and phone in itunes, call the sim info in and my contract would just continue as before- no new or restart.

if you have an older iphone that you are thinking of selling, you might want to call and report it lost or stolen first- just an idea

[GutBomb]

if you have an older iphone that you are thinking of selling, you might want to call and report it lost or stolen first- just an idea

This kind of screws the person you sell the phone to. AT&T deactivates phones that it thinks are lost or stolen.

[txr0ckabilly]

This kind of screws the person you sell the phone to. AT&T deactivates phones that it thinks are lost or stolen.

i doubt that- they cancel the service- the person can activate on itunes with a new at&t sim or the sim out of their old at&t phone. i guarantee the person with my phone is using it now. i even called and left messages on the phone for two days offering them a 100 dollar reward to return it before i suspended the service.

at&t isn't capable of bricking the phone nor would they want to, they acquire another two year contract.

[sananda]

i doubt that- they cancel the service- the person can activate on itunes with a new at&t sim or the sim out of their old at&t phone. i guarantee the person with my phone is using it now. i even called and left messages on the phone for two days offering them a 100 dollar reward to return it before i suspended the service.

at&t isn't capable of bricking the phone nor would they want to, they acquire another two year contract.

i should imagine they disable the phone (by reference to its IMEI) rather than merely disable the SIM.

[GutBomb]

i should imagine they disable the phone (by reference to its IMEI) rather than merely disable the SIM.

Yeah this is how they manage all stolen or lost phones, iphones or not. By disable i mean blacklist the IMEI on their network so if the phone pops up AT&T's network they refuse to provide service.

[ImNoSuperMan]

This has been mentioned before...iMac G4 -> G5 Summer 2004. You must have a short memory...
If you can't remember the great summer-of-no-imacs, then you ain't no fanboy either :rolleyes:

Unfortunately I bought my first Mac in late 2005. Before that all I knew bout Macs was the colorful translucent iMacs(or eMacs was it?) and the apple shaped notebooks with an upside down apple logo. But in any case thanks for increasing my knowledge bout Macs.

Also as another poster pointed out iPhone is way bigger than iMac ever was or could ever be.

But now I think I`ve realized why Apple has discontinued manufacturing the current iPhones. I was really stupid not to understand this earlier. They are launching 3G iPhone worldwide simultaneously(may be with a difference of 2-4 weeks in launch dates). So they are going to need lots an lots of iPhone for these launches. Quite possibly 3G iPhone will be offered unlocked too. And in any case the demand for 2G iPhone never really exceeded the supply coz of it being locked and available in only a few markets.

Now Apple is really confident bout the 3G iPhone demands. They think it`s demand will easily exceed the supply. So they are just producing as many 3G iPhones as they can before the launch hoping they`ll easily sell out. So in a way Apple is not losing any sale et al. They`d be in a losing situation if they had to rest the chinese factories during this period. But in complete contrast the Chinese factories might be working overtime with the 3G iPhones. So in the end Apple will still sell as many iPhones as they were able to produce. So nothing lost there. Also as the added bonus their will be no returns of old iPhones after the 3G launch and the unavailability is also helping fuel the 3G iPhone hype. I have to admit no matter where Apple stands as a company it`s the best as far as marketing goes.

[Marvin1379]

Hmm, lessons learned from previous releases...I think I'll be waiting until my Verizon contract is over before buying an 3G iPhone. I think by December, all the bugs will be worked out, and who knows, by then there may be an even bigger capacity iPhone! There's no prize for adopting early! I make fun of everyone that waited in line for the 4 gig iPhone, as well as those who can't do simple product research to know when the next model is coming out!

I'm not really mean, I just don't tolerate stupidity! :-)

I agree with you in theory. There are a few particular features that would propt me to buy now as opposed to the next minor hardware upgrade. For example, if the capacities are the same as they are now, i will wait. If they come out with a 32gb model now, it's on!

[mtfield]

I've been trying to keep as up to date on this subject as possible, but this time of the year has gotten very busy for me professionally and I'm sad to say I've fallen a bit behind with the rumors haha... I was wondering what is the common thought in the mac community on if the iphone 2 will be immediately available?

[ert3]

Everyone seems to be thinking June 9th.

But it is still just speculation and rumors.

[newyorksole]

ANNOUNCEMENT: June 9th

RELEASE DATE: Shortly after (June 18th?)

[zmit]

you could have searched "release date" on here using the same time it took to write the new topic that covers the same topic again and again....


for future reference ;)

[Michael CM1]

I've been trying to keep as up to date on this subject as possible, but this time of the year has gotten very busy for me professionally and I'm sad to say I've fallen a bit behind with the rumors haha... I was wondering what is the common thought in the mac community on if the iphone 2 will be immediately available?

Most likely sometime later in June than the June 9 WWDC, which will probably bring an announcement (if not, a revolt). Someone made the point that it would be a little crazy to say "iPhones are on sale now!" while a bunch of your customers are at a conference like that. Apple likes to say "in two weeks" a lot, so I'm guessing mid-June.

I'm hoping the 2.0 firmware comes out that day. I could really use some non-Web apps to replace some things on here. I like tracking my gas mileage, but I hate having to log in and not being able to customize it more than this thing lets me do.

[Delta608]

November 17th, 2008.....

[isimon1207]

it will be announced hopefully june 9

when it will be available is a different question... IMO i think it will be released in Sept-Nov

[Telp]

it will be announced hopefully june 9

when it will be available is a different question... IMO i think it will be released in Sept-Nov

They will announce it and show it off june 9th, and then release it at the end of june with the 2.0 software update. I hope :)

[g8bo]

it will be announced hopefully june 9

when it will be available is a different question... IMO i think it will be released in Sept-Nov

yeah, selling 10 million phones within 4 months :rolleyes: 2.5 million a month... :rolleyes:

[sjw]

Announcement June 9th - release the next day! God I hope so.. my head would explode if they made it any later. And with an exploded head I would have no use for an iPhone :(

[wildcardd]

Release is looking more and more like June 20th or the 27th. Announcement at WWDC on the 9th.

[pranavss11]

Announcement: June 9th, Steve Jobs' Keynote.

Pre-Order on APPLE.COM: June 16th.

Release: June 23th

[woodekm]

Can you imagine everyones disappointment if it isn't announced June 9th?

//insert loud "Waa Waa Waaa Waaaaaa" trumpet sound here.


Or if Ol' Steve announces a Nov. launch?

You could probably hear hearts BREAK from around the country!

And this place would be on fire!!!!!