Confirmation of June 9th 3G iPhone Launch?

[MacRumors]

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Gizmodo claims (http://gizmodo.com/391960/iphone-3g-launch-date-confirmed) to have received confirmation from "sources close to the 3G iPhone launch" that the 3G-capable iPhone will indeed be introduced at Apple's Worldwide Developer's Conference.

The news comes as no surprise with the avalanche of evidence that has been suggesting the same. Gizmodo, however, pinpoints June 18th at the specific launch day for Spain, and expects world wide availability shortly after the June 9th WWDC launch.

They also suggest that the next iPhone will be offered with more traditional discounts and incentives rather then the fixed price point Apple had been offering with the original iPhone. No specific details have been leaked, though there have been rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/29/atandt-to-provide-200-subsidy-on-3g-iphone/) that even AT&T might offer a subsidy on the upcoming 3G iPhone.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/20/confirmation-of-june-9th-3g-iphone-launch/)

[sunfast]

Makes a lot of sense for 9th June. All the "evidence" so far has pointed at it. Let;s just hope the product gets somewhere near the hype we're currently experiencing!

[TuffLuffJimmy]

That seems like a pretty solid source.

[Island Dog]

Not really a surprise, but I hope AT&T gives a subsidy on it. I'm not dishing out another $600 less than a year later. 3G isn't that great.

[edesignuk]

Completely expected, but none the less good news. Will be eagerly awaiting 9th June to see what exactly they've got to offer :)

[Eidorian]

Please be cheaper...

[javaGuru]

wow, June 9th. What a surprise!!:)

[LillieDesigns]

I hope I can get a nice discount with an original iPhone trade-in. It's not likely, but would be VERY nice.

[earnjam]

Not really a surprise, but I hope AT&T gives a subsidy on it. I'm not dishing out another $600 less than a year later. 3G isn't that great.

Agreed. No way I'm paying $600 again (unless I can get some decent money selling mine ;) )

[MacinJosh]

I just want to buy an iPhone and use it "legally" without jailbreaking it.

Joshua.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

[dam0dred]

Let's hope the June launch includes Canada. :o

[PYR0M310N]

If they are going to offer subsidies on them, then it will probably mean the initial setup will be in store rather than being through iTunes. Otherwise they would have to send out cashbacks i suppose.

[kevinbal]

Yeah, I'm really confused by the "zero sales" thing for almost an entire month. I was really expecting an announcement last or this week - I'm shocked they misjudged their stock this badly.

[arn]

If they are going to offer subsidies on them, then it will probably mean the initial setup will be in store rather than being through iTunes. Otherwise they would have to send out cashbacks i suppose.

Can't they just give you credit against your wireless account?

arn

[t0mat0]

Apple hasn't lost any sales really - it's gained anticipation of new 3G iPhone sales. It's stopped sales through tapering of production, underestimating sales in the run up to the 3G iPhone launch, then specifically not made more production of them so as to clear the market, & made sure there weren't a lot of purchases the few weeks prior to the global launch of the v2 iPhone. It's smart, as it's classic Apple buildup , stops whining about refunds, etc.

Apple will sell more on it's 1st full day of European and U.S. sales than the previous 4-5 weeks i'd imagine, no sweat, and easily beat the previous weekly sales.

A landmark event indeed :)

Apple sources have outed Apple's release date via Gizmodo basically (#1 tech blog pretty much).

[njfuzzy]

It's called "pent-up demand" and it can actually increase overall sales.

[Hooka]

There is a new iPhone coming out?! WTF!!!

[awertheim]

Hey guys, I finally caved and made an account here but I cant vote on the main page for positive or negative news.. Any Ideas why?

Back on topic, yeah it's nice they have it coming out in June but I am still hoping for some great "one more thing" that we havnt heard yet!

[Sweetbike40]

Please be cheaper...
:D
I'm so getting one if they discount it for a new contract!!

[nastebu]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

This gets repeated over and over, but to say "a month of zero iphone sales" is not actually true. There are still iPhones widely available in Europe. Even in the US, AT&T stores often still have them, and as late as last week I was in an Apple Store and they got a shipment in.

[Eidorian]

:D
I'm so getting one if they discount it for a new contract!!I've never owned a phone. :D

[aristobrat]

Wonder if they'll also release the 2.0 software for the original iPhones on that date?

I guess since the iPod Touches had the WiFi store for a few weeks before that update was made available to the iPhones, they wouldn't necessarily have to have 2.0 ready when the new iPhone launches...

[BornAgainMac]

It will probably ship to be on sale on a Friday at 6:00pm. Perhaps as far as 2 weeks after the Keynote to let the hype engine roar.

[Agathon]

This is the end.

The major whines of most iPhone haters were no 3G and no GPS. if it has both, it's game over. There simply won't be a better phone.

[mtrctyjoe]

I simply..... can not WAIT this long. I can't do it. I am going insane.:mad:

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[Dimwhit]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

I can think of one potential good reason to do what they did...people can whine about the 3G coming out right after they bought their (now old) iPhone. Inventory died up a month ahead of time, so it's pretty obvious to everyone what's going on. No excuses, and no reason for Apple to have to placate late adopters of the current iPhone.

I don't know if that's enough reason to go a month without. However, with the absolute flood of sales that the 3G launch will surely bring, they just might not care about losing a month of sales.

[bigjohn]

Wait a second, I can confirm that the product will indeed launch on June 9th...

I can do this because everyone else has said this is the date, so we can't all be wrong!

Also, if it launches with only one app available, we all cry :(

[BigD58]

That's nice to hear. But as everyone said not surprising at all. I do hope AT&T subsidizes! And maybe let it go to verizon also but not able to subsidize?? maybe?:D

[daneoni]

Hmm...maybe it's time i sell my current 4GB iPhone but its served me so well and never given me issues. I'd feel like a traitor.

Im also not sure i can stomach locking myself into an 18 month contract after enjoying the benefits of a Sim-Only Contract

So what about those that signed up for the 18 month contract in November (UK) will they be allowed to upgrade at a discounted price without a contract extension or what?

[Mykbibby]

Wait, a 3G iPhone is coming out June 9th?!? Why hasn't MacRumors covered this a little bit more?

[decimortis]

Rogers in Canada has been pretty tight-lipped about the iPhone, other than confirming that it is indeed coming, so maybe we'll hear something about that at WWDC...

I can't think of why nothing else has been mentioned since the annoucement...of course, I can't think of much this early in the morning.

[PeckhamBog]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

I guess it was a necessary step to avoid upsetting customers in the 'tech lane' with the new tech or price offering.

No one likes writing ' I'm really sorry I keep upsetting you guys ' letters too often.

[sassenach74]

Fascinating, a useful post...

But yet still more on topic than yours ;)

Can't wait for June 9th, just a shame im working 2pm-10pm that day, think I might sneak my laptop into work to keep an eye on the O2 site (and of course live (text & images) feeds here at MR.

[captain kaos]

All this hype about the new iphone is all a nice idea, but i can see the whole thing, if not the world go into complete meltdown, A} on June 9th and B} however many days, weeks later the iphone gets released!

Its going to be mass histeria at the apple stores and on the web. Its gong to be hell on earth!
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

PS i thought i'd bring a bit of colour to the forum today.
:)

[thorbenh]

Where can I have access to the live stream of Steve´s keynote?

By the way: Will it be possible to use the (hopefully) built-in front camera for video-chats over Internet instead of UMTS??

I would like to do video-calls internationally from iPhone to iPhone over Web.

[sassenach74]

So what about those that signed up for the 18 month contract in November (UK) will they be allowed to upgrade at a discounted price without a contract extension or what?


Why would/should they be allowed that?

[louden]

It will probably ship to be on sale on a Friday at 6:00pm. Perhaps as far as 2 weeks after the Keynote to let the hype engine roar.

?????

This isn't like the Wii where they actually underestimated demand. If they limit supply of the 3G iPhone, the only thing Apple will create is "lost sales". I doubt there will be a delay for the sale of the phones and I doubt that Apple will create a shortage by limiting supply. I'm sure they have a good enough handle on suppliers to be able to crank out enough 3G phones on a timely basis.

Regarding the one month delay - I think it will probably work out for Apple, but if they don't hit there sales targets for 08, they'll look back on the month of lost sales and probably can whomever made the decision to forego sales in exchange for fewer returns.

[mhuk01]

just out of interest who is selling there current iphone to get the new one? i want to do it but don't want to end up having to spend more than £50-100 on a new one. Of course mine wont be subsidised at all coz i'm signed into a sim-only vodafone contract.

what do u reckon - for a used iphone (bought oct 2007 from usa) unlocked with case and boxes etc? can i get £200 for it? if so SURELY a sim-only/unlocked 3g iphone (which i'm sure they'll offer, if not a hacked one obviously) will be under £250??

any thoughts? really want to sell now coz obviously the price of my used iphone will diminish dramatically in a few weeks!

cheers

[redgaz26]

i would love if 02 gave a trade in for us loyal customers save us the hassle of selling our 1st gen on.
oh well i can dream:)

[Pwned]

I hope they don't wait to release it and have it for immediate availability. If I have to wait any longer than the 9th I'll be really mad and Apple will get my money anyways, damn you Iphone!!!!!:)

I heart :apple:

[Santa Rosa]

So what about those that signed up for the 18 month contract in November (UK) will they be allowed to upgrade at a discounted price without a contract extension or what?

I have been speaking to the iPhone O2 people a fair bit about this. Basically it goes like this:

You have your SIM card in your iPhone and thats linked to your account. If your iPhone you have at the moment non 3G broke, then all you do is take the SIM card out of it and put it in a new one. When you connect that to your Mac/PC iTunes will then do a soft activation and everything is back to normal.

Relating this to the 3G iPhone, they are saying simply because you own the phone, all you have to do is take the SIM out of your original iPhone, put it in the new 3G one and then do the same soft activation procedure with iTunes. Then thats you on the same contract, same number everything the same except you are using a 3G iPhone.

I simply..... can not WAIT this long. I can't do it. I am going insane.:mad:

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Well looks exactly like what I have been saying all along (really accurate for Spain lol, luck definitely):

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5438284&postcount=64

[emulator]

still don't understand why 3G is so big deal. the technology is here for a very long time and apple should have released the original iphone as a 3G capable phone.

apple is only doing double and triple dipping and people bow down before them like if they were gods. :confused:

[stagi]

can't wait, i have had my iphone since launch but think I am going to sell it this week and get ready for 3g next month :)

[BeyondtheTech]

Yay, my news submission makes it to the front page. Didn't think the 3G iPhone would be news to anyone. :)

I'm just hoping for a front-facing camera along with that 3G. Why US carriers are so insistent on ripping it out before branding their name on it is beyond me (i.e. all the HTC products). If they decide to throw in iChat with video over Wi-Fi or even 3G (maybe it's the next joint feature between Apple and AT&T like Visual Voicemail was!), just imagine the additional WOW factor it'll have over other phones.

I'm not standing in line again for 6 hours, especially when there was stock at the end of the day. Then again, the demand might be a lot higher if the price is subsidized. Order online or take the day off? Decisions, decisions...

[Santa Rosa]

just out of interest who is selling there current iphone to get the new one? i want to do it but don't want to end up having to spend more than £50-100 on a new one. Of course mine wont be subsidised at all coz i'm signed into a sim-only vodafone contract.

what do u reckon - for a used iphone (bought oct 2007 from usa) unlocked with case and boxes etc? can i get £200 for it? if so SURELY a sim-only/unlocked 3g iphone (which i'm sure they'll offer, if not a hacked one obviously) will be under £250??

any thoughts? really want to sell now coz obviously the price of my used iphone will diminish dramatically in a few weeks!

cheers

i would love if 02 gave a trade in for us loyal customers save us the hassle of selling our 1st gen on.
oh well i can dream:)

These people may be of help, its a suggestion anyway:

Envirofone (http://www.envirofone.com/)

[ImNoSuperMan]

This gets repeated over and over, but to say "a month of zero iphone sales" is not actually true. There are still iPhones widely available in Europe. Even in the US, AT&T stores often still have them, and as late as last week I was in an Apple Store and they got a shipment in.

Yeah they might be having some stock left in stores but still this is something completely unheard of Apple. We`ve heard of stocks going down a week before the new model is launched but a month is completely unbelievable. They`d still sell lots and lots of 3G iPhone once it comes out but nothing justifies one Month of non availability of any iPhone et al.

Anyways it`ll definitely reduce the number of customers whining as they had just bought the old iPhone only a day ago.

[d21mike]

If they are going to offer subsidies on them, then it will probably mean the initial setup will be in store rather than being through iTunes. Otherwise they would have to send out cashbacks i suppose.

I just took my original iPhoine back to the Apple Store last night due to a problem with the screen (white area in upper right corner). They quickly replaced my iPhone and "activated" it right there. I said I thought I had to activate at home with iTunes and he said that "they streamlined that a bit".

[ndriver182]

Agreed. No way I'm paying $600 again (unless I can get some decent money selling mine ;) )

What about the whole two year contract issues for those of us considering upgrading? Would we have to sign up for another two years of service or would it just be a matter of dropping in the new SIM card?

[bretm]

Can't they just give you credit against your wireless account?

arn

If you get it at AT&T. What if you get it at the apple store? Does Apple give the extra cash to AT&T?

[captain kaos]

Im in the UK, i've got till October to the end of my 18 month contract with my NON iphone phone. Waiting till october will pretty much kill me (i finally buckled and now i want/need an iphone!) so how can i get hold of one? Will the v2.0 be hackable, will i have to resort to getting one from the states or another european country, or even Australia (if they do have unblocked iphones come june/july)? Or do i have to become O2 bitch and somehow blag one and sign up for another 18 month contract (:eek:)

Questions, Questions......

[bretm]

I can think of one potential good reason to do what they did...people can whine about the 3G coming out right after they bought their (now old) iPhone. Inventory died up a month ahead of time, so it's pretty obvious to everyone what's going on. No excuses, and no reason for Apple to have to placate late adopters of the current iPhone.

I don't know if that's enough reason to go a month without. However, with the absolute flood of sales that the 3G launch will surely bring, they just might not care about losing a month of sales.

They could do like every other money making business and keep selling phones. If that's their worry they can sell them at a discount. They can put up a sign saying 3G coming June 9! Current iPhone on sale. They've already dropped the price, time to drop it again and sell out of your inventory. Or perhpas they have, too early. But there's absolutely no reason for a company to quit selling a product to placate the whiners. Give them a 30 day price guarantee or whatever it takes, but as a stockholder, keep selling phones for cryin out loud.

[Stately]

WWDC, of course. When else would it be? :cool:



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They also suggest that the next iPhone will be offered with more traditional discounts and incentives rather then the fixed price point Apple had been offering with the original iPhone. No specific details have been leaked, though there have been rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/29/atandt-to-provide-200-subsidy-on-3g-iphone/) that even AT&T might offer a subsidy on the upcoming 3G iPhone.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/20/confirmation-of-june-9th-3g-iphone-launch/)

Forget traditional discounts, Apple needs to nix ties with carriers and produce their own towers for their products. I'm sure that we would get unheard of pricing for phone plans and whatever else. Apple is not greedy, they are truly for their customers. I could see it now . . . :rolleyes:

[mhuk01]

I just took my original iPhoine back to the Apple Store last night due to a problem with the screen (white area in upper right corner). They quickly replaced my iPhone and "activated" it right there. I said I thought I had to activate at home with iTunes and he said that "they streamlined that a bit".

is this activating in store going to pose a problem if they don't release a sim-only version? surely they can't force you to sign up in store, u buy the phone therefore it is yours?!

[thaitillidie]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

[Sean Dempsey]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

Ummm.... have you ever been to these forums when a new product is released and people just bought the older model a few weeks/days previous?

It's like Apple can't please you fanboys. They sell an old product right up to the DAY of a major update without warning, and you all get the torches and pitchforks demanding refunds and saying how it's "unfair" apple sold you the old model when a new one was just hours away.

So now, they drain their stock of an obsolete iPhone so they can't sell any just weeks/days before a TOTALLY new model comes out, and you cry again? They try to prevent people from buying iPhone1 when just around the corner iPhone2 will be out for the same or lower price, and you're confused?

Sounds like this forum needs a spray to the crotch of "sandy-vag-be-gone."

[daneoni]

Why would/should they be allowed that?

Why not. Another option would be you extend your contract by 6 months if you upgrade. Otherwise i dont think too many people would be happy at the thought of another 18 months...especially if they dont like the carrier in the first place

I have been speaking to the iPhone O2 people a fair bit about this. Basically it goes like this:

You have your SIM card in your iPhone and thats linked to your account. If your iPhone you have at the moment non 3G broke, then all you do is take the SIM card out of it and put it in a new one. When you connect that to your Mac/PC iTunes will then do a soft activation and everything is back to normal.

Relating this to the 3G iPhone, they are saying simply because you own the phone, all you have to do is take the SIM out of your original iPhone, put it in the new 3G one and then do the same soft activation procedure with iTunes. Then thats you on the same contract, same number everything the same except you are using a 3G iPhone.




I hope this is truly the case

[nomad01]

I have been speaking to the iPhone O2 people a fair bit about this. Basically it goes like this:
<snip>
Relating this to the 3G iPhone, they are saying simply because you own the phone, all you have to do is take the SIM out of your original iPhone, put it in the new 3G one and then do the same soft activation procedure with iTunes. Then thats you on the same contract, same number everything the same except you are using a 3G iPhone.



Is this final though? O2's webpage at one time was saying that you could upgrade the iPhone when a new model came out but you'd restart your 18 month contract from the date of activation.

Then, when the 16Gb model came out, they were letting people buy a new phone and transfer the sim without restarting the contract.

[daneoni]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

Elitist much :rolleyes:

[bbplayer5]

This is confirmation of nothing.

[Much Ado]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

Eeewwww... now the peasants are allowed phones too...

[johnnyjibbs]

Please be cheaper...
I'm hearing ya. :p

This actually makes a lot of sense. Take the world by storm with the original iPhone. Announce 6 months prior to launch to get appetite up on it and buzz. Offer it for stupendous amounts of money with no subsidies to keep up the perceived value (the "Mercedes Benz effect"). Then offer version 2 with all the usual discounts once you've ****** on everyone else for true mass market appeal.

Smart move Apple.

And if it's cheaper, I can't wait. :cool:

[Santa Rosa]

I just took my original iPhoine back to the Apple Store last night due to a problem with the screen (white area in upper right corner). They quickly replaced my iPhone and "activated" it right there. I said I thought I had to activate at home with iTunes and he said that "they streamlined that a bit".

Is this final though? O2's webpage at one time was saying that you could upgrade the iPhone when a new model came out but you'd restart your 18 month contract from the date of activation.

Then, when the 16Gb model came out, they were letting people buy a new phone and transfer the sim without restarting the contract.

What they are getting confused with is the fact that if you buy a new model say the 16GB then they are assuming that you are having that as another phone, not as a replacement, hence you need a new contract for it.

As the quote above points out, what they did in store is just what I am talking about except at home.

With the iPhone you are not at present paying for the phone via your contract. How this is going to work with the new deals I do not know. With the current iPhone O2 contract you are only contracted to service from them and not the phone, hence you can change it to whatever you want such as a 3G iPhone with no problems. That is what the iPhone O2 dedicated helpline told me and from what I have been gathering from bits and pieces.

[csmitty]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

I see iphones pretty much everywhere. No, not as much as a razr. It really dosn't matter on the price to me. I love my ipod touch but want it to do more. A normal iphone would sufice for me, but with a new one lurking. Book that!

[cal6n]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

You are a seriously obnoxious little oik, aren't you?

[csmitty]

What about the whole two year contract issues for those of us considering upgrading? Would we have to sign up for another two years of service or would it just be a matter of dropping in the new SIM card?

If you want the cheaper price, say maybe $200 less, it'd be a contract extension. If you don't want a longer contract, full price.

Thats how nextels been doin it forever. I know, I wanted a i580 so bad. Almost 2 years ago :rolleyes: but i'll be damned if it wasn't the best phone i ever had. never had to have it replaced, or any part of it, and usually threw it arcross the room for fun. if the iphone meet milspec standards, i would give them a check with my name on it. and thats it.

[TheOrioles33]

This is the end.

The major whines of most iPhone haters were no 3G and no GPS. if it has both, it's game over. There simply won't be a better phone.

Totally agree! Now the forums will be used for infomational purposes like its supposed to.

[billystlyes]

Wow, a "new iPhone is coming" article of the day? :rolleyes:

[McL0vin]

This Gizmodo piece is yet another 'confirmation' with some seriously funny/ambiguous elements that undermine the validity of their sources.

Let's see:

1. all they confirm is an announcement at WWDC, which we already knew. It's really the latest apple can announce the phone, you don't need sources for that.

2. availability is noted as "right after" which isn't the same as "same day". Right after could be weeks or months.

3. not at year's end, as previously thought Really??? when was the phone ever slated to arrive in the months of november or december?

[Obi-Wan Kubrick]

This phone wont take off until they can ditch AT&T and spread to Verizon etc.

[darklyt]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

I find it's best to keep those commoners from touching my exclusive products. Thats why I think you should keep your iPhone hidden, they might get their finger grease and drool all over the screen.

By the way, have you heard of this device called an iPod? It's pretty expensive for something that doesn't really do anything other than play some music. I bet nobody has them because they're priced out of the range of so many people.

[Parky]

Apple will not lose sales, simply postpone them.

Most people who would buy an iPhone want an iPhone.
If they can't get one because they have sold out but know that a new model will be out soon they will wait and buy it later.

I can't see many people thinking "I want an iPhone, but they have sold out so I will buy an LG". They may lose a few sales, but the majority of people will wait until they are available.

Ian

[Diggity-Dan]

iPhone? What's an iPhone?

[nomad01]

With the iPhone you are not at present paying for the phone via your contract. How this is going to work with the new deals I do not know. With the current iPhone O2 contract you are only contracted to service from them and not the phone, hence you can change it to whatever you want such as a 3G iPhone with no problems. That is what the iPhone O2 dedicated helpline told me and from what I have been gathering from bits and pieces.

The only reason I'm asking is that the O2 webpage FAQ quite clearly stated the opposite at one time. It said something to the effect of "when a new iPhone is released, will I have to start a new contract?" and the answer was that you would be able to buy the phone and restart your contract. IE not having to pay it up and start a new one.

[sassenach74]

Why not. Another option would be you extend your contract by 6 months if you upgrade. Otherwise i dont think too many people would be happy at the thought of another 18 months...especially if they dont like the carrier in the first place.

I fail to understand why you think you should get special treatment simply because you bought the first gen, you had that choice, you made that choice, you signed the contract. That's the whole purpose of a contract is it not?
I can appreciate you should be allowed to buy the new iPhone (full price) and insert your existing sim card and continue your contract, but I cannot for the life of me see how you feel you should get a reduction in price. Cake and eat it?

[electronboy]

The iPhone is an awesome device, but I'm still not sure why all those people agreed to pay FULL price for the phone AND agree to a TWO YEAR CONTRACT with outrageous data/voice plans.

If the price of the phone and the monthly plans drop in cost I will be one of the first to sign up for iPhone 2.0

One more thing, no more proprietary headphone jack!

[jonnylink]

for those of you thinking of pawning off your old iPhone, please read this first
http://www.zdziarski.com/

protect yourself against identity theft & etc

[bmh16]

Can't wait! As for that loads of people have the iPhone, its Sony Ericsson that everyone has with me. There were only about 2 people who had an iPhone in 3 whole school year groups (700 people). I've left school now, but it just shows that the iPhone is a not very common phone which is great. And i don't think it will ever be to youngsters (18-) so thats good for me :) - well unless they discount it loads!

[frank781]

Gizmodo was told by a source deep in the 3G launch team? I'm not so sure about this. Gizmodo is the same blog site that claimed that the iPhone was going to be released on December 2006 and it turned out to the Cisco's VOIP iPhone (when Cisco still owned the name).

These guys are not as reliable as the guys over at Engadget, Tech Crunch, etc.

[number9]

This Gizmodo piece is yet another 'confirmation' with some seriously funny/ambiguous elements that undermine the validity of their sources.

Let's see:

1. all they confirm is an announcement at WWDC, which we already knew. It's really the latest apple can announce the phone, you don't need sources for that.

2. availability is noted as "right after" which isn't the same as "same day". Right after could be weeks or months.

3. not at year's end, as previously thought Really??? when was the phone ever slated to arrive in the months of november or december?


1. Is WWDC really the latest they can announce it? Who set the deadline? There is always the possibility of an even AFTER WWDC. Just because WWDC is the logical choice, doesn't mean its certain.

2. Generally, right after doesn't imply weeks or months. If you tell someone you'll be be somewhere "right after" you finish something, are you going to show up 3 weeks later? Probably not.

3. You should read the whole sentence...The second-generation iPhone will be available worldwide right after the launch, and not at year's end, as previously thought. They're talking about the worldwide launch. Some sources originally thought the launches would be staggered between the June announcement and the end of the year, now they are saying that basically everything will be available sometime in June.

[sassenach74]

Let's see:

1. all they confirm is an announcement at WWDC, which we already knew.
2. availability is noted as "right after" which isn't the same as "same day". Right after could be weeks or months.
3. not at year's end, as previously thought Really??? when was the phone ever slated to arrive in the months of november or december?

1No we didn't
2Splitting hairs there
3Initially yes, it was a thought being tossed around a while back

@number9 (great)minds think alike :P

[Cyburnclassic]

Hopefully in the UK, O2 will reduce both the prices of the iPhones and the monthly contracts when the 3G iPhone is released.

[ssteve]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

You seem to think that Apple has been selling cell phones for a long time...........:o

[Brianstorm91]

iPhone this, iPhone that. It's really starting to get a little jaded for me.
Hopefully there'll be something major alongside the iPhone + SDK soon.

[kingtj]

I'll go along with the logic that AT&T, by no means, should be COMPELLED to cut people some sort of special break on the contract terms, just because they want to move from the gen. 1 iPhone to the gen. 2 model.

But it's ALSO reasonable to suggest the POSSIBILITY that they'd do such a thing, knowing that it's good for customer retention and goodwill. It's also, theoretically, a beneficial move for AT&T *if* they have a long-term plan of phasing out the EDGE network and getting all their users on 3G instead.

(Sprint is struggling with a similar issue right now. They bought out Nextel, but they're now stuck supporting BOTH incompatible networks simultaneously. They'd love nothing more than to migrate all their Nextel customers over to new phones that run on the Sprint network -- except Nextel's "push to talk" walkie-talkie capability happens to work far better than the variation built on Sprint's own network. Therefore, they've started pushing the "dual mode" Motorola phones that can use Nextel's push-to-talk network, but Sprint's network for everything else. It's a big mess for them, actually.)


I fail to understand why you think you should get special treatment simply because you bought the first gen, you had that choice, you made that choice, you signed the contract. That's the whole purpose of a contract is it not?
I can appreciate you should be allowed to buy the new iPhone (full price) and insert your existing sim card and continue your contract, but I cannot for the life of me see how you feel you should get a reduction in price. Cake and eat it?

[BklynKid]

Gizmodo sucks. Everyone already knew that this was happening.

[Santa Rosa]

The only reason I'm asking is that the O2 webpage FAQ quite clearly stated the opposite at one time. It said something to the effect of "when a new iPhone is released, will I have to start a new contract?" and the answer was that you would be able to buy the phone and restart your contract. IE not having to pay it up and start a new one.

Maybe they have changed their stance on it. Seems strange though as you would think that would hit hardware sales for Apple a bit no??

Looks like we will just have to wait and see!! Im hoping that my theory is right, if not there is going to be some serious argumentation happening at O2... with me.

[elcid]

Ok, so an announcement on the 9th, but what about the FCC. Are they going to announce but not release?

[urbanlung]

Fascinating, a useful post...

Yes, I thought so. I Don't have one either but I do know someone who has one.

[TexasAg]

Ok, so an announcement on the 9th, but what about the FCC. Are they going to announce but not release?

Upon request, the FCC will withhold filings, I believe up until a product is shipped. There is no requirement that the FCC disclose a filing by Apple before the product is announced.

[Stately]

iPhone this, iPhone that. It's really starting to get a little jaded for me.
Hopefully there'll be something major alongside the iPhone + SDK soon.

None of us will be saying that if the new phone has the white hot features that we all long for and then some. ;) I hear you though. I can't wait for a beautiful UMPC that can only be done right by Apple. :apple:

[McL0vin]

No we didn't
This is no confirmation, it's just another random 'sources said'. We've had tons of rumors indicate a WWDC announcement, so this adds nothing...

2Splitting hairs there
Again, if they were so confident of their sources they would say 'available june 10th'.

3Initially yes, it was a thought being tossed around a while back
That would have been a horrible business move on apple's part.

[paja]

Gizmodo hates the iPhone and Apple.

All of their articles are hate bait articles to get Apple flamed.

I don't even bother going to their site anymore.

[Kwill]

I've never owned a phone. :D

There must be someone you can call about that. :rolleyes:

[nomad01]

Maybe they have changed their stance on it. Seems strange though as you would think that would hit hardware sales for Apple a bit no??


Hmmm. I guess. When the iPhone was released it was unlike any other contract that O2 had handled.

You could only use it on the O2 network. You had to sign up for an 18 month contract. If you failed the credit check you were supposed to return the phone to O2 (or wherever it was purchased). So it sort of felt like a subsidised phone.

Normally, if you upgrade a phone within the contract period you'd expect to have to pay up that contract before being able to start a new one. So O2 obviously felt the need to state that this wasn't the case and that if you upgraded to a new iPhone when it was released, you'd just be able to restart your contract.

This was discussed on MacRumors at the time. It doesn't appear to be on the O2 website anymore though.

If you don't have to renew the contract to use the new iPhone, I'll be very happy.

[Kwill]

Wait, a 3G iPhone is coming out June 9th?!? Why hasn't MacRumors covered this a little bit more?

OK. That does it! I haven't been convinced thus far but just now I marked June 9 on my calendar for iPhone software release.

[Pwned]

less than 3 weeks...:D

[EagerDragon]

And the new iPhone Take 2 will be available for $899 with no contract and 399 with an 18 month contract from AT&T.

Also today we are announcing the iMatic, It slices, it Dices, plays the guitar and cleans the lint off your belly bottom.

[TonyHoyle]

Maybe they have changed their stance on it. Seems strange though as you would think that would hit hardware sales for Apple a bit no??

Looks like we will just have to wait and see!! Im hoping that my theory is right, if not there is going to be some serious argumentation happening at O2... with me.

It's normal in the UK that any change such as a phone upgrade restarts your minimum contract term from the start (one trick they like to pull is offer you a 'cheaper tariff for free' or 'free friends and family calls' or similar, then silently drop you on an 18 month new contract without pointing that out.. because it's still not so widely known that it's universal practice to restart contracts in this way).

Anyway, from the pay monthly T&C for iphone (http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/tariffsandboltons0153) clause 2 in 'General':

"If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply."

Which is, as I read it, the standard ability to buy your way out of the contract early, with an extra exception to allow you to upgrade an iphone within 18 months - but restarting the 18 month minimum period.

As this is what is in the contract you agree to I'd believe that rather than a customer service person.

[ryanasimov]

I'll be the prognosticating cloud of gloom. :)

Sure, 3G certainly has an overall throughput that spanks EDGE, but the existing 3G networks have HORRIBLE latency. The 3G iPhone will be a marked improvement and will continue to be the best portable internet device, but I predict a legion of whiners saying, "Not fast enough!".

Apple usually gives users what they, want; the problem is that a lot of users don't know what they want. :)

[ktappe]

I'm not dishing out another $600 less than a year later.
You never did, in the long run. Anyone who paid $600 for the iPhone got $200 in credit back from Apple. So I'm not clear why you and a couple of other posters are lamenting $600. :confused:

[number9]

1No we didn't
2Splitting hairs there
3Initially yes, it was a thought being tossed around a while back

@number9 (great)minds think alike :P

Yes, yes they do :D

[Santa Rosa]

If you don't have to renew the contract to use the new iPhone, I'll be very happy.

Im going to make sure of it :cool: lol

If not then they will know all about it from me anyway, if it happens that you cant and enough people complain then they may be able to change their stance. I would be very surprised, annoyed and disappointed though if you needed a new contract to change to the 3G iPhone.

[TonyHoyle]

Sure, 3G certainly has an overall throughput that spanks EDGE, but the existing 3G networks have HORRIBLE latency. The 3G iPhone will be a marked improvement and will continue to be the best portable internet device, but I predict a legion of whiners saying, "Not fast enough!".


Actually that's not true in general.. try 3G through a laptop.. it's not that different to browsing over DSL (when I'm browsing over this university network the 3G is actually faster... during the day I'm lucky to pull 2mb/sec off this link. Still the office space is cheap...). The problem is some (many?) 3G phones are underpowered and take an age to render a web page anyway, so people get a bad user experience.

[EagerDragon]

Yeah they might be having some stock left in stores but still this is something completely unheard of Apple. We`ve heard of stocks going down a week before the new model is launched but a month is completely unbelievable. They`d still sell lots and lots of 3G iPhone once it comes out but nothing justifies one Month of non availability of any iPhone et al.

Anyways it`ll definitely reduce the number of customers whining as they had just bought the old iPhone only a day ago.

Current 2.5G phones are probably being sold to:
a) People not in the know 20%
b) For export to countries that do not have the iPhone to unlock.

They also have the ones at the new Boston store and a few for iPhone replacement when the old one breaks.

[Plutonius]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

Who would have even thought of getting an iPhone this month with all the rumors of the 3G that were leaked ? Apple did the right thing rather then being stuck with a lot of the older iPhones. Besides, anyone who would actually get an iPhone this month would either return it or demand a rebate when the 3G iPhone came out.

[nomad01]

Anyway, from the pay monthly T&C for iphone (http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/tariffsandboltons0153) clause 2 in 'General':

"If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply."



Hmm which goes along with what I was saying. Although they've already contradicted this with their offer for the 16gb iPhone.

Guess we just have to wait and see. :-(

[hectors92]

hm.. what is this iPhone people speak of? and why is it spelt funny..?

[yvonnejim]

Not sure if this was addressed specifically, but if I got an AT&T contract for 2 years back when the first iPhone came out, can I buy the new iPhone for the assumed discounted price and extend my contract for an additional 2 years? Seems this would be possible.

[EagerDragon]

I'll be the prognosticating cloud of gloom. :)

Sure, 3G certainly has an overall throughput that spanks EDGE, but the existing 3G networks have HORRIBLE latency. The 3G iPhone will be a marked improvement and will continue to be the best portable internet device, but I predict a legion of whiners saying, "Not fast enough!".

Apple usually gives users what they, want; the problem is that a lot of users don't know what they want. :)

Not many will be playing WoW on the iPhone, Blizzard has not announced it yet. So lag will not kill you.:)

[Santa Rosa]

It's normal in the UK that any change such as a phone upgrade restarts your minimum contract term from the start (one trick they like to pull is offer you a 'cheaper tariff for free' or 'free friends and family calls' or similar, then silently drop you on an 18 month new contract without pointing that out.. because it's still not so widely known that it's universal practice to restart contracts in this way).

Anyway, from the pay monthly T&C for iphone (http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/tariffsandboltons0153) clause 2 in 'General':

"If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply."

Which is, as I read it, the standard ability to buy your way out of the contract early, with an extra exception to allow you to upgrade an iphone within 18 months - but restarting the 18 month minimum period.

As this is what is in the contract you agree to I'd believe that rather than a customer service person.

So your current iPhone which you have paid in full for breaks down or gets stolen. Sorry, your going to have to get a new contract out to get a new one. Just doesn't work like that. I see where you are coming from with your argument, but looking at it like that it seems you could just get the new 3G iPhone and carry on with your contract after a soft activation.

Also the person I was talking to was someone who was actually very good for once. I agree with you totally to not trust what these people say. I talk to many of these people virtually all of whom are useless but this person was actually genuinely knowledgeable and helpful.

EDIT: Also your link is for the terms for general phones from O2. iPhone is no general phone thats for sure: The actual terms and conditions are here (http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/iphone), have had a quick browse through so may have missed it but cannot see anything that ties you to the particular iPhone you have.

[TonyHoyle]

Hmm which goes along with what I was saying. Although they've already contradicted this with their offer for the 16gb iPhone.

Guess we just have to wait and see. :-(

Of course the wording of that contract is very specific.

"if your purchase a new iPhone from us..."

Buy your new iphone from the apple store and you'll be sorted :p

I'm guessing they assume that 90% of users wouldn't know how to swap the SIM and are not near an apple store anyway.

[Yvan256]

iPhone? What's an iPhone?

Beats me. I've heard it's like an iPod touch but with phone capabilities.

[woodekm]

How did the release of the first iPhone go down?

Did they announce it and say it will go on sale in a week or did they just say Its availiable and go get it?

I thought I remembered people standing in line, but dont remember how it was announced. How long before sales?




Also it would be cool if we could preorder (at Apple or Att websites) and have them ship it a few days before release so you would get it on the day of release or shortly after. Prol a little more involved than that. A man can dream though :)

[freddiecable]

it's is not the 3G - it is the expectations for something more. from launch they have had almost 1.5 years to plan this update - and I think they will have to do more than simply put 3G in the phone. my hopes are for 2 versions - one 2.5"-3" widescreen and the regular 3.5". i think apple has to offer one slightly smaller version.

still don't understand why 3G is so big deal. the technology is here for a very long time and apple should have released the original iphone as a 3G capable phone.

apple is only doing double and triple dipping and people bow down before them like if they were gods. :confused:

[psychofreak]

How did the release of the first iPhone go down?

Did they announce it and say it will go on sale in a week or did they just say Its availiable and go get it?Announced January, available June.

[EagerDragon]

Anyone with 2 or more iPhones in a family plan?

I plan to buy 3, do I activate on my computer and get a family plan then activate each iPhone in their respective 2 other computers or are they all activated in mine? Not sure how that process goes.

Any help?

[GooGleit15]

Quick question...

Currently I have an iphone and I plan on buying the new 3g iphone when it comes out. My question is should I sell my iphone now, since I will get more money for it on ebay or just wait it out until it comes out?

[TonyHoyle]

So your current iPhone which you have paid in full for breaks down or gets stolen. Sorry, your going to have to get a new contract out to get a new one. Just doesn't work like that.

Actually it does. Of course if it breaks down normally you can send it to apple as it'd still be under warranty. Stolen.. it's an insurance job. Either theirs or possibly your household insurance.

You can order a replacement SIM after having the stolen phone blocked, but you won't get another subsidised phone without a new contract - you have to get it elsewhere at full price.

For the iphone there's little different - the purchase price isn't subsidised so it's full price for a new one anyway, but in contract terms it's the same thing.

So O2 are 100% within their rights to restart the contract if you get a new phone, because that's the agreement you signed. They don't even have to tell you they're doing this. They might be nice and either not do it or notify you they're about to, in the interests of good customer relations. OTOH there's plenty of people been 'caught out' like this by not reading the small print.

[GooGleit15]

Quick question...

Currently I have an iphone and I plan on buying the new 3g iphone when it comes out. My question is should I sell my iphone now, since I will get more money for it on ebay or just wait it out until it comes out?

[Mr Maui]

Wait, a 3G iPhone is coming out June 9th?!? Why hasn't MacRumors covered this a little bit more?

Is it just me, or does practically everyone else also feel that comments such as this are a complete waste of the forum space ... AND ... a complete insult to the intelligence of those who use this space for communication of thoughts, ideas, perspectives ... and, yes ... RUMORS!!

Comments such at the quote above, show a very low level of intelligence on the part of the poster. JMO

[spaz8]

Heres hoping we don't have to wait till November for Rogers to actually roll it out up here.

[product26]

its not confirmation if there is a question mark at the end.

[MacGeek7]

This is the end.

The major whines of most iPhone haters were no 3G and no GPS. if it has both, it's game over. There simply won't be a better phone.

Until the rumors about 4G iPhone start

[redgaz26]

You never did, in the long run. Anyone who paid $600 for the iPhone got $200 in credit back from Apple. So I'm not clear why you and a couple of other posters are lamenting $600. :confused:

wasnt everyone who got $200 back was it??? was there not a cut off date??

[TonyHoyle]

Until the rumors about 4G iPhone start

I don't remember much whining about GPS. Mostly MMS and (later) Bluetooth - both of which are fixable in software (personally I could live without MMS for a bit but lack of BT is a major pain in the ass).

[Santa Rosa]

For the iphone there's little different - the purchase price isn't subsidised so it's full price for a new one anyway, but in contract terms it's the same thing.

So O2 are 100% within their rights to restart the contract if you get a new phone, because that's the agreement you signed. They don't even have to tell you they're doing this. They might be nice and either not do it or notify you they're about to, in the interests of good customer relations. OTOH there's plenty of people been 'caught out' like this by not reading the small print.

Thats the point I'm getting at. The iPhone is different. The contract doesn't supply the subside on the phone. Its yours to do what you want with. All you are doing is buying services from them. Hence you should be able to use whatever iPhone you want.

The agreement I am locked into is this one: http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/iphone

If you could point out in that where the point you are trying to make is I would be very grateful.

[born4sky]

guys you gotta be kidding me right ? New iPhone is coming ? I am so excited !!!

[ajmck182]

i cant wait! have you guys seen iphonenewslive.com yet?

[Stately]

Is it just me, or does practically everyone else also feel that comments such as this are a complete waste of the forum space ... AND ... a complete insult to the intelligence of those who use this space for communication of thoughts, ideas, perspectives ... and, yes ... RUMORS!!

Comments such at the quote above, show a very low level of intelligence on the part of the poster. JMO

Its just a joke. Helps break stuff up a lil'. :cool:

[DaBrain]

Wow! Im totally shocked by this news! :D

[javaGuru]

So, how soon after the announcement on June 9th do you guys think it will be available? I've seen them announce things and they be available that day before. I hope this is the case. Or, do you guys think it will be available the next day or maybe even the next Friday?

[DaveTheGrey]

how about making notes syncable instead of releasing new hardware?

[EagerDragon]

So, how soon after the announcement on June 9th do you guys think it will be available? I've seen them announce things and they be available that day before. I hope this is the case. Or, do you guys think it will be available the next day or maybe even the next Friday?

Available June 16, 1 week after announcement and within AT&T vacation freeze.

[riscy]

Great news indeed, but then it depends where you live.

I have just had my (non IPhone) phone Wap-ed here and it is really slow!

[Island Dog]

I'm not really concerned about 3G, I want to hear about GPS and other features. I'm not spending any money just to upgrade to "faster" browsing speed.

[Stately]

So, how soon after the announcement on June 9th do you guys think it will be available? I've seen them announce things and they be available that day before. I hope this is the case. Or, do you guys think it will be available the next day or maybe even the next Friday?

Don't know, but I hope they are so prepared that it is released no later than a week after. I'm trying to get my business man on . . . in a touchy sorta fashion, ya dig ? :cool:

[iStefmac]

Agreed. No way I'm paying $600 again (unless I can get some decent money selling mine ;) )

Yeah not a chance for me either. There will have to be some great incentives to get me to upgrade right now. My 4g iPhone that Ive had since iDay still works beautifully, no way am I going to buy something new already just for 3G. Not at the same old price point, anyway.

Something like:

3G 16 gig $299 might make me open my wallet immediately. But short of that (and thats a long shot) I'll wait a few months and let someone else get whacked with the early adopter premium this time.

[nomar383]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

Dude. I understand. :)

[Towhead]

I've never owned a phone. :D

It's OK with me if you call your mommies phone yours ... we don't care ...

[Half Glass]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

I'll tell you why. In the medicine business this is a washout period. No sales now because no one can return an original iPhone under Apple's return policy. Plain and simple. If people were buying one now, it would be a mess to return them all for the 3G model.

--HG

[KindredMAC]

..... PowerBook G5's at WWDC this year also.....

[Macinposh]

If it would have GPS, what maps would/could iPhone use?



The tele atlas maps, garmin,what? Is there any layer they could operate on?
What would be the form? Would it be google maps?


Havent found any speculaiton on this behalf, so intrested to hear peoples opinions.

[michaelsviews]

I'm not really concerned about 3G, I want to hear about GPS and other features. I'm not spending any money just to upgrade to "faster" browsing speed.


Thats the general consensus around my work is that everyone is ready for the 2nd Gen, but not running too AT&T or Apple store till the specs are out. Than determine whether its worth it . :rolleyes:

Besides has anyone else really looked at 3G availability on AT&T's web site? Not that big at all :eek:

[KindredMAC]

The iPhone needs to incorporate Draft-N if it can.

I was all but ready to swop out my current APEXT G network for an all Draft-N until I realized that my iPhone wouldn't be able to get onto the WiFi network without some help from my preexisting APEXT G base station LAN connected to the new APEXT N base.

I'm not sure if there are any size issues with Draft-N in regards to the chipset and antennas and all that fitting into the new iPhone case with a 3G chipset.

[Marvin1379]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

they didnt screw up at all...they're avoiding the "Waaaaaah" Factor. if someone bought a 1st gen iPhone on june 8th (even on may 8th) then the 3G iPhone comes out, many people would be up in arms. they're avoiding the kind of backlash they got by dropping the price last fall. this is very delibrate and very smart. they're using up all the remaining product (low supply) and then coming out with they're new version (high demand).

[KindredMAC]

Thats the general consensus around my work is that everyone is ready for the 2nd Gen, but not running too AT&T or Apple store till the specs are out. Than determine whether its worth it . :rolleyes:

Besides has anyone else really looked at 3G availability on AT&T's web site? Not that big at all :eek:

Have you looked recently? I looked about a month ago and was SHOCKED that it spread across NY State Ten Fold since January 1st.

The coverage is a helluva-lot better than it was a mere 4 months ago.

[slicecom]

Heres hoping we don't have to wait till November for Rogers to actually roll it out up here.

+1

[AlphaAnt]

The iPhone needs to incorporate Draft-N if it can.

I was all but ready to swop out my current APEXT G network for an all Draft-N until I realized that my iPhone wouldn't be able to get onto the WiFi network without some help from my preexisting APEXT G base station LAN connected to the new APEXT N base.

I'm not sure if there are any size issues with Draft-N in regards to the chipset and antennas and all that fitting into the new iPhone case with a 3G chipset.

For one, all Draft N access points are backwards compatible with A, B, and G devices, so you should still be able to connect a 802.11G iPhone to a Draft N access point.

Besides, for a device with this small a processor, the Wi-Fi connection is definitely not the limiting bottleneck. Would you really notice that your phone is getting a 55 Mbit/s connection and not 110 Mbit/s?

[matttrick]

if i hear about GPS i will finally make the leap. come on apple take my money.

[morespce54]

This is the end.

The major whines of most iPhone haters were no 3G and no GPS. if it has both, it's game over. There simply won't be a better phone.

Let's hope they will be a little less iPhone rumors as well! ;):)

[xenotaku]

I wonder if we are going to see an announcement on June 9th, or an actual Launch June 9th. That is so damn soon. I'm so ready for my first iPhone.

[Pwned]

I could care less about the announcement, give us a release date already and nothing vague like "soon after" or "days after" for the love of sanity!!!!!!!!

I heart :apple:

[megfilmworks]

I wonder if we are going to see an announcement on June 9th, or an actual Launch June 9th. That is so damn soon. I'm so ready for my first iPhone. Best guess says it will be announced and available immediately.

[Van Wildonher]

Well here's hoping it's gonna be June 9th for $399.99 and $499.00. I'm gonna be ordering it right away if so.

[decimortis]

I hope something is mentioned about the iPhone coming to Canada. I mean, it's already been confirmed, but I'd like some dates about the release so I can buy my wife some jewellery a good week or two before they show up.

[AppleMojo]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

You are confused, because your conclusion is wrong. It is not zero iPhone sales.

I have colleagues all over the country (US), who were buying them as recently as this past Friday. Louisiana, Washington, Utah, Illinois.

I believe sales may have been affected, but there are still iPhones available and people are just making more calls to find the stores that have them. In addition, it just gives people more time to put the cash together for their new gadget on release day! ;-)

Keep in mind, how much money Apple lost when it gave in store credit (regardless that it was in store credit, it still is a total loss in revenue). They are managing the large scale whining that will take place when the new iPhone comes out and those new owners of the old iPhone get upset.

[Monty1]

I've never owned a phone. :D

You are POOR

[Raidersmojo]

with this phone only having 3G (Big whoop) possibly GPS, and just bigger harddrive size and it being thicker I'm going to have to pass on this installment , especially if the screen is 2.8 instead of 3.5 like rumored. I don't want a smaller screen.

I'll wait till the third revision, its going to be the best one of them all and probably have a new chip in it. nothing wrong with the first iphone except like people said No GPS/3G and I personally think 3G isn't worth the upgrade.

[thaitillidie]

How is this possible: no employee leaks; no internal memos that got discovered in the dumpster out back at Apple HQ; no Apple engineers being abducted and held for ransom in exchange for info...no nothing!!? I swear, man, no other company on this planet does this - nor does it as brutally - to their loyal consumer base. And yet we keep coming back like the pathetic,
p-whipped wimps that we are! This is insane. What harm could there be in at least releasing the feature details of the new iPhone? That's ok though. Be that way. Keep your l'il precious sparkling brand new 3G iphone pictures, Mr. Jobs. I didn't wanna see it ANYWAY (you butthole)!! I am so frickin' sick 'n tired of having clicked on Apple's homepage for nearly a frickin' month now and seeing those same 3 frickin monitors and that dabnabit caption
'More Power Thinly Disguised' - without even the slightest inkling of 3G iphone news -'till I don't know what to do! They taunt me. Arghhhhh!!!! I must keep searching for a cure until I learn to control this anger that dwells within me. Damn you, Apple and Steve Jobs!!! (and, yes, I do, indeed,need professional help - but only...IN THE FORM OF A FREAKIN' new 3G iPhone!!!)

[Lyra]

Ok, I've been waiting and holding off on the first Generation iPhone. Mostly because I got a sneak peak at what I could expect from the second generation.

But since that time a lot has changed and I have to wonder if those features will be included or might even be much better than what was on the list.

Though that's not what I really want, because we all more or less know what to expect on the software side. What I want is to see 16Gb to be the smallest of the iPhones and then have a 32GB and maybe even a 64GB version. I have an iPod Touch and the 16GB isn't enough. I need at least 32.

How do you see the natural evolution in size? You think there will be a 32 and maybe even a 64?

[slicecom]

I hope something is mentioned about the iPhone coming to Canada. I mean, it's already been confirmed, but I'd like some dates about the release so I can buy my wife some jewellery a good week or two before they show up.

Good strategy! :D

[sassenach74]

with this phone only having 3G (Big whoop) possibly GPS, and just bigger harddrive size and it being thicker I'm going to have to pass on this installment , especially if the screen is 2.8 instead of 3.5 like rumored. I don't want a smaller screen.


That's more fiction than fact....but if you have made a decision already based on rumors, then more the fool you.

[sananda]

.

How do you see the natural evolution in size? You think there will be a 32 and maybe even a 64?

no idea, but i'd be delighted if there is a 32GB version next month.

[sassenach74]

Im really hoping on a 32gb version, although I could quite easily settle for a 16gb, either way I'm buying one.

[modernmagic]

June 9th is my birthday.

So I hope my wish comes true....

[Zeegler]

Ok, I've been waiting and holding off on the first Generation iPhone. Mostly because I got a sneak peak at what I could expect from the second generation.

But since that time a lot has changed and I have to wonder if those features will be included or might even be much better than what was on the list.

Though that's not what I really want, because we all more or less know what to expect on the software side. What I want is to see 16Gb to be the smallest of the iPhones and then have a 32GB and maybe even a 64GB version. I have an iPod Touch and the 16GB isn't enough. I need at least 32.

How do you see the natural evolution in size? You think there will be a 32 and maybe even a 64?

size: 64GB
color: black

[uNext]

I wonder how long till the people that are "dying for an iphone 2g now" will take to start complaining about data charges being expensive.

I hope you dont think that speeds are updated and the price remains the same.

[Elsewhere]

I am eagerly awaiting this new iPhone. I didn't buy the first one for three reasons:


No SDK (This inhibits innovation)
No GPS
Slow EDGE (Need I say more?)


I'm still disappointed that apps will still be loaded solely through Apple who will enforce restrictions on what apps can do. I'm hoping this will eventually change due to user demands.

Now for the fun and exciting aspects of the new iPhone!

With 3G and GPS it is just a matter of time before I will be able to sell my TomTom GPS and use an iPhone for directions while driving (one less device to worry about). I also look forward to the inevitable innovations that will come as a result of the SDK. I think one of the next "Kill Apps" will be one that associates your GPS location with what stores and products and events are nearby. Walking near a StarBucks? Buy and pay for your coffee on your iPhone and have your coffee ready for you when you walk in. Walking down Main St and want to know what's being sold in a nearby store... take look on the iPhone. You could even have the option of turning on little popup ads that will associate your past behaviors with products and services that are nearby (this could be used to subsidize your phone service)

Utility crews could use the iPhone as a "see through x-ray visor". Using a combination of the GPS, Video Camera, Motion Sensor and the high-speed 3G connection a utility crew could point the camera at the ground and see an overlay image of all of the pipes, tunnels and cables that are underground. As the crew member moves the iPhone around the images will auto-slide and will act like an "window" to see everything that is buried in the ground.

With the GPS your photos will have GPS coordinates imbedded in the metadata of your pictures. As you post them on you website Google will be able to index your photos, and everyone else's, and then pragmatically assemble all of the photos into one large panoramic view that will include the ability to extrapolate the 3D structure of builds, roads and any other landmark. People could then go to Google maps and "fly" through an area. All of this stitched together from everyone posting their pictures anywhere on the web.

There is SO much more the new iPhone will be able to do with GPS and 3G. I can't wait to see what all people come up with using the SDK!!!

[twoodcc]

well i sure hope that it's shipping June 9th also

[number9]

with this phone only having 3G (Big whoop) possibly GPS, and just bigger harddrive size and it being thicker I'm going to have to pass on this installment , especially if the screen is 2.8 instead of 3.5 like rumored. I don't want a smaller screen.

I'll wait till the third revision, its going to be the best one of them all and probably have a new chip in it. nothing wrong with the first iphone except like people said No GPS/3G and I personally think 3G isn't worth the upgrade.

I don't know why people insist on assuming things that have never been confirmed are true, and then basing a purchasing decision off of those "facts." No one has ever confirmed ANY of the physical dimensions of the 3G iPhone, or any of the features. Also, how do you know the third revision will be the best of all of them? Isn't that what you could say about every revision? They SHOULD be better than the previous model, otherwise there isn't really any point to the new model existing. If someone is happy with the current one, that's fine and all, I just wouldn't be so set on something that you, nor anyone outside of Apple has any idea about.

[sananda]

I hope you dont think that speeds are updated and the price remains the same.

i most certainly do.

[mmignano]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

ha...try walking around Manhattan for a day. you'll see more iphones here than all other phones combined.

[number9]

I am eagerly awaiting this new iPhone. I didn't buy the first one for three reasons:


No SDK (This inhibits innovation)
No GPS
Slow EDGE (Need I say more?)


I'm still disappointed that apps will still be loaded solely through Apple who will enforce restrictions on what apps can do. I'm hoping this will eventually change due to user demands.

Now for the fun and exciting aspects of the new iPhone!

With 3G and GPS it is just a matter of time before I will be able to sell my TomTom GPS and use an iPhone for directions while driving (one less device to worry about). I also look forward to the inevitable innovations that will come as a result of the SDK. I think one of the next "Kill Apps" will be one that associates your GPS location with what stores and products and events are nearby. Walking near a StarBucks? Buy and pay for your coffee on your iPhone and have your coffee ready for you when you walk in. Walking down Main St and want to know what's being sold in a nearby store... take look on the iPhone. You could even have the option of turning on little popup ads that will associate your past behaviors with products and services that are nearby (this could be used to subsidize your phone service)

Utility crews could use the iPhone as a "see through x-ray visor". Using a combination of the GPS, Video Camera, Motion Sensor and the high-speed 3G connection a utility crew could point the camera at the ground and see an overlay image of all of the pipes, tunnels and cables that are underground. As the crew member moves the iPhone around the images will auto-slide and will act like an "window" to see everything that is buried in the ground.

With the GPS your photos will have GPS coordinates imbedded in the metadata of your pictures. As you post them on you website Google will be able to index your photos, and everyone else's, and then pragmatically assemble all of the photos into one large panoramic view that will include the ability to extrapolate the 3D structure of builds, roads and any other landmark. People could then go to Google maps and "fly" through an area. All of this stitched together from everyone posting their pictures anywhere on the web.

There is SO much more the new iPhone will be able to do with GPS and 3G. I can't wait to see what all people come up with using the SDK!!!


Sounds interesting...also, what are you smoking? Dope that lets you see several years into the future???

[Zeegler]

I wonder how long till the people that are "dying for an iphone 2g now" will take to start complaining about data charges being expensive.

I hope you dont think that speeds are updated and the price remains the same.

I concur. Current AT&T Data plan comparison:
iPhone (EDGE) = $20/month unlimited data
BlackJack II (3G) = $30/month unlimited data

[sassenach74]

I wonder how long till the people that are "dying for an iphone 2g now" will take to start complaining about data charges being expensive.

I hope you dont think that speeds are updated and the price remains the same.

I presume you mean 3g not 2g, but I'm pretty confident it won't cost more, here in the UK i KNOW it wont.
Why would it cost more? Unlimited data is exactly that....unlimited.....what difference does it make how quickly you got that data? The necessary equipment is already up and running for 3g, there is no extra cost to the carrier as far as I can see.

[bfg110]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

you are ugly inside

[viniciusc]

:( am i really the only one who's sick of 3D iPhone rumors for WWDC? I mean, it's already got pretty obvious.

[sassenach74]

you are ugly inside

Why do you feel the need to make personal criticisms?
Everyone has their own opinions on things, some opinions (such as yours) are best left in your head.

[sassenach74]

:( am i really the only one who's sick of 3D iPhone rumors for WWDC? I mean, it's already got pretty obvious.

Well you can only have gotten sick of it if you over indulged on it, no?
Simple solution would be to not come to this website, or the least the iphone section. Nobody forces you to click your mouse on this thread.

Oh, and......3D??? You can't have been reading that much on it aye.

[nomad01]

So your current iPhone which you have paid in full for breaks down or gets stolen. Sorry, your going to have to get a new contract out to get a new one. Just doesn't work like that. I see where you are coming from with your argument, but looking at it like that it seems you could just get the new 3G iPhone and carry on with your contract after a soft activation.

Also the person I was talking to was someone who was actually very good for once. I agree with you totally to not trust what these people say. I talk to many of these people virtually all of whom are useless but this person was actually genuinely knowledgeable and helpful.

EDIT: Also your link is for the terms for general phones from O2. iPhone is no general phone thats for sure: The actual terms and conditions are here (http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/iphone), have had a quick browse through so may have missed it but cannot see anything that ties you to the particular iPhone you have.

In that link TonyHoyle posted, there was a section called:

Pay Monthly tariff terms and conditions for iPhone

I guess that applies to us all too? Right?

Point 2 under the first section states:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply.

Then the link you posted appear to be the revised terms from Feb 08 which just state:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you will be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term.

So I guess it depends when you signed up. The Feb terms seem to leave things more open. Until the 3G iPhone appears, I guess we won't know how they intend to play it.

[Skilgannon]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:
They just don't want the same thing that hapened earlier, when they had to pay for those that bought an iPhone and a week later there was a price drop.

They just let their stock black out, pass a month, and release a new iPhone, so that no one can complaint.

[gloss]

I concur. Current AT&T Data plan comparison:
iPhone (EDGE) = $20/month unlimited data
BlackJack II (3G) = $30/month unlimited data

If you look at their other data plans, they do not differentiate between 3G data and EDGE data. It's simply Data. You can't use the fact that the iPhone has a separately priced data plan as proof because as far as we know it's priced that way because it's the iPhone, not because it's EDGE.

[Cepe Indicum]

Well you can only have gotten sick of it if you over indulged on it, no?
Simple solution would be to not come to this website, or the least the iphone section. Nobody forces you to click your mouse on this thread.

Oh, and......3D??? You can't have been reading that much on it aye.

Why do you feel the need to make personal criticisms?
Everyone has their own opinions on things, some opinions (such as yours) are best left in your head.

Maybe you should take note of your own advice :rolleyes:

[Stately]

i most certainly do.

Haha I second that. :cool:

[EagleME]

Do you think it will be possible to buy an iPhone 3G at an Apple Store (after the launch) and activate it later on (or unlocking it!), just like before? If so, I guess it will still be a good deal for non-american travellers visiting the states to pick up an iPhone or two. I guess the price here in Sweden for an iPhone 3G will be quite high, at least initially.

[Zeegler]

Do you think it will be possible to buy an iPhone 3G at an Apple Store (after the launch) and activate it later on (or unlocking it!), just like before? If so, I guess it will still be a good deal for non-american travellers visiting the states to pick up an iPhone or two. I guess the price here in Sweden for an iPhone 3G will be quite high, at least initially.

I can say with 100% certainty, that no one can answer your question until the product is released.

[lazyrighteye]

Yeah, I'm really confused by the "zero sales" thing for almost an entire month. I was really expecting an announcement last or this week - I'm shocked they misjudged their stock this badly.

The didn't misjudge their stock.
100% intentional on a least two fronts.
1) avoid the backlash of people that might have purchased an iPhone days before the 3G launch and
2) look at the hype this is building. People, even current iPhone users, are nearly as excited as the first iPhone launch. This break in iPhone sales will be more than made up with massive, global sales. Just watch.

[Philsy]

Im in the UK, i've got till October to the end of my 18 month contract with my NON iphone phone. Waiting till october will pretty much kill me (i finally buckled and now i want/need an iphone!) so how can i get hold of one? Will the v2.0 be hackable, will i have to resort to getting one from the states or another european country, or even Australia (if they do have unblocked iphones come june/july)? Or do i have to become O2 bitch and somehow blag one and sign up for another 18 month contract (:eek:)

Questions, Questions......

I'm in the same boat - contract runs out in October. I got another phone because I was disappointed with the spec of the original iPhone. This is what I've been waiting for.

Look on the bright side, though, October isn't that far away - the time will fly by. Worth waiting! :)

[bilbo--baggins]

Still it`s hard to believe how the hell did Apple screw up this bad. iPhone 3G after June 9th???? That means more than a month of zero iphone sales. They have never done something like this with any of their other products. I still cant digest it....:confused:

Not true. A few years ago Apple went the whole summer without any iMacs available before a new model was launched in September. I think that's when they moved from the anglepoise iMac to the current style iMac.

[KindredMAC]

For one, all Draft N access points are backwards compatible with A, B, and G devices, so you should still be able to connect a 802.11G iPhone to a Draft N access point.

Besides, for a device with this small a processor, the Wi-Fi connection is definitely not the limiting bottleneck. Would you really notice that your phone is getting a 55 Mbit/s connection and not 110 Mbit/s?

I know the APEXT Draft N can be set up to be backwards compatible.

You totally misunderstood what I said..... "an all N network". As in 5GHz.

I never said I wanted my iPhone to connect at N speeds. I know that most "broadband" speeds are even below the old "b" speeds.

You assumed that.

I want an all N network so that my Apple TV can pull from my APEXT LAN'd PowerMac G5 in my home office at N speeds. If someone connects to my backwards compatible network with an older b or g airport card then I lose all benefits of N speeds. Hence my request for the iPhone to have an N card in it so I can connect to my own home network or connect to anyone else's network no matter the letter designation.

[sananda]

Not true. A few years ago Apple went the whole summer without any iMacs available before a new model was launched in September. I think that's when they moved from the anglepoise iMac to the current style iMac.

yes, it has happened before. but it wasn't deliberate last time, was it?

[Shasterball]

Why do you feel the need to make personal criticisms?
Everyone has their own opinions on things, some opinions (such as yours) are best left in your head.

Maybe it's because he is ugly outside? :)

[sassenach74]

Maybe you should take note of your own advice :rolleyes:

That's a terrible retort.....

[MagicWok]

Hope this is true, then I'll have a decent time plan to sell my iPod Touch and Nokia N95 8GB and hopefully get an iPhone, 32 GB, 5mp camera and 3G and everything will be finally on one device :)

Would be even better if the iPhone had a Xenon flash too, and the camera as good or better quality that the N95.

Getting excited.

[sassenach74]

Maybe it's because he is ugly outside? :)

Thanks for clearing that up........*sigh*

[Zeegler]

64 GB iPhone Black coming on Friday!!!! or not

[sassenach74]

64 GB iPhone Black coming on Friday!!!! or not

Ok?

[sassenach74]

64 GB iPhone Black coming on Friday!!!! or not


You just completely changed your post......what's the deal?

[iphonesarecool]

Hope this is true, then I'll have a decent time plan to sell my iPod Touch and Nokia N95 8GB and hopefully get an iPhone, 32 GB, 5mp camera and 3G and everything will be finally on one device :)

Would be even better if the iPhone had a Xenon flash too, and the camera as good or better quality that the N95.

Getting excited.



I hope that the new iphone has all that stuff too. Especially 3G and 5mp camera.

[PK56]

I am eagerly awaiting this new iPhone. .....

With the GPS your photos will have GPS coordinates imbedded in the metadata of your pictures. As you post them on you website Google will be able to index your photos, and everyone else's, and then pragmatically assemble all of the photos into one large panoramic view that will include the ability to extrapolate the 3D structure of builds, roads and any other landmark. People could then go to Google maps and "fly" through an area. All of this stitched together from everyone posting their pictures anywhere on the web.


My, that's quite an accurate GPS system you envision! In order to "pragmatically assemble" photos into a panoramic view, it'd need to know the precise location, angle of the camera, etc. Keep dreaming big, though!

[Zeegler]

You just completely changed your post......what's the deal?

I don't know what you are talking about :D

[sassenach74]

I don't know what you are talking about :D

I don't suppose you do.....anyway....moving on.....

[L3X]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!
In a sense I agree with you, but this could happen if they do not subsidize the iPhone. Also, it could be a subsidy only through At&t, and those that don't have At&t will not be using the iPhone for the most part.

Still, though, if the iPhone is $400 and $500, then with a $200 discount with a 2 year contract, it's still $200 and $300. That is still more than most people are willing to pay for a cell phone. I know some of my colleagues just got Blackberries for $1 or something after a rebate. The iPhone will never be this cheap.

Regardless of who else has one or will have one, I'm getting one.

[omikjam]

I really hope the new iPhone supports HSDPA and not just WCDMA. It will probably be the latter though, seeing as they released a 2.5G phone when their competitors had been manufacturing 3G-phones for years. :(

[gcortega]

Obviously!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr Maui]

Wait, a 3G iPhone is coming out June 9th?!? Why hasn't MacRumors covered this a little bit more?

Its just a joke. Helps break stuff up a lil'. :cool:

I recognize the comment was a joke ... but ... seriously ... how many of these posts do we need to have placed into each thread?

[cervaro]

I'd be much more likely to get a 3G iPhone if it's subsidised, as with the vast majority of phones in the UK mobile market. That's how it's always worked over here and in Europe from my recollection. Heck, I'd even be willing to pay £30 a month for a contract again if the price was around the £100 mark! (I can but hope :))

[ilflyya]

Hmm, lessons learned from previous releases...I think I'll be waiting until my Verizon contract is over before buying an 3G iPhone. I think by December, all the bugs will be worked out, and who knows, by then there may be an even bigger capacity iPhone! There's no prize for adopting early! I make fun of everyone that waited in line for the 4 gig iPhone, as well as those who can't do simple product research to know when the next model is coming out!

I'm not really mean, I just don't tolerate stupidity! :-)

[Santa Rosa]

In that link TonyHoyle posted, there was a section called:

Pay Monthly tariff terms and conditions for iPhone

I guess that applies to us all too? Right?

Point 2 under the first section states:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you may be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term. This will not apply if your purchase a new iPhone from us, in which case you agree that a new 18 month minimum term will apply.

Then the link you posted appear to be the revised terms from Feb 08 which just state:

If you end your contract during the 18 month minimum term, you will be required to pay the applicable monthly charge for your tariff until the end of the minimum term.

So I guess it depends when you signed up. The Feb terms seem to leave things more open. Until the 3G iPhone appears, I guess we won't know how they intend to play it.

I signed up before February, but the change in terms and conditions applied to me as they can do that. With my change in tariff which gave we more minutes and text, they also changed my terms and conditions. Was emailed about it etc etc.

My straight argument about the whole thing is that the iPhone is mine, money pending the 3G iPhone is going to be mine. I have a contract from O2 that gives me 600 minutes, 500 messages and unlimited internet. No free phone, not another thing. All they ask me to do is use my contract with an iPhone. There is no specifics to which iPhone, just an iPhone.

If O2 had given me the iPhone at a subsidized amount as I was taking out a contract with them, then that would be understandable that I would be contracted to that particular iPhone. As this is not the case any attempts by them to try and pull a fast one on me are not going to be taken to kindly.

I would highly doubt that Apple and O2 have not had talks over this particular issue. I could only see Apple saying to them, look let them buy the new iPhone 3G, no hassles. As soon as O2 start hassling loyal customers its instantly going to look bad on Apple, especially the way they are dealing with the iPhone. Its not just like some random new Nokia that gets pooped out every five minutes.

At the end of my contract, and I know O2 do this, are they seriously going to phone me up and say, well thats your iPhone contract up, we will give you some other random shafty phone if you stay with us on a new random contract. Thats not going to rub off well at all. Another chance for them to get a telling from me. Hence also from that logic I think they will continue with selling the iPhone as a device you buy, like an iPod, and they will keep their contractual phone service separate. It makes sense, keeps it simple and stops O2 from having any problems. Second iPhone, new contract = fair. Different iPhone, new additional contract = undeniably unfair.

Its not well explained my thinking but I guess you can get my drift.

Hopefully Steve will address this issue at the keynote. He will know fine well that a lot of the people with the Gen 1 iPhone, who will be there, are still going to be on their 2 year, 18 month contract, and will want the new iPhone 3G. Its physically impossible for anyone to have finished their iPhone contract yet lol, so I reckon he might have a few seconds set aside to address that particular issue.

We will have to wait and see what happens anyway!!!

[Pwned]

I recognize the comment was a joke ... but ... seriously ... how many of these posts do we need to have placed into each thread?

Amen!

[bzudo]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

This is ridiculous. You're not special. There's going to be a discount. Your ivory tower is crumbling.

It's fine to be an individual, but owning an iphone does not an individual make. I feel bad for you. I feel bad that this makes you feel good.

It's this kind of attitude that contributes to making the world a crappy place. All due to the fact that you don't want someone to have the same phone as you.

I suspected this is why some people were complaining on here about the subsidy or at least viciously explaining why it would not happen.

[Raidersmojo]

That's more fiction than fact....but if you have made a decision already based on rumors, then more the fool you.


more the fool on me? I already own the original iphone so I'm looking at "what does this new phone offer me that this one doesn't" and the answer is "not much" so the "3G and GPS" iPhone coming out really doesn't matter to me and thats what I based my decision off of.

I don't know why people insist on assuming things that have never been confirmed are true, and then basing a purchasing decision off of those "facts." No one has ever confirmed ANY of the physical dimensions of the 3G iPhone, or any of the features. Also, how do you know the third revision will be the best of all of them? Isn't that what you could say about every revision? They SHOULD be better than the previous model, otherwise there isn't really any point to the new model existing. If someone is happy with the current one, that's fine and all, I just wouldn't be so set on something that you, nor anyone outside of Apple has any idea about.


yeah no one has confirmed anything yet but as of right now based on the rumors (since we are on a rumor site you know) I wouldn't be interested in the 3G iphone, 3G coverage is spotty in my area anyway,it would be a waste for me. if the phone came out and it was bigger badder and better than this one in every way possible, I probably would buy it, but based on the rumors so far. its not something I'd be interested in, I don't see whats so hard to grasp with this.

[yvonnejim]

Not sure if this was addressed specifically, but if I got an AT&T contract for 2 years back when the first iPhone came out, can I buy the new iPhone for the assumed discounted price and extend my contract for an additional 2 years? Seems this would be possible.

[sassenach74]

more the fool on me? I already own the original iphone so I'm looking at "what does this new phone offer me that this one doesn't" and the answer is "not much" so the "3G and GPS" iPhone coming out really doesn't matter to me and thats what I based my decision off of.

And so my reply to you still stands, you're basing your purchase on rumors, so more the fool you....and this, if you need reminding is the post you made, you never commented on just 3G and GPS, you're twisting the story to suit your needs:

with this phone only having 3G (Big whoop) possibly GPS, and just bigger harddrive size and it being thicker I'm going to have to pass on this installment , especially if the screen is 2.8 instead of 3.5 like rumored. I don't want a smaller screen

But I see you have already re-worded your concerns, if you had typed it this way in the first place I wouldn't have commented.

[cschulz]

All I can say is ATT better be subsidizing the cost of the phone if they plan on charging us $30 to $35 a month for an unlimited data plan like they do with their other 3G devices. Who wants to pay like $95 a month for their iPhone bill? I have unlimited txting, 450 minutes, and unlimited EDGE data at a comfy $55 a month. And the next iPhone will potentially be plastic and ugly. I think I'll end up sticking with my current phone and wait another year for the next (better) model.

[lakebum]

OK People, its not that hard to figure out why they have stopped selling the iphones 4 so long. My guess is that they do not want everyone trading in there current iphones for the new 3G one. So, they are going to stop selling them and wait till everyones warranty is up. Then they wont have to refund so many iphones unless they bought an extended warranty. So, its a win/win situation for them.

[sassenach74]

And the next iPhone will potentially be plastic and ugly. I think I'll end up sticking with my current phone and wait another year for the next (better) model.

Good gods, someone else who knows already what the new iPhone will be.

[sassenach74]

OK People, its not that hard to figure out why they have stopped selling the iphones 4 so long. My guess is that they do not want everyone trading in there current iphones for the new 3G one. So, they are going to stop selling them and wait till everyones warranty is up. Then they wont have to refund so many iphones unless they bought an extended warranty. So, its a win/win situation for them.

Yeah, probably that is the reason, or so the 30 odd people before you seem to think.

[Ryan Trevisol]

I really hope the new iPhone supports HSDPA and not just WCDMA. It will probably be the latter though, seeing as they released a 2.5G phone when their competitors had been manufacturing 3G-phones for years. :(

Actually, the Infineon SGOLD3 chip that they should be using is HSDPA 7.5 capable. :) Faster than my DSL.

[Zeegler]

OK People, its not that hard to figure out why they have stopped selling the iphones 4 so long. My guess is that they do not want everyone trading in there current iphones for the new 3G one. So, they are going to stop selling them and wait till everyones warranty is up. Then they wont have to refund so many iphones unless they bought an extended warranty. So, its a win/win situation for them.

Warranty?! What does warranty have to do with people exchanging iPhones for 3G iPhones or getting refunds? If a new iPod comes out and my old iPod is still under warranty, I cannot just walk into the store and demand a replacement nor a refund unless I bought it within the last 14 days.

14 days would be the maximum to keep shelves empty because that is the length of Apple's return policy (and same goes for AT&T w/ Apple products). Note, however, that Apple has not used this strategy when it released newer versions of other products (laptops, computers, iPods) and just accepted returns from the prior two weeks.

I think 14 days may have turned into a month due to Apple underestimating demand for the iPhone in the beginning of May. If they abide by the 14-day policy, we could see the new 3G iPhone as early as May 23 (they were "unavailable" as of May 9).

[JRBTempe]

While I'm hoping the release is sooner rather than later (being one of those whackos who stood in line outside my local AT&T store last June 29)... I'm skeptical about it being announced and available at WWDC. Can you imagine all those developers leaving the show to raid the local AT&T and Apple stores? I kinda doubt it, unless Apple plans to have them available for sale at the conference (or maybe developers get one free? LOL).

My money is still on something closer to last year's launch, like the last Friday of June again... unfortunately. :(

[sassenach74]

Warranty?! What does warranty have to do with people exchanging iPhones for 3G iPhones or getting refunds?

14 days would be the maximum to keep shelves empty because that is the length of Apple's return policy

I think that is what he meant, just used the wrong word.

[Zeegler]

I think that is what he meant, just used the wrong word.

even if he means return policy, it doesn't really warrant Apple not selling the iPhone for a whole month....14 days max. MAYBE we'll get lucky and see phones on May 23, JIT for Memorial Day Weekend.

[nomad01]

My straight argument about the whole thing is that the iPhone is mine, money pending the 3G iPhone is going to be mine. I have a contract from O2 that gives me 600 minutes, 500 messages and unlimited internet. No free phone, not another thing. All they ask me to do is use my contract with an iPhone. There is no specifics to which iPhone, just an iPhone.


I think my problem is that yes, the iPhone is mine. But in that case, why do I even have to stick with O2? It's my phone. I own it. Why can't I use it with any network? If that much can be stipulated then I won't be happy until I've purchased the new iPhone and I've not had to alter my contract.

It's completely obvious that O2 at one time were insisting on a new contract term if you bought a new iPhone. Hopefully that is no longer a stipulation but I'm not counting my chickens.

[Santa Rosa]

Actually, the Infineon SGOLD3 chip that they should be using is HSDPA 7.5 capable. :) Faster than my DSL.

It actually a maximum downlink of 7.2 not 7.5 as you have stated.

[/dev/toaster]

I really want a 3G iPhone ... price is going to be the major determining factor in it. Chances are, I will need to drop down another very heafty deposit. (Had to give them $750 last time)

My goal is to upgrade my phone to the 3G version and give my girlfriend the EDGE version. (and moving her off T-Mobile) I have a funny feeling AT&T are going to be bastards about it.

I tried calling them today to find out if this was possiable, each person I spoke with had no idea how adding a line works with iPhones. I gave up after being transfered 5 times.

[RebelScum]

Ugh at the thought of Apple or AT&T offering discounts on THE coolest phone on the planet. I realize this is simply a moneys game and Apple wants to sell as many phones as possible, but...I CHERISH MY EXCLUSIVITY! This reeks of what happened with the RAZR! Remember when you were the ONLY person who had one then suddenly EVERYBODY (literally) got one?! Remember how it sucked to then have the same phone as every other lowlife on the planet? This is exactly what's gonna happen if they discount the iPhone so deeply that everybody can afford one! I currently get a cheap thrill outta knowing that at any given time in any given place I'm one of if not the only dude with an iphone! Oh well. Say goodbye to that if they cheapen it. Mass consumerism sucks!

While I agree with you on a very thin and narcissistic level, I have an iPod, so I'm obviously not THAT interested in exclusivity. A good product is a good product, and as such should be available to the masses, no matter what ivory-tower egomaniacs such as yourself might feel. I imagine you use the phrase "Everyone is entitled to the best level of care they can afford."

[havenhamilton]

Not really a surprise, but I hope AT&T gives a subsidy on it. I'm not dishing out another $600 less than a year later. 3G isn't that great.

i expect the subsidy would only be for new members of att.

[RebelScum]

He should really get himself the GoldVish 'Le million' Piece Unique
(holds Guinness World record for most expensive phone guaranteed to emit maximum smugness)

Heh, I was actually trying to think of the PRADA Chocolate, but yours is better :)

BTW, ur sig r0x0rz :)

[Zeegler]

Heh, I was actually trying to think of the PRADA Chocolate, but yours is better :)

BTW, ur sig r0x0rz :)

Thank you. I think I may upgrade my iPhone Black to the 128 GB model soon though :D

[rockosmodurnlif]

Yay subsidies!

Hopefully offset the contract cancellation charge I'll be facing from my current provider.

[Xjett]

i expect the subsidy would only be for new members of att.

Most likely, though I am sure if you call them up nicely and reason with them a bit they will help you out. I always remind them of how much I pay a month (we have 6 lines currently in my home) and how loyal I am and they always go out of their way to help me out.

Worse comes to worse I hope they stick with the current iPhone's price structure.

[AlphaAnt]

I know the APEXT Draft N can be set up to be backwards compatible.

You totally misunderstood what I said..... "an all N network". As in 5GHz.

I never said I wanted my iPhone to connect at N speeds. I know that most "broadband" speeds are even below the old "b" speeds.

You assumed that.

I want an all N network so that my Apple TV can pull from my APEXT LAN'd PowerMac G5 in my home office at N speeds. If someone connects to my backwards compatible network with an older b or g airport card then I lose all benefits of N speeds. Hence my request for the iPhone to have an N card in it so I can connect to my own home network or connect to anyone else's network no matter the letter designation.

That's all understood, but it's definitely looking at things from a network optimization standpoint, whereas from a device optimization standpoint it doesn't make sense to even bother with the more expensive chip (thus my second comment). Putting in an 802.11n NIC does absolutely nothing for the device except make it more expensive, possibly larger, and more likely to burn through batteries quicker. The processor probably isn't powerful enough to handle the increased throughput. Those of us who don't care about the performance on our Draft-N network are saying "Please don't" in regards to Draft-N vs B/G.

[thaitillidie]

While I agree with you on a very thin and narcissistic level, I have an iPod, so I'm obviously not THAT interested in exclusivity. A good product is a good product, and as such should be available to the masses, no matter what ivory-tower egomaniacs such as yourself might feel. I imagine you use the phrase "Everyone is entitled to the best level of care they can afford."

Hmm...so now I'm a "thin, narcissistic, ivory tower-dwelling egomaniac," huh? Ok, I can live with that. IMHO, no top-of-the-line Apple product (key phrase: top-of-the-line) has EVER made it into the hands of the masses. And the iphone can definitely be considered a top-of-the-line product...for the most obvious of reasons. Besides, the demographics of a typical Apple product user tend to be among the, ahem, higher echelon of individuals in our society (ie., income level, education level, etc etc etc). Surely you can't dispute that. Discount this kind of high-end technology so steeply such that it gets into the hands of every Tom, Dick and Harry in the universe then suddenly it becomes the target of every shadowy, underground hacker from Tennessee to Timbuktu. Kiss the security of the OS operating system on the phone goodbye!! Just look at the plague known as jailbraking that has occurred so far!! Or am I overreacting? But back to the original point of my original posting: dude, I just wanna be known as THAT cool guy with THAT cool phone and not just ANOTHER cool guy with that cool phone when I enter a room. Is that too much to ask? And stop taking things so freakin' serious?! LOL

[csmitty]

Not sure if this was addressed specifically, but if I got an AT&T contract for 2 years back when the first iPhone came out, can I buy the new iPhone for the assumed discounted price and extend my contract for an additional 2 years? Seems this would be possible.

If they're like any other cell company, which they are probably worse, then yes, thats more than likely the case. I highly doubt they're nice enough to let you by a new phone for the discounted price and let you not extend the contract. If you paid full price, the no contract. You usually can't have both, unless you want to complain to CS for a week.

[Zeegler]

Hmm...so now I'm a "thin, narcissistic, ivory tower-dwelling egomaniac," huh? Ok, I can live with that. IMHO, no top-of-the-line Apple product (key phrase: top-of-the-line) has EVER made it into the hands of the masses. And the iphone can definitely be considered a top-of-the-line product...for the most obvious of reasons. Besides, the demographics of a typical Apple product user tend to be among the, ahem, higher echelon of individuals in our society (ie., income level, education level, etc etc etc). Surely you can't dispute that. Discount this kind of high-end technology so steeply such that it gets into the hands of every Tom, Dick and Harry in the universe then suddenly it becomes the target of every shadowy, underground hacker from Tennessee to Timbuktu. Kiss the security of the OS operating system on the phone goodbye!! Just look at the plague known as jailbraking that has occurred so far!! Or am I overreacting? But back to the original point of my original posting: dude, I just wanna be known as THAT cool guy with THAT cool phone and not just ANOTHER cool guy with that cool phone when I enter a room. Is that too much to ask? And stop taking things so freakin' serious?! LOL

Digging yourself deeper, huh? go get yourself a GoldVish and then you can be THAT cool guy (aka THAT a$$hole). So sorry that you're in the lower echelon of society that can't afford a GoldVish.

Like it or not, Apple's plan is to put an iPhone in the hand of every person who has a cellphone. They don't make it to only sell to a handful of individuals (but GoldVish does!), but rather want to make as much $$ as possible from it. Furthermore, ALL new phones go through the same process. Look at the RAZR and Blackberry. Alpha consumers and business users picked them up first, not caring about the high price (I had a day 1 RAZR and paid $600 for it); at this point, supplies are still low because of high manufacturing costs. Once the phone becomes popular, the company ramps up production, manufacturing costs go down, so they lower the price. Everyone wants it and everyone buys it. Meanwhile Mr. Alpha consumer buys a newer phone (I had a day 1 iPhone and paid $600 for it) and the circle of life continues.

A word of advice: Don't be so smug, arrogant, and self-absorbed...it will only hurt you in the future, whatever path of life, and GUARANTEES flaming on these forums.

PS: as far as jailbreaking is concerned...Apple was founded by 2 guys whose first business venture was phone hackery products...Apple encourages this kind of behavior (note Apple's response to jailbreaking was releasing an SDK).

[thaitillidie]

This is ridiculous. You're not special. There's going to be a discount. Your ivory tower is crumbling.

It's fine to be an individual, but owning an iphone does not an individual make. I feel bad for you. I feel bad that this makes you feel good.

It's this kind of attitude that contributes to making the world a crappy place. All due to the fact that you don't want someone to have the same phone as you.

I suspected this is why some people were complaining on here about the subsidy or at least viciously explaining why it would not happen.

Awww poor baby. Here. Here's a slice of deliciously moist chocolate cake. Take it. Go ahead. It'll make you feel better. Dude. Really! C'mon now. It was a fun, light-hearted commentary. Lighten up.

[Xjett]

If they're like any other cell company, which they are probably worse, then yes, thats more than likely the case. I highly doubt they're nice enough to let you by a new phone for the discounted price and let you not extend the contract. If you paid full price, the no contract. You usually can't have both, unless you want to complain to CS for a week.

Yeah they will let you have the phone most likely, either way they are making money and would rather give you more incentive of buying it. However, I don't think it's legal for a cell company to tack you for anything more than two years. So in any case they would only be renewing your contract for time you have been in it. I.E. if you have served 8 months of your two year contract, then they would essentially restart your 2 year contract. At least thats how it works with AT&T here in the state of Florida, I am not sure about other states.

[baslotto]

Fake!

[thaitillidie]

All I can say is ATT better be subsidizing the cost of the phone if they plan on charging us $30 to $35 a month for an unlimited data plan like they do with their other 3G devices. Who wants to pay like $95 a month for their iPhone bill? I have unlimited txting, 450 minutes, and unlimited EDGE data at a comfy $55 a month. And the next iPhone will potentially be plastic and ugly. I think I'll end up sticking with my current phone and wait another year for the next (better) model.

Dude, I dare Apple to make ANYTHING plastic-ky on this new phone. I dare 'em! No, I double dare 'em!! If the back of it is indeed black as some vicious rumor has suggested, it'd damn well better be black CHROME!! Can you imagine them taking a perfectly fine recipe of aluminum from the first phone and cheapening it by making it plastic? Hell, even the plastic that they have to use out of necessity on certain parts of the phone better be of a high-grade!!! I seriously will consider not buying one if they place a plastic, cheap-lookin' glossy back on it! Eww ewww ewwww!!!

[Zeegler]

Dude, I dare Apple to make ANYTHING plastic-ky on this new phone. I dare 'em! No, I double dare 'em!! If the back of it is indeed black as some vicious rumor has suggested, it'd damn well better be black CHROME!! Can you imagine them taking a perfectly fine recipe of aluminum from the first phone and cheapening it by making it plastic? Hell, even the plastic that they have to use out of necessity on certain parts of the phone better be of a high-grade!!! I seriously will consider not buying one if they place a plastic, cheap-lookin' glossy back on it! Eww ewww ewwww!!!

do you double-dog dare them?

did you say "eww"?

[xhambonex]

so if they are black plastic, i don't think they will use anything cheap. I don't know about you, but what has Apple designed that you hated so much you wouldn't buy, appearance wise. People hated and still hate the new nano, they still sell a ton...

[csmitty]

Yeah they will let you have the phone most likely, either way they are making money and would rather give you more incentive of buying it. However, I don't think it's legal for a cell company to tack you for anything more than two years. So in any case they would only be renewing your contract for time you have been in it. I.E. if you have served 8 months of your two year contract, then they would essentially restart your 2 year contract. At least thats how it works with AT&T here in the state of Florida, I am not sure about other states.

Exactly. Thats how sprint/nextel works. I was maybe a year in, got a new phone for the discounted rate, got 2 more years for it. Even though I thought my buddy who worked for nextel said he could do it without the contract. oh well. Lookin forward to a new iphone.

[thaitillidie]

I am eagerly awaiting this new iPhone. I didn't buy the first one for three reasons:


No SDK (This inhibits innovation)
No GPS
Slow EDGE (Need I say more?)


I'm still disappointed that apps will still be loaded solely through Apple who will enforce restrictions on what apps can do. I'm hoping this will eventually change due to user demands.

Now for the fun and exciting aspects of the new iPhone!

With 3G and GPS it is just a matter of time before I will be able to sell my TomTom GPS and use an iPhone for directions while driving (one less device to worry about). I also look forward to the inevitable innovations that will come as a result of the SDK. I think one of the next "Kill Apps" will be one that associates your GPS location with what stores and products and events are nearby. Walking near a StarBucks? Buy and pay for your coffee on your iPhone and have your coffee ready for you when you walk in. Walking down Main St and want to know what's being sold in a nearby store... take look on the iPhone. You could even have the option of turning on little popup ads that will associate your past behaviors with products and services that are nearby (this could be used to subsidize your phone service)

Utility crews could use the iPhone as a "see through x-ray visor". Using a combination of the GPS, Video Camera, Motion Sensor and the high-speed 3G connection a utility crew could point the camera at the ground and see an overlay image of all of the pipes, tunnels and cables that are underground. As the crew member moves the iPhone around the images will auto-slide and will act like an "window" to see everything that is buried in the ground.

With the GPS your photos will have GPS coordinates imbedded in the metadata of your pictures. As you post them on you website Google will be able to index your photos, and everyone else's, and then pragmatically assemble all of the photos into one large panoramic view that will include the ability to extrapolate the 3D structure of builds, roads and any other landmark. People could then go to Google maps and "fly" through an area. All of this stitched together from everyone posting their pictures anywhere on the web.

There is SO much more the new iPhone will be able to do with GPS and 3G. I can't wait to see what all people come up with using the SDK!!!



Umm...yeah...all's I gotta say is satellite-based GPS had betta be included on this new iphone. Google Maps is cool (the actual interface is AWESOME!), but I, ahem, "deliver" for a living and Google Maps is seriously lacking in its database reach (unlocatable addresses, jacked-up turn-by-turn directions in some instances, etc etc etc).

[The Toon Master]

They also suggest that the next iPhone will be offered with more traditional discounts and incentives rather then the fixed price point Apple had been offering with the original iPhone. No specific details have been leaked, though there have been rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/04/29/atandt-to-provide-200-subsidy-on-3g-iphone/) that even AT&T might offer a subsidy on the upcoming 3G iPhone.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/20/confirmation-of-june-9th-3g-iphone-launch/)

Sweet, then amybe i'll actually be able to afford one with the obscene plan!

[thaitillidie]

ha...try walking around Manhattan for a day. you'll see more iphones here than all other phones combined.



Well I live in a sleepy little ol' town called Atlanta (perhaps you've heard of it?) and from what I've seen they haven't exactly saturated the market here lol! But we southerners are always a bit slow to catch on t'things I guess.

[woodekm]

I just hope I dont loose my Co. discount this time, like I did when I bought the first iPhone.

Took me 6 month to eventually get that back.

[jtt]

I really want a 3G iPhone ... price is going to be the major determining factor in it. Chances are, I will need to drop down another very heafty deposit. (Had to give them $750 last time)

My goal is to upgrade my phone to the 3G version and give my girlfriend the EDGE version. (and moving her off T-Mobile) I have a funny feeling AT&T are going to be bastards about it.

I tried calling them today to find out if this was possiable, each person I spoke with had no idea how adding a line works with iPhones. I gave up after being transfered 5 times.

$750?!

[Raidersmojo]

And so my reply to you still stands, you're basing your purchase on rumors, so more the fool you....and this, if you need reminding is the post you made, you never commented on just 3G and GPS, you're twisting the story to suit your needs:

with this phone only having 3G (Big whoop) possibly GPS, and just bigger harddrive size and it being thicker I'm going to have to pass on this installment , especially if the screen is 2.8 instead of 3.5 like rumored. I don't want a smaller screen

But I see you have already re-worded your concerns, if you had typed it this way in the first place I wouldn't have commented.

right, next time I'll make sure to lay out my post the way you would see fit. that way you don't have to worry about sending a comment back. did something I say like that really make you get that up in arms? get a life

if something is started on a "rumor site" especially one like macrumors. I'm going to respond to it and say "well based on this I wouldn't want this phone because this is what is rumored" no one knows whats going to happen thats why its a "rumor" site and according to these "rumors" I don't want iphone 2.0 because of what was out.

if you hate people basing things on "rumors" maybe you shouldn't post here?

:rolleyes: